Re: Overview, roadmap, priorities

2000-07-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Ben Armstrong wrote: 1. dict Well, but why didn't she tried wordnet (the tcl/tk browser wnb should be much more attractive than dict - in my opinion of course). The orphaned wordnet three years ago was the fact that I became a Debian developer! There are special video

Re: Overview, roadmap, priorities

2000-07-19 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Ben Armstrong wrote: Well, she likes logging into the console on the 486s. I don't think she judges programs based on their attractiveness. That was the revealing thing. It's not that the kids don't have X available to them, or that there's nothing interesting

Re: Debian Jr. and Debian Jr. Lite

2000-12-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Ben Armstrong wrote: Well, I know Andreas Tille has mentioned his son uses mc, but as I recall, he is older. I'm not sure about children in the 5 to 8 range. I never Yes, my son is 10 years old. I prefer mc because he sometimes plays DOS games and I teached him how

Re: Debian for education

2000-12-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I'm a new member of this list because Iwe - OFSET - are interested in Free software and education and because Debian also represent the most free distribution out there. I know that the Debian-JR project is not specificaly dedicated to education

Re: Debian for education

2001-01-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: Today I've met Jean-Claude Fernandez who is the boss of the CRI. This orginism has realized Pingoo. About the non-free software, I don't really know, I think the only piece of software depending on non free software is the admistration tool

Re: Debian for education

2001-01-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: If I *remember well*, one of the things they need with the package is to be installed automaticly so very few human-computer interaction is needed during the install, this is also the reason they need to repackage all the original package. May be

Re: Status report

2001-05-02 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Ben Armstrong wrote: - Made edits to junior-doc so it is now ready for upload publishing on our web site. Last time I was not so active so I might have missed something. Is there a CVS for junior-doc? I'm asking because I'm willing to translate it into German. Moreover

Re: Status report

2001-05-03 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Ben Armstrong wrote: I have joined the debian-doc mailing list and will be asking there shortly about putting the junior-doc package into the DDP's CVS instead of having to make something specific to Debian Jr. Good idea. Thanks for your offer. Hopefully I will have

Re: Squeak (Was: Ardour, Sound Agnula/DeMuDi)

2002-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Ben Armstrong wrote: It does look good. However, the inclusion of Apple fonts in Squeak (which are not DFSG-free) has long been a sore spot so far as including Squeak in Debian is concerned. It puts squeak squarely in non-free. As such, it cannot be included in Debian

Racing games

2002-10-25 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, Christmas is coming nearer and so I'm wondering whether I could find a new game for my son. When searching the Web I found at http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue4/m4racer1.html a test of those Games available for Linux. Unfortunately most of the promissing projects are dead

Re: Racing Games

2002-11-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On 4 Nov 2002, Dennis Wecker wrote: i have found another cool racing game: http://www.racer.nl Did you checked the license? I think we can't even distribute it under non-free - but I would like it if you would find the time to discuss it on debian-legal. It's a really nice game. Kind regards

Re: Replacement for Abiword: LyX? Openoffice?

2003-10-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Ben Armstrong wrote: I'm hoping it will be acted on by the maintainer. The bug was only filed a few days ago. However, I need to be prepared for the worst, hence my line of questioning. I'm optimistic that the bug is fixed before all the dependencies go in. To be

3D car racing

2004-02-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, once I filed an RFP bug (#167748) for Torcs http://torcs.sourceforge.net/ which might be a great target for Debian-Jr. They have released a new version now and perhaps somebody wants to step in here. Kind regards Andreas.

Re: torcs - 3D car engine

2004-03-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Rudy Godoy wrote: Now, I've been testing for a while and it seems good but I'd like to improve my freeglut library package, I have some issues dealing with replace glut3 and soname that I need to solve. When everything looks ok for me I'll put them on mentors.d.net to

[German] Call for Papers zum zweiten Fachkongress Linux in der Jugendarbeit (fwd)

2004-04-16 Thread Andreas Tille
FYI Andreas. -- Forwarded message -- http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2004/6705.html Call for Papers zum zweiten Fachkongress »Linux in der Jugendarbeit« Gesendet von demon am Fr, 16. Apr 2004 um 13:11 Bis zum 31. Juli besteht die Möglichkeit, Beiträge für Referate und

Bug#270405: ITP: trigger -- rally car racing game (fwd)

2004-09-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, just in case you might not have noticed it ... Kind regards Andreas. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 10:25:21 +0200 From: Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#270405: ITP: trigger --

Re: RFS: python-visual - VPython 3D scientific visualization library

2005-03-31 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: Hopefully I tempted someone to sponsor this package. In how far is this interesting for debian-jr? I guess debian-edu would be more apropriate. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Tracking CDD-specific package requests in the WNPP

2005-04-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Ben Armstrong wrote: A while ago I asked for a feature so that CDD-specific bugs, especially requests for packages in the WNPP, could be tracked in the BTS via a unique tag for debian-jr. Well, it seems that this feature is already present. See: http://bugs.debian.org/79120

[Help] Re: Bug#310817: tipptrainer: Tipptrainer crashes when selecting a 2nd lesson after finishing the first.

2005-05-30 Thread Andreas Tille
for the moment until a new team might have formed? 3. Are there alternatives for this program which are actively maintained? I would love to see tipptrainer revitalized. Kind regards Andreas. On Sun, 29 May 2005, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2005 19:05 schrieb Andreas

Re: [Help] Re: Bug#310817: tipptrainer: Tipptrainer crashes when selecting a 2nd lesson after finishing the first.

2005-05-30 Thread Andreas Tille
: Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Andreas Tille] 3. Are there alternatives for this program which are actively maintained? I'm aware of ktouch for practicing touch typing, but have never tried tipptrainer so I do not know if it is an alternative or not. There is also tuxtype, which

Re: Candidates for removal

2005-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Nathanael Nerode wrote: These packages are candidates for removal by virtue of having been sitting in unstable without being in 'testing' for very long periods. It has a few false positives for packages which were kicked out of testing recently, but they are pretty good

Re: Live CD as a focal point for reviving Jr development

2005-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Ben Armstrong wrote: Naturally, a live CD produced from native Debian would be good to do in parallel with this effort. I'm just faced with so many different alternatives that I'm not sure which to go with. Comments? The mailing list archive of debian-custom contains

Re: Live CD as a focal point for reviving Jr development

2005-10-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Sam Hart wrote: As soon as my server comes back from the dead (bad RAM found yesterday) I can set up a new mailing list. Just let me know who to add and I can do so. Do we really need just another mailinglist. This list here seemed to be nearly dead. So why not

Re: Live CD as a focal point for reviving Jr development

2005-10-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Ben Armstrong wrote: I really have no bias for one particular livecd project over another. What I'm looking for, though, is something that you can build entirely natively on Debian. If morphix-in-debian is an alternative the knoppix-debian folks should be considering, you

Re: Live CD as a focal point for reviving Jr development

2005-10-05 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: This is exactly the way I'm thinking. Unfortunately the common set between Debian developers and live-CD creators is extremely small so this dream of mine did not become reality since more than 3 years.

Re: Our own Alioth project

2005-10-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Ben Armstrong wrote: I discussed this further with Marcela on irc and concluded that it is now time to make this happen. Therefore I have asked her to request the creation of the Debian Jr. project on Alioth. So long as Jr. only consisted of members of the CDD group, it

Re: Our own Alioth project

2005-10-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Ben Armstrong wrote: First, I would transfer this tree to the jr alioth project, then create cdd/projects/junior as an external link to the jr alioth project tree. If this is possible it is fine for me. See Subversion's documentation on externals. (Sorry, no time at the

German: Live CD for children

2005-11-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, the information is unfortunately only in German but the product sounds great: http://www.klixxa.de Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [proposal] Simplified junior tags debtags-based replacement for metapackages

2006-02-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Ben Armstrong wrote: I'm wondering if other CDDs may wish to do something similar. If so, it would be useful to have a cdd:: aspect to differentiate between different groups of packages within the cdd. Thus, dropping 'priority' because I don't think it adds much, we might

Re: [proposal] Simplified junior tags debtags-based replacement for metapackages

2006-02-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Ben Armstrong wrote: cdd::med::something for Debian-Med What kind of something did you have in mind for Debian-Med? For the moment I have the something in mind that fits the metapackages med-something If I would be really sure that this is the best idea I

Re: Job: simplified creation of Debian Jr. accounts

2007-02-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: do you mean you'd rather use some sort of user/group config to handle this? I read the other thread and frankly don't understand it really, but will read more and see if I can tease it out. Cdd-dev currently has an interface to user/groups but

Re: A single attractive, functional, desktop for all ages

2007-03-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: I think our default desktop should be simple, functional for those who are a little older (maybe age 4 or so) but not styled in such a way that older kids can't get at what they want, and not embarrassingly preschool themed. My 16 year old son was

Re: Moed Debian Jr. repository to Alioth

2007-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:34:12 +0200 (CEST) Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are these reasons and how can I help to invalidate them? I'm not sure if you can. Individual metapackages with individual release cycles has always worked well

Re: Choice of toolkits concerning typical vs. Debian Jr. CDD

2007-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
[It was right to move this thread that originally started at http://lists.debian.org/debian-jr/2007/04/msg3.html and concerns the way debian-jr meta packages are builded.] On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: Why? You asked here why I say metapackages work well for me. I don't

JUXlala (German) and building live CDsB

2007-06-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, unfortunately only a German web site. In short: A Knoppix derivative that targets to pre-school children. http://www.jux-net.info/ BTW, for all those who want to build a live CD there is *really* good news from DebConf: apt-get install live-helper You really _want_ to have a

Re: JUXlala (German) and building live CDsB

2007-06-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Ben Armstrong wrote: You really _want_ to have a look into this if you think about building a live CD, believe me, it is great! I've been using it for months ... See the list archives. :) This just shows two things: 1. I'm a sloppy reader of the list. 2. I was

Re: Desktop-profiles and CDD (Was: how create a Debian/junior user session only under Debian/Etch)

2008-05-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 13 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one thing that keeps me from giving it up, other than an emotional attachment to my first Debian subproject, is that I have not seen a clear successor to take over the reins. What the project needs is someone with the skill, both technically

Re: Desktop-profiles and CDD (Was: how create a Debian/junior user session only under Debian/Etch)

2008-06-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Ben Armstrong wrote: Understood. No, for better or worse I am stuck with the job. Thanks, yes I would like your technical help. If you could do the switch to cdd-dev and bring things up to date with the current metapackages (minus the dependencies that have caused the

Tasks-Web pages for Debian Junior (Was: Debian-Junior with cdd-dev)

2008-06-04 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, if you like have a look at http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/junior/tasks/ which was rendered from recently checked in tasks files at svn://svn.debian.org/cdd/projects/junior/trunk/debian-junior/ I'll keep on posting about this topic ... Kind regards Andreas. --

Re: Tasks-Web pages for Debian Junior (Was: Debian-Junior with cdd-dev)

2008-06-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Ben Armstrong wrote: Nice! Except for the incorrect references to debian-science and debian-med, it looks great. :) Well, Debian Science is gone and Debian Med will be vanish soon (I just got this entry of my TODO list added recently and it is not really a big problem -

Re: Tasks-Web pages for Debian Junior (Was: Debian-Junior with cdd-dev)

2008-06-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Ben Armstrong wrote: On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/junior/tasks/ Looking at the descriptions all at once like that is helpful. This is exactly what I learned - it became a useful QA tool

Re: Tasks-Web pages for Debian Junior (Was: Debian-Junior with cdd-dev)

2008-06-16 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Ben Armstrong wrote: Missing or avoided packages: freeciv freecol (v0.7.3-4 available) heroes lavaps lincity-ng (v1.1.2-1 available) lmemory Well, freeciv is a transitional package only. Shouldn't we depend on freecol instead? Instead? No, these are different

[Announce] New tasks web Bpages for all CDDs

2008-07-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'd like to announce the new tasks pages generating system for the CDD tasks pages. I want you to hunt for bugs in these pages for about one week before I replace the old pages by the new ones. My plan is to run a cron job[1] twice a day to regenerate all CDD pages. (The old cron jobs for

Uploadeing debian-junior? (Was: Tasks-Web pages for Debian Junior)

2008-07-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this mail of mine form last month did not gathered any answer. So I'm a little bit unsure what to do. Here some more comments what I did and what I would do if nobody disagrees: On Mon, 16 Jun 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: Missing or avoided packages: freeciv freecol (v0.7.3-4 available

New name: Call for opinions

2008-08-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to hear opinons about the new naming proposal given at http://wiki.debian.org/CDDNamingProposals#head-7bb1ae330046f9d0720b77e76d6ee7aa992b754f So I think we should go on renaming waht formerly used to be Custom Debian Distributions to Debian Integrated Solutions

Re: RFA: The Debian Jr. project

2008-08-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Miriam Ruiz wrote: I have different plans for Debian Jr than those in from Debian-Edu if I was to adopt that project. It would be nice to talk about it. I'll try to find time to write a text on my view about the future of the Debian Jr Project as soon as I can. From my

Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi once more to all related lists, my suggestion for a new name received a lot of comments and it turned out that I got not so much positive reactions on the mailing list than when discussing it with people at DebConf. The consequence of the discussion of the debian-custom mailing list was that

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: So we decided to remove all votes from the current ballot next Monday morning This happened now because nobody showe up who found a way to change a vote on doodle. and start voting again about the suggestions which are known at this point in time

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008, David Paleino wrote: where Change vote is a link pointing to http://doodle.ch/edition.html?pollId=ggey86bvqnmcnuybparticipantName=David+PaleinoparticipantId=$idcredential=$credential (obviously, $id and $credential have been stripped off :) ) I believe that just saving

Re: RFA: The Debian Jr. project

2008-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, Ben Armstrong wrote: Probably. But it doesn't stop me from wishing this were not so. I didn't want Debian Jr. to be *only* a packaging effort. I wanted a living, breathing relationship between children, their caretakers and developers. We've fallen far short of this

Re: Name poll (Was: New name: Call for opinions)

2008-10-06 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Andreas Tille wrote: Once the poll is restarted from scratch no additional name suggestions will be accepted. The new name will be in the set specified inside the poll. People several times criticised that this type of poll is inferior to a condorset voting method

Announcement: New bugs pages, status of renaming

2008-11-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'm proud to announce a new QA tool for all CDD^W Blends: Overview about all bugs about Dependencies of our metapackages. For the impatient here is a list of these pages: Edu: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/edu/bugs GIS: http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/gis/bugs Jr:

Yet another list statistics for debian-jr

2009-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/ I did some investigation on who is frequently posting on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until end of last year and write a short summary for those lists I regard worth a

Re: Involve kids in free software development through play

2009-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Ben Armstrong wrote: [2]Platinum Arts Sandbox puts into children's hands the ability to role Added to task games-gl. Is this correct I happen to know that [4]Hex-a-hop is one of Miriam's personal Added to task puzzle. During this play session, which also

Re: Debtags and Blends tasks pages

2009-01-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Ben Armstrong wrote: - To componentize Debian Jr. so that people can pick and choose only those parts of it that are relevant to them. It would augment our more rigid, coarser categorization in our metapackages and may even be good enough to either simplify it (reducing it

Re: Bug#513535: ITP: peg-e -- peg elimination solitaire game

2009-01-31 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Ben Armstrong wrote: It's certainly welcome, and I did have some discussion with Miriam on irc about this briefly, but she's very busy at this time. OK, no problem. Anyway, thanks for making this set of additions. They looked basically OK except since I don't know

For those who care about CDD SVN

2009-01-31 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, this is not yet an official announcement but I would like all those who might try to commit any changes - especially those concerning tasks files for Debian Jr, Debian Science and Debian Med - to the SVN repository that this has been moved now. We are approaching the final phase of the

Re: Bug#525050: junior-gnome: Won't install. Missing ccd.conf

2009-04-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, vittorio wrote: Package: junior-gnome Version: 1.13 ... Custom Debian Distribution configuration file /etc/cdd/cdd.conf is missing. This file is in package junior-config. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid You are trying to install a package version

Re: Bug#525050: junior-gnome: Won't install. Missing ccd.conf

2009-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, vesposit wrote: It is actually installed, see below vitto...@guevara13:~$ dpkg -l junior* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems

Re: Bug#525050: junior-gnome: Won't install. Missing ccd.conf

2009-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, vesposit wrote: Ok, no hurry... I can wait one week for version 1.15. Please report in any case whether you are successful or not what happens. Thanks for your patience Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#525050: junior-gnome: Won't install. Missing ccd.conf

2009-04-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, vesposit wrote: The upgrade to junior-config 1.15 went perfectly smooth. Bug can be closed. Thanks for keeping us informed Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-jr-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Update question...

2009-08-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 02:17:11PM +0200, Dario Minnucci (midget) wrote: how do I modify http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJr webpage? or send a patch? There is a login link on top of the page. If you follow this link you can ask for a Wiki account. Once you have an account on the right there is

Re: Bug#543146: ITP: zaz -- arcade action puzzle game

2009-08-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 08:17:45PM +, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz little_m...@yahoo.es * Package name: zaz Version : 0.2.6 Upstream Author : Remigiusz Dybka remigiusz.dy...@gmail.com * URL :

Re: Fw: Bug#562324: junior-doc: FTBFS: Nonexistent build-dependency: tetex-bin

2009-12-30 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 08:49:36AM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: This package has not been updated in a very long time, is largely inaccurate, and I will be requesting its removal from the archive shortly unless someone here has an interest in taking it over. Here is the work to be done to

Categorising games / keeping zombie status of Debian Jr.

2009-12-31 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, recently I had a talk with some DDs in Nürnberg who are partly involved in Pkg-games and when presenting them the techniques used in Debian Pure Blends we came up with an idea which might be useful for Pkg-games as well as keeping the Debian Jr. project in a state which enables further

Bug#562552: prompting due to modified conffiles which where not modified by the user

2010-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:52:03PM +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: looks like #562552 and #562554 are related was there a change in blends- common which affected both packages or is this just a copypaste error? Yes, they are. The problem is that I was trying to take over any changes from

Re: Fw: junior-doc REMOVED from testing

2010-02-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:46:30AM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: So, as nobody has stepped up to the challenge I issued earlier, the inevitable has happened ... It's a real shame to see this cute project dying. Thanks for all your inspiring work anyway, Ben. Kind regards Andreas. --

Bug#574237: junior-arcade: package purge (after dependencies removal) fails

2010-03-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:27:54AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Package: junior-arcade Version: 1.18 Severity: serious User: debian...@lists.debian.org Usertags: instest-20100316 instest Hi, While testing the installation of all packages in unstable, I ran into the following problem:

Bug#577062: junior-toys: missing /etc/blends/blends.conf breaks dist-upgrade

2010-04-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 07:58:07PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Package: junior-toys Version: 1.19 Severity: normal I am running apt-get dist-upgrade as part of the process of upgrading a system from Lenny to testing. Upgrading junior-toys fails in the following manner: Unpacking

Re: broken link under http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/compchannel_article (was: Veralteter Link)

2010-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 07:09:17PM +0200, Simon Paillard wrote: Hi Michael, On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 03:09:41PM +0200, Michael Kerkhoff wrote: auf der Seite http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-jr/compchannel_article ist der Link http://www.linuxforkids.com/ veraltet. Thanks for

Bug#577062: more info on this bug (and possible solution)

2010-11-08 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Gonzalo, On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:57:37AM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: As far as I know, if junior-games-gl (or junior-toys) needs blends-common to be fully configured BEFORE junior-games-gl gets upgraded, then this one must PRE-DEPEND on the other, not just depend on

Bug#577062: Upload of Blends metapackages to testing-proposed-updates

2010-11-08 Thread Andreas Tille
-Depends: blends-common (= 0.6.14) +Closes: #577062 + + -- Andreas Tille ti...@debian.org Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:34:21 +0100 + debian-junior (1.19) unstable; urgency=low * Rebuild against blends-dev = 0.6.12. This results in diff -ubrN debian-junior-1.19/debian/control debian-junior-1.20/debian

Bug#577062: Upload of Blends metapackages to testing-proposed-updates

2010-11-08 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:19:41PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 17:56:14 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: This should go to sid, not tpu. Ahh, OK. Also adding new Pre-Depends requires explanation and discussion on debian-devel first. I'll do so - but it seems

Bug#577062: junior-toys: missing /etc/blends/blends.conf breaks dist-upgrade

2010-11-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Steve, On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 12:30:01PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: severity 577062 serious thanks Thanks for the tagging I was about to do so (should have done earlier) and to merge it with #601959 (which is actually the very same problem just filed against science-* but junior packages

Bugs #577062, #601959, #603853: Please unblock blends, debian-junior, debian-med, debian-science

2010-11-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I would like to ask you for unblocking the following packages debian-med version 1.8(closes: #603853) debian-science version 0.12 (closes: #601959) debian-junior version 1.20 (closes: #577062) blends version 0.6.15 (packages above (Build-)Depend

Re: Bugs #577062, #601959, #603853: Please unblock blends, debian-junior, debian-med, debian-science

2010-12-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi release heros, you people rock! On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 06:26:10PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: debian-med version 1.8(closes: #603853) Unblocked, will migrate tonight. ... Thanks Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian podcast interview

2011-03-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jonathan, I perfectly remember your interview about Debian Med and Blends in general. While I'm a big fan of the Debian Junior project because somehow the idea of Blends was born / implemented first in this project it is now unmaintained / dying for about five years. There were some people

Re: Introducing DoudouLinux

2011-07-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jean-Michel, On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:52:34AM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: Concerning Debian Jr., we feel very excited about the idea, despite the fact that we still have a vague idea of your expectations. We currently generate meta-packages from Debian Live package lists (text

Re: Introducing DoudouLinux

2011-07-27 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jean-Michel, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:39:24PM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: Thank you Andreas for your detailed answer. We are now better understanding what “reviving Debian Jr” can mean :). It finally means what *you* make it (inside the boundaries of Debian). As I told to Paul

Re: Introducing DoudouLinux

2011-08-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 12:02:12AM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: in most cases the set of dependencies is not choosen the way it is on purpose but due to a lack of user requirements. Just express your requirements apropriately and fix the thing inside Debian. Do you mean there are

Re: Introducing DoudouLinux

2011-08-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:03:31AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Explain why this is better than pinning. It is not *better* but it introduces a different/additional concept. I also do not see in how far this can help for creating an install medium using debian-life (or something like this).

Ping (Was: Introducing DoudouLinux)

2012-01-23 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jean-Michel, any news from Debian Jr.? Kind regards Andreas. On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:26:02AM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: Hello, I see that customization of a meta-package selection is a hot topic ;) with no obvious solution since dependencies are not designed for

Re: Ping (Was: Introducing DoudouLinux)

2012-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Ben, On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:23:53PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: I did not have any notion that I was holding the ball on this one. And I did not pinged you personally, right? And Debian Jr., which I orphaned quite some time ago, has no new leader, so waiting for Debian Jr. to take any

Re: Ping (Was: Introducing DoudouLinux)

2012-01-25 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 06:28:48PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 24/01/12 05:56 PM, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: Thanks for your attention. Let me know if you have ever thought about a way to hand on the torch. As far as I would see it the torch has just left Ben's hand and is simply waiting

Moving information from tasks files into Vcs

2012-06-07 Thread Andreas Tille
[For the not so scientific Blends teams: the intend to work on scientific publication data has lead to other improvements also for your maintenence of tasks files ... even if I'm afraid that some teams do not really maintain their tasks files and possibly do not even know that these exist.]

Re: Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 03:59:45AM +0200, Axel Beckert wrote: There were already discussion about a DebConf 13 Kindergarten on one of the lists after it's clear that very likely many children from the German Cabal^W^W^WGerman DDs will come to DC13. It was initiated IIRC by Martin

Re: Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:42:35AM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: Premises: 0. I do not think creating yet another mailing list, project, infrastructure, ... is really needed. 1. debian-jr@lists.debian.org, a.k.a. https://lists.debian.org/debian-jr/, holds very low traffic. 2.

Re: Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Hector, On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 06:56:01PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: I just got admin rights in debian-jr team. I am also DebConfIsta and in touch with Debconf organizers, even putting tiny bits in there. I think this topic is so important that I feel like taking responsability for it,

Re: Debian Kids Camp for DebConf-next

2012-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 06:13:56PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote: Cool. You can count on me from the Debian Pure Blends perspective. Thanks! I was wondering which software is included currently on Debian-Jr Pure Blend, so educators and interested parties can start evaluating those. Was there

Re: Rewriting Debian Jr. packages

2012-10-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Jean-Michel, On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:31:08AM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: Ok nice, if nobody has an affective relation with the work previously achieved, that's easier for us to work on it as you noticed! I still need to read particular points of the blends but I think at first

Re: problem with package junior-tasks

2012-12-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Kenneth, On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:24:03AM -0500, Kenneth Bull wrote: Cause: /usr/share/tasksel/debian-junior-tasks.desc is at the wrong location in the package junior-tasks Solution: move /usr/share/tasksel/debian-junior-tasks.desc to /usr/share/tasksel/descs/debian-tasks.desc

Re: adding package oneko to Kids/Packages

2013-09-05 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I'm happy that Debian Jr/Kids gets some momentum!!! However, to avoid some early burn out I'd *strongly* recommend not to wast your time with manual editing of the Wiki. We have *way* better means to do this and I would really recommend on keeping on maintaining

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, as I said I like your idea of age based debtags but it seems there is not so much response. I admit I do not feel really competent here but its a shame to leave you alone with a good idea. On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 11:00:23PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: The first thing I would like to

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 01:54:57PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 11:00:23PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: The first thing I would like to do is to classify the games that might be appropriate for kids of different ages, and based on that build the rest. I

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:20:44PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Maybe we should start setting up the lists of packages that might be relevant for kids, at the same time. Well, the list is setup here http://blends.alioth.debian.org/junior/tasks/packagelist [1] and it is also

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:53:42AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: if somebody would simply tell me. If you prefer Git please tell me right now and you will have the Debian Jr tasks in Git in 24h. SVN is okay, thanks :) OK. I can do that, and it would be a very visible first

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Miriam, On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 06:54:58PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Your vision is fine and I definitely share it. However, I fail to see the contradiction. The tasks can perfectly be used for classification as well. So if you want to invent new tasks age-0-3 age-3-6

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:48:20PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: While you could for sure create tasks like this educational-age-0-3 educational-age-3-6 educational-age-6-12 game-age-0-3 game-age-3-6 game-age-6-12 toy-age-0-3 toy-age-3-6 toy-age-6-12

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:50:14PM +0200, Jean-Michel Philippe wrote: ... 1. have an idea of the age for which it is supposed to be fit 2. know the kind of apps it is (education, entertainment, music, drawing, etc.) So I agree with the 2 axes classification and think this should be

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2014-01-16 Thread Andreas Tille
[Luis, sorry for bothering you twice with a wrong mailing list address] Hi folks, this list is really silent. Didn't we agreed to revitalise Debian Junior? May be we can do something together with http://opensource.com/education/14/1/teaching-kids-linux and doudoulinux which is also

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