Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-15 Thread anatoly techtonik
Given that people are tired of discussing things they've already decided for themselves I CC this to debian-legal. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > The Debian policy is software with source code: the DocBook source document. It is not clear why GPL notice doesn't stay in the

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-15 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
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Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-15 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Christoph Egger wrote: > anatoly techtonik schrieb: >> >> Questions like "Debian Python Policy is all about GPL. Do I have to >> release my Python package under GPL?". Most people (as you clearly >> expressed) don't care, so upstream maintainers would just avoid D

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-13 Thread Ben Finney
anatoly techtonik writes: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Ben Finney > wrote: > > Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ridiculous to put a policy > > document under GPL than any other document? > > It is in the same ridiculous for other document. It is ridiculous in > the way people want to

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Christoph Egger
anatoly techtonik schrieb: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Adam wrote: >> This is a topic for debian-legal not debian-pyhton. Discuss it with them >> (after looking at the archive), as they are the experts. If there are >> problems (= results) that can be brought here again. > > The point is t

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Adam wrote: > This is a topic for debian-legal not debian-pyhton. Discuss it with them > (after looking at the archive), as they are the experts. If there are > problems (= results) that can be brought here again. The point is to make Python Policy clear without a

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
> Hello, > > The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent > citing Debian Policy in private talks. I imagine people discussing > "those folks at Debian. Have you heard - they've changed you-know-what > to make packaging easier". =) > > Is there any license that more clearl

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Adam
> I wouldn't go so far and see documentation as software. Apart from that > I agree that it is important to clarify what one can do with this > documentation (quote, modify, redistribute, etc.) and under which rules > this has to happen. For example, when I quote a paragraph of the > documentation

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Bastian Venthur
Omer Zak schrieb: > On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 14:27 +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> Ben Finney schrieb: >>> anatoly techtonik writes: >>> The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent citing Debian Policy in private talks. >>> Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ri

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Omer Zak
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 14:27 +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Ben Finney schrieb: > > anatoly techtonik writes: > > > >> The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent > >> citing Debian Policy in private talks. > > > > Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ridiculous to put

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Bastian Venthur
Ben Finney schrieb: > anatoly techtonik writes: > >> The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent >> citing Debian Policy in private talks. > > Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ridiculous to put a policy document > under GPL than any other document? Quoting the sec

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > >> The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent >> citing Debian Policy in private talks. > > Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ridiculous to put a policy document > under GPL than any other document? It is in the

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread Ben Finney
anatoly techtonik writes: > The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent > citing Debian Policy in private talks. Why is it ridiculous? Is it any more ridiculous to put a policy document under GPL than any other document? > I imagine people discussing "those folks at D

Re: Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-12 Thread anatoly techtonik
Hello, The policy is under GPL license which is kind of ridiculous to prevent citing Debian Policy in private talks. I imagine people discussing "those folks at Debian. Have you heard - they've changed you-know-what to make packaging easier". =) Is there any license that more clearly states reaso

Final updates for this Python Policy revision

2009-12-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
I think we are at the point where the proposed update to the Python Policy is clearly more relevant and better than what is currently published. Once this is done, we can work on refinements. Loïc Minier (lool) did attempt to send the proposed final patch set to the list and it has gotten stuc