Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya micah - thanx for trying ... lets see what happens On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > Alvin Oga schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. June 2005: > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: ... > > > Did you read the email that I referenced? It doesn't sound like you > > > did.

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Micah Anderson
Alvin Oga schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. June 2005: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > > > > i think you can search thru the debian security archives just as > > > easily as i can or in fact even more easily since yu have a debian acct ?? > > > > Did you read the email that I refer

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > > i think you can search thru the debian security archives just as > > easily as i can or in fact even more easily since yu have a debian acct ?? > > Did you read the email that I referenced? It doesn't sound like you > did. this is precisely why vo

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Micah Anderson
Alvin Oga schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. June 2005: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > > > Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: > > > > You sent an email where about what and got no response? I did not see > > your offer to help come across the mailing list (if it is th

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Alvin Oga] > i don't want any handholding ... other than access the the resources > and info and/or question answer .. > - in my case, i'd like to create test-sec.debian.org > for which i cannot do anything about it unless i do get > some handholding and it's purpse to supplemen

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: > > You sent an email where about what and got no response? I did not see > your offer to help come across the mailing list (if it is there, can > you point out the URL to the message?)... i think you

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Micah Anderson
Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > > > Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: > > > > If you are interested in testing security, then there is a group > > working on this project. Here is some information about the history of

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Micah Anderson wrote: > Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: > > If you are interested in testing security, then there is a group > working on this project. Here is some information about the history of > the team, and if you read through the message there is inf

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Micah Anderson
Alvin Oga schrieb am Tuesday, den 28. June 2005: [snip] > etch/testing where are the security patches ?? > - i want it to also have latest apps i care about > ( latest kernels, latest apache, latest xxx, .. ) > > - this is the parts i'm interested in structuring for security

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.28.1451 +0200]: > > - all other debian boxes does NOT trust it and nbody else should > > trust it either... it is "for testing and development" > > I know. But what happens when someone decides to ab

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Robert Lemmen
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 05:20:51AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > personally, i pull down all the important tar balls from the originating > author's site and compile it ... if the distro's version of any app is > "too far behind" the main point about stable security is that exactly this does not happe

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.28.1451 +0200]: > - all other debian boxes does NOT trust it and nbody else should > trust it either... it is "for testing and development" I know. But what happens when someone decides to abuse it? I could host a machine, no problem. But giving r

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > Just use this list. i think the point of "this list" is its not moving fast enough for some folks wanting security updates > > the machine can be called sec-test.debian.org so that we have > > a way to test another security update/process/procedure

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.28.1420 +0200]: > if somebody at debian.org can create yaml, say > [EMAIL PROTECTED], than the rest of us moaners, > complainers and wanna-volunteer can get started ... Just use this list. > the machine can be called sec-test.debian.org so that w

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > > > thanks for the proposal. why did you write it and not just get on > > with those scripts already? if somebody at debian.org can create yaml, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], than the rest of us moaners, complainers

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, martin f krafft wrote: > thanks for the proposal. why did you write it and not just get on > with those scripts already? i volunteered before to start writing it .. but the "team" had other plans so they went to do what they're looking at doing which is good and bad ...

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 11:02, martin f krafft wrote: > > instead of adding to the security team's tasks, and instead of > > writting emails, why don't we spend the time to write some scripts > > to do what we're expecting to be done by the security team ?? > > thanks for the proposal. why did you

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.28.1031 +0200]: > lots of people have their own requiremetns for security ... security *is* subjective. > instead of adding to the security team's tasks, and instead of > writting emails, why don't we spend the time to write some scripts > to do

Re: Bad press related to (missing) Debian security - action

2005-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Javier [iso-8859-1] Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: lots of people have their own requiremetns for security ... instead of adding to the security team's tasks, and instead of writting emails, why don't we spend the time to write some scripts to do what we're expecting