Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who gives a shit about politics, and what the hell has it it got to do with > > the debian mailing list??? > It's the Debian *USER* list, not the *DEBIAN* User list. As has been > discussed several times every time a long thread comes up the list is f

2.6.20

2007-02-25 Thread pinniped
If you follow 'kerneltrap.org', 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 are bug-ridden. 2.6.19 shipped with bugs and 2.6.20 hasn't worked them all out yet. But if you enjoy playing with the latest 'git' data, this is what happens. I usually wait until a released version is a few weeks old before I decide to play

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:19:01 -0500 Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to sound stupid, but how does one use this ignore thread feature? > I'm pretty new to mailing lists so I'm guessing I respond to the topic > and put ignore in the subject header, but I could be wrong and don't > wan

We need an off-topic list (was Re: REALLY OT: News Flash)

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it's GREATLY increasing the noise:signal > > ratio for people who don't know about "ignore thread" or other such things. > > It doesn't bother me personally (like I said I've found some of the messages > > in this thread quite interesting... and if I do

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 14:47, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > Or when you > want to go camping out in the middle of nowhere.

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-25 Thread tom arnall
On Sunday 11 February 2007 21:57, Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 09:51:35AM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > On Sunday 11 February 2007 02:12, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > quoting from your my.cnf > > > > > > # WARNING: Using expire_logs_days without bin_log crashes the se

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Nigel Henry wrote: > Personally I think this thread is a bit sick, and also a bit sad. That's ok if we can think that of you. > I thought this mailing list debian-user@lists.debian.org was for for folks > using debian to get answers to their problems. You thought wrong. > What's the ma

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel's weird close/quit behaviour

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Joe Hart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 06:53:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: One of the things that draws me to KDE is the fact that _almost_ everything is configurable (I can't change the foreground text color on the items in t

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 25 February 2007 19:39, Paul Johnson wrote: > Max Hyre wrote: > >Ladies and gentlemen: > > > > > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better > > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 12:24:26PM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better > > > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could so

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:13:00 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/25/07 06:16, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> On 02/24/07 16:51,

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:55:58PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > I remember when I was in elementary school (in Virginia) that we were > taught the metric system because "the rest of the world uses it and > we're going to switch soon." That never happened. > I guess that's like "this year is the ye

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:55:58PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Michael Pobega wrote: > Please

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much >> better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also >> readily available (

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > In size and authority, yes, but unfortunately not in ability to serve it's > public, which really should be the litmus test of a government's success > overall. Uh, no. There is a reason why the Constitution specifically limits powers not explicitly granted to the Federa

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Michael Pobega wrote: Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about how much w

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > That explains one of the reasons that public transportation is much > better here, although in New York City, public transportation is also > readily available (unless it is raining :) ) > Public transportation viability also depends o

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:42:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > $4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be > > allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery > > That's the price of a gallon of gas. In the US, this price is largely

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:41:02AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > > > It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive > > small cars. > > That's why I drive a small car and why small cars are popular in the > non-retarded segment of the American population a

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 02:04:27PM -0600, cothrige wrote: > * Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Anyway, voluntary abortion is legal in most countries, including the > > USA, so voluntary abortion does not meet the statutory definition of > > "murder". > > > > I am obviously inserting

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:14:05AM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > a·bor·tion (??-bôr'sh??n) > n. > 1. a. Termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus > that is incapable of survival. >b. Any of various procedures that result in such termination and > expulsion. Also called i

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Miles Fidelman
Paul Johnson wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:48:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm not really convinced that's the case. Glasnost allowed the average Soviet to find out the full horror of their regime's history. The collective shock, awe and outrage of the

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Pobega wrote: > $4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be > allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery That's the price of a gallon of gas. In the US, this price is largely subsidized by military force so it's artificially low. -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:32:06PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > There have been in the past various proposals for some sort of an "OT" > list; search the archives for the discussions. I'm not actually too > familiar with the pros and cons, but it has been discussed before. > It is also important to

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:38:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure > > before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? > > Everybody. When has any country having breadlines and commodity shortages >

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:36:33AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > Of course, it can also be viewed as big research project, in which case > > there were some successes. > > I'll grant you that much, as a research project it was moderately > successful. Though I thin

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: > It's not much better anywhere in Europe. That's why most people drive > small cars. That's why I drive a small car and why small cars are popular in the non-retarded segment of the American population as well. :o) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:24:26 -0800 Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Maybe a "debian-chat" list would be a good thing! We're all part of the > debian community, and it's good for communities to socialize, and having a > place for debian people where "anything goes" would help

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better > > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? > > > > > >Thank you for your attention. Yo

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..aye, but how many of us on the western side could know for sure > before Russia Left the SU?  Or even on the eastern side? Everybody. When has any country having breadlines and commodity shortages been built to last? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Run out of disk space on LVM

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:40:13PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > if you can, repartition the LVM, merge / and /usr and mount /tmp on tmpfs > (you can put remaining space on swap, or /) > Out of curiousity, why do you recommend merging / and /usr? I personally think that being able to

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Max Hyre wrote: >Ladies and gentlemen: > > >I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better > than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? > > >Thank you for your attention. You may n

Etch installation problem

2007-02-25 Thread jwhill2000
I know of two ways you can work around this - I have encountered this problem too. You can either install sarge and do a dist-upgrade or a 2-step process of installing etch. Install Sarge base system: 1) Install sarge 2) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list; change "sarge" entries to "etch" 3) apt-get

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 03:48:56PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> I'm not really convinced that's the case. Glasnost allowed the average >> Soviet to find out the full horror of their regime's history. The >> collective shock, awe and outrage of the Soviet populati

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Pobega wrote: > You're ruling out one of the main candidates in the 2008 election; > Rudolph Gullianni. As far as I know he has had nothing to do with any > wars. Rudy doesn't have a leg to stand on. His popularity increases the farther away from New York City you get. This idiot picked

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 09:31:39PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:21:34PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > >> > I must admit the vast majority of my exposure to Canada is BC and >> > Alberta, >> > which I understand are a bit more prog

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:47:59PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/25/07 13:20, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > >> > >> Michael Pobega wrote: > [snip] > > > > Like I said, I forgot to do th

Re: 2.6.20 and IP_CONNTRACK_FTP

2007-02-25 Thread David Baron
So playing with make menuconfig: I can get this module and be missing half of what was around in previous kernels or get the rest back and still be missing ip_conntrack_ftp.ko. Either way, the thing will boot but will not connect. It may not work with nvidia's driver either at this point. So ma

Re: debian astrolog package tips

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: mrweb wrote: On Sunday 11 February 2007 06:03, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: mrweb wrote: Hi, I am using astrolog with both Sarge and Etch, it installed perfectly each time that i installed it with a simple call to "apt-get install astrolog" minus the quotes of course, an

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread cothrige
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Anyway, voluntary abortion is legal in most countries, including the > USA, so voluntary abortion does not meet the statutory definition of > "murder". > I am obviously inserting myself into another person's conversation, and for that I apologize, but

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 13:20, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> >> Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] > > Like I said, I forgot to do the conversions. I've never been over the > border so I just assume everything in t

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:43:32AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: This actually falls into a similar category as one of my favorite phrases ever: "There are no atheists in foxholes". Well, people do like to pretend that they are in control of the world until they reali

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 13:14, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 08:56 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> I find it funny that you think I am Democrat. Besides, how else would >> characterize abortion? The death penalty is state-sanctioned killing of >>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per >> liter. Do the

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about > >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per > >> liter.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per >> liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US Gallon. >> >> It'

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael M.
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 08:56 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > I find it funny that you think I am Democrat. Besides, how else would > characterize abortion? The death penalty is state-sanctioned killing of > capital offenders. Combat is the state-sanctioned killing of the agents > of a belli

A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 06:16, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On 02/24/07 16:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:52:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 03:16, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> "People" don't give a right rat's ass about prices and wages >> correcting when they (and their families) are hungry and being >> tossed out of their homes. > > That implies that the car

Boot with USB-disk + linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 (sid)

2007-02-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Because I prefer to run with a Debian Kernel instead of rolling my own I decided to try again. Installed linux-image-2.6.18-4-k7 on Sid. There is a USB disk installed that has entries in /etc/fstab. I boot with that image and I get: ... Sun Feb 25 11:11:28 2007: fsck.ext2: No such file

Re: problem installing Debian on HP R class 9000

2007-02-25 Thread ram
Hi all iam using web console to configure HP R Class 9000 Server iam attaching the gif files taken screen shot when its booting here are the Files any suggestion and help will be appriciated http://picasaweb.google.com/talk2ram/HpProblems ram

Re: setting-up a dmz

2007-02-25 Thread mess-mate
Franck Joncourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...snip... | | To me, it looks like a driver probleme as you mentionned above about the | message you got at boot time. | After changed the order of the cards, the 3com card and the others woks perfectly. So it's not the card nor the driver. It's always

Re: Using courier-imap (was Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove)

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > Am 2007-02-14 16:45:42, schrieb Chris Bannister: > > > That would be great! Would this be ok: > > > # Mailboxes which get new mail. > > > mailboxes `echo $HOME/.Maildir/*` > On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 05:45:21PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > No it would not since you have to setup: > > > >

Re: Run out of disk space on LVM

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.02.07 10:58, Justin Hartman wrote: > I must say I'm a little confused here. In the past I just created one > large partition for my debian install but for this one machine I setup > seperate partitions using LVM. I may be way off the mark here but I > thought that with lvm I could resize part

eth0: Too much work at interrupt, IntrStatus=0x0001.

2007-02-25 Thread ram
Hi all I have just installed Debian sarge using bussiness CD, and running firewall between my web server and internet its working fine, but i have problem when i dmesg, iam getting the eth0: Too much work at interrupt, IntrStatus=0x0001. i googled but i did not get proper solution, is there a

Re: udev issues backing up /dev

2007-02-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 09:59:35AM +0100, pinniped wrote: > > Just make sure you have the (empty) directories /dev and /dev/pts. The > > system DOES need a few devices before udev does its magic - for those > > create the device nodes the usual way. (have a look at the makedevices > > script

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:43:32AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > This actually falls into a similar category as one of my favorite > phrases ever: "There are no atheists in foxholes". Well, people do like to pretend that they are in control of the world until they realize that they are not.

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:40:23AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > I hate talking to Democrats about politics. I'm trying to discuss my > opinions in a friendly manner, and you jump into murdering innocent > babies? I'm glad you have the social capacity to keep a sane > conversation continuing

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:39:04AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > > >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about > >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Eur

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:36:42AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:16:58AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day > > and age clearly shows they don't. That's not a flaw with economics, that's >

OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Kent West
Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > >> Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about >> how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per >> liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US

Re: file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Baurzhan Ismagulov
Hello Michael, On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:22:02AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I'm pretty sure if you right click in the background you can check > "Show Hidden Files". I haven't used IceApe/IceWeasel in a long time > but I remember it working like that. This works, thanks much! With kind rega

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:25:40AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:16:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > I'm rambling though, and probably a little biased since I'm a > > Republican. > > > Yup. Too bad the Gullianni supports the murder of innocent babies. > Oth

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:16:58AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day > and age clearly shows they don't. That's not a flaw with economics, that's a > flaw with most people's character. > I wouldn't even describe it as a char

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:00:43AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > > My interpretation is that KDM is the display manager, which is the > function equivalent to GDM or XDM. Stopping and starting KDM will stop > and start X along with it. If you want to get technical, KDE is just a > bunch of differen

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > Please don't start talking about gas prices. It makes me think about > how much we get ripped off at the pumps. Current price is 1.40 Euro per > liter. Do the math: 1.3 Euro = 1 Dollar. 3.8 liter = 1 US Gallon. > > It's not much b

Re: audio recorder in linux ... what's its name?

2007-02-25 Thread steef
H.S. wrote: I remember there is an application to record audio (mic or line-in) and IIRC it had the X11 interface. What I also remember is the level meters it had, they were two dials, one for each channel, and had needles showing the levels (something like a speedometer on dashboards of a v

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:16:51AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > You're ruling out one of the main candidates in the 2008 election; > Rudolph Gullianni. As far as I know he has had nothing to do with any > wars. > > And if you remember anything about 9/11 he was the most supportive > governmen

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: > > [What this has to do with Debian, or Free Software, or computing at > all's beyond me. BTW, I'm a Canuck, so I'm irrelevant.] > Everyone involved in the discussion is a Debian user. That's how it is related :-) Regards, -Roberto

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Max Hyre
Ladies and gentlemen: I like a good digression as well as the next person, probably better than most, but this is ridiculous. I'd love to see this go over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could someone set it up, please? Thank you for your attention. You may now return to your previously-schedu

Re: file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:48:05AM +0100, Baurzhan Ismagulov wrote: > Hello all, > > I've tried to upload a file in the latest iceape and have seen that it > uses a different file dialog. Two problems: First, I can't type a file > name manually. Second, it doesn't show files starting with dot. >

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On 02/24/07 16:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 01:52:56PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [snip] > > > Here is an idea. Why don't voters just make it a poin

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:52:27AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > You can pump your own gas in Oregon, just join a membership cardlock > > station. You sign a waiver making it technically a form of employment with > > no h

file dialog in iceape

2007-02-25 Thread Baurzhan Ismagulov
Hello all, I've tried to upload a file in the latest iceape and have seen that it uses a different file dialog. Two problems: First, I can't type a file name manually. Second, it doesn't show files starting with dot. For the first problem, I've found a magic Ctrl-F combination (no help button, no

Re: setting-up a dmz

2007-02-25 Thread Franck Joncourt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mess-mate wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Sat, Feb 24, 2007 at 06:22:30PM +0100, mess-mate wrote: > | > > | > What did i wrong ?? > | > > | No use shorewall? Not provide any actual log messages? > | > No shorewall, i p

Raid 5 Sata

2007-02-25 Thread Pierguido Lambri
Hi list. I need ad advice. We have to buy a new raid 5 sata controller with 8 ports available. We already had an Areca arc-1120 but we got some problems, so we decided to change it. Looking on internet i found this tree possibilities (ah sorry...we have to use a pci-x controller): 3WARE 9550SX-8LP

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-02-25 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > "People" don't give a right rat's ass about prices and wages > correcting when they (and their families) are hungry and being > tossed out of their homes. That implies that the care when they're fat and happy, which today's day and age clearly shows they don't. That's not

Re: audio recorder in linux ... what's its name?

2007-02-25 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2007-02-25, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember there is an application to record audio (mic or line-in) and > IIRC it had the X11 interface. What I also remember is the level meters > it had, they were two dials, one for each channel, and had needles > showing the levels (something

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 s. keeling wrote: > How about electing only people who've had nothing to do with > invading innocent bystanders? By definition a politician affects his constituents, many of which can be classified as innocent bystanders. Not to mention that the Pre

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-02-25 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:55:31PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> It never occurred to me to stop KDM while I am in X, because it is the >> service that starts X and I just logically concluded (assumed) that >> shutting down kdm fro

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