Re: Black screens on old nVidia card

2023-04-12 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Wed Apr 12 21:44:23 2023 Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:59:43 -0700 > Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> $ cat /etc/debian_version >> 11.5 > > Hmm, the current version is 11.6. Maybe there's a fix in the upgrades > you haven't yet installed??? Dunno. But the display has always been

Re: Black screens on old nVidia card

2023-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
Charlie Gibbs composed on 2023-04-12 10:59 (UTC-0700): > My tower (running Bullseye) has been suffering the black screen > of... well, not quite death (I can ssh in from another machine and > look at things), but it's certainly unusable for normal purposes. > I have an old nVidia video card; I've

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> If I'm not wrong, RFC compliance may even be required in some areas (via >> contracts). > That might happen, but it wouldn't be a great idea from a legal > standpoint: RFCs are often ambiguous in surprising ways. Most contracts are ambiguous in surprising ways anyway :-) Stefan

Re: Black screens on old nVidia card

2023-04-12 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 10:59:43 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 11.5 Hmm, the current version is 11.6. Maybe there's a fix in the upgrades you haven't yet installed??? > [ 1406.213319] NVRM: GPU at PCI::01:00: > GPU-d7903bd4-9549-9f07-5796-886c12d2031c > [

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 avril 2023 David Wright a écrit : > the menu/ is moot. I would maintain that this failure mode is rare > enough for a reasonable penalty of having to type a few characters > editing the Grub menu. > > The last time I booted a kernel that was on a different partition > from my installed

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 12:12:23AM +, David wrote: > $ echo [^0-9]* > 11 22 <-- new behaviour by dash The [^chars] syntax is a negation in Basic and Extended Regular Expressions, and in bash's globs (it's a bash extension), but NOT in POSIX globs. The correct negation syntax in

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
zithro wrote: > On 13 Apr 2023 01:15, Dan Ritter wrote: > > zithro wrote: > > > On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ? > > > > Sort of. > > > > At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take > > notes. Not quite

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
Something else I've noticed with bash. Those work when run in mate-terminal but not in console for some strange reason. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Wed, 12 Apr 2023, Jude

Re: Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
When I write bash scripts and I've done this for several debian versions I use: #!/usr/bin/env bash That has worked in the past. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Thu, 13 Apr 2023,

Bookworm: dash shell globs don't recognise [^...] to negate a character class

2023-04-12 Thread David
In Debian, shell scripts that have #!/usr/bin/sh as the first line are executed by the 'dash' shell. If you write such scripts, you might be interested to know that 'dash' currently has a behaviour change in Debian version 12 Bookworm compared to Debian version 11 Bullseye. This is being

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 13 Apr 2023 01:15, Dan Ritter wrote: zithro wrote: On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ? Sort of. At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take notes. Not quite certain of how accurately he had transcribed things, he

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
zithro wrote: > On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > RFCs are there for having a common ground, right ? Sort of. At various meetings, a grad student was "volunteered" to take notes. Not quite certain of how accurately he had transcribed things, he typed up "Request For Comments" at

Re: [testing] shadow drive et debian

2023-04-12 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le jeudi 13 avril 2023 à 00:42 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > > > - Mail original - > De: "Gaëtan Perrier" > À: "liste.debian" > Envoyé: Mercredi 12 Avril 2023 23:10:01 > Objet: [testing] shadow drive et debian > > Bonjour, > > Je viens d'essayer d'installer le paquet deb

Re: [testing] shadow drive et debian

2023-04-12 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le mercredi 12 avril 2023 à 23:10 +0200, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je viens d'essayer d'installer le paquet deb shadow 8.0.10059 sur ma debian > testing. > Y a eu une erreur à la fin de l'installation du paquet mais ça s'est installé > quand même. Ensuite quand je lance l'appli

Re: [testing] shadow drive et debian

2023-04-12 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
- Mail original - De: "Gaëtan Perrier" À: "liste.debian" Envoyé: Mercredi 12 Avril 2023 23:10:01 Objet: [testing] shadow drive et debian Bonjour, Je viens d'essayer d'installer le paquet deb shadow 8.0.10059 sur ma debian testing. Y a eu une erreur à la fin de l'installation du

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 4/12/23, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > I was playing with the addresses listed by Albretch ... On 4/12/23, David Wright wrote: > After googling them, I gave Moxee a call. They answer to a subtly > different name, but it's the same business: a Canadian/US company > that's been

[testing] shadow drive et debian

2023-04-12 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Bonjour, Je viens d'essayer d'installer le paquet deb shadow 8.0.10059 sur ma debian testing. Y a eu une erreur à la fin de l'installation du paquet mais ça s'est installé quand même. Ensuite quand je lance l'appli shadow PC ça m'ouvre une fenêtre me proposant de me logger via un navigateur. Ce

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 22:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:04:42PM +0200, zithro wrote: So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider (in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ? Why do you sound surprised? This is how everything works.

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 20:18:19 (+0100), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > I was playing with the addresses listed by Albretch and found that > 199.254.252.1 is interesting. whois says it belongs to "Alexandria Sash > & Door (ASD-1)" and > https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_wa/601161047 (via

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 07:50:33 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-04-12 at 07:44, Michel Verdier wrote: > > Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit : > > > >> Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra > >> GRUB-menu entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.? > > > >

Re: SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry ...

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 19:51, Albretch Mueller wrote: I always use a Debian live DVD while exposed. The thing is that in order to squeeze every minute of attention I possibly can I tend to: a) just close the lid of my laptop b) while keeping the DVD player attached to the laptop c) then,

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 19:20, John Hasler wrote: zithro writes: To not have to handle issues with security or availability of an own mail server. I use pobox.com's paid service. Email is their business. I run Postfix locally using the Pobox server as a smarthost and use Fetchmail to download my mail

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 10:04:42PM +0200, zithro wrote: > So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider > (in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ? Why do you sound surprised? This is how everything works. Everything.

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
[Note: I snipped everything for easier read, and replied to the most recent email] Thank you all for your constructive answers ! This was a really interesting read. So it seems that, despite (incomplete?) standards, each provider (in the whole mail chain, MUA, MTA, etc) "does what he wants" ?

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 19:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:40:45PM +0200, zithro wrote: [...] But they don't work for you. Well, in a sense, yes, and freely ^^ You don't want to be convinced No, that's not how life works. How pretentious is that sentence ... Nonetheless,

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.04.2023 00:00, Albretch Mueller wrote: Yes, but should it happen on every hop? In my case it happens while I am trying to reach every site and from wherever I have the chance to get some relatively decent Internet access? There is a chance your trace packets were filtered (rate-limited),

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. > > > $ traceroute google.com > > traceroute to google.com (172.217.0.174), 30 hops max, 60 byte > > packets 1 _gateway (199.83.128.1) 6.687

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 4/12/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > unicorn:~$ traceroute www.google.com > traceroute to www.google.com (142.250.190.4), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets > 1 routerlogin.net (10.0.0.1) 0.413 ms 0.355 ms 0.415 ms > 2 65-131-222-254.mnfd.centurylink.net (65.131.222.254) 38.070 ms 39.776 > ms

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:16:08PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:06 PM wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised > > > when unexpected things

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Apr 2023 at 14:02:39 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:52 PM wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer > > > wrote: > > > > ... > > > > Some mail services apparently treat

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread John Conover
to...@tuxteam.de writes: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer > > wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that > > > look like duplicates of ones you already

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:06 PM wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised > > when unexpected things happen. > > Unexpected things happen to me all the time -- the least of them are

Black screens on old nVidia card

2023-04-12 Thread Charlie Gibbs
My tower (running Bullseye) has been suffering the black screen of... well, not quite death (I can ssh in from another machine and look at things), but it's certainly unusable for normal purposes. I have an old nVidia video card; I've always had a bit of trouble with it, but things got better

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. > $ traceroute google.com > traceroute to google.com (172.217.0.174), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets > 1 _gateway (199.83.128.1) 6.687 ms 6.660 ms 6.683 ms > 2

Re: OffTopic: iniciar programas gráficos en otra computadora, solo con X

2023-04-12 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El 12/4/23 a las 14:55, JavierDebian escribió: El 12/4/23 a las 14:46, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Hola a todos, esto es mas una duda que se me ocurrió mientras pensaba en la inmortalidad del cangrejo, y que no se ni como buscarla en google para resolverla por mi mismo. Yo se que si estoy

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:38:37 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >I don't think I would blame GMail for that. Maybe it's the sender's MUA? It's well known that google discard what they see as 'duplicate' messages. It is nothing to do with the sender's MUA. Always remember google's

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > If you wish to wander from the convention, then don't be surprised > when unexpected things happen. Unexpected things happen to me all the time -- the least of them are related to Message-IDs. My Message-IDs are fine,

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 05:37:32PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I have found a few examples and "explanations" but in the cases of > the examples I have seen by other people, like: Quoth the man page: This program attempts to trace the route an IP packet would follow to some internet

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:52 PM wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that > > > look like duplicates of ones

Re: What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 avril 2023 Albretch Mueller a écrit : > It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. I my case it > is with all sites and once the packets reach the web (from hop 5 to > 30), from wherever I connect to the Internet. Why would that happen > and why would that -consistently-

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:40:45PM +0200, zithro wrote: [...] > > But they don't work for you. > > Well, in a sense, yes, and freely ^^ You don't want to be convinced, I don't want to be convinced, so let's be nice to the rest of humankind and shut up now. [...] > Ah ah, this answer ... "I

Re: OffTopic: iniciar programas gráficos en otra computadora, solo con X

2023-04-12 Thread JavierDebian
El 12/4/23 a las 14:46, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: Hola a todos, esto es mas una duda que se me ocurrió mientras pensaba en la inmortalidad del cangrejo, y que no se ni como buscarla en google para resolverla por mi mismo. Yo se que si estoy en la computadora A, y quiero arrancar algún

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:38:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > > > ... > > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that > > look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a > > feature;

SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache entry ...

2023-04-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
I always use a Debian live DVD while exposed. The thing is that in order to squeeze every minute of attention I possibly can I tend to: a) just close the lid of my laptop b) while keeping the DVD player attached to the laptop c) then, reopen it and continue. That way I avoid like 5 minutes

OffTopic: iniciar programas gráficos en otra computadora, solo con X

2023-04-12 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
Hola a todos, esto es mas una duda que se me ocurrió mientras pensaba en la inmortalidad del cangrejo, y que no se ni como buscarla en google para resolverla por mi mismo. Yo se que si estoy en la computadora A, y quiero arrancar algún programa gráfico en la computadora B, entonces puedo

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:33:49PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > But why does it [pulseaudio] stay modest until i go to > > > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity > > > and why does it stay busy after i left that page ? > > Henning Follmann

What do all those "* * *" mean on a traceroute log?

2023-04-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
I have found a few examples and "explanations" but in the cases of the examples I have seen by other people, like: https://serverfault.com/questions/733005/what-does-having-mean-in-the-command-traceroute-and-how-can-you-cope-wit It is not with every site and it is mostly with one hop. I my

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread John Hasler
zithro writes: > To not have to handle issues with security or availability of an own > mail server. I use pobox.com's paid service. Email is their business. I run Postfix locally using the Pobox server as a smarthost and use Fetchmail to download my mail every five minutes. Best of both

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:12 PM The Wanderer wrote: > > ... > Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that > look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a > feature; Gmail is the best-known example. That has problems when (as > with this

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 18:12, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:00:25PM +0200, zithro wrote: On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Hello Andrew, If

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

2023-04-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > But why does it [pulseaudio] stay modest until i go to > > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity > > and why does it stay busy after i left that page ? Henning Follmann wrote: > I am pretty sure this is just coincidence. I tried at least three times

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:00:25PM +0200, zithro wrote: > On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 + > > > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > > > > Hello Andrew, > > > > > > > If you are

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 11:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Hello Andrew, If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see a copy turn up in your mailing list

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 13:54, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see a copy turn up in your mailing list mails Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google. Now why would you want to do that? I have experience. Gmail

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Apr 2023 04:12, The Wanderer wrote: Some mail services apparently treat this "discard incoming messages that look like duplicates of ones you already have a copy of" behavior as a feature; Gmail is the best-known example. That has problems when (as with this mailing list) the incoming copy

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utiliséS dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread ajh-valmer
On Wednesday 12 April 2023 09:34:48 Alex PADOLY wrote: > Mes précédents messages montrent qu'à des fins de formation, je vais > mettre en œuvre une architecture clients /serveur avec Debian Edu. > La presse spécialisée indique que les disques durs SSD ont beaucoup de > qualité, je l'ai aussi

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Pierre Malard
Bonjour, Ce n’est pas seulement une question de fric. Effectivement les SSD sont beaucoup plus chers au Mo que les HDD mais étant potentiellement beaucoup plus rapides, une latence bien moindre et moins énergivores cela représente un atout majeur lors cela est important. D’ailleurs, la plupart

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread ajh-valmer
On Wednesday 12 April 2023 15:23:01 Gabriel Moreau wrote: > La commande fwupdmgr (si tu es en UEFI) met à jour les firmwares des > disques. En tout cas, j'ai vu passer des choses sur des disques NVME > pour des portables Dell. NVME est 2 à 7 fois plus rapide que des disques SSD SATA. Formidable

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 12 avril 2023 à 15:23 +0200, Gabriel Moreau a écrit : > Salut, > > La commande fwupdmgr (si tu es en UEFI) met à jour les firmwares des > disques. En tout cas, j'ai vu passer des choses sur des disques NVME > pour des portables Dell. ( on dérive encore plus dans le HS :-) ) Oui

Re: how to change default nameserver?

2023-04-12 Thread zithro
On 11 Apr 2023 22:28, gene heskett wrote: On 4/11/23 13:36, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: There are a bunch of cups manpages: there are lots of documents online. The people recommending you avahi/bonjour/zeroconf are recommending it because it works - for them and for 99.9% of people. And its both

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Gabriel Moreau
Salut, firmware sous Windows. Sur un serveur Linux, j'imagine que le seul moyen d'éviter les ennuis est de choisir un serveur chez un constructeur qui propose des options SSD dont il fournit des MAJ de firmwares sous Linux, ça doit restreindre assez sensiblement l'offre... La commande

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 06:49:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > David Wright wrote: > > > googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits. > > > > Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to > >

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
>> >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see >> >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails >> >> Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google. > > Now why would you want to do that? I have experience. Gmail eat one message if that is

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-04-12 at 07:44, Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit : > >> Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra >> GRUB-menu entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.? > > Of course he can change menuentry to point to another kernel/initram

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 avril 2023 The Wanderer a écrit : > Without anything more, wouldn't that just result in an extra GRUB-menu > entry pointing to the same copy of the kernel/etc.? Of course he can change menuentry to point to another kernel/initram > As I think I understand matters, the goal is to have a

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2023-04-11 at 22:30, Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : >> I believe the OP just wants an extra entry in his grub menu that >> will boot a redundant copy of his latest working kernel. (But that >> is only my understanding, which might be wrong. OP can speak for >>

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread davidson
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: I haven't tried booting yet with my "5.10.0-21-amd63-kg" initrd, though. I'll leave that to you, if you want to try. Boot went fine, but it is worth mentioning that grub-update *update-grub decided that the

Re: update-initramfs

2023-04-12 Thread davidson
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Marc Auslander wrote: On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

2023-04-12 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > David Wright wrote: > > googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits. > > Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity > and why does it stay busy

Re: ICMP router advertisement (ipv4)

2023-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Anssi Saari wrote: > If "public IPv4 address" is not understood by you it can also be > formulated as "the OP has an RFC1918 IPv4 address which is not routable > on the public internet and hence a 6to4 tunnel can't work for him." Oh, it's hidden behind CGNAT. No, that won't work. My mistake.

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël
didier gaumet a écrit : > Le mercredi 12 avril 2023 à 11:15 +0200, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : >> [...] >> le SSD faiblit graduellement (et la rumeur dit qu'il arrive de tomber >> en panne en totalité). >> >> Bizarrement et contrairement à mon intuition, les SSD me semblent >> tomber en panne

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

2023-04-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > googling pulseaudio cpu usage produces a lot of hits. Yes. But why does it stay modest until i go to https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity and why does it stay busy after i left that page ? I wrote: > > Next riddle is how i could keep

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread didier gaumet
Le mercredi 12 avril 2023 à 11:15 +0200, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit : > [...] > le SSD faiblit graduellement (et la rumeur dit qu'il arrive de tomber > en panne en totalité). > > Bizarrement et contrairement à mon intuition, les SSD me semblent > tomber en panne plus rapidement que les disques

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Firenze Réat a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Les disques SSD sont peu utilisés sur les serveurs, car d'une part leur > prix grimpe rapidement, plus que pour les disques HDD, si on cherche > dans les grandes capacités. > > D'autre part, leur fonctionnement électronique ne permet pas un stockage >

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 08:23:23AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > Hello Andrew, > > >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see > >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails > > Unless your email

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 4/12/23 10:43, Firenze Réat wrote: Bonjour à tous, Les disques SSD sont peu utilisés sur les serveurs, car d'une part leur prix grimpe rapidement, plus que pour les disques HDD, si on cherche dans les grandes capacités. D'autre part, leur fonctionnement électronique ne permet pas un

Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: Hello Andrew, >If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see >a copy turn up in your mailing list mails Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google. -- Regards _ "Valid

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Firenze Réat
Bonjour à tous, Les disques SSD sont peu utilisés sur les serveurs, car d'une part leur prix grimpe rapidement, plus que pour les disques HDD, si on cherche dans les grandes capacités. D'autre part, leur fonctionnement électronique ne permet pas un stockage fiable à moyen terme.

Re: HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Erwan David
Le 12/04/2023 à 09:34, Alex PADOLY a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Mes précédents messages montrent qu'à des fins de formation, je vais mettre en œuvre une architecture clients /serveur avec Debian Edu. La presse spécialisée indique que les disques durs SSD ont beaucoup de qualité, je l'ai aussi

HS: pourquoi les disques SSD sont peu utilisé dans les serveurs

2023-04-12 Thread Alex PADOLY
Bonjour à tous, Mes précédents messages montrent qu'à des fins de formation, je vais mettre en œuvre une architecture clients /serveur avec Debian Edu. La presse spécialisée indique que les disques durs SSD ont beaucoup de qualité, je l'ai aussi constaté par moi-même avec un chargement

Re: ICMP router advertisement (ipv4)

2023-04-12 Thread Anssi Saari
Dan Ritter writes: > Tunnelbroker.net can use a dynamic update feature so that the > static IPv6 address is only momentarily interrupted when the > underlying v4 address is changed out. This is quite reliable if > you hook it to the the DHCP client's post-up function. I don't understand the

Re: pregunta opcions arrencada kernel

2023-04-12 Thread Àlex
El 9/4/23 a les 10:57, Alex Muntada ha escrit: Hola, Alex: La pregunta és: sabeu alguns paràmetres d'arrencada per intentar arrencar aquests portàtils amb el nucli 6.1 de Debian 12, que no siguin tan molestos com "acpi=off" ? L'únic que se m'acut que podria estar relacionat és que fa poc es

Re: pregunta arrencada dual amb UEFI i GPT

2023-04-12 Thread Àlex
El 6/4/23 a les 10:45, a...@probeta.net ha escrit: He vist que a Ubuntu i Mint normalment funciona bé l'opció Windows del GRUB. Llavors he comparat els fitxers que Ubuntu 22.04 genera a /etc/grub.d amb els de Debian 12, i jo no he sabut interpretar diferencies remarcables. Bones, jo