Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 06:38:55 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 10:52:33PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 08:37:46 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600,

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

On Thu 21 Dec 2023 at 21:38:46 (+), Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 06:01, David Wright wrote: > > > > I can't see anywhere where the OP claims to have set up LFS for > > booting itself, as opposed to being booted from a Debian Grub. > > It only sa

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 08:37:46 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:00:29AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > Yes, I'm guessing that the OP is in my timezone, as just a few of > > their previous posts have -5/-6 offsets. But most are +0,

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Wed 20 Dec 2023 at 07:43:51 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/20/23, David Wright wrote: > > To be fair to the OP, there was no official "script", but just some code: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00894.html > > which I pasted int

Re: GRUB -- Debian overrides? Or maybe I just don't understand it well...

On Tue 19 Dec 2023 at 21:40:19 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > Mark Fletcher composed on 2023-12-20 00:28 (UTC): > > > I am curious to know from Debian > > GRUBbers (as it were) if the behaviour I am describing in this thread > > is expected... > > I suspect few if any regulars here spend much

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Mon 18 Dec 2023 at 14:12:12 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 12:35:29PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > OK, I tried running it (attached). What should it show? > > That the OP is confused about many things. > > > # date --help > > No sheb

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Mon 18 Dec 2023 at 06:02:48 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/18/23, David Wright wrote: > > Another problem in what you posted is that you sometimes run date > > in your local timezone (generally for the "now" times), but you > > append +00:00 as the ti

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Mon 18 Dec 2023 at 01:11:26 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/18/23, David Wright wrote: > > When you write dt00=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) > > that's /your/ format, not coreutils'. > > I (erroneously?) thought coreutils was maintaining Linux date, so if > they

Re: Why is /var/lib/apt/lists not in /var/cache?

On Sun 17 Dec 2023 at 15:33:30 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> That seems similar to things like `locate` failing if you remove > >> `/var/log/plocate/plocate.db` (until that DB is rebuilt). > > > > It's tricky to discern your point as /var/log/ is not involved. > > That was a typo. it's

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Sun 17 Dec 2023 at 23:00:37 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/17/23, Andy Smith wrote: > > All this paranoia, but in computer time you trust?  > > Falsehoods programmers believe about time > > https://gist.github.com/timvisee/fcda9bbdff88d45cc9061606b4b923ca > > and how does

Re: Why is /var/lib/apt/lists not in /var/cache?

On Sun 17 Dec 2023 at 01:06:28 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Some packages will stay the same for years, but in the past week > > I can see four occasions when changes in list contents have occurred > > on oldstable. So there's little similarity. > > The question is not really whether

Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...

On Sun 17 Dec 2023 at 15:28:58 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/17/23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:12:11AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> dt00=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) > Actually, my basic idea is if you can encode a date using formatting > options this

Re: Local time in databases

On Wed 13 Dec 2023 at 00:03:57 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 08/12/2023 11:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:18:44PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > > > All of these considerations are what brought Oracle to create a > > > proprietary > > > "datetime" datatype

Re: dhcpd.conf Q?

On Sat 16 Dec 2023 at 14:21:48 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 12/16/23 14:17, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > gene heskett wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > I use nano a lot, but it could use a larger font for these ancient > > > eyeballs. > > > > nano runs in a terminal so it doesn't

Re: Debian 12.4.0

On Thu 14 Dec 2023 at 21:07:25 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 12/14/23, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:01:19 -0500 David Sawyer wrote: > > > >> This may seem to be a simple problem. I set up Debian with a password > >> that I wrote down to be sure. > > > > Password for

Re: Why is /var/lib/apt/lists not in /var/cache?

On Sat 16 Dec 2023 at 12:50:51 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > David Wright [2023-12-16 11:30:01] wrote: > > On Sat 16 Dec 2023 at 10:59:48 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> AFAICT, all of `/var/lib/apt/lists` is made of files fetched from > >> repositories, which A

Re: Why is /var/lib/apt/lists not in /var/cache?

On Sat 16 Dec 2023 at 10:59:48 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > AFAICT, all of `/var/lib/apt/lists` is made of files fetched from > repositories, which APT will re-fetch if missing. > So, it sounds to me like it belongs in `/var/cache/apt/lists`, really. > What am I missing? Or is it just a

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

On Fri 15 Dec 2023 at 08:58:10 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 02:30:21PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > > > readarray -d '' fndar < <( > > > find "$sdir" ... -printf 'stuff\0' | > > > sort -z --otherflags > > > ) >

Re: The bug (was: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?)

On Tue 12 Dec 2023 at 23:05:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Well, the machine in question has a wi-fi but I don't plan on using it. > > Though unless I'm misunderstanding, just having a wi-fi (used or not) is > > enough to trigger the bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > > "the bug"? >

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Mon 11 Dec 2023 at 10:03:38 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/11/23 09:52, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 15:51:02 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > > > > On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:05 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 16:29:12 (-0500), Paul M

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Mon 11 Dec 2023 at 10:07:28 (+1100), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Second, how do I fix this so that mutt uses feh to display images? > > Here is my mailcap entry, which works for me - had to deal with > annoying filename munging by mutt, and getting the "close the viewer" > bit working - this is

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 15:51:02 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:05 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 16:29:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > >>> On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > >>> On Fri 08

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 13:39:50 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 14:17:36 -0600 > David Wright wrote: > > > Why is the service loaded, enabled and enabled then? Don't you need > > to disable or mask it? Presumably it sits there, dead, all day >

Re: Unattended Upgrades Ran Anyway.

On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 11:00:37 (-0700), Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 16:11:44 + > Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > > > On 10 Dec 2023 08:49 -0700, from charlescur...@charlescurley.com > > (Charles Curley): [...] > > > > Exactly how did you "shut down"

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Sun 10 Dec 2023 at 19:48:29 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 01:28:20PM -0500, songbird wrote: > > wrote: > > ... > > > That's why I cringe when people name executables "foo.sh". What do you > > > do when you decide to rewrite the thing in C (or Rust, or whatever)? >

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 16:29:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > > > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an

Re: zfs load-key on boot randomly reports wrong password if I type too fast

On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 21:22:23 (+0100), cen wrote: > > I have an encrypted ZFS volume which I unlock at boot time using this > systemd service: > > [Unit] > DefaultDependencies=no > After=zfs-import.target > Before=zfs-mount.service > > [Service] > Type=oneshot > RemainAfterExit=yes >

Re: user perms

On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 19:03:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> > > I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >> > permissions wall. > > SHOW. US. > > I got tired of

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 22:07:44 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:38:43AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > - IANA TZ DB does not support timezones disappeared before 1970. > > > > Ohhh, *this* is the kind of reference

Re: Image handling in mutt

On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to > view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've set > the mailcap_path variable in my neomutt config to point to ~/.mailcap,

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 09:37:29 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/7/23 09:22, John Hasler wrote: > > Greg writes: > > > You'd think that you can determine the length of the test by > > > subtracting the start time from the end time, right? > > That would have worked had the times been stored as UTC

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 22:40:23 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > What I had been doing is use "depends" to get all dependencies I did that. > and > then download each of them. I did that too. Not all of them, of course, as I don't need or want all those packages. > I think that is why I was

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 23:08:41 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > On 12/2/23, Tom Furie wrote: > >> 'apt depends ' would list the direct dependencies without > >> recursion. > > $ apt depends wget 2>&1 | grep " Depends: " | awk '{ print $2}' > > that

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 20:44:29 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/6/23 19:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:37:32PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > On 12/6/23 19:26, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 07:23:18PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > > > On 12/6/23 19:12, Greg

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 16:21:37 (-0500), James Cloos wrote: > the current America/New_York equiv is: > > EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00:00,M11.1.0/2:00:00 That's as may be, but this discussion revolves around: "The M format is sufficient to describe many common daylight-savings transition laws. But

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 18:16:42 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/6/23 15:28, David Wright wrote: > > Likely none for times present and future, unless Eric Adams should > > pass a timezone bill. (In the 2010s, several U.S. states considered > > legislation to move from

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 13:27:40 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 01:02:45PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > TZ=POSIX;date > > Wed Dec 6 18:00:38 POSIX 2023 > > "POSIX" is not a valid timezone name in Debian 12. Therefore you're > just seeing UTC here. Giving an invalid TZ always

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 12:06:04 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > From the README > > The information in the time zone data files is by no means authoritative; > fixes and enhancements are welcome.  Please see the file CONTRIBUTING > for details Time zones are a civil and legal matter, so

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Tue 05 Dec 2023 at 23:37:31 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/12/2023 05:14, Pocket wrote: > > For gene.. > [...] > > zone=EST5EDT > > zoneinfo=/usr/share/zoneinfo > > localtime=/etc/localtime > > timezone=/etc/timezone > >

Re: Mailing List

On Sun 03 Dec 2023 at 10:01:25 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > I'm subscribed, but I don't receive that badge of honour. > > This is from my other post in this thread—no LDOSUBSCRIBER: > > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 req

Re: Mailing List

On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 20:39:51 (+), piorunz wrote: > On 01/12/2023 16:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Your message is here, so you are subscribed :) > > > > Not necessarily, you can post here as a non-subscriber. Actually I have > > the hunch that the OP is not subscribed (going by the

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Mon 04 Dec 2023 at 16:24:11 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 12/4/23 11:31, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Dec 04, 2023, gene heskett wrote: > > > [...] > > > So here on coyote: date -u: > > > Mon Dec 4 15:47:44 UTC 2023 > > > but on mkspi: date -u: > > > Mon 04 Dec 2023 03:47:16 PM UTC > > >

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Mon 04 Dec 2023 at 15:28:03 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 12/4/23 07:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > ls -hal /etc/localtime > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Nov  1 18:21 /etc/localtime -> > > > /usr/share/zoneinfo/EST5EDT > > And using mc to edit that link fixed it, I am now getting the

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

On Mon 04 Dec 2023 at 21:24:58 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/2/23, David Wright wrote: > > Obviously I'm trying to replicate what you do. > ... > > Presumably you're running more commands than you revealed above? > > Yes, I am; for each " Depends: "

Re: ntpsec as server questions

On Mon 04 Dec 2023 at 15:36:32 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > I classify time zone names into three historic eras. In the oldest era, > you have zone names like EST5EDT which are composed of three pieces. > The first piece, EST, is the zone's name when the clock is "normal" (not > daylight

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 13:48:34 (+), Darac Marjal wrote: > On 02/12/2023 04:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 10:01:54PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > apt install ./myfi

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 07:06:37 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > > install. I need to download those packages. > > These should be a straightforward way to do

Re: Mailing List

On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 17:24:53 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Anyone one else having trouble with the mailing list? > > I got your message via the list. > > > Have received any messages since Nov 30 > > Normal traffic yesterday and today, i'd say. > > > I can not tell if I am still

Re: packages listed vs. apt-rdepends --follow=Depends ...

On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 21:55:42 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 02:52:25AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > direct dependencies of packages which haven't been downloaded, > > install. I need to download those packages. > > These should be a straightforward way to do that

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

On Sat 02 Dec 2023 at 02:10:48 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 11/30/23, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 21:05:38 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> I also notice repeated copies of {src-, pkgcache}.bin files for each > >> downloaded package e

Re: Mailing List

On Fri 01 Dec 2023 at 16:32:44 (+), Joe wrote: > On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:12:56 +0100 > Marco Moock wrote: > > Am 01.12.2023 um 15:55:41 Uhr schrieb Joe: > > > > > I received a message timed 22:52 on 28th, the last that day, the > > > next three were on 29th at > > > 08:39 > > > 13:14 > > >

Re: time question, as in ntp?

On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 22:30:12 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 11/30/23 22:07, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > let me clarify: This buster machine acting like a 3d printer does NOT > > > have dhcpcd installed. No trace of it in /etc Only dhcp. > > > > I'm sure it's running dhclient.

Re: used vs. unused packages installed

On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 16:06:06 (-0600), Mike McClain wrote: > Is there any way to determine which packages are used of the many > that come with an install? I don't know of one. > My Raspberry Pi install of bookworm has some 1800 packages > installed many of which I know I don't use,

Re: Could/should you set Dir::Cache::{pkgcache, srcpkgcache} = ""; if all you are doing is locally downloading dependencies of an installation package?

On Thu 30 Nov 2023 at 21:05:38 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > I also notice repeated copies of {src-, pkgcache}.bin files for each > downloaded package even though I am downloading them to specific > subdirectories in order to then install them using dpkg. > Do you really need those binaries

Re: quick alpine config question?

On Sat 25 Nov 2023 at 13:35:05 (-0500), Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > floating back on screen with the latest and a question. > My knight of mailbox creation has done a fine job so far. > The issue is, I am being asked to provide my password for every task, > even after doing so and logging

Re: RTL8852 driver for Debian 11

On Sat 25 Nov 2023 at 12:21:28 (+), Richard Smith wrote: > Testing access to the message. > > I find the issue with Debian weird, as I was able to use this same computer > (Lenovo IdeaPad I7, with a Realtek b52 controller) with Ubuntu, Kali, and > Tails, without an issue! In ubuntu, cat

Re: quick alpine config question?

On Sat 25 Nov 2023 at 11:46:39 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > OK. This is weird! Something is joining those two lines. Your post's headers contained the following line: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII ↑ A fix is to diff >

Re: Hi, I'm using Neptune os. I'm new to Debian. I got it it successfully installsd, how do I setup network?

On Fri 24 Nov 2023 at 23:52:29 (+), Chris Goody wrote: > Neptune is based on Debian, I cant also activate my wired connection via USB > tethering. It says actives. But not fully on. My notes say the following: Connect phone with USB cable. Pull down notifications: Tap USB, Tap again for

Re: CVE (Critical + High) in bookworm image

On Wed 22 Nov 2023 at 15:27:06 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 01:34:49PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > AFAICT zipOpenNewFileInZip4_64 is only contained in > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libminizip.so.1.0.0 which is from package > > libmi

Re: CVE (Critical + High) in bookworm image

On Wed 22 Nov 2023 at 12:52:17 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:39:56PM +0530, thomas wrote: > > is there any way we could get > > a fix in bookworm release or is there any other suggestion. > > Whenever the security team releases a fix. > > > CVE-2023-45853 > >

Re: Systemd timer and sleeping laptop

On Mon 20 Nov 2023 at 08:24:11 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: [ … ] > inspired an "apt-cache search wake from" search for some reason. > > That highly generic query only received 10 results for Trixie. Maybe > there's still something in there that's useful. Two of those results, > etherwake and

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 08:58:41 (-0800), Peter Ehlert wrote: > thread back from the dead: > first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions > > I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. > Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will suffice. > > My longtime

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Mon 20 Nov 2023 at 11:12:03 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 23:43:34 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > The "6.1.0-&qu

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:24:25 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 00:20:25 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Thu 16 Nov 202

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 23:33:59 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-18 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > The "6.1.0-" part comes from the upstream release series. All the > > kernel images containing "6.1.0-" in this section should come from the > > same upstream series (6.1.x),

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 15:29:51 (+0100), steve wrote: > Le 18-11-2023, à 09:18:56 -0500, Greg Wooledge a écrit : > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 12:24:30AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > > > > At time of writing, that

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

On Sun 19 Nov 2023 at 04:29:57 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: > > > If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server > > using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may > > help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 14:07:54 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 14:04 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Fri 17 Nov 2023 at 13:30:32 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-16 14:04:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > In any case, if a package is renamed (which particularly applies to > > > u

Re: unexplained crash

On Sat 18 Nov 2023 at 07:06:49 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 07:17:08PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: > > Yesterday SSH on my desktop PC running Ubuntu 20.04 became unresponsive. > > > > The machine was responding to ping and "telnet 22" was briefly connecting > >

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Thu 16 Nov 2023 at 13:02:28 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-15 13:54:51 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:1

Re: Why is bullseye-backports recommended on bookworm?

On Wed 15 Nov 2023 at 20:01:20 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-15 18:06:45 +, Tixy wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 18:15 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-15 16:39:15 -, Curt wrote: > > > > On 2023-11-14, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The base

Re: UUID permanent at removable device?

On Sun 12 Nov 2023 at 18:27:20 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 07:03:41PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > I want to dd it automatically like > > > > dd if=/path/to/my/image.iso of=UUID=34567890-afde-.-1234 > > If your use case is writing an ISO file directly to a USB device (no

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

On Fri 10 Nov 2023 at 15:32:53 (+), fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>> No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm

Re: All the unicorns are dead on Linux

On Tue 07 Nov 2023 at 17:03:14 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote: > John Hasler (12023-11-07): > > Try to edit one. > > Try to edit /dev/zero. $ nano /dev/zero [ "/dev/zero" is a device file ] in white on a red background. I'm not sure what that's meant to demonstrate. Cheers, David.

Re: bookworm which repo?

On Sat 04 Nov 2023 at 13:50:34 (+0100), Hans wrote: > A fresh install is showing an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for > > 1. bookworm > 2. bookworm-security > and > 3. bookworm-updates > > The last one is somehow confusing me, either I missed somethin in the > documentation or soemthing

Re: apt update does not work

On Thu 02 Nov 2023 at 12:09:55 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:56:59PM +0100, Martin wrote: > > I have installed old distribution > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > > 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free > >

Re: How to install Sid with non-free firmware for wifi?

On Wed 01 Nov 2023 at 14:42:17 (+0100), Martin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 02:09:57PM +0100, Marco M. wrote: > > Am 01.11.2023 um 13:59:51 Uhr schrieb Martin: > > > > Do you have USB NICs? > > Does your computer has an Ethernet NIC (wired)? > > > > Then use them for installing the packages.

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

On Fri 27 Oct 2023 at 11:13:59 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > You saw my hosts entry in the last post, but again > 192.168.71.3coyote.home.arpacoyote > but after a reboot, domainname returns none, and the /etc/domainname > file has been deleted. As in not visible to an ls of /etc.

Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

On Sat 28 Oct 2023 at 06:29:19 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 02:46:55PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> > https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables > > >> It needs some TLC: > > >> [quote] > > >> 1. At the end of booting, the mother of all processes -- init

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

On Fri 27 Oct 2023 at 07:12:48 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 10/27/23 00:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > I would have thought that techies understand its origins, and > > > non-techies are fairly unlikely ever to encounter it. > > > > That's the thing: if you use `home.arpa` for your home

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On Thu 26 Oct 2023 at 07:58:45 (+0800), jeremy ardley wrote: > On 26/10/23 07:24, David Wright wrote: > > > Or if you already have a domain, you can use a subdomain. eg. I have > > > rail.eu.org, and at home it is depot.rail.eu.org > > I'm not sure how that woul

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

On Wed 25 Oct 2023 at 22:42:07 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> It's just such a shame that they chose a name which refers to "arpa" > >> in it, which is not only US-centric but even belongs to the US's war > >> department, which I find rather unpalatable. > >> I understand ARPA was closely

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

On Wed 25 Oct 2023 at 07:28:44 (-0600), Charles Curley wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 09:57:19 +0300 > Itay wrote: > > > Perhaps I will grab the chance to separate private stuff from work > > stuff :-) > > Indeed! I don't know where you are located, but I will tell you that in > parts of the US

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On Wed 25 Oct 2023 at 08:33:25 (+0200), Erwan David wrote: > Le 25/10/2023 à 03:47, David Wright a écrit : > > On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 12:06:05 (+0200), Christian Groessler wrote: > > > On 10/23/23 07:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:24 AM

Re: How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

On Wed 25 Oct 2023 at 11:04:59 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > Martin writes: > > With wifi antena I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my > > computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antena booster > > (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) > > to get usable

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 12:06:05 (+0200), Christian Groessler wrote: > On 10/23/23 07:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:24 AM ghe2001 wrote: > > > > > > How about a /29 or so, named "here.", hosts named 2 or 3 > > > letter abbreviations of what you call the computers, with

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Tue 24 Oct 2023 at 13:21:04 (-0400), Pocket wrote: > On 10/24/23 12:48, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: > > > My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. > > > > > > NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the > > > 169 block if

Re: udev creates wrong symlink from rule after upgrade to bookworm

On Sun 22 Oct 2023 at 10:17:35 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Appears that the failure reported by Karl Schmidt occurred when two > devices matched the rule. > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1040445 > > Similar erroneous result here with only one matching device. Details

Re: Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris adjust brightness, get Fn-Keys working

On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 20:03:50 (+0200), basti wrote: > I have a Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris and try to adjust brightness > via Fn-Keys. > All other Fn-Keys are working. > > basti@thinkpad:~$ xbacklight -set 50 > No outputs have backlight property > > I also try to create a xorg.conf: > >

Re: how to force mounting an entry in fstab on boot?

On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 17:28:54 (+0200), hw wrote: > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 10:30 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 04:17:11PM +0200, hw wrote: > > > I have an entry in the fstab to mount an NFS share via IPv6. For > > > unknown reasons, the entry is being ignored on boot, so

Re: Default DNS lookup command?

On Sun 22 Oct 2023 at 11:07:05 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/10/2023 22:58, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 21 Oct 2023 at 17:35:21 (+0200), Reiner Buehl wrote: > > > is there a DNS lookup command that is installed by default on any > > > Debian Bullseye or Bookworm

Re: Default DNS lookup command?

On Sat 21 Oct 2023 at 17:35:21 (+0200), Reiner Buehl wrote: > is there a DNS lookup command that is installed by default on any > Debian Bullseye or Bookworm install? Something that doesn't require as > much dependencies as bind9-utils (which provides dig and nslookup) or > bind9-host? nslookup

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

On Fri 20 Oct 2023 at 11:51:35 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 20-10-2023 om 05:10 schreef David Wright: > > On Thu 19 Oct 2023 at 13:30:53 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > > > I don't intend to send mail from this machine myself, I want mail from > > > the syste

Re: zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg

On Fri 20 Oct 2023 at 10:45:24 (-0300), Marcio B. wrote: > Thank you very much. > > How could I check the impact if I choose to remove this package? $ apt-get -s purge zlib1g Actually doing this will detroy your system. My (bullseye) system has 2057 packages installed. Purging zlib1g removes

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

On Thu 19 Oct 2023 at 13:30:53 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 18-10-2023 om 18:30 schreef David Wright: > > On Tue 17 Oct 2023 at 19:41:43 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > > > gklein@parvos:~$ cat /etc/passwd | grep gklein > > > gklein:x:1000:1000:Gertjan Klei

Re: Acer Monitors

On Wed 18 Oct 2023 at 11:38:14 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 10/18/23 11:22, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > On 10/18/23 5:09 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > . . . > > > I'd be interested in hearing any comments from users of Acer products. T232HF 23" touchscreen, no problems in 9⅓ years.

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

On Tue 17 Oct 2023 at 19:41:43 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 17-10-2023 om 19:10 schreef Geert Stappers: > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 05:43:55PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: > > > I am configuring a new VPS, and decided to try nullmailer to send mail. > > > I don't want to receive mail on the

Re: procps with sysvinit: libsystemd0 vs libelogind0

On Mon 16 Oct 2023 at 16:05:48 (-0700), Bill Brelsford wrote: > The latest version of procps (2:4.0.4-2) depends on libsystemd0, so > upgrading 2:4.0.3-1 to it causes libsystemd0 to be installed. But > on my sysvinit system it conflicts with libelogind0: > > libelogind0 : Conflicts:

Re: wpa_supplicant config for ap with no ssid

On Sat 14 Oct 2023 at 22:27:07 (+), fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how do i configure wpa_supplicant for a ap that does not advertise ssid > i normally use > > network={ > ssid="ap" > psk="passphrase" > id_str="ap" > } You need to add: scan_ssid=1 for hidden SSIDs.

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