On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:06:11 -0400
Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Marty"
> > >
> > > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > > increasing risk to objectivity and tec
On 10/16/2014 11:30 PM, Marty wrote:
On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can
do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around
a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal and
On 17/10/14 23:06, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Marty"
>>>
>>> It seems like free software employment and market share come
>>> with increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's
>>> my
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Marty"
> >
> > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> > concern as a Debian user, as I consider
On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can
do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around
a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal and
now they are worth billions, by start
On 10/15/2014 08:02 PM, Marty wrote:
On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
This is fortuitous!
Not a bad gig
at all. I'm sure some soreheads think that we debated WORLD DOMINATION
during lunch, or how to screw over Debian, but sadly we mostly discussed
what was the "Right Thing"
Do yo
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:08:47 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > From: "Marty"
> >
> > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> > concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
> >
> > I hope tha
Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Marty"
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members consider an amendm
- Original Message -
> From: "Marty"
>
> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
>
> I hope that Debian members consider an amendment to
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:00 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/10/16 5:46 "Ric Moore" :
> >
> > On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> >> We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
> >> Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
> >> Wonderful L
On 16/10/14 00:14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
>> On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wro
On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/15/2014 07:08 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12
On 10/15/2014 05:06 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/10/16 5:46 "Ric Moore" mailto:wayward4...@gmail.com>>:
>
> On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
>> Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
>>
On Wednesday 15 October 2014 22:44:18 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 15 oct 14, 21:37:57, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > As far as I'm aware Debian has *never* been sold anywhere, nor are
> > there plans to - did I miss another meeting down the docks?
>
> http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
>
> No, that's
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 21:37:57, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> As far as I'm aware Debian has *never* been sold anywhere, nor are
> there plans to - did I miss another meeting down the docks?
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
No, that's not meant as a joke. As far as I understand, this is about
the only w
2014/10/16 5:46 "Ric Moore" :
>
> On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
>> Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
>> Wonderful Linux company Corel changed their CEO, and promptly accepted
>> money
On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
Wonderful Linux company Corel changed their CEO, and promptly accepted
money from Microsoft and dropped all their Windows
On 10/15/2014 07:08 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>Check ou
On 14 October 2014 17:10, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
>> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
>> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
>
> People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
> pays them.
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 12:53:52 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:37:37 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
> > 2014/10/15 1:47 "Brian" :
> > >
>
> > > Give me swearing in posts rather than innuendo and attempted
> > > character assassination of a group dedicated workers.
> >
> > Do you
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:37:37 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/10/15 1:47 "Brian" :
> >
> > Give me swearing in posts rather than innuendo and attempted
> > character assassination of a group dedicated workers.
>
> Do you realize that a lot of your posts, jumping on anti-systemd
> topics, might app
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:11:10 +0100
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
> > surprise.
>
> Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe
> betide any compa
Ahoj,
Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:09:53 +0100 Brian
napísal:
> On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
> wrote:
>
> > Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
> > >On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >>Check out what single company has
2014/10/15 1:47 "Brian" :
>
> On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
> > > Henning Follmann wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
Steve Litt writes:
> Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
> surprise.
Better Red Hat than just about anybody else.
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Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12
Comments inline below:
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 06:37:57 Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
> >> On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Le 15.10.2014 09:
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
>> On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>>> >On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrot
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>>Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers.
Surprise,
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
> >On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >>Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
> >>surprise.
> >
> >Damned for their
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 10:41:12, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> Maybe you want.
> But I think that most users just want it to work fine and efficiently, which
> does not necessarily imply being sold massively around the world.
>
> The fact is, that linux is actually a success, but it has nev
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe
betide any
company that actually gets
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
> surprise.
Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide any
company that actually gets us there...
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:35:54 -0400
Marty wrote:
>
> http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/whos-writing-linux
>
> Say hello to our new bosses?
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
SteveT
Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.co
On 10/14/2014 12:47 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
> Henning Follmann wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> > > It se
On 10/14/2014 12:10 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
pays them.
It's my ma
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
> > Henning Follmann wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> > > > It seems like free software empl
On 14/10/14 16:05, Scott Ferguson wrote:
And how should we interpret that in light of your signature and constant
plugging of your business on the list?
Perhaps Joey Hess's signature holds the answer?
I presume you mean Joel Rees (yes, I get their names mixed up
occasionally too), since Joey H
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
pays them.
> It's my main concern as a Debian user, as I consider r
On 15/10/14 02:02, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
> Henning Follmann wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
>>> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
>>> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my m
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
> Henning Follmann wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> > > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > > increasing risk to objectivity and
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> > concern as a Debian use
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> > concern as a Debian user, as I consi
Marty,
I think I see why you suggest this: as a corporate user of Debian, I
think you would like to see Debian orientations more
enterprise-friendly, for example by loosening external software license
policy or upgrade frequency. Being myself such a user, I understand that
the stability and open-s
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
>
> I hope that Debian members consider an amendm
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members consider an amendment to restrict voting
rights for members who have a financia
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