On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I
On 17/10/14 23:06, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come
with increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's
On 10/16/2014 11:30 PM, Marty wrote:
On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can
do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around
a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 08:06:11 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:08:47PM -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
- Original Message -
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members consider an
Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:08:47 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
From: Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I
On 10/15/2014 08:02 PM, Marty wrote:
On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
This is fortuitous!
Not a bad gig
at all. I'm sure some soreheads think that we debated WORLD DOMINATION
during lunch, or how to screw over Debian, but sadly we mostly discussed
what was the Right Thingtm
Do
On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can
do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around
a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal and
now they are worth billions, by
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide any
company that actually gets us there...
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Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe
betide any
company that actually gets
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 10:41:12, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Maybe you want.
But I think that most users just want it to work fine and efficiently, which
does not necessarily imply being sold massively around the world.
The fact is, that linux is actually a success, but it has never
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Damned for their success. We
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers.
Surprise,
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out
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On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 06:37:57 Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan
Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at
Steve Litt writes:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Better Red Hat than just about anybody else.
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2014/10/15 1:47 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk:
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at
Ahoj,
Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 11:09:53 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
napísal:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 08:11:10 +0100
Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe
betide
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:37:37 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
2014/10/15 1:47 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk:
Give me swearing in posts rather than innuendo and attempted
character assassination of a group dedicated workers.
Do you realize that a lot of your posts, jumping on
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 12:53:52 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 23:37:37 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
2014/10/15 1:47 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk:
Give me swearing in posts rather than innuendo and attempted
character assassination of a group dedicated
On 14 October 2014 17:10, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
On 10/15/2014 07:08 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Check out
On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
Wonderful Linux company Corel changed their CEO, and promptly accepted
money from Microsoft and dropped all their
2014/10/16 5:46 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com:
On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I mean).
Wonderful Linux company Corel changed their CEO, and promptly
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 21:37:57, Scott Ferguson wrote:
As far as I'm aware Debian has *never* been sold anywhere, nor are
there plans to - did I miss another meeting down the docks?
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
No, that's not meant as a joke. As far as I understand, this is about
the only
On Wednesday 15 October 2014 22:44:18 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 21:37:57, Scott Ferguson wrote:
As far as I'm aware Debian has *never* been sold anywhere, nor are
there plans to - did I miss another meeting down the docks?
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
No, that's not
On 10/15/2014 05:06 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
2014/10/16 5:46 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com
mailto:wayward4...@gmail.com:
On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what I
On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/15/2014 07:08 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at
On 16/10/14 00:14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit :
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 15.10.2014
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:06:00 +0900
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
2014/10/16 5:46 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com:
On 10/15/2014 12:39 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
We've actually been in this place before. Wonderful Linux company
Caldera became SCO (oversimplification, but you know what
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members consider an amendment
Marty,
I think I see why you suggest this: as a corporate user of Debian, I
think you would like to see Debian orientations more
enterprise-friendly, for example by loosening external software license
policy or upgrade frequency. Being myself such a user, I understand that
the stability and
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a
On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to
On 15/10/14 02:02, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
pays them.
It's my main concern as a Debian user, as I consider
On 14/10/14 16:05, Scott Ferguson wrote:
And how should we interpret that in light of your signature and constant
plugging of your business on the list?
Perhaps Joey Hess's signature holds the answer?
I presume you mean Joel Rees (yes, I get their names mixed up
occasionally too), since Joey
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400, Marty wrote:
It seems like free
On 10/14/2014 12:10 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Marty wrote:
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality.
People have to eat. Almost everyone who works on Debian has someone who
pays them.
It's my
On 10/14/2014 12:47 PM, Brian wrote:
On Tue 14 Oct 2014 at 12:06:11 -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:02:10AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 08:05:06 -0400
Henning Follmann hfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 07:56:40AM -0400,
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:35:54 -0400
Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/whos-writing-linux
Say hello to our new bosses?
Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,
surprise.
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