Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 02-09-2024 at 18:03 Nicolas George wrote: > Dan Ritter (12024-09-01): > > It is unlikely that X will be actually abandoned until all of > > these problems with Wayland are solved. > > oneko and xeyes do not work properly with Wayland, that is definitely a > deal breaker. Thanks for

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread Erwan David
wayland support is still incomplete, and X11 support won't disappear soon -- Erwan David

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-02 Thread Nicolas George
Dan Ritter (12024-09-01): > It is unlikely that X will be actually abandoned until all of > these problems with Wayland are solved. oneko and xeyes do not work properly with Wayland, that is definitely a deal breaker. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-01 Thread George at Clug
Dan, Thank you for your reply. George On Monday, 02-09-2024 at 11:15 Dan Ritter wrote: > George at Clug wrote: > > When installing KDE for people, I have been leaving Wayland as the > > compositor, believing that X11 was no longer supported. However > > recently I tes

Re: KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-01 Thread Dan Ritter
George at Clug wrote: > When installing KDE for people, I have been leaving Wayland as the > compositor, believing that X11 was no longer supported. However > recently I tested X11 and found the experience was much better. This is not unusual. Wayland is young and immature. Wayland ha

KDE - Wayland vs X11

2024-09-01 Thread George at Clug
nice mature programs. For example Kdenlive, KPatience. When installing KDE for people, I have been leaving Wayland as the compositor, believing that X11 was no longer supported. However recently I tested X11 and found the experience was much better. For example: 1) In Virt-Manager in X11

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:10:17AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] > This is what I've done for my old laptop, but the dropbear package > is *not* needed for that! You just need the dropbear-initramfs > package [...] Aha -- now I know the full story. Thanks, Vincent (and all the other smart

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-13 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-10 15:32:53 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>> No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgrades. I've

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 01:01:28PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Wait a minute: dropbear is supposed to run in the initramfs, while > > sshd will be active afterwards, after pivot-root and all that, right? > > > > Then I don't quite get why they should collide at

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread Dan Ritter
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 03:32:53PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > > >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >>> No, this is not

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 03:32:53PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>> No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgr

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Nov 2023 at 15:32:53 (+), fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >>> No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgrad

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread fxkl47BF
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: >> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgrades. I've never >>> heard of it happening to anyone before. >> >> i disagree. i h

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-10 10:57:21 +0100, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgrades. I've never > > heard of it happening to anyone before. > > i disagree. i had the same problem b/c i also had dropbear insta

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-10 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 9 November 2023 19:08:25 CET, Greg Wooledge wrote: No, this is not a normal phenomenon for bookworm upgrades. I've never heard of it happening to anyone before. i disagree. i had the same problem b/c i also had dropbear installed. for some reason the dropbear daemon is started f

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
lseye to bookworm with no problems > >>> when i try ssh with -X/-Y to the bookworm machine x11 forwarding fails > >>> > >>> debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. > >>> debug1: Sending environment. > >>> debug1: S

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:43 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:01:29PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >>> i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems >>> when i try ssh with

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 04:59:32PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> now it makes a bit more sense >> sshd isn't running >> for some reason the upgrade switched to dropbear >> is this a new thing for bookworm >> is there a reason i shouldn't disabl

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:43 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:01:29PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems > > when i try ssh with -X/-Y to the bookworm machine x11 forwarding fails > > &g

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 04:59:32PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > now it makes a bit more sense > sshd isn't running > for some reason the upgrade switched to dropbear > is this a new thing for bookworm > is there a reason i shouldn't disable dropbear and use sshd No, this is not a normal

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:01:29PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >>> i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems >>> when i try ssh with -X/

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread fxkl47BF
On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:01:29PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems >> when i try ssh with -X/-Y to the bookworm machine x11 forwarding fails >> >> debug1: Req

Re: upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:01:29PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems > when i try ssh with -X/-Y to the bookworm machine x11 forwarding fails > > debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. >

upgrade to bookworm broke ssh x11 forwarding

2023-11-09 Thread fxkl47BF
i upgraded from bullseye to bookworm with no problems when i try ssh with -X/-Y to the bookworm machine x11 forwarding fails debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. debug1: Sending environment. debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8 debug1: Sending env LC_ALL = en_US.UTF-8

Re: Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY

2023-06-22 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 02:11:03PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > Hi. > > With every back up, being whether its a restic backup hourly to another hard > drive on this machine, or an rsync backup to my synology server, this error > message

Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY

2023-06-22 Thread Sharon Kimble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi. With every back up, being whether its a restic backup hourly to another hard drive on this machine, or an rsync backup to my synology server, this error message continues to happen/occur. This has only started to occur since I've upgraded t

Re: [Debian 12 Issue] Black Screen after starting X11. Cant log in into Graphical Environments. Either DEs or WMs. AMD Radeon GPU problems

2023-06-18 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 18 juin 2023 Paul Gerdes a écrit : > i get these messages: > "grep: /var/log/Xorg.*: No such file or directory" > "grep: /var/log/Xorg: No such file or directory" > > looks like there is no log file for X11 Did you also try to start X with startx from

Re: [Debian 12 Issue] Black Screen after starting X11. Cant log in into Graphical Environments. Either DEs or WMs. AMD Radeon GPU problems

2023-06-17 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-06-17, Paul Gerdes wrote: > Hi i have a problem with Debian 12 after Installation. > Every time i try to log in to the Desktop Environment or WM my Screen goes > black. The PC completely freezes and i cant switch to another TTY. Did you check X logs ? With something like grep EE /var/log

[Debian 12 Issue] Black Screen after starting X11. Cant log in into Graphical Environments. Either DEs or WMs. AMD Radeon GPU problems

2023-06-17 Thread Paul Gerdes
Hi i have a problem with Debian 12 after Installation. Every time i try to log in to the Desktop Environment or WM my Screen goes black. The PC completely freezes and i cant switch to another TTY. I reinstalled Debian 12 a few times via netinstall. Tried different Desktop Environments and WMs. The

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:54:48PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > If you're not willing to do the work to diagnose your own system, then > this thread is over. Guess it's over. thanks to all who have tried to help. --

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 11:43:29PM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 07:18:36PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > If you are running "startx" on tty1 in Debian 11 and Xorg is running > > as root instead of your regular user account, then START THERE. > > I have tested debian 12

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
> > > what display manager you're using (if any). > > > > so we assume that the majority use a display manager who cares about this > > via polkit or similar. > > x11 as root by default is a security risk to which all those running i3-wm > > under xinit are u

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
me that the majority use a display manager who cares about this via > polkit or similar. > x11 as root by default is a security risk to which all those running i3-wm > under xinit are unnecessarily exposed. > unless they know what they are doing. Dear gods. Stop babbling about political

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread therealcyclist
onal, can it? > > > > > > Maybe because some display managers want xorg as root > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#Rootless_Xorg > > > > You linked to the Archlinux Wiki and I have installed i3-wm under > > archlinux and there X11 runs witho

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#Rootless_Xorg > > You linked to the Archlinux Wiki and I have installed i3-wm under > archlinux and there X11 runs without root privileges by default. > > I assumed that it is the same under Debian because Debian is known > for having relatively safe

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 08:22:27PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > I was thinking of these changes in Stretch: > > * For many Intel graphics chipsets, the Stretch X server will use the >modeset driver instead of the intel driver. The modeset driver may >require non-free firmware (firmwar

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jun 03, 2023 at 12:11:47AM +, therealcyclist wrote: > Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 07:52:03PM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > No "needs_root_rights" here, so I don't know why yours needs it. Maybe > > it's got something to do with driver selection? If I recall correctly > > from the days

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
for the last > few releases. > > unicorn:~$ ps -ef | grep X > greg10301007 0 May31 tty1 00:00:00 xinit > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :0 vt1 -keeptty -auth > /tmp/serverauth.C7PjJM0pDW > greg10321030 1 May31 tty1 00:45:5

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
;t be intentional, can it? > > I have fixed the problem by adding the following line in > /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config > > needs_root_rights = no > > After that xorg runs as user. That's quite strange. I have not installed bookworm, but I just upgraded to it. I use sta

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
rise i found out that the xorg process is running as root. > > that can't be intentional, can it? > > Maybe because some display managers want xorg as root > https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#Rootless_Xorg > You linked to the Archlinux Wiki and I have installed i

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
Am Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 09:24:13PM +0200 schrieb Sven Joachim: > > That is rather strange. The source of the wrapper program that decides > whether Xorg needs root rights has not been touched for many years[1]. > > Cheers, >Sven > > > 1. > https://salsa.debian.org/xorg-team/xserver/xor

Re: Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
You linked to the Archlinux Wiki and I have installed i3-wm under archlinux and there X11 runs without root privileges by default. I assumed that it is the same under Debian because Debian is known for having relatively safe default values. It looks like i3 doesn't need x11 as root either.

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Sven Joachim
onal, can it? As long as there is a working kernel driver for all your graphics cards, this is not intended. > I have fixed the problem by adding the following line in > /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config > > needs_root_rights = no > > After that xorg runs as user. That is rather strange.

Re: X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 2 juin 2023 therealcyclist a écrit : > I tried the new Debian bookworm installer rc4 and i manually installed i3-wm. > I started i3 from tty with startx command as user. > to my surprise i found out that the xorg process is running as root. > that can't be intentional, can it? Maybe because so

X11 should not run as root or?

2023-06-02 Thread therealcyclist
/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config needs_root_rights = no After that xorg runs as user.

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2023-02-14 Thread Anssi Saari
Nicolas George writes: > Nicolas George (12020-02-19): >> 8<8<8<8< xi2watch.c >8>8>8>8 > > Hi. > > I am replying to my own mail of three years ago where I explained how to > configure X11 to set different

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2023-01-15 Thread Anssi Saari
Nicolas George writes: > Does the xmodmap effect stay if you run it manually after the keyboard > is hot-plugged? Yes. I don't have a desktop environment in use on my desktop computer either so this should work for me.

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2023-01-10 Thread Nicolas George
Anssi Saari (12023-01-09): > Wow. It's exactly what I need since I've started to use a USB switch in > my home office. Assuming it works for me of course. I've thought about > writing a udev rule but haven't gotten around to it. I hope the program I wrote can help you. > I've tried to run xmodmap

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2023-01-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Nicolas George writes: > Nicolas George (12020-02-19): >> 8<8<8<8< xi2watch.c >8>8>8>8 > > Hi. > > I am replying to my own mail of three years ago where I explained how to > configure X11 to set different

Re: X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2022-12-29 Thread Nicolas George
Nicolas George (12020-02-19): > 8<8<8<8< xi2watch.c >8>8>8>8 Hi. I am replying to my own mail of three years ago where I explained how to configure X11 to set different layouts on different keyboards and handle hot-plugging witho

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread David Wright
#x27;t want to run them as root. > > > > Then don't run them? You can put wpa_cli status into sudoers > > so that it will only run with that command. > > > > > The iwlist and nmcli utilities don't need root to work correctly. > > > > Run t

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Brian
1:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > The OP wanted an X11 app, while iwlist and nmcli are just command-line > > > > > utilities (though one may want to write a script to show information > > > > > in an X11 app, a text terminal or something else?

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-15 13:59:44 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:33:00AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2022-06-15 09:43:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > First example they provide in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) shows the way to > > > use wpa_cli sensibly without being root. > > > One just needs

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-15 12:14:19 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 12:45:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2022-06-15 10:32:58 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 11:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > The OP wanted an X11 app, while

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Reco
On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 11:33:00AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-06-15 09:43:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 03:30:53AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent L

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 12:45:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-06-15 10:32:58 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 11:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > The OP wanted an X11 app, while iwlist and nmcli are just command-line > > > utilities (tho

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-15 10:32:58 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 11:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > The OP wanted an X11 app, while iwlist and nmcli are just command-line > > utilities (though one may want to write a script to show information > > in an X11 ap

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-15 09:43:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 03:30:53AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > No issues with iwlist and nmcli. > > > > > > /usr/sb

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Brian
#x27;t want to run them as root. > > > > Then don't run them? You can put wpa_cli status into sudoers > > so that it will only run with that command. > > > > > The iwlist and nmcli utilities don't need root to work correctly. > > > > Run the

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Brian
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 09:43:50 +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 03:30:53AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > No issues with iwlist and nmcli. > > > > >

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
s > so that it will only run with that command. > > > The iwlist and nmcli utilities don't need root to work correctly. > > Run them then? The OP wanted an X11 app, while iwlist and nmcli are just command-line utilities (though one may want to write a script to show information

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 03:30:53AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > No issues with iwlist and nmcli. > > > > /usr/sbin/wpa_gui and /sbin/wpa_cli should both give sensible o

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-14 Thread David Wright
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 03:30:53 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > No issues with iwlist and nmcli. > > > > /usr/sbin/wpa_gui and /sbin/wpa_cli should both give sensible outputs > > when

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > No issues with iwlist and nmcli. > > /usr/sbin/wpa_gui and /sbin/wpa_cli should both give sensible outputs > when run as root. For security reasons, I don't want to run them as root. The

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-06-11 19:10:09 +0800, lou wrote: > > On 6/11/22 7:00 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > > You are associating with a wireless access point. You must be using > > > wpasupplicant. Have you tried installing wpagui? > > > > Thanks, wpag

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-14 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-06-11 19:10:09 +0800, lou wrote: > On 6/11/22 7:00 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > You are associating with a wireless access point. You must be using > > wpasupplicant. Have you tried installing wpagui? > > Thanks, wpagui seems to work for me. wpagui doesn't work at all for me. It doesn't show

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-13 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 12:00:35 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 18:08:24 +0800, lou wrote: > > > On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote: > > > > > You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant. > > > > > Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE. > > > > > > Thanks, but i

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-12 Thread lou
Thank David Wright! "wpa_cli status" is handy for me

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread lou
On 6/11/22 7:00 PM, Brian wrote: You are associating with a wireless access point. You must be using wpasupplicant. Have you tried installing wpagui? Thanks, wpagui seems to work for me.

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread Brian
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 18:08:24 +0800, lou wrote: > On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote: > > > You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant. > > > Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE. > > > Thanks, but i use ifup/ifdown (not wpasupplicant) to manage network > connection.

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread lou
On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote: You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant. Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE. Thanks, but i use ifup/ifdown (not wpasupplicant) to manage network connection.

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 10 Jun 2022 at 08:05:12 +0800, lou wrote: > i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network name > (wpa-ssid) You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant. > hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for buster) Use of Qt apps d

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Jun 2022 at 22:02:11 (-0400), a wrote: > Sorry, David Wright, i receive your mail late because mail provider > blocks or deletes your mail without informing me > > i use ifup/ifdown to manage wifi connection That suggest that wpa_supplicant is actually managing the connection. > i pref

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread a
Sorry, David Wright, i receive your mail late because mail provider blocks or deletes your mail without informing me i use ifup/ifdown to manage wifi connection i prefer small app for X Window i might  be unable to receive your future mail reply to list so that i might use list archives to re

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 10 Jun 2022 at 06:33, a wrote: > nm-applet seems to be part of gnome I guess it does; I never checked as it runs fine with stumpwm but I probably have gnome dependencies installed. Sorry for the noise. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-06-07) on Debian 11.3

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread a
On 6/10/22 5:49 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Friday, 10 Jun 2022 at 08:05, lou wrote: i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network name (wpa-ssid) nm-applet works for me. It doesn't show the network explicitly unless you hover the mouse over the little icon so I don't k

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 10 Jun 2022 at 08:05, lou wrote: > i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network > name (wpa-ssid) nm-applet works for me. It doesn't show the network explicitly unless you hover the mouse over the little icon so I don't know if this would suit your needs. -- E

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread lou
On 6/10/22 4:12 PM, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: пт, 10 июн. 2022 г. в 05:12, lou : i want a small app that show wifi info, including connected network name (wpa-ssid) You may try gkrellm with gkrellmwireless plugin I don't use it some years, so it may be wrong answer. hopefully it doesn't depe

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-10 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
пт, 10 июн. 2022 г. в 05:12, lou : > i want a small app that show wifi info, including connected network > name (wpa-ssid) You may try gkrellm with gkrellmwireless plugin I don't use it some years, so it may be wrong answer. > hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for

Re: which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-09 Thread David Wright
On Fri 10 Jun 2022 at 08:05:12 (+0800), lou wrote: > i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network > name (wpa-ssid) > > hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for buster) I would have thought that the program by which you connect would be able to

which X11 app can show wifi info

2022-06-09 Thread lou
i want a small app that show wifi info, including  connected network name (wpa-ssid) hopefully it doesn't depend on qt as i don't use kde ( i use twm for buster) Thanks!

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Karel Gardas
 - select Display Configuration node  - move VGA monitor from right to left  - select rotation on left monitor (rotate 90 clockwise)  - hit 'Apply' button ^ and right after hitting Apply I get crash. IMPORTANT: if I do *NOT* rotate left monitor, if I just move it from right to left, X11

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Christian Britz
t; > you helped a lot. Indeed, I've moved all dot files and folders into > backup and even problematic user is able to log in. > > However, first configuration step brings X11 to the knees, crashing and > then I'm seeing login windows again. So I guess this is the r

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Karel Gardas
Hi Cindy, you helped a lot. Indeed, I've moved all dot files and folders into backup and even problematic user is able to log in. However, first configuration step brings X11 to the knees, crashing and then I'm seeing login windows again. So I guess this is the real culpri

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/25/22, Karel Gardas wrote: > On 2/25/22 13:29, Christian Britz wrote: >> Hello Karel, >> >> please try it with a temporary clean profile. >> > > thanks for the idea, indeed after creating a random new and clean user > and attempt to log into the Plasma (X1

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello Christian, thanks for the idea, indeed after creating a random new and clean user and attempt to log into the Plasma (X11) session I went in well. On my problematic user I tried to rename some .cache and .config dirs to remove possibility of corrupted config but this still does not

Re: After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Christian Britz
Hello Karel, please try it with a temporary clean profile. Regards, Christian On 2022-02-25 13:12 UTC+0100, Karel Gardas wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm using debian testing so not sure if this is the right ML, but after > Feb 24 update I'm no longer capable of loggin

After Feb 24 update my X11/KDE stopped working (can't log in). (using debian testing)

2022-02-25 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, I'm using debian testing so not sure if this is the right ML, but after Feb 24 update I'm no longer capable of logging into the X11/KDE-plasma. I simply log into, seeing KDE progress gear and then it returns back to login. My .xsession errors shows that KDE complains about

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-18 Thread John Radek
> > > That means I managed to narrow down the issue. It’s firewall with > > default policy DROP instead of REJECT. It also says something about Xorg > > doing > > something on network I have no idea what > > OK, It's even weirder - it's not firewall. It's a network. When I > disconnect RJ45, n

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-18 Thread John Radek
> That means I managed to narrow down the issue. It’s firewall with > default policy DROP instead of REJECT. It also says something about Xorg doing > something on network I have no idea what OK, It's even weirder - it's not firewall. It's a network. When I disconnect RJ45, no issues, no freez

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-17 Thread John Radek
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 17:23, Marco Möller > wrote: > You will need to study the relevant documentation first. You then will > find why two of the parameters are equal to "0" (it is because others > are in use..., I mentioned already that there are more parameters > present and I only mentione

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-17 Thread Marco Möller
On 16.06.20 12:59, John Radek wrote: On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 09:41, Marco Möller wrote: sudo sysctl vm.swappiness= sudo sysctl vm.vfs_cache_pressure= sudo sysctl vm.dirty_background_bytes= sudo sysctl vm.dirty_bytes= Thank you Marco. I checked my current values --- sudo sysctl vm.swappiness

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-16 Thread John Radek
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 09:41, Marco Möller > wrote: > sudo sysctl vm.swappiness= > sudo sysctl vm.vfs_cache_pressure= > sudo sysctl vm.dirty_background_bytes= > sudo sysctl vm.dirty_bytes= Thank you Marco. I checked my current values --- sudo sysctl vm.swappiness # vm.swappiness = 60 sudo s

Re: X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-16 Thread Marco Möller
On 16.06.20 10:11, John Radek wrote: It usually takes 30sec and then the desktop unfreeze and everything is fine again. This could be caused by the "vm.swappiness", "vm.vfs_cache_pressure" or "vm.dirty" settings. These could be configured permanently in /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/sysctl.d/myf

X11 / KDE Plasma 5 periodically freezes when I use GUI app inside LXC container

2020-06-16 Thread John Radek
000 1 lxc.idmap = u 1001 101001 64535 lxc.idmap = g 1001 101001 64535 lxc.mount.entry = /tmp/.X11-unix tmp/.X11-unix none ro,bind,create=dir 0 0 lxc.environment = DISPLAY=:0 lxc.environment = XAUTHORITY=/home/my_user_name/.Xauthority # optional (works both with and without this): lxc.mount.entry = /dev/dr

X11 and hot-plugged keyboards and multiple layouts

2020-02-19 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. A few weeks back, I asked about standard tools to handle hot-plugged keyboards with different layouts under X11 without root privileges, hinting that I know how to do it with non-standard tools or with root privileges. Here is a concentrate of what I know about the issue, for Debian testing

Re: X11 desktops on buster without systemd

2019-08-27 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:54:19PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > 6. apt install sysvinit-core elogind > > > > Ideally, at this point nothing except systemd would be uninstalled. In > > practice, currently, an awful lot of things that you might actually want > > get uninstall

Re: X11 desktops on buster without systemd

2019-08-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:54:19PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > 6. apt install sysvinit-core elogind > > Ideally, at this point nothing except systemd would be uninstalled. In > practice, currently, an awful lot of things that you might actually want > get uninstalled. Like what? wooledg:~$ apt -s

X11 desktops on buster without systemd

2019-08-27 Thread Dan Ritter
der to make your init=/bin/sh 6. apt install sysvinit-core elogind Ideally, at this point nothing except systemd would be uninstalled. In practice, currently, an awful lot of things that you might actually want get uninstalled. 7. echo needs_root_rights=yes >> /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config 8. s

Re: SSH & X11 forwarding

2018-11-23 Thread der.hans
Am 23. Nov, 2018 schwätzte Martin so: moin moin, please don't 'xhost +', that should not be needed. The application being tunneled comes from localhost, so you shouldn't need any xhost adjustment. ciao, der.hans Hi list members, I have not used X11 over ssh for years n

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