Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 08:17:43AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: [...] > With no client-side javascript, it's not possible to change just a part of a > web page[0]. The server must send the whole web page to be rendered by the > client. So while it decreases CPU usage in the client, it

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

Max Nikulin wrote: ... > I believe, web site creators should be blamed more aggressively than > browser developers for RAM requirements of contemporary web applications. no kidding, rather poor design in many web sites these days, loading and reloading images, large images for little

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 04/06/2023 05:17, Bret Busby wrote: On 4/6/23 14:32, Max Nikulin wrote: I believe, web site creators should be blamed more aggressively than browser developers for RAM requirements of contemporary web applications. That was the point that I was making - I had not, as a twisted

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 4/6/23 14:32, Max Nikulin wrote: I believe, web site creators should be blamed more aggressively than browser developers for RAM requirements of contemporary web applications. That was the point that I was making - I had not, as a twisted response indicated, criticised Firefox

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 03/06/2023 18:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-06-03 at 07:18, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/06/2023 17:40, The Wanderer wrote: Hey, now. I once had a Firefox session (with "restore tabs from previous session" enabled, and about six-to-eight windows) with 5,190 open tabs, and that computer only

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On 3/6/23 20:26, Dan Ritter wrote: Bret Busby wrote: I don't see how they can be both cheap and cost far too much. -dsr- Cheap and nasty construction, selling for excessive prices. "Here is this thing that cost me a dollar to make. I will sell it to you for a hundred dollars, with no

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

Bret Busby wrote: > Last year, I bought the computer described below, as a refurbished machine, > and, it is far superior to the new computers that do not come with enough > RAM to be worthwhile. > > This computer, with 128GB RAM, I regard as far superior to an i9 computer > with 8GB RAM. OK.

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 2023-06-03 at 07:18, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 03/06/2023 17:40, The Wanderer wrote: > >> Hey, now. I once had a Firefox session (with "restore tabs from >> previous session" enabled, and about six-to-eight windows) with >> 5,190 open tabs, and that computer only had 24GB of RAM. > > Modern

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 03/06/2023 17:40, The Wanderer wrote: Hey, now. I once had a Firefox session (with "restore tabs from previous session" enabled, and about six-to-eight windows) with 5,190 open tabs, and that computer only had 24GB of RAM. Modern browsers supports "unloaded" tabs, so most of your tabs

Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

On 2023-06-03 at 01:41, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 6:10 PM Bret Busby wrote: >> This computer, with 128GB RAM, I regard as far superior to an i9 >> computer with 8GB RAM. >> Refurbished computer profile (with 128GB RAM (that runs about 200 >> windows of Firefox (I have

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On 3/6/23 13:41, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 6:10 PM Bret Busby > wrote: On 3/6/23 06:33, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 4:49 PM Bret Busby mailto:b...@busby.net> >

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 6:10 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 3/6/23 06:33, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 4:49 PM Bret Busby > > wrote: > > > > On 2/6/23 23:55, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > > > > > > > > Luddites of the World Unite! You

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On 3/6/23 06:33, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 4:49 PM Bret Busby > wrote: On 2/6/23 23:55, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Luddites of the World Unite! You have nothing to lose but your upgrade > treadmills If, by upgrade

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 4:49 PM Bret Busby wrote: > On 2/6/23 23:55, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > > > > > Luddites of the World Unite! You have nothing to lose but your upgrade > > treadmills > > If, by upgrade treadmills, you mean the flatbed treadmills, that have a > belt that is turned by the

Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On 2/6/23 23:55, James H. H. Lampert wrote: Luddites of the World Unite! You have nothing to lose but your upgrade treadmills If, by upgrade treadmills, you mean the flatbed treadmills, that have a belt that is turned by the human walking on it, rather than the electric ones with electric

A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?

On 6/2/23 8:34 AM, Mario Marietto wrote: You may argue that developing for a small number of old computers isn't worth trying. But,first of all,I think that there are a LOT of old PCs in the world,since poor people aren't only a niche. Nor are they the only ones using antiquated hardware

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El 2023-02-04 a las 16:08 +0100, David Figuera escribió: > > Mantén una consola abierta con «tail -f | dmesg» para ver qué va > > haciendo wpasupplicant. > > En todo caso dmesg -w porque tail, tal como lo has invocado, no va > a leer nada. Cierto. Con tail la orden debe ser: «tail -f

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

> Mantén una consola abierta con «tail -f | dmesg» para ver qué va > haciendo wpasupplicant. En todo caso dmesg -w porque tail, tal como lo has invocado, no va a leer nada.

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El 4/2/23 a las 10:06, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: El día 04/02/2023, a las 13:41, Camaleón escribió: El 2023-02-04 a las 11:35 +0100, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: No es usb, es una tarjeta PCMCIA. (Uso un portátil viejo) Entonces debería aparecer con «lspci -v». En efecto,

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El 2023-02-04 a las 14:06 +0100, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: > El día 04/02/2023, a las 13:41, Camaleón escribió: (...) > > > NOTA: En el momento de usar este comando eth1 es la interfaz de la tarjeta > > > de red interna del portátil (qué si que funciona) Lo que no encuentro es > > >

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El día 04/02/2023, a las 13:41, Camaleón escribió: > El 2023-02-04 a las 11:35 +0100, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: > > > No es usb, es una tarjeta PCMCIA. (Uso un portátil viejo) > > Entonces debería aparecer con «lspci -v». En efecto, aparece. Mira: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El 2023-02-04 a las 11:35 +0100, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: > El día 04/02/2023, a las 09:25, Camaleón escribió: > > > [ 1963.373019] ath: Country alpha2 being used: AM > > ^^ > > ¿Armenia? :-? > > > > Manda la salida de «dmesg|grep -i

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El día 04/02/2023, a las 09:25, Camaleón escribió: > > [ 1963.373019] ath: Country alpha2 being used: AM > ^^ > ¿Armenia? :-? > > Manda la salida de «dmesg|grep -i ath*» por si hubiera más información. > Sí, ni idea de por qué código es AM Aquí

Re: Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

El 2023-02-03 a las 20:07 +0100, Alfonso García Rodríguez escribió: > Acabo de pinchar una nueva tarjeta de red a mi portátil, y veo que se cargan > en el núcleo los módulos necesarios para su funcionamiento: > > ath5k 139264 0 > ath28672 1 ath5k > mac80211

Interfaz de red nuevo hardware

Hola lista, Acabo de pinchar una nueva tarjeta de red a mi portátil, y veo que se cargan en el núcleo los módulos necesarios para su funcionamiento: ath5k 139264 0 ath28672 1 ath5k mac80211 663552 1 ath5k libarc416384 1

Re: Changing hardware

this with nvidia kernel drivers! Thanks James On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 09:27, Anssi Saari wrote: > piorunz writes: > > > Free drivers are terrible to use if user wants hardware acceleration. > > Clocks are not ramped up, because nouveau does not support re-clocking. > > That me

Re: Changing hardware

piorunz writes: > Free drivers are terrible to use if user wants hardware acceleration. > Clocks are not ramped up, because nouveau does not support re-clocking. > That means horrible performance, or crashes. I don't ever recommend, or > sometimes even mention, nouveau. H

Re: Changing hardware

wants hardware acceleration. Clocks are not ramped up, because nouveau does not support re-clocking. That means horrible performance, or crashes. I don't ever recommend, or sometimes even mention, nouveau. Disclaimer: I use nouveau myself on my server for unaccelerated display purposes, I know what I

Re: Changing hardware

piorunz composed on 2022-03-08 23:15 (UTC): > James Allsopp wrote: >> My old core2 (8gb ram) died after a power cycle,so I bought an AMD Ryzen >> 5800 with 32Gb Ram and a new motherboard and a new nvidia graphics > You could have purchased Radeon GPU... Now you will be on mercy of > Nvidia to

Re: Changing hardware

gt; > I was going to upgrade to Debian 11 anyway, but is there a way to update > all the drivers and kernel to reflect the new hardware? > Assuming you had a 64-bit kernel installed to begin with -- you probably did, the Core2 series supported that -- you don't need a kernel change at all.

Re: Changing hardware

tps://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/>). I was going to upgrade to Debian 11 anyway, but is there a way to update all the drivers and kernel to reflect the new hardware? You could have purchased Radeon GPU... Now you will be on mercy of Nvidia to provide you with up to date, and comp

Changing hardware

, but is there a way to update all the drivers and kernel to reflect the new hardware? Thanks James

Hardware Acceleration on Chromium 99

Hi all, I'm running chromium 99 on Bullseye: Version 99.0.4844.51 (Official Build) built on Debian 11.2, running on Debian 11.2 (64-bit) And I can't get hardware acceleration working. I've followed the instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/Chromium#Video_acceleration As well as a variety

Re: /etc/adjtime (setting the hardware clock to local time on Debian 11)

On 2/11/22, Anssi Saari wrote: > José Luis González writes: > >> According to >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime >> >> There should be an /etc/adjtime file to configure the timezone for the >> hardware clock. I have no such file in my Debian 11 lap

Re: /etc/adjtime (setting the hardware clock to local time on Debian 11)

CC'ing back to the list. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 03:34:35PM +0100, José Luis González wrote: > Would creating an /etc/adjtime as done by the postinst script be fine? As far as I know, yes. Try it and see. The worst that can happen is your clock will be wrong, but that's already the case,

Re: /etc/adjtime (setting the hardware clock to local time on Debian 11)

José Luis González writes: > According to > > https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime > > There should be an /etc/adjtime file to configure the timezone for the > hardware clock. I have no such file in my Debian 11 laptop. May I know > if the file was removed and what was it repla

Re: /etc/adjtime (setting the hardware clock to local time on Debian 11)

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:54:01PM +0100, José Luis González wrote: > According to > > https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime > > There should be an /etc/adjtime file to configure the timezone for the > hardware clock. That's... not how I'd describe that file, but I suppose "

/etc/adjtime (setting the hardware clock to local time on Debian 11)

According to https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime There should be an /etc/adjtime file to configure the timezone for the hardware clock. I have no such file in my Debian 11 laptop. May I know if the file was removed and what was it replaced with? I just want to set the hardware clock to local time

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On Jo, 03 feb 22, 06:35:40, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 3/2/22 5:42 am, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > I'd suggest a Raspberry Pi 4B. The requirements you listed elsewhere > > > would make this a cheap and workable alternative. The only issue is > > > that any SATA disks would have to be run

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

02 17:55 UTC+0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 03:11:57PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: >>>> Do you have any recommendations for me? >>> >>> I have much the requirements and my current solution is documented here: >>> <https

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

but be capable of performing the tasks well, ideally have working WIFI, be silent, low-power and small. Do you have any recommendations for me? I had a similar wish list for a SOHO LAN server/ NAS several years ago. My conclusion was that small, energy efficient, high-performance computer hardware

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:42:14 -0500 Henning Follmann wrote: > > And we can do one better: > the raspi compute module and the cm IO board. > here you will get a PCIe socket which then can take up > a SATA controller. > Can you recommend a tiny PCIe SATA controller to go in there, and possibly a

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 3/2/22 5:42 am, Henning Follmann wrote: I'd suggest a Raspberry Pi 4B. The requirements you listed elsewhere would make this a cheap and workable alternative. The only issue is that any SATA disks would have to be run through a USB 3 port. Using an SSD might mitigate any lag. I use one of

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 11:23:01AM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:11:57 +0100 > Christian Britz wrote: > > > Inspired by my previous attempts to implent NFS on my Synology NAS, I > > am thinking about buying a mini server where I install Debian to > > serve as file

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

Jonathan Dowland writes: On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 03:11:57PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: Do you have any recommendations for me? I have much the requirements and my current solution is documented here: <https://jmtd.net/hardware/phobos/> I am using an Intel NUC with Celeron J3455

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 2022-02-02 17:55 UTC+0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 03:11:57PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: >> Do you have any recommendations for me? > > I have much the requirements and my current solution is documented here: > <https://jmtd.net/hardware/phobos/> ...bookmarked! :-)

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 03:11:57PM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: Do you have any recommendations for me? I have much the requirements and my current solution is documented here: <https://jmtd.net/hardware/phobos/> -- Please do not CC me for listmail.  Jonathan Dowland ✎

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 15:11:57 +0100 Christian Britz wrote: > Inspired by my previous attempts to implent NFS on my Synology NAS, I > am thinking about buying a mini server where I install Debian to > serve as file share (SMB and NFS) and DLNA server. > > It should fully support Debian Stable,

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 02/02/2022 14:38, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-02-02 15:30 UTC+0100, Grzesiek wrote: I used Zyxel NSA310 some time ago, Debian howto: https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,29970,30036 More devices are supported The successor Zyxel NAS326 sounds interesting, but I am looking more for

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 2022-02-02 15:25 UTC+0100, Dan Ritter wrote: > How small is small for you? A small box which fits under my desk. > And do you need RAID, or just storage, and if so, how much? RAID is overkill and I need approximately 500G of storage. > For example, an ASRock 4X4 BOX-R1000V will run

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

Christian Britz wrote: > Inspired by my previous attempts to implent NFS on my Synology NAS, I am > thinking about buying a mini server where I install Debian to serve as > file share (SMB and NFS) and DLNA server. > > It should fully support Debian Stable, have a low price but be capable > of

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 2022-02-02 15:30 UTC+0100, Grzesiek wrote: > I used Zyxel NSA310 some time ago, Debian howto: > https://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,29970,30036 > More devices are supported The successor Zyxel NAS326 sounds interesting, but I am looking more for something which I do not have to hack before

Re: Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

On 2/2/22 15:11, Christian Britz wrote: Inspired by my previous attempts to implent NFS on my Synology NAS, I am thinking about buying a mini server where I install Debian to serve as file share (SMB and NFS) and DLNA server. It should fully support Debian Stable, have a low price but be

Mini server hardware for home use NAS purposes

Inspired by my previous attempts to implent NFS on my Synology NAS, I am thinking about buying a mini server where I install Debian to serve as file share (SMB and NFS) and DLNA server. It should fully support Debian Stable, have a low price but be capable of performing the tasks well, ideally

Re: Asunto: Re: Aceleracion por Hardware

ue > usar la gpu es importante para darle equilibrio al sistema.Das pocos datos > sobre tu configuración de los componentes que tienes instalados, los drivers > que usas o las versiones de las aplicaciones.Es posible que tengas alguna > combinación de elementos que te impidan ejecutar la a

Re: Aceleracion por Hardware

Es posible que tengas alguna combinación de elementos que te impidan ejecutar la aceleración por hardware, ya que para que funcione correctamente debe de darse una conjunción planetaria concreta :-) Revisa los documentos que tienes la wiki¹ de ArchLinux que siempre son útiles y te servirán para

Aceleracion por Hardware

Como puedo realmente activar la aceleracion grafica en totem, en epiphany-broser y trambien en brave o firefox. De alguna forma lo activo en funciones experimentales pero en la practica no funciona. existe un metodo que funcione. Uso Wayland y open source AMDgpu.Agradezco me ayuden porque usar

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware / Upgraded to 11 - Zenity width quirk

On Wed 17 Nov 2021 at 10:03:55 -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] I di not think my comment will psrticularly help the Op. > I can't judge whether the solution is there (I hadn't heard of > zenity until today). zenity constructs dialog boxes from shell scripts. On one of my systems it would

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware / Upgraded to 11 - Zenity width quirk

On Wed 17 Nov 2021 at 10:35:20 (-0500), Allen Hoover wrote: > I use a number of zenity dialogs for showing info or asking questions on > this system. On the Deb 9 system, these dialogs displayed with a > reasonable width/height, without explicitly setting either --width or > --height options.

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware / Upgraded to 11 - Zenity width quirk

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:35:20AM -0500, Allen Hoover wrote: > line. For instance, zenity --info --text "The quick brown fox jumped > over the lazy dogs", displays in 5 rows, instead of in 1 row like it > used to before upgrading. The behaviour is the same on a fresh install > of 11. > >

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware / Upgraded to 11 - Zenity width quirk

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:59:35PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2021-10-21 09:27 (UTC-0400): > > > Now, knowing that this is a piece of hardware that was released in 2021, > > I would *not* attempt to run Debian 9 on it. You *might* be able to

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

Greg Wooledge composed on 2021-10-21 09:27 (UTC-0400): > Now, knowing that this is a piece of hardware that was released in 2021, > I would *not* attempt to run Debian 9 on it. You *might* be able to > run Debian 11 on it, if you

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 06:35:30AM -0400, alt...@emypeople.net wrote: > In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian > system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole > system to a later Debian version? > In general, I'd really sug

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

Pentium G6405 CPU. > > Do you have a backport xserver-xorg-video-intel ? That's usually > > the determining factor for X11 issues like this. > The xserver-xorg-video-intel package description says use of it is > discouraged on hardware newer than 2007. I thought the bui

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 08:09:20AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > alt...@emypeople.net wrote: > > In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian > > system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole > > system to a

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

On Jo, 21 oct 21, 06:35:30, alt...@emypeople.net wrote: > In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian > system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole > system to a later Debian version? > > > In particular, I'm wishing

Re: Debian 9 on H410 hardware

alt...@emypeople.net wrote: > In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian > system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole > system to a later Debian version? > > > In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 syste

Debian 9 on H410 hardware

In general I'm wondering if it is possible to upgrade an older Debian system to be compatible with newer hardware, without upgrading the whole system to a later Debian version? In particular, I'm wishing to get a Debian 9 system to run on an MSI H410M-PRO-C board, with an Intel Pentium G6405

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

moment. 10% of them are probed from LiveCDs, others are installed systems. The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support for any hardware configuration classes. To achieve this, I compared it with the similar report for Debian 10 [2] in order to find significant discrepancies.

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

gt; > > > > See report here [1]. We have ~400 computers tested on Debian 11 at the > > > moment. 10% of them are probed from LiveCDs, others are installed systems. > > > > > > The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

The data also on salsa now https://salsa.debian.org/linuxhw/TestCoverage/-/tree/main/Dist/Debian_11 -- Robbi Nespu D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA https://robbinespu.gitlab.io | https://mstdn.social/@robbinespu

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

Bret Busby wrote: > > And, does Debian 11 support the Intel i7 Haskell architecture? Do you mean Haswell? If so, yes. -dsr-

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

, others are installed systems. The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support for any hardware configuration classes. To achieve this, I compared it with the similar report for Debian 10 [2] in order to find significant discrepancies. Good news that we've covered all

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

> on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote > >> Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? > > the package are dump and store at > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer, > maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize >

Re: Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

lled systems. > > The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support for > any hardware configuration classes. To achieve this, I compared it with the > similar report for Debian 10 [2] in order to find significant discrepancies. > Good news that we've covered all hardwa

Re: Memory and other hardware safety issue regarding ZFS [was Disk for a small server]

ZFS more dangerous >>>> than another filesystem using non-ECC memory. >>> >>> >>> I think the amount of danger depends upon how you do your risk >>> assessment math.  I find used entry-level server hardware with ECC >>> memory to be desirable for a

Preliminary hardware support status report - one week before the release of Debian 11

Hello all! See report here [1]. We have ~400 computers tested on Debian 11 at the moment. 10% of them are probed from LiveCDs, others are installed systems. The main goal of the report is to make sure that we have not lost support for any hardware configuration classes. To achieve this, I

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On Thu 29 Jul 2021 at 12:54:14 (+0300), Anssi Saari wrote: > Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > > > LiveCDs for quick testing: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ > > Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what > parameters are needed?

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

Andrey Ponomarenko writes: > LiveCDs for quick testing: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Well, are these images bootable via Grub directly and if so then what parameters are needed? Making testing easy eases testing...

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On 7/24/2021 4:14 PM, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linu

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

; :Hi,what is the last day to take the test?thank you.PaoloOn 28/07/21 21:45, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote:27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven lis

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

version 11 by filling out  the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations:  https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11  The development team only has a limited set of hardware for tests, but  I'm sure we can find almost any con

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

27.07.2021, 23:43, "Marco Möller" :On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello!  Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On 24.07.21 22:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCover

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On 24/07/2021 21:14, Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: Hello! Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master/Dist/Debian_11 <https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCover

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 05:18:57PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:53:13 +0200 > wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > > > pretty much by definition.

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

on 24 Jul 2021 16:27:23 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? the package are dump and store at https://salsa.debian.org/debian/hw-probe by debian package maintainer, maybe the upstream author (Andrey Ponomarenko) want to centralize testcoverage

Re: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real hardware

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 4:23 PM Andrey Ponomarenko < andrewponomare...@yandex.ru> wrote: > Let's help developers to test upcoming Debian version 11 by filling out > the community-driven list of tested hardware configurations: > https://github.com/linuxhw/TestCoverage/tree/master

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:53:13 +0200 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > [...] > > > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > > pretty much by definition. > > License restrictions apply. Of course, but I didn't think that

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 12:49:19PM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > Anyone can "borrow" open source code, regardless of where it's hosted, > pretty much by definition. License restrictions apply. Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:48:03 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2021 15:36:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim

Re: Hardware life expectancy

On 7/25/21 6:38 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: . . . Nowadays, I'm still planning to use that same Thinkpad X30 to display PDFs in the classroom (when I get to meet students physically again), and more than half of my machine are older than 10 years old. Better yet, they don't seem significantly

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Monday 26 July 2021 02:51:40 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:48:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > Us old jeezers, always so full of history ;-) We lived it. > With a tip o' the hat to Rudyard Kipling [1]. > > But I think that's enough off-topic, so I'll stop

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:48:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > +100 Tomas, as it gives them free access to "borrow" some of the best > code out there. So the comparison to the underhanded compuserve and > apple (remember gif and firewire?) as a future dagger in our back is > very real.

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sunday 25 July 2021 15:36:26 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 09:21:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 21:36:26 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > It is subtle, and you might disagree. > > My disagreement is based on my pragmetic attitude. Nobody is out to > get us. Assume the best. A good Debian attitude, IMHO.

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 21:36:26 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 03:58:13PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > In the next ten years, people will be coding less and less as we do it. > We'll drive some AI process for coding. For now, it's web frameworks :-/ > If you speak French, I'd suggest this video. I'll

Re: [OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

Hi, On 2021-07-25 3:36 p.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Of course, github succeeded in one thing: they managed to centralise > git, which is inherently decentral. Many people these days see github > as a synonym to git and can't bother to use git without github's > shiny web interface. > They

[OT] Why I don't like github [was: Please help to test latest Debian 11 release candidate on real] hardware

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 07:43:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 25 Jul 2021 at 09:34:42 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 04:27:23PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > Why isn't this on Salsa instead of a Microsoft site? > > > > ...you're right. I won't touch

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