busybox-syslogd remote and memory logging

2024-02-02 Thread Greg
Hi there, I'm using busybox-syslogd. I'm trying to make it log to remote system and to memory buffer. According to manual I should use -R 192.168.1.1 for remote logging and -C128 option for memory buffer. Unfortunately, when used together logs are only sent to remote server. On Bookworm

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 10/08/2023 16:53, gene heskett wrote: On 8/9/23 21:15, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/08/2023 09:57, gene heskett wrote: dbus-update-activation-environment: error: unable to connect to D-Bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/1000/bus: Connection refused ... Try to figure out at which

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-10 Thread gene heskett
On 8/9/23 21:24, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/08/2023 19:07, gene heskett wrote: digikam for example, does report what I assume is the package name, just running it, reports a couple screens full of Exiv2 errors, but Exiv2 is installed. I have an impression that properly built AppImage should

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-10 Thread gene heskett
On 8/9/23 21:15, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/08/2023 09:57, gene heskett wrote: Xsession: X session started for gene at Tue 27 Jun 2023 02:58:23 PM EDT   ^^^ dbus-update-activation-environment: error: unable to connect to D-Bus: Failed to

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/08/2023 19:07, gene heskett wrote: digikam for example, does report what I assume is the package name, just running it, reports a couple screens full of Exiv2 errors, but Exiv2 is installed. I have an impression that properly built AppImage should come with all necessary libraries

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-09 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/08/2023 09:57, gene heskett wrote: Xsession: X session started for gene at Tue 27 Jun 2023 02:58:23 PM EDT ^^^ dbus-update-activation-environment: error: unable to connect to D-Bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/user/1000/bus:

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-09 Thread gene heskett
On 8/9/23 10:47, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: gene heskett wrote: Someplace where an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might express its displeasure at not finding everything it needs? I've always thought that was a main advantage of starting anything from the command line -

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-09 Thread debian-user
gene heskett wrote: > Someplace where an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might > express its displeasure at not finding everything it needs? I've always thought that was a main advantage of starting anything from the command line - there's an obvious place for the output - the

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-09 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: >songbird wrote: ... >>man journald.conf... > > I've looked at that, even looked at the file. It is all systemd > related, no mention of user stuffs. Its as if a 3 meter tall board > fence has been built around the systemd stuff that user apps can't get thru. no, i

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-08 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 08, 2023 at 10:33:04AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/8/23 00:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > See, if you "do" AppImages you are multiplying your system's complexity. [...] > And that's sad, Tomas. The current, nominally 7 day old AppImage of > OpenSCAD can load and

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-08 Thread gene heskett
let's be scientific: what evidence makes you assume that there's anything in the logs you are not shown? see gigabytes of stuff from kwin etc, but nary a syllable from what isn't working because something blocks it. Perhaps "what isn't working" isn't logging to the syslogs at all? (this

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-08 Thread gene heskett
ith something called an "AppImage", whatever the hell that is, the details are not likely to show up in system logs. If you don't like journalctl and related things, install rsyslog. It will take less than a minute, and then your system logging will be back to normal. You can read the files

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-08 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 05:32:03PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 13:23, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:41:11AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > >

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread tomas
makes you assume that there's anything in the logs you are not shown? > see gigabytes of stuff from kwin etc, but nary a syllable from what isn't > working because something blocks it. Perhaps "what isn't working" isn't logging to the syslogs at all? (this hunch has come up

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
blem with something called an "AppImage", whatever the hell that is, the details are not likely to show up in system logs. If you don't like journalctl and related things, install rsyslog. It will take less than a minute, and then your system logging will be back to normal. You can re

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/08/2023 00:35, gene heskett wrote: There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I click on the save to disk button. Really? And certainly --attach/-p option is not a rescue. Sending output to a file, filtering specific calls, increasing

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/08/2023 00:35, gene heskett wrote: There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I click on the save to disk button. Really? And certainly --attach/-p option is not a rescue. Sending output to a file, filtering specific calls, increasing per line size limit are useless

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 20:00, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... I believe konsole is unlimited by default. On checking in settings, its not listed. Scrollback is from my /tmp, which would be on my raid10, so maybe that something else that is blocked from useing my raid10. IDK. ulimit reports

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > I believe konsole is unlimited by default. On checking in settings, its > not listed. Scrollback is from my /tmp, which would be on my raid10, so > maybe that something else that is blocked from useing my raid10. IDK. > ulimit reports unlimited. And there is 32G of

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 16:16, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... Many times over the last 25 years. However this problem occurs when it has already output several gigabytes of previous data the shell has scrolled off the end of th buffer.. There is not a way to have it start doing the trace when I

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 13:23, Henning Follmann wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:41:11AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > Many times over the last 25 years. However this problem occurs when it > has already output several gigabytes of previous data the shell has > scrolled off the end of th buffer.. There is not a way to have it start > doing the trace when I click on the save to disk

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
On 8/7/23 12:19, songbird wrote: gene heskett wrote: ... Absolutely none of that makes it to the log I can read with sudo. This causes me to ask about any new ACL's bookworm might have put in place, but questions about that have so far been totally ignored. I according to an ls -lR, own that

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:41:11AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 8/7/23 07:50, Henning Follmann wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > > > > Andy Smith

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread songbird
gene heskett wrote: ... > Absolutely none of that makes it to the log I can read with sudo. > > This causes me to ask about any new ACL's bookworm might have put in > place, but questions about that have so far been totally ignored. I > according to an ls -lR, own that raid10 lock, stock and

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread gene heskett
to normal. err, "how to get back." Normal is the new systemd And the new logging is journal.d or some such. And I so far have not been able to detect from reading its tail equ, what port of which card is WHICH PHYSICAL DRIVE? Logging is IMO incomplete until I can easily locate the dri

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-07 Thread Henning Follmann
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 03:12:39PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > [...] > In some cases, the release notes actually do tell you how to get back > to normal. err, "how to get back."

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/08/2023 02:03, Joe wrote: I use 'tail -f ' at least once a week journalctl -f

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Andy Smith
ular packages, that does not seem likely. I suppose it could happen though, if journald got all the features of every syslogd. Still one of the design goals of journald was the structured (binary format) logging whereas plain text logging is a very popular syslog feature, so that still doesn't seem lik

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:03:27PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > The release notes in particular are essential reading since > > otherwise a person won't know about major components that have > > changed, been replaced etc. > > Indeed, but they

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Joe
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 15:09:41 + Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 09:23:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > In any case, this is not a popular change. > > I don't think that's clear. I think that amongst a population of > people who care d

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 09:23:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In any case, this is not a popular change. I don't think that's clear. I think that amongst a population of people who care deeply about logging it's generally unfavourable, and I myself don't particularly enjoy us

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 08:56:36AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > It is highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed > something that I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. …because you didn't read the release notes that are absolutely required reading to

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2023-08-05 09:23:25-0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In any case, this [systemd journal] is not a popular change. I don't > remember ever hearing a single person say "Wow, I'm so glad they did > this!" I've seen many complaints. Most often, people just (re)install > rsyslog and move on with their

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread err404
in *using* my computer than learning whole new paradigms about, say, logging. Changing things will *always* be perceived as friction unless someone explains clearly why it makes sense, to me personally. -Carl Fink I have syslog, and journald. about having syslog, it is probably because I install

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:12:31PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Does this clarify? > > https://wiki.debian.org/Rsyslog#Deprecation_in_Bookworm Ah, I didn't know about that page. It links to bug #1018788 which says, among other things, The main reason here is, that I want to avoid that log data

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
igms about, say, logging. Changing > things > will *always* be perceived as friction unless someone explains clearly why > it makes > sense, to me personally. You're unlikely to get a satisfactory explanation. My best guess is they (the Debian developers in question) think systemd

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Brian
highly probable that I'm being grumpy because Debian changed something > that > I was used to for decades, without my realizing it. I'm more interested in > *using* my > computer than learning whole new paradigms about, say, logging. Changing > things > will *always* be pe

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Carl Fink
whole new paradigms about, say, logging. Changing things will *always* be perceived as friction unless someone explains clearly why it makes sense, to me personally. -Carl Fink

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-05 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-08-04, Carl Fink wrote: > Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought > I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why. > > Well, no ... because syslog does not exist. If you don't have syslog your logs will be on journald. But X logs could be in

Re: logging no longer standard?

2023-08-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 04, 2023 at 10:40:37PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought > I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why. > > Well, no ... because syslog does not exist. > > Is it really the default to have no/v

logging no longer standard?

2023-08-04 Thread Carl Fink
Today, on my Bullseye system, X crashed and restarted. Naturally, I thought I'd check my logs to see if I could find out why. Well, no ... because syslog does not exist. Is it really the default to have no/very little logging when using mostly the default install? (I just installed syslog-ng

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-10 09:28:51 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk > > > that you may not log in any more with ssh in case

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 03:19:31PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk > > that you may not log in any more with ssh in case of mistake > > (I'm wondering whether there is an

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-10 15:07:17 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Note: if you play with .ssh/rc, be careful as there is a risk > that you may not log in any more with ssh in case of mistake > (I'm wondering whether there is an undocumented way to skip it). For this point, there are solutions there:

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-10 14:36:25 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] > zira:~> ssh cventin xterm > Connected to cventin (from 140.77.51.8) > OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) [x86_64] > DISPLAY: localhost:11.0 > > and xterm is started as expected. FYI, some data, like DISPLAY, are > output by my .ssh/rc

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-09 20:07:26 +0200, zithro wrote: > On 09 May 2023 18:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote: > > > > > > journalctl after GUI LOGOFF > > >

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-09 14:17:14 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > zithro wrote: > > On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > BTW, you should also try GNU Screen to see if you have the same issue > > > with it (this could help debugging). > > > > Do you mean trying "ssh u@h screen" ? > > Never tried

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-09 19:44:48 +0200, zithro wrote: > On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote: > > > Here is what happens chronologically : > > > > > > 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X > > > forwarding,

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread Dan Ritter
zithro wrote: > On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > BTW, you should also try GNU Screen to see if you have the same issue > > with it (this could help debugging). > > Do you mean trying "ssh u@h screen" ? > Never tried screen with GUI apps, does that work ? Not in a useful way. For

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 08:07:26PM +0200, zithro wrote: > I use Ctrl-D to close ssh sessions, "~." does not work, I get "bash: command > not found". To use the tilde commands in the ssh client, they have to be at the "beginning of a line", which means you have to press Enter first. Or at least

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread zithro
On 09 May 2023 18:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote: journalctl after GUI LOGOFF [...] May 05 14:09:14 debzit

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread zithro
On 09 May 2023 17:47, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hi, On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote: Here is what happens chronologically : 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP" (like firejail

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-05-05 15:04:27 +0200, zithro wrote: > > journalctl after GUI LOGOFF > [...] > May 05 14:09:14 debzit sshd[14246]: Received disconnect from IP.IP.IP.IP >

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, On 2023-05-04 21:07:17 +0200, zithro wrote: > Here is what happens chronologically : > > 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X > forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP" > (like firejail firefox, firejail thunderbird, etc).

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-07 Thread zithro
On 06 May 2023 07:07, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, May 06, 2023 at 10:24:52AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Thanks both for the pointers, will report back with results

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-07 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 19:14, Max Nikulin wrote: Does it happen for newly created user with no customization? Never tried ! I recommended to do it just for a case that you added something to init files for the "zithro" user. AFAIK I didn't customize a lot, as I'm rarely logging to X. Bu

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-07 Thread zithro
keep the X login open till I close all ssh sessions, but it's using ressources for nothing. Except NOT logging in X (which I rarely do), the quickest fix would be to remove systemd altogether, it's only there because it's Debian's defaults. I just dunno if it's as easy on my setup than on non-X+DE

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/05/2023 12:33, David wrote: That sounds like what is documented here, with the solution at the end: $ apt show dbus-user-session I have tried quite similar steps, it seems the cause is not dbus-user-session per se. I have a laptop with Debian 11 bullseye and "minimalistic" KDE

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread tomas
of dbus are running once you have started all your processes *and* logged in to the DE session? If it's only one user dbus, then logging out is taking that one away. Perhaps this would be an interesting data point: 1 ps wwaux | grep dbus; keep the result 2 start all your programs; don't log i

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 May 2023 at 13:59:37 (+0200), zithro wrote: > On 05 May 2023 07:33, David wrote: > > On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote: > > > > > this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough. > > > > Subject: Logging off an X s

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread David Wright
On Sat 06 May 2023 at 09:57:30 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/05/2023 10:30, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote: > > > > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do > > > > some stuff,

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/05/2023 20:04, zithro wrote: journalctl after GUI LOGOFF I do not see obvious problems. What might be inspected more closely: May 05 14:09:14 debzit systemd[711]: Stopping D-Bus User Message Bus... ^^^ If it is the bus

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/05/2023 10:30, David Wright wrote: On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote: 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu. Immediately, ALL the previous SSH

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/05/2023 18:58, zithro wrote: # loginctl list-sessions SESSION  UID USER    SEAT  TTY     111 1000 zithro     112 1000 zithro     141 1000 zithro    pts/0 I do not see anything suspicious. I suppose, dbus-user-session hypothesis by David may be more productive. Perhaps you may

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 16:10, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I have now full logs of before/after GUI logon/logoff, I posted them in the other post. Will try to make sense of it with this lead ... after a needed break ^^ I saved that for a look during weekend, now I'm supposed to fix an update of... forget

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 03:26:12PM +0200, zithro wrote: > On 05 May 2023 14:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > No DE, just a window manager (fvwm2). > > Isn't that fluxbox ? That's the GUI I used on Slackware. > Simple, lean, efficient ! No, quite a bit older. Fluxbox 2000-ish, fvwm

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 14:11, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:58:55PM +0200, zithro wrote: On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd, no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X). I'm on bullseye, I know how to

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
So, previous post was BEFORE logging in into GUI via VNC. Now, I have outputs from after GUI LOGIN and after GUI LOGOFF. I've removed the maximum of useless lines (audio, GUI apps, gvfs stuff, etc), but tried to keep the most about systemd and dbus, as I'm clueless about what you wanna read

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 01:58:55PM +0200, zithro wrote: > On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd, > > no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X). > > I'm on bullseye, I know how to switch back to old init, but have no

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 07:33, David wrote: On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote: this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough. Subject: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X Yeah, I meant title==subject, I was hoping

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 06:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: dbus is a candidate. Let me explain: I have a funny setup -- no systemd, no dbus (still, Debian buster, and X). I'm on bullseye, I know how to switch back to old init, but have no clue about Dbus (kinda a Linux-GUI-with-systemd noob). Which DE/DM

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
On 05 May 2023 05:30, David Wright wrote: Isn't it this issue? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19023885 Looks like it, yes ! I'm afraid I can't replicate the problem, though, as I don't have a "log off" button or menu entry. That might suggest that the problem is in something I don't

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-05 Thread zithro
r .slice and .scope), "loginctl list-users", "loginctl list-sessions" on each step. I'm a systemd noob, don't really know what you talking about ^^ But seems like the culprit. Ran those commands (fucking auto pager though, way to break scrolling ... another fail) So *before

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-04 Thread David
On Thu, 4 May 2023 at 19:07, zithro wrote: > this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough. Subject: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X > Here is what happens chronologically : > > 1. I start various SSH

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 09:13:04AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote: > > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some > > stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu. [...] > Perhaps it may be related to user D-Bus sessions, however I

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-04 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 May 2023 at 09:13:04 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote: > > 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do > > some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu. > > Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 > > get

Re: Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/05/2023 02:07, zithro wrote: 2. using VNC or rdesktop, I then log on to X on the machine, do some stuff, then hit "log off" from the desktop menu. Immediately, ALL the previous SSH connections started in step 1 get closed, hence all the shells and the GUI apps (firefox, etc) ! Have you

Logging off an X session closes all ssh -X connections started previously from outside X

2023-05-04 Thread zithro
Hi all, this is a rather strange problem, I hope the title is explicit enough. Here is what happens chronologically : 1. I start various SSH connections to a host, some normal, some with X forwarding, like that: "ssh user@host" and "ssh -X -n user@host GUI_APP" (like firejail firefox,

Re: ha thee thee pee oh kee plus logging van het request

2021-08-25 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 07:24:32AM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:53:19PM +0200, Martijn van de Streek wrote: > > Geert Stappers schreef op di 24-08-2021 om 22:53 [+0200]: > > > Wat ik zoek is software die elk HTTP verzoek in bestand zet > > > en daarna "200 OK"

Re: ha thee thee pee oh kee plus logging van het request

2021-08-24 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 11:53:19PM +0200, Martijn van de Streek wrote: > Geert Stappers schreef op di 24-08-2021 om 22:53 [+0200]: > > Wat ik zoek is software die elk HTTP verzoek in bestand zet > > en daarna "200 OK" antwoordt.  De opgeslagen bestandjes > > kan ik dan met elkaar vergelijken.

Re: ha thee thee pee oh kee plus logging van het request

2021-08-24 Thread Martijn van de Streek
Geert Stappers schreef op di 24-08-2021 om 22:53 [+0200]: > Wat ik zoek is software die elk HTTP verzoek in bestand zet > en daarna "200 OK" antwoordt.  De opgeslagen bestandjes > kan ik dan met elkaar vergelijken. Bestandje bevat de HTTP headers > en message body. > > Ik weet dat er een bos (een

ha thee thee pee oh kee plus logging van het request

2021-08-24 Thread Geert Stappers
Hoi, Samenvatting: Gezocht: "webserver" die verzoeken logt en ze met 200 OK beantwoordt. Probleem waar ik een oplossing voor zoek ga ik wat algemeen beschrijven met achterliggend idee dat het niet TE specifiek is. Een webservice kan ik succesvol aanspreken met curl in een bash script. Het

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 14 March 2021 07:50:37 Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 05:10:42PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > OPTIONS="--create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir -s > > ~/log/mail.log" > > spamd is a system service and it normally (initially) runs as root, > so using a

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 05:10:42PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > OPTIONS="--create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir -s ~/log/mail.log" spamd is a system service and it normally (initially) runs as root, so using a ~ there probably isn't what you want. Storing logs from such a

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 March 2021 15:13:06 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 02:52:05PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > adding this "-s ~/gene/log/mail.log" inside the option "double quote > > pair"> and issueing an /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart, didn't > > bother it a bit. > > > > The way

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 02:52:05PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > adding this "-s ~/gene/log/mail.log" inside the option "double quote > pair"> and issueing an /etc/init.d/spamassassin restart, didn't bother > it a bit. > > The way I read that manpage, it should have worked. First: do you

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 March 2021 07:13:38 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Gene, > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:25:20PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What file, and where, do I edit to put that log someplace else? > > What's unclear or not working about the --syslog= option in "man > spamd"? > >

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
le you do > redirect this to. I expect that a given, giving how verbose its logging is, over 10 lines of drivel for every incoming message. I'll take a look there, thanks Andy. > Cheers, > Andy Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap,

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
now anything about this but this guy says that he had a typo > ( incorrect file name ) to logrotate caused syslog to fill up. > https://serverfault.com/questions/842082/spamassassin-logging > > mick Thats workiing fine here mick, thanks anyway. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 11:25:20PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > What file, and where, do I edit to put that log someplace else? What's unclear or not working about the --syslog= option in "man spamd"? https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/spamassassin/spamd.8p.en.html You can change

Re: Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-12 Thread mick crane
edit to put that log someplace else? System is updodate amd64 stretch. Cheers, Gene Heskett hello, I don't know anything about this but this guy says that he had a typo ( incorrect file name ) to logrotate caused syslog to fill up. https://serverfault.com/questions/842082/spamassassin-logging

Where can I change spamd logging?

2021-03-12 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Somehow, spamd and friends have gotten the idea that they can spam the syslog to the point where logrotate fires off at least daily, putting so much trash in the syslog it worthless as a troubleshooting tool. What file, and where, do I edit to put that log someplace else?

Systemd logging stopped (SOLVED)

2020-02-04 Thread Frank McCormick
I have since rebooted to a shutdown and logging is back. I don't know why simple reboots didn't solve the problem but it's solved now. -- Frank McCormick

More info on systemd logging fail

2020-02-04 Thread Frank McCormick
Looking at dmesg I see a bunch of lines like this: Stopping User Runtime Directory /run/user/118... [ 55.241395] systemd[897]: user-runtime-dir@118.service: Failed to connect stdout to the journal socket, ignoring: Connection refused [ 55.249255] systemd[1]: run-user-118.mount: Succeeded.

Re: systemd logging stopped

2020-02-04 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/4/20 11:30 AM, john doe wrote: On 2/4/2020 4:56 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a  log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find

Re: systemd logging stopped

2020-02-04 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/4/20 11:31 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/4/20 7:56 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a  log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't

Re: systemd logging stopped

2020-02-04 Thread john doe
On 2/4/2020 4:56 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. > There is a  log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. > I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging > but I can't find it. > I am run

Re: systemd logging stopped

2020-02-04 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 2/4/20 7:56 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a  log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find it. I am running Debian Sid fully

systemd logging stopped

2020-02-04 Thread Frank McCormick
Noticed this morning that systemd is no longer logging boots on my machine. There is a log in /var/log/journal, but it's from yesterday. I seem to recall a message here about a change in logging but I can't find it. I am running Debian Sid fully updated. Can anyone help? -- Frank McCormick

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