Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 06:21:56PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Supposedly, one can install/upgrade to Buster while maintaining sysv > as init.  Or has this changed.  Over the past several months I have > been attempting to upgrade to Buster, but I have been completely > unsuccessful. > > Has

RE: ifup && iptables error

2020-03-23 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, [] > Right, your basic problem is that your interfaces are now names > enp7s0 > and > wlp6s0 > > not eth0 and wifi0 or whatever they used to be. > > Fix them in /etc/network/interfaces, double check your iptables rules > are either using the new names or don't mention interfaces at all,

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-03-22 21:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-03-22 at 21:21, Marc Shapiro wrote: > >> Supposedly, one can install/upgrade to Buster while maintaining sysv >> as init. Or has this changed. Over the past several months I have >> been attempting to upgrade to Buster, but I have been

Le seul livre disponible en français sur le site de Debian est un livre sur Debian 8

2020-03-23 Thread Hamdy Abou El Anein
Bonjour, Le seul livre disponible sur le site de Debian est sur Debian 8. https://www.debian.org/doc/books.fr.html#french Je vous propose de le remplacer par cet ouvrage : Le guide complet de Linux Debian 10 Buster.

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Renato Gallo
linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want to do it ? - Messaggio originale - Da: "Felix Miata" A: "debian-user" Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 8:08:28 Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd? Marc Shapiro composed on 2020-03-22 18:21 (UTC-0700): >

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 09:57:36PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-03-22 at 21:21, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > [...] Then I realized that I > > had only done an "upgrade" but not a "full-upgrade". After that, X > > would not start [...] > How are you starting X? > > I start it manually

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-22 17:37, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501". In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Felix Miata
Marc Shapiro composed on 2020-03-22 18:21 (UTC-0700): > after 21 to 22 years of using > Debian (since Bo), do I have to switch to another linux distro? AFAIK, no one has ever died as a consequence of using an OS with systemd. So, no, you don't "have to" switch to another distro. You can do as

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Reco
Please do not top post. Reply to the list. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 09:59:25AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote: > > > Rly, systemd is, between things, a way to be sure when and after what > something starts isn't it ? Does not make it any special, in comparing to any other init system in existence.

Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation

2020-03-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 21:10:48 +0100 Bernd Gruber wrote: Hello Bernd, >Brad Rogers wrote: > >> Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon >have you looked this up, I find it several times on ddg. Briefly, but didn't pursue it, before I took myself down a blind alley. I've not got time to look

Re: Pulseaudio

2020-03-23 Thread Fabien R
On 21/03/2020 18:23, ajh-valmer wrote: > Bonjour, > > J'ai installé Pulseaudio, mais je n'arrive pas à "l'incruster". Sous xfce, j'utilise xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin qui me donne accès à pavucontrol. Tu dois avoir un équivalent sous KDE. -- Fabien

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote: > > linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want > to do it ? I think we've had enough of this already. See, Marc? Cheers -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato Gallo wrote: > > linux without systemd = race condition risks = why in hell anyone would want > to do it ? . Rly? Reco

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Renato Gallo
Rly, systemd is, between things, a way to be sure when and after what something starts isn't it ? - Messaggio originale - Da: "Reco" A: "debian-user" Inviato: Lunedì, 23 marzo 2020 9:27:29 Oggetto: Re: Buster without systemd? Hi. On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:48:57AM +0100, Renato

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. That system maintained sysv and still has support. #!/usr/bin/env bash # file: getdevuan.sh - get devuan iso. wget -bc http://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/minimal-live/devuan_ascii_2.1_amd64_minimal-live.iso On Sun, 22 Mar

Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation

2020-03-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:51:53 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >A standard[1] Debian install "requires[2] networking only for >(security) updates. Thanks for the info, Andrei. A classic case of "a little knowledge" My little knowledge, of course. -- Regards _ / )

Re: Résolution OpenVPN

2020-03-23 Thread Sil
Le 19/03/2020 à 16:15, Guillaume Clercin a écrit : Il est possible, pour le client, d'utiliser un serveur dns qui se trouve de coté du serveur. Dans la configuration du service openvpn, tu peut ajouter: push "dhcp-option DNS " et éventuellement push "dhcp-option DOMAIN " À noter que, une fois

Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation

2020-03-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 22 mar 20, 14:43:37, Brad Rogers wrote: > Hello, > > For the first time, I'm having problems installing Debian testing on new > hardware; > > Asus TUF X570 Plus mobo with onboard Realtek network L8200A i/f > > As things stand, it /seems/ that the boot process is waiting for the > network

Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation

2020-03-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 23 mar 20, 10:47:14, Brad Rogers wrote: > > TBH, I wasn't sure. Certain things require networking availability, so > that got me thinking. Anyhow, that turned out to be a blind alley. A standard[1] Debian install "requires[2] networking only for (security) updates. [1] i.e. something

Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-23 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 23, 2020 02:27:17 AM David Christensen wrote: > The 187 MB/s is a worst-case scenario for FHD video -- decode on the CPU > and send uncompressed frames over USB 3.0 to the video RAM in the > docking station. Hopefully Debian, Linux, Xorg, whatever, have the > architecture and

Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation

2020-03-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 12:26:05 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >In the default install the display manager does not wait for networking >(why should it?), your problem is most likely elsewhere. TBH, I wasn't sure. Certain things require networking availability, so that got me

Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501

2020-03-23 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 23, 2020 01:42:40 AM David Christensen wrote: > If I am reading the user manual for my E1505 and the Intel ICH7 > datasheet correctly, the ExpressCard port in my laptop should be PCIe 1x > at 2.5 Gbps. I would expect your E1501 to be equivalent (?). I bought it used, don't have

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 08:37:47AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. > That system maintained sysv and still has support. Going by [1], I'd guess Devuan ASCII is roughly Debian Stretch. More knowledgeable statements always welcome,

Re: problemas con impresora Epson L 3110

2020-03-23 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
On 21/3/20 15:21, JavierDebian wrote: El 21/3/20 a las 12:50, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: hola amigos. Al instalar la Epson L3110 con un dpkg nombredelinstalador.deb me sale el siguiente error    epson-inkjet-printer-escpr depende de lsb (>= 3.2); sin embargo:     El paquete `lsb'

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:28:25AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. > > That system maintained sysv and still has support. > > ASCII is Stretch without systemd or

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Michael Howard
On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 Jude DaShiell wrote: There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. That system maintained sysv and still has support. ASCII is Stretch without systemd or any of the dependencies. Devuan

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 Jude DaShiell wrote: > There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. > That system maintained sysv and still has support. ASCII is Stretch without systemd or any of the dependencies. Devuan hasn't release its "Buster" version yet. B

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Michael Howard
On 23/03/2020 16:31, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote: On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 Jude DaShiell wrote: I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, there's been enough of

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote: > > On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 > > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > > > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, > there's been

Re: Le seul livre disponible en français sur le site de Debian est un livre sur Debian 8

2020-03-23 Thread fw
Idée très bonne, mais peux-tu conserver les 2 versions, au cas ou qqun aurais un besoin spécifique de la V8 ? Cordialement

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote: On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 Jude DaShiell wrote: I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid

Re: Falha no Boot - Positivo Mobo S7 (Programa UCA)

2020-03-23 Thread Leandro Pereira
lá no site da positivo, na parte de drivers, tem um opção para digitar o número de série do equipamento para acessar os downloads e outras informações. Já tentou verificar la? Leandro L. Pereira Em dom., 22 de mar. de 2020 às 16:23, osvaldo luciano Santos escreveu: > > Olá pessoal! > > Leandro,

Re: problemas con impresora Epson L 3110

2020-03-23 Thread Juan Lavieri
El 23/3/2020 a las 11:03 a. m., Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: On 21/3/20 15:21, JavierDebian wrote: El 21/3/20 a las 12:50, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: hola amigos. Al instalar la Epson L3110 con un dpkg nombredelinstalador.deb me sale el siguiente error    

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread tomas
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote: > >On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 > >>Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> > > > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to

Re: problemas con impresora Epson L 3110

2020-03-23 Thread Francisco Cid
El lun., 23 mar. 2020 a las 13:08, Juan Lavieri () escribió: > > > El 23/3/2020 a las 11:03 a. m., Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: > > > > On 21/3/20 15:21, JavierDebian wrote: > >> > >> > >> El 21/3/20 a las 12:50, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió: > >>> hola amigos. Al instalar la Epson

Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread F. Dubois
Bonjour à toutes et tous. Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la connexion sur mon espace Orange est impossible. Le service a rencontré un problème réseau, veuillez réessayer. Telle est la réponse lorsque je clique sur S'identifier. Quelques

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, > there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of > systemd? Well, there seem to be several reasons. In no particular order:

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > [...] > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, > there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of > systemd? > Who said "Jehovah"? > I have used it since the

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread Klaus Becker
Le 23/03/2020 à 17:52, F. Dubois a écrit : Bonjour à toutes et tous. Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la connexion sur mon espace Orange est impossible. Le service a rencontré un problème réseau, veuillez réessayer. Telle est la réponse lorsque je

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread NoSpam
Le 23/03/2020 à 17:52, F. Dubois a écrit : Bonjour à toutes et tous. Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la connexion sur mon espace Orange est impossible. Le service a rencontré un problème réseau, veuillez réessayer. Telle est la réponse lorsque

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Dan Ritter
Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:31:33PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > I ask the question in all innocence, purely to understand whypeople seem to > > want to jump through hoops to avoid it. > > > > Maybe lack of self medication? > Duck... Not only was that not

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:48 PM Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the > list, there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so > afraid of systemd? > I consider myself Neutral on the subject, actually wanting to educate

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread Klaus Becker
Le 23/03/2020 à 19:40, F. Dubois a écrit : Le 23/03/2020 à 19:23, NoSpam a écrit : Bonjour, vider le cache et virer les cookies, tester avec un autre butineur. -- Daniel Bonsoir, c'est fait. De plus les extensions installées font le vide au minimum à chaque redémarrage. Et rien n'y

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Kamil Jońca
Tony van der Hoff writes: > On 23/03/2020 15:15, Michael Howard wrote: >> On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 >>> Jude DaShiell wrote: >>> > > > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the > list, there's been enough of

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread contact
Bonsoir, moi j'y suis allé hier sans problème dans mon espace perso avec Firefox 74 François-Marie BILLARD Le 23/03/2020 à 18:36, Klaus Becker a écrit : Le 23/03/2020 à 17:52, F. Dubois a écrit : Bonjour à toutes et tous. Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la

Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501

2020-03-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-03-23 03:43, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 23, 2020 01:42:40 AM David Christensen wrote: If I am reading the user manual for my E1505 and the Intel ICH7 datasheet correctly, the ExpressCard port in my laptop should be PCIe 1x at 2.5 Gbps. I would expect your E1501 to be

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread F. Dubois
Le 23/03/2020 à 19:23, NoSpam a écrit : Bonjour, vider le cache et virer les cookies, tester avec un autre butineur. -- Daniel Bonsoir, c'est fait. De plus les extensions installées font le vide au minimum à chaque redémarrage. Et rien n'y change. Comme dit dans d'autres messages, le

Re: Pulseaudio

2020-03-23 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, 21 mars 2020 18:23 "ajh-valmer" a écrit: > Je tape aussi "dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio". Ça ne devrait pas faire grand-chose car pulseaudio ne se lance pas comme démon système (c'est déconseillé upstream). > Je dois fermer puis réouvrir ma session graphique pour avoir enfin >

Re: Pulseaudio

2020-03-23 Thread ajh-valmer
On Monday 23 March 2020 19:50:29 Sébastien NOBILI wrote: > 21 mars 2020 18:23 "ajh-valmer" a écrit: > > Je tape aussi "dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio". > > Ça ne devrait pas faire grand-chose car pulseaudio ne se lance pas comme > démon système (c'est déconseillé upstream). > > Je dois fermer puis

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread ajh-valmer
On Monday 23 March 2020 17:52:14 F. Dubois wrote: > Bonjour à toutes et tous. > Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la > connexion sur mon espace Orange est impossible. Est la raison ? : Notre secrétaire d'état au numérique demande de ne pas trop pratiquer Internet,

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Joe
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need systemd's >tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem diagnostics >much more difficult. > You might add 5a): Why? There's not exactly a burning need

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, > there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of > systemd? My reasons: Can't debug the start / stop of daemons as good as before. "(ba)sh -x" no more working. Not

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 March 2020 15:16:33 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need > > systemd's tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem > > diagnostics much more difficult. > > You might add

logrotate

2020-03-23 Thread Stefan van der Veen
Hallo Debian gebruikers, Weet iemand of er iets bestaat zoals https://crontab.guru, maar dan een website waarop je eenvoudig een logrotate script kunt maken of bij elkaar kunt klikken? Met vriendelijke groeten, Stefan

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > That which I have managed to get my head wrapped around, do seem to be a > better idea. But thats far from all of it at the present time. For > starters, lets say you know you are having a dhcpd problem, so you go > read man dhcpd,

Re: Doublets cartes/sorties

2020-03-23 Thread Étienne Mollier
Pierre ESTREM, on 2020-03-22 23:34:28 +0100: > Je tente des tests de profiles de cartes son et j'ai besoin de les stocker > sous forme de tableau comme ceci : > > carte1 sortie1 > carte1 sortie2 > carte1 sortie3 > carte2 sortie1 > carte2 sortie2 > carte3 sortie1 > > Je fais ceci : > > pacmd

Re: Identification orange.fr

2020-03-23 Thread NoSpam
Le 23/03/2020 à 20:07, ajh-valmer a écrit : On Monday 23 March 2020 17:52:14 F. Dubois wrote: Bonjour à toutes et tous. Depuis quelques jours, et à priori sans intervention de ma part, la connexion sur mon espace Orange est impossible. Est la raison ? : Notre secrétaire d'état au numérique

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > That along would ease the transition, and reduce the the systemd hate and > discontent on ALL of these lists.  And justify the reason for the > individual change. None of us like being kept in the dark. Absolutely agree with this. It took me about an year to read myself in

Re: Doublets cartes/sorties

2020-03-23 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonsoir Etienne et le monde libre... Aïe, il y a des chevrons qui encadrent le nom des cartes. J'ai des erreurs avec ton code, mais je vous remercie de votre participation. J'ai une horreur de 'awk' (c'est ma faute). J'ai avancé avec la solution sed mais je dois passer ensuite par des

Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501

2020-03-23 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 23, 2020 02:20:19 PM David Christensen wrote: > The first link is: > > https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_laptop/esuprt_inspir > on_laptop/inspiron-1501_owner%27s%20manual_en-us.pdf Thanks, that worked. > Was your laptop originally sold in Finland? Not as

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Toni Mas
I did. I just did not use "full-upgrade" option. I upgraded package by package resolving all dependencies and I had to install elogind but it is not needed to start X system. It was just for dependencies. Please, could you explain the race of conditions risk race? Thanks. Toni Mas Missatge de

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:15:14 + Michael Howard wrote: > On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 > > Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > >> There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. > >> That system maintained sysv and still has

Re: Doublets cartes/sorties

2020-03-23 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonsoir, C'est OK avec sed et 2 for : #!/bin/bash tab=(`pacmd list-cards | sed -n 's/^\tname: <\(.*\)>$/\1/p; s/^\t\+output:\([^:]\+\).*$/    \1/p'`) Nombre d'éléments du tableau tab Dim=${#tab[@]} Première boucle cherchant le nom d'une carte for ((i=0; i<$Dim ; i++)) do    

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

2020-03-23 Thread Vincent Lammens
Hi Rick You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all kinds of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and has a few plugins to add webdav for example. --- Regards Vincent Lammens

Re: Doublets cartes/sorties

2020-03-23 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonsoir, > pacmd list-cards | awk '/^\tname: <.*>$/{split($0,n,"^\tname: <|>$");}/^\t+output:/{split($0,o,":");printf "%-31s %-s\n",n[2],o[2]}' J'utilise une base Debian Jessie et très exactement AccessDV Linux puisque je suis DV (déficient visuel). Le code dessus fonctionne et me renvoie

Re: exemple de ~/.pgpass qui marche (PostGreSQL/Debian/Buster) - et aide souhaitée en OpenStreetMap.

2020-03-23 Thread Yves Rutschle
Hello, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > S'il y a des gens pour m'aider sur https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid ils > sont bienvenus. Mais en anglais s'il vous plait, le contributeur le plus > actif étant indien. J'ai perdu le mail où tu annonces ton

Re: Re: buster, ekiga.

2020-03-23 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 18:03 -0800, Ernesto Alfonso wrote: > I was able to use linphone, which is available in buster. > > Ernesto Linphone is also available from a Flatpak. The newer version is much better than the one in the Debian main repository.

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 March 2020 16:34:22 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That which I have managed to get my head wrapped around, do seem to > > be a better idea. But thats far from all of it at the present time. > > For starters, lets say you know

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 19:51:18 +0100 kjo...@fastmail.com (Kamil Jońca) wrote: > Well. I am quite happy when systemd start to govern > services/daemons. Good for you. I don't suppose you use gpsd under systemd. The gpsd maintainers hate systemd with a passion because systemd makes assumptions

installing with Flatpak

2020-03-23 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
hello, I would like to ask if there are any drawbacks in installing software using Flatpak. As far as I understand, this installation method installs packages in an isolated way (whatever that means). I would imagine this would require more disk space. But will performance of the software be

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread Michael Howard
On 23/03/2020 23:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:15:14 + Michael Howard wrote: On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 Jude DaShiell wrote: There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. That system

Re: Falha no Boot - Positivo Mobo S7 (Programa UCA)

2020-03-23 Thread osvaldo luciano Santos
Salve Leandro! De repente uma luz... ainda não tinha usado esse caminho! Eu tinha acessado uma outra página com a lista de suportes para vários produtos. Usei o seu caminho, mas também só há pequenas correções para o Mandriva Mini, nada para BIOS! Muito obrigado, mesmo assim! Abraço, Osvaldo Em

How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

2020-03-23 Thread Anastasios Lisgaras
Hello, My update/upgrade system script is about that : sudo apt update && sudo apt list --upgradable -a && sudo apt dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt autoclean -y && sudo apt clean -y But I want for *each* package that has an update available, before I update it to see its

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Mar 2020 at 20:27:31 (+0100), Klaus Singvogel wrote: > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > I know it's a sensitive subject, and I really don't want to upset the list, > > there's been enough of that already, but why are some people so afraid of > > systemd? > > My reasons: […] > Logging

NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

2020-03-23 Thread Rick Thomas
The covid-19 situation is giving me lots of free time recently, so I've ordered a Raspberry Pi 4 with delivery expected sometime this week. I'd like to use it for a NAS for the home network, so my family can share files without resorting to sneaker-net. We have a full range of clients -- Mac,

Re: Doublets cartes/sorties

2020-03-23 Thread Étienne Mollier
Pierre ESTREM, on 2020-03-23 22:15:20 +0100: > Aïe, il y a des chevrons qui encadrent le nom des cartes. > J'ai des erreurs avec ton code, mais je vous remercie de votre > participation. Quelles erreurs se produisent exactement ? Et sur quelle version de Debian ? J'ai vérifié avec ma

Installing Debiam

2020-03-23 Thread Chocolate Island Prince
This information is wowfactor 10! I never knew any of this. I have a an old but in excellent condition a Sony Vaio and a 16 years old Macbook. 1. Sony has no OS . I would like a good system installed. So What do uou suggest n how can I down load ? Should I use usb stick? 2. Macbook it has OS

Re: How can I see only the latest change log of packages before update ?

2020-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Tue 24 Mar 2020 at 00:35:39 (+0200), Anastasios Lisgaras wrote: > > My update/upgrade system script is about that : > sudo apt update && sudo apt list --upgradable -a && sudo apt > dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt autoclean -y && > sudo apt clean -y > > But I want for

Re: Buster without systemd?

2020-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Mar 2020 at 19:16:33 (+), Joe wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:15:13 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 5) It does not write logs in human-readable files. You need systemd's > >tools to read systemd's logs. This makes post mortem diagnostics > >much more difficult. > > You

Re: NAS software for Raspberry Pi that supports full range of client OS (Win-10, MacOS-X, Linux) ?

2020-03-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700 "Rick Thomas" wrote: > Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable, > but almost any Linux will do. I find a combination of plain vanilla Samba and nextcloud do me quite well. -- Does anybody read signatures any more?