Re: AW: Panic again any idea IV

2023-10-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 01:51:11PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon > I do ask for one year at many places also computer shops > but there is still panic during booting . > > Somebody here who has an idea > where else I can ask? > > Regards > Thank You > Sophie Hi Sophie,

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:01:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 24/10/2023 12:18, tom kronmiller wrote: > > so I unbuffered stdin and that seemed to make it happy. > > It might be performance killer. Even fflush(NULL) before fork() may be > better. > >

How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Martin
Hello, With wifi antena I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antena booster (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) to get usable signal. So my computer have internet signal from wifi antena - yay great thing :) Now

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 01:21:04PM -0400, Pocket wrote: > > > > > Of course, by default it tries to get configuration from a DHCP server. > > A connection with a static address may be created even from GUI. > > > > There was a thread several months ago with discussion of link local > >

How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Martin
Hello, With wifi antena I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antena booster (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) to get usable signal. So my computer have internet signal from wifi antena - yay great thing :) Now

How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Martin
Hello, With wifi antena I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antena booster (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) to get usable signal. So my computer have internet signal from wifi antena - yay great thing :) Now

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread gene heskett
On 10/24/23 13:21, Pocket wrote: On 10/24/23 12:48, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the 169 block if it cannot find a dns server, [...] IF I can

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread Jon Leonard
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 03:19:43PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:01:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 24/10/2023 12:18, tom kronmiller wrote: > > > so I unbuffered stdin and that seemed to make it happy. > > > > It might be performance killer. Even fflush(NULL)

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/10/2023 02:19, Greg Wooledge wrote: At this point I still don't know *why* glibc rewinds stdin intermittently on exit(). Consider a parent process that reads some file. When a specific keyword appears there, it should start a child that parses the same file till another keyword. When

Re: Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card

2023-10-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 17:12:41 + Message-id: <[] ztf7cq23nikqt...@einval.com> In-reply-to: <[] CAEG4cZW87bzq6SMO0HPJAfh+UcgJFEJ=jo6ahbrwecp22yb...@mail.gmail.com> References: <[]

How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Martin
Hello, With wifi antena I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antena booster (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) to get usable signal. So my computer have internet signal from wifi antena - yay great thing :) Now

Re: How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 06:15:00AM +0200, Martin wrote: > Hello, > snip > > I tried lot of setup and none worked. And also missed https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00684.html and https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00685.html and

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread John Conover
Greg Wooledge writes: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:01:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > At this point, we can conclude that the bug is in fact in the OP's C > program. The underlying C compiler, C library, and Linux kernel are > all behaving within specs. > > At this point I still don't know

How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Fero Dali
Hello, With wifi antenna I receive a (rather weak) signal that connect my computer to internet. I have to use windsurfer antenna booster (http://members.multiweb.nl/schaaijw/windsurfer_wifi_en.pdf) to get usable signal. So my computer have internet signal from wifi antenna - yay great thing :)

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, October 24th, 2023 at 7:47 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 12:06:05 (+0200), Christian Groessler wrote: > > > On 10/23/23 07:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > Just register a

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Max, On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 11:48:35PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > There was a thread several months ago with discussion of link local > 169.254.x.y addresses. $ notmuch count 'from:ghesk...@shentel.net (body:"169.254" or body:"avahi")' 110 i.e. in the last 4 years I have 110 emails from

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread David Wright
On Tue 24 Oct 2023 at 13:21:04 (-0400), Pocket wrote: > On 10/24/23 12:48, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: > > > My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. > > > > > > NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the > > > 169 block if

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread David Wright
On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 12:06:05 (+0200), Christian Groessler wrote: > On 10/23/23 07:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:24 AM ghe2001 wrote: > > > > > > How about a /29 or so, named "here.", hosts named 2 or 3 > > > letter abbreviations of what you call the computers, with

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 03:19:43PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > This has been a most educational thread. Absolutely. Thanks to all :) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Marco M.
Am 25.10.2023 um 06:15:00 Uhr schrieb Martin: > As it turn out I am not so bright to make this whole setup working :( > I pluged in new router to power and connected ethernet cable from my > computer to router WAN connection. (I belive this is how it should be > connected togheder) Please

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread tom kronmiller
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 1:35 AM tom kronmiller wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 12:02 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > >> On 24/10/2023 12:18, tom kronmiller wrote: >> > so I unbuffered stdin and that seemed to make it happy. >> It might be performance killer. Even fflush(NULL) before fork() may be >>

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Marco M.
Am 25.10.2023 um 03:40:46 Uhr schrieb ghe2001: > TLD '.lan' works. As best I can tell on the web, it doesn't exist. Is it intended for that? No? Then don't use it. It can be used in the future for public domains.

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread tom kronmiller
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 12:02 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 24/10/2023 12:18, tom kronmiller wrote: > > so I unbuffered stdin and that seemed to make it happy. > It might be performance killer. Even fflush(NULL) before fork() may be > better. > In the real program in question, it hardly matters.

Re: How do I connect my new wifi router (Mi Router 4C)?

2023-10-24 Thread Martin
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 06:52:09AM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 06:15:00AM +0200, Martin wrote: > > I tried lot of setup and none worked. > > And also missed https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00684.html > and

Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card

2023-10-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
My dear illustrious Team Leaders and Senior Members, Debian-User group, debian-user@lists.debian.org I rephrase my earlier question posted at: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00452.html which didn't receive an insightful reply or guidance. Yes, Mr. Cater did advise on B43 series

Re: Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris adjust brightness, get Fn-Keys working

2023-10-24 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2023-10-24 at 09:32 +0200, basti wrote: > > OK, I can write the values ​​to > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness > > The default is 15040, which seems to be the maximum. > Nothing visible changes between 15040 and 13000. > 60 is very dark. > It therefore looks like an

Re: Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris adjust brightness, get Fn-Keys working

2023-10-24 Thread tomas
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 09:32:24AM +0200, basti wrote: > > > On 24.10.23 06:18, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 20:03:50 (+0200), basti wrote: > > > I have a Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris and try to adjust brightness > > > via Fn-Keys. > > > All other Fn-Keys are working. [...]

Re: Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris adjust brightness, get Fn-Keys working

2023-10-24 Thread basti
On 24.10.23 06:18, David Wright wrote: On Mon 23 Oct 2023 at 20:03:50 (+0200), basti wrote: I have a Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris and try to adjust brightness via Fn-Keys. All other Fn-Keys are working. basti@thinkpad:~$ xbacklight -set 50 No outputs have backlight property I also try

Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace the "

2023-10-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
My dear illustrious Group Leaders and Senior Members, Debian-User group, debian-user@lists.debian.org May please my present query be raed in the light of the post: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00649.html I need links to cards approved to be the best compatible with the Debian

Re: linux-image-amd64: kernel fails to find all nvme SSDs

2023-10-24 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
Supermicro provided a workaround: boot with the kernel command line parameter pci=realloc=off. As an side, Rocky 9.2 does not have this issue even though it boots without that kernel command line parameter. Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t

2023-10-24 Thread Dan Purgert
On Oct 24, 2023, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > [...] > -Product- > Name : HP Notebook (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com) > Family: 103C_5335KV G=N L=CON B=HP (Hewlett-Packard, > www.hp.com) > Vendor: Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com) > HP are generally

Re: Lenovo E16 Gen1 with Intel Iris adjust brightness, get Fn-Keys working

2023-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 08:54:35AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > step=200 > curval=`cat $device/brightness` > newval=`echo $(expr $curval - $step)` Just FYI, all POSIX compatible shells can do integer arithmetic without calling expr(1). newval=$((curval - step)) Also, assuming

Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
Hi list, Completely stuck here, any clue appreciated! Trying to bring up XRDP service on Debian 11-bullsyeye (arm64, incl. backports, fully up-to-date) which is only listening on „lo“ interface (not eth0) even netstat indicates otherwise: -> incoming tcp syn/ack on localhost interfact (lo)

Re: Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card

2023-10-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 02:01:21PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear illustrious Team Leaders and Senior Members, Debian-User > group, debian-user@lists.debian.org > > I rephrase my earlier question posted at: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00452.html > which didn't receive

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Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Henggi wrote: > > > On 24 Oct 2023, at 14:46, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > - when using „port=tcp://:3389“ in xrdp.ini: > root@server:~# ss -tlnp | grep 3389 > LISTEN 0 2 0.0.0.0:3389 0.0.0.0:* > users:(("xrdp",pid=96436,fd=11)) > > - when using using „port=3389“ in

[Solved] Re: Can't upgrade my desktop

2023-10-24 Thread rudu
Le 24/10/2023 à 05:17, Max Nikulin a écrit : On 24/10/2023 06:53, Jeffrey Walton wrote: $ grep -iIR -E 'bookworm|bullseye|buster|stretch|jessie'  /etc/apt may list additional suspects, especially if they are hidden away in /etc/apt/sources.list.d. I would prefer either     apt policy

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

2023-10-24 Thread Itay
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023, at 20:36, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 22 Oct 2023 10:32 -0700, from dalgoda+deb...@gmail.com > (Mike Castle): >> rsync supports hardlinks. >> >> --hard-links, -H preserve hard links > > It does, but on the other hand it's very

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

2023-10-24 Thread Itay
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023, at 20:38, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 22 Oct 2023 17:40 +0300, from deb...@itayf.fastmail.fm (Itay): >> The sync must be bidirectional and *respect hardlinks* because many >> subdirs are kept under the control of darcs[1] which by default uses >> hardlinks. The sync tool I

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Henggi, all, Am 24.10.2023 um 14:04 schrieb Henggi: Hi list, Completely stuck here, any clue appreciated! Trying to bring up XRDP service on Debian 11-bullsyeye (arm64, incl. backports, fully up-to-date) which is only listening on „lo“ interface (not eth0) even netstat indicates

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

2023-10-24 Thread Itay
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023, at 20:32, Mike Castle wrote: > rsync supports hardlinks. > > --hard-links, -H preserve hard links > Yes. This is what I use for unidirectional syncing. > Though, in general, the purpose of something like darcs is to > *provide* the syncing. > True. But my home

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

2023-10-24 Thread Itay
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023, at 21:10, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 17:40:43 +0300 > Itay wrote: > >> According to wikipedia[4] the following tools are bidirectional: >> FreeFileSync / NextCloud / Owncloud / SyncThing >> Please -- can someone quickly tell me if they respect

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/10/2023 19:04, Henggi wrote: - iptables on server are cleared/open (firewalld or other firewall frameworks are not used/installed). Nowadays nft or iptables is not the only option to drop packets. Another one is eBPF used e.g. by systemd. I have the following link in my notes, but I

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Dan Ritter
Henggi wrote: > Hi list, > > Completely stuck here, any clue appreciated! > > — by default xrdp.ini listening config is set to "port=3389“ (which is > expected to listen on ipv4 && ipv6 in parallel as I understand). However > using that seems only to listen on tcp4 according to „netstat“ > —

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 14:46, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Henggi wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> Completely stuck here, any clue appreciated! >> >> — by default xrdp.ini listening config is set to "port=3389“ (which is >> expected to listen on ipv4 && ipv6 in parallel as I understand). However >> using

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 15:14, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Henggi wrote: >> >>> On 24 Oct 2023, at 14:46, Dan Ritter wrote: >>> >> - when using „port=tcp://:3389“ in xrdp.ini: >> root@server:~# ss -tlnp | grep 3389 >> LISTEN 0 2 0.0.0.0:3389 0.0.0.0:* >>

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 15:30:14 +0200 Arno Lehmann wrote: > Recently I encountered something similar, and my usual test for local > firewall being active, > > iptables -L -n > > came back with policies "accept" all over the place, and no > particular rules. > > Took me a while to understand

AW: Panic again any idea IV

2023-10-24 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon I do ask for one year at many places also computer shops but there is still panic during booting . Somebody here who has an idea where else I can ask? Regards Thank You Sophie

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 15:30, Arno Lehmann wrote: > > Hi Henggi, all, Hi Arno, thanks for your reply! > > Am 24.10.2023 um 14:04 schrieb Henggi: >> Hi list, >> Completely stuck here, any clue appreciated! >> Trying to bring up XRDP service on Debian 11-bullsyeye (arm64, incl. >> backports,

Re: Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace t

2023-10-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: Dan Purgert Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:45:13 -0400 Message-id: <[] zteuscplhkmsy...@framework.djph.net> In-reply-to: <[] zteuscplhkmsy...@framework.djph.net> Thank you, Mr. Purgert, for replying to my message. This self-annihilating proprietary ecosystem needs to crumble down. I agree

Re: Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card

2023-10-24 Thread Susmita/Rajib
From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:50:48 + Message-id: <[] ztehic-dyzpii...@einval.com> In-reply-to: <[] caeg4czxgp3wqszgsps5erwcvxyf1wdm-mjnbx+ehvybqrr-...@mail.gmail.com> Dear Mr. Cater, Once again, thank you for your post. But Mr. Cater, I would have to request you to

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

2023-10-24 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 17:14:21 +0300 Itay wrote: > > Though, in general, the purpose of something like darcs is to > > *provide* the syncing. > > > > True. But my home dir includes many subdirs that are not under darcs > control. Then perhaps you should consider what I do. I put stuff under

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, Am 24.10.2023 um 16:19 schrieb Henggi: ... As I mentioned in my 1st email, I think (afaik) that no other netfitler module/service is running. My anecdote was intended to illustrate that beliefs are not really good tools to diagnose problems ;-) root@server:~# systemctl status

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 17:22, Charles Curley > wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 15:30:14 +0200 > Arno Lehmann wrote: > >> Recently I encountered something similar, and my usual test for local >> firewall being active, >> >> iptables -L -n >> >> came back with policies "accept" all over the

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

2023-10-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/10/2023 12:18, tom kronmiller wrote: so I unbuffered stdin and that seemed to make it happy. It might be performance killer. Even fflush(NULL) before fork() may be better. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50110992/why-does-forking-my-process-cause-the-file-to-be-read-infinitely

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 16:33, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 24/10/2023 19:04, Henggi wrote: >> - iptables on server are cleared/open (firewalld or other firewall >> frameworks are not used/installed). > > Nowadays nft or iptables is not the only option to drop packets. Another one > is eBPF used

Re: Network tcp/iptables issue with XRDP

2023-10-24 Thread Henggi
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 17:36, Arno Lehmann wrote: > > Hello, Hi Arno, > > Am 24.10.2023 um 16:19 schrieb Henggi: > ... >> As I mentioned in my 1st email, I think (afaik) that no other netfitler >> module/service is running. > > My anecdote was intended to illustrate that beliefs are not

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the 169 block if it cannot find a dns server, [...] IF I can prevent NM and avahi from assigning a totally bogus 169. route, it just

Re: Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card

2023-10-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 08:19:03PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:50:48 + > Message-id: <[] ztehic-dyzpii...@einval.com> > In-reply-to: <[] > caeg4czxgp3wqszgsps5erwcvxyf1wdm-mjnbx+ehvybqrr-...@mail.gmail.com> > > Dear Mr. Cater, > >

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-24 Thread Pocket
On 10/24/23 12:48, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2023 23:29, gene heskett wrote: My whole home net has no dhcp server, host files do it all. NM, and avahi, seems to want to assign a default route in the 169 block if it cannot find a dns server, [...] IF I can prevent NM and avahi from