Re: Soporte para sonido

1999-08-01 Thread Cosme Perea Cuevas
El Mon, Jul 19, 1999,
Marcelo Ramos...

 Tengo  una  duda:   como  se  hace  para   tener  sonido  en
 Linux. Tengo Debian  2.0 (Hamm). Instalé un  paquete llamado
 cdtool que  sirve para reproducir  CDs de música  y funciona
 perfectamente.  O  sea que si  se reproduce un CD  de música
 está usando la  tarjeta de sonido. Pero por  otro lado todos
 los juegos que tienen sonido  me reportan que no hay soporte
 para sonido.

El kernel debe estar compilado  con soporte para tu targeta de
sonido, y normalmente el kernel que se instala inicialmente no
lo lleva. Deberás leer el  Sonido-COMO, Kernel-COMO, además de
instalar el paquete `isapnptools'.

Si no  tienes claro que és  el kernel, cuando te  pases por la
web de LuCAS para conseguir los HOWTO traducidos sobre el tema
también puedes bajarte algún  documento sobre generalidades de
Linux, que te aclararían estas cosas.

La URL en mi firma.

Saludos.

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apt frustration

1999-08-01 Thread formasic
Folks,

I run a little home office network.  Most of it is stable, slink at
the moment, but I like to keep some stuff really leading edge (Java,
DocBook/Jade, egcs c).

A simple way to do this would SEEM to be to use apt/deity.

It'd be great to be able to say: keep everything stable according to
my CDs and the ftp site, but keep the following packages (and anything
they depend on) up-to-date according to the unstable FTP site.
apt/deity doesn't seem to be able to do this.

A simple alternative would be to have a local directory that contains
just the .deb files I'd like to be unstable, and to include this in
'/etc/apt/sources.list'.  That doesn't work either!  I have to add a
bunch of support files (the 'Packages' file, and now some other file).

It seems that there isn't a simple way to fulfill my simple, common
need.  Can someone make a suggestion?

Simon Read

Formal ASICs, Ltd.
Suite 215
222 Main Street
Annapolis
MD 21401-2005

Telephone: 1 410 280 0228
Data/Fax:  1 410 280 2099
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: www.formasic.com


Re: majordomo documentation

1999-08-01 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 02:08:32PM -0700, Nate wrote:

 Where can I get Howtos on setting up a majordomo list?

Install majordomo and follow your nose:

$ ls /usr/doc/majordomo/
FAQ.gzREADME.sequencer  firewalls-digest.vol
FUTURE.gz changelog.Debian.gz   list-owner-info.gz
INSTALL.gzchangelog.gz  majordomo-faq.html
NEWLIST.gzcopyright majordomo-faq.txt.gz
NEWS  digest.aliasesmajordomo.lisa6.ps.gz
README.Debian firewalls-digest.cf   majordomo.ora.gz
README.Docfirewalls-digest.header   man
README.digest.gz  firewalls-digest.num  quick-digest-setup
README.gz firewalls-digest.trailer  sample.cf.gz

Cheers,
 Pann
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bus error

1999-08-01 Thread erasmo perez
hi

does somebody knows what does bus error means and how can i get out of
this?

it appears when i try to run netscape 4,61 on a 2.2.1 kernel and 3.3.4
xfree86

thanks


Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?

1999-08-01 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 31 Jul, Daniel Barclay wrote about Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
 
 
 From: Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ..
 That's the choice Debian offers: a rock-solid system with _slightly_
 out-of-date software (although you're free to upgrade it), or a
 state-of-the-art system with all the bugs inherent in the bleeding edge.
 
 But why not build the latest-and-greatest version of add-on packages
 against BOTH the stable and the latest-and-greatest unstable
 distribution?
 

Because this all takes time and resources to provide.  Remember that
Debian is a purely volenteer project, this includes both human time and
computer resources.  Many Debian developers do not have the resources
to provide versions for both stable and unstable, recall, to build a
stable and unstable binary you have to have a stable and unstable
system to build it against.  Those that are providing the archives are
also doing so on a volenteer basis and if they are developers themselves
then they must have the resources to build the versions for stable as
well as have an unstable system to build the new packages for the
current unstable. 

If you want something that is only available in the unstable tree you
can always build the source archive against your current setup, it is
fairly straight forward with the Debian source archives.

-- 
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Re: .xsession problem: The Next Generation

1999-08-01 Thread Carl Fink
Eric G. Miller wrote:

 gnome-session will remember your window manager, and other programs you
 have running.

The thing is, according to the Debian page at gnome.org, gnome-session
will sometimes lose all your customizations.  I actually tried
gnome-session once and it worked okay, but that warning makes me
nervous.
-- 
Carl Fink   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum
http://dm.net


Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Salman Ahmed
I finally installed Debian 2.1 after much effort. My Matrox
Millennium G200 video card was not recognized by the
version of XF86 that comes with Debian 2.1 but I was able
to upgrade to the XFree83 3.3.3.1-2 from the unstable packages.

Also, my mouse (Logitech MouseMan+ PS/2) was not working
at all, got that fixed by symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux.

Debian 2.1 rocks! I am very impressed with the window manager
menu system, I think that is so cool!! I am using WindowMaker 0.20.
Also, I was amazed at how easy it was to configure PPP using
the pppconfigure program. Very impressive!

However, I still have quite a few questions that I am hoping to
get answered :

(1) For console logins, how can I get the console screen to
be cleared after a user logs out ? RedHat 5.2 seems to do it by
default (ie without playing with any config files).

(2) If I download a bunch of .deb files myself to a dir on my HD,
how can I install them using a combination of dselect/apt ?

(3) I noticed that when I was running apt-get from a virtual
console (to upgrade to XF86-3.3.3.1), during the download the
other virtual consoles were 'locked' out. I couldn't switch over to
any of the other remaining 5 VCs. Is there a reason for this ?
Can this be fixed ? The moment that apt-get returned me to the
shell prompt I was able to switch to other VCs.

(4) Using the boot disk created during the install process, Debian
takes a very long time to reboot (about 4 minutes on my system).
However, when I created another boot disk (on another floppy)
using :

  mkboot /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36

Debian this time booted in around 10-15 seconds using this boot
disk created with mkboot. What gives ? What is the difference b/w
the two methods and which is recommended for making a boot
disk ?

(5) Initially, I tried to get the .debs for XFree86-3.3.3.1-2 from the
following site : ftp.netgod.net. Upon instructions from another Debian
user, who has been kind enough to offer email support during my
installation nightmare (Hi Kris!),
I added the following line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list :

deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/

Then, once I was connected via PPP, I typed the following on the
command line :

apt-get update

this worked fine.

Then I tried,

apt-get install xserver-svga

It attempted to download the .debs for the new 3.3.3.1-2 xserver,
but then a lot of messages were displayed saying that the .debs
weren't found (404: not found) and I wasn't able to get these
XFree86-3.3.3.1-2 .debs from the netgod site. Has anyone else had
this problem ? I was able to find these .debs when I connected
to the site using Netscape (in Windows) and tried to download
these .debs individually from the netgod ftp site. Can someone
explain why this happened, and how to download those .debs from
netgod's site (ftp.netgod.net) ?

I will be reinstalling Debian 2.1 soon and I don't want to switch to
glibc2.1 and some of the other unstable packages to get my video
card to be recognized properly.

(6) Because of (5) I removed the line

  deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/

and instead added the line

  deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free

to /etc/apt/soureces.list and then I tried to get the xsever-svga-3.3.3.1-2
and ended up upgrading to glibc-2.1 and a whole bunch of other
newer packages.

Is there anyway to backup these .debs which were downloaded to
my HD so that if I reinstall Debian 2.1, I don't have to download all
these .debs all over again (which BTW took over 2 1/2 hours over my
56k modem connection) ? I have a couple of old 540Mb HDs which I
use for backing up downloaded files prior to OS reinstallations.

(7) How can I get my SoundBlaster PCI128 sound card configured ?
Do I have to recompile the kernel for that ? Also, how do I setup/install
the ALSA drivers for this card (I had to use ALSA to get this sound card
to work with RedHat 5.2).

(8) During installation, I noticed a whole number of Linux Gazette
issues were being installed along with other docs. How do I read these
docs ? I thought they would have shown up on the menu system!

(9) I'd like to to upgrade to WindowMaker-0.60. What is the best/
recommended way of doing that ?

(10) It seems that I am booting up in 8bit color mode because the icons
in WindowMaker look quite bad. How do I change this so that I start
up in 16bit or 32bit mode ?

BTW, my system config is :

Celeron 300A (at 300MHz)
ABIT BH6 MotherBoard
128 MB RAM
Quantum 10.2Gb HD
Matrox Millennium G200 8Mb Video Card
SoundBlaster PCI 128 Sound Card
ACER 56k Internal ISA Modem (jumpered to COM2/IRQ3)
Creative 36X CD-ROM Drive
ADI MicroScan 6P 19 monitor

I would appreciate any help on the above mentioned items. Thanks for
reading the whole post (if you made it this far!). I apologize if any of these
questions are FAQs but after having spent the past few hours getting
Debian 2.1 up and running and am kinda anxious to get these few issues
out of the way.

Thanks.

--
Salman Ahmed
ssahmed AT interlog DOT com


Re: apt frustration

1999-08-01 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 31 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about apt frustration
 Folks,
 
 I run a little home office network.  Most of it is stable, slink at
 the moment, but I like to keep some stuff really leading edge (Java,
 DocBook/Jade, egcs c).
 
 A simple way to do this would SEEM to be to use apt/deity.
 
 It'd be great to be able to say: keep everything stable according to
 my CDs and the ftp site, but keep the following packages (and anything
 they depend on) up-to-date according to the unstable FTP site.
 apt/deity doesn't seem to be able to do this.
 
 A simple alternative would be to have a local directory that contains
 just the .deb files I'd like to be unstable, and to include this in
 '/etc/apt/sources.list'.  That doesn't work either!  I have to add a
 bunch of support files (the 'Packages' file, and now some other file).
 
 It seems that there isn't a simple way to fulfill my simple, common
 need.  Can someone make a suggestion?
 

Probably the best way is to use the 'hold' feature of dselect.  Get
your system set up as you want with stable then use dselect to put the
packages you want to keep the same on 'hold' with the '=' key.  Then
modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to include the unstable branch.  Then
only update packages using dselect select method.  I'm not sure what
happens if a package you want to upgrade depends on a later version of
a package you have on hold. 

-- 
Brian 
-
Mechanical Engineering  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
-


ldconfig confusions

1999-08-01 Thread formasic
Folks,

I'm trying to get Blackdown's JDK 1.2 port to work on my Debian box.

The port is very sensitive to the version of glibc that's installed.
They suggest glibc2.1 (which is not in slink).  I tried to update to
that library using .debs from the unstable.  Now, I seem to have a
confusing mess in my /lib directory.

When I run ldconfig -D (to try and find out what's installed), I geta
whole bunch of messages that look somehting like the following:

ldconfig: warning: /lib/ld-2.1.1.so has inconsistent soname (ld-linux.so.2)
ldconfig: warning: /lib/libc-2.1.1.so has inconsistent soname (libc.so.6)

ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libstdc++-2-libc6.1-1-2.9.0.so has inconsistent 
soname (libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2)
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so has inconsistent 
soname (libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2)

Can someone tell me how to find out if these are a problem, how to fix
them c?  There seem to be some serious naming problems here (given
'normal' Unix conventions), but I understand that this might be
necessary.

I'd RTFM if I know which FM to RT.

Thanks,

Simon Read

Formal ASICs, Ltd.
Suite 215
222 Main Street
Annapolis
MD 21401-2005

Telephone: 1 410 280 0228
Data/Fax:  1 410 280 2099
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: www.formasic.com


bashrc for xdm

1999-08-01 Thread Marc Meier
What is the best way to set up variables when using xdm/wdm.

I tried to execute my .bashrc from .xsession or to set the
variables in the .xsession, but the X-session refused to start even if
an empty ~/.xsession file exist.


Marc


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Phil Dyer
Salman Ahmed wrote:



 (5) Initially, I tried to get the .debs for XFree86-3.3.3.1-2 from the
 following site : ftp.netgod.net. Upon instructions from another Debian
 user, who has been kind enough to offer email support during my
 installation nightmare (Hi Kris!),
 I added the following line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list :

 deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/

I think the correct line for the slink debs is:
deb http://www.netgod.net x/
or
deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/
(notice no '/debian')^

HTH

dyer


wmcdplay and tray-locking

1999-08-01 Thread Marc Meier
As much as I like the wmcdplay-programm, the locking of the drivetray
sometimes is a real nightmare. IMO it makes no sense to lock the tray
even when the drive is empty or a data CD is insert.

Is there a patch available to remove this missbehavior?


Regards

Marc


Re: .xsession problem: The Next Generation

1999-08-01 Thread egm2
On 31 Jul, Carl Fink wrote:
  |  Eric G. Miller wrote:
  |  
  |   gnome-session will remember your window manager, and other programs you
  |   have running.
  |  
  |  The thing is, according to the Debian page at gnome.org, gnome-session
  |  will sometimes lose all your customizations.  I actually tried
  |  gnome-session once and it worked okay, but that warning makes me
  |  nervous.

The problem you describe sounds like the panel.  I've been using the
gnome-session for better than a month and this has never occured. 
However, the panel has forgotten it's settings.  It seems, everytime I
upgrade gnome stuff, some gnome-apps forget their former settings.  I
don't know why.  The only problem I've noticed with gnome-session is
that sometimes it will open applications you closed just before logging
out.  Seems it doesn't necessarily do a final check, but rather does
them at timed intervals.  But, I've made it a point to always use the
panel to log out since I discovered this problem, and everything seems
to be okay.  One thing that certainly doesn't work is to have
gnome-session manage a kde desktop.  Boy, talk about the mess that
creates!
-- 

Eric G. Miller
Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
Phil Dyer wrote:
 
 I think the correct line for the slink debs is:
 deb http://www.netgod.net x/
 or
 deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/
 (notice no '/debian')^

I think it's:

  deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/

I'm curious about the answer to Salman Ahmed's first question
too.
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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Ed Cogburn
Mark Wagnon wrote:
 
 [snip]

 I'm curious about the answer to Salman Ahmed's first question
 too.


I suggested using 'mingetty' as it by default will clear the
screen at logout.  Its also smaller than the default getty (I'm
pretty sure).


-- 
Ed C.


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Brian Servis
*- On 31 Jul, Ed Cogburn wrote about Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 
(and I need some help!)
 Mark Wagnon wrote:
 
 [snip]

 I'm curious about the answer to Salman Ahmed's first question
 too.
 
 
   I suggested using 'mingetty' as it by default will clear the
 screen at logout.  Its also smaller than the default getty (I'm
 pretty sure).
 

Yep!

# ls -l /sbin/getty /sbin/mingetty
  14 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root13228 Jun 24 20:27 /sbin/getty*
   9 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 8232 Nov 22  1997 /sbin/mingetty*


You could also add a vt escape code to the top of the /etc/issue if
mingetty is not an option.  

clear  /tmp/clear.txt   # clear is in ncurses-bin
cat /tmp/clear.txt /etc/issue  /etc/issue.clear
mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.noclear
mv /etc/issue.clear /etc/issue

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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Salman Ahmed
At 09:25 PM 7/31/99 , you wrote:
*- On 31 Jul, Ed Cogburn wrote about Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 
(and I need some help!)
  I suggested using 'mingetty' as it by default will clear the
 screen at logout.  Its also smaller than the default getty (I'm
 pretty sure).
 

Yep!

# ls -l /sbin/getty /sbin/mingetty
  14 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root13228 Jun 24 20:27 /sbin/getty*
   9 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 8232 Nov 22  1997 /sbin/mingetty*


You could also add a vt escape code to the top of the /etc/issue if
mingetty is not an option.  

clear  /tmp/clear.txt   # clear is in ncurses-bin
cat /tmp/clear.txt /etc/issue  /etc/issue.clear
mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.noclear
mv /etc/issue.clear /etc/issue


Ok. Just curious, but what's the proper/canonical way to do this ? I am
using tcsh, so what file(s) would I have to modify ?

Why is this not the default behaviour ?

In some multi-user environments this type of behaviour (ie the screen not
getting cleared after a user has logged out) could almost be considered
a security risk seeing as how another user could see what the last user
had been doing. Granted this is not that big of a deal but I am surprised to
see this as default behaviour in Debian when other distros like RH already
do this by default. I am just curious, not wanting to start a flame war!!



Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Michael Merten
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 10:34:09PM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:
 At 09:25 PM 7/31/99 , you wrote:
 *- On 31 Jul, Ed Cogburn wrote about Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 
 (and I need some help!)
 I suggested using 'mingetty' as it by default will clear the
  screen at logout.  Its also smaller than the default getty (I'm
  pretty sure).
  
 Yep!
 
 # ls -l /sbin/getty /sbin/mingetty
   14 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root13228 Jun 24 20:27 /sbin/getty*
9 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 8232 Nov 22  1997 /sbin/mingetty*
 
 You could also add a vt escape code to the top of the /etc/issue if
 mingetty is not an option.  
 
 clear  /tmp/clear.txt   # clear is in ncurses-bin
 cat /tmp/clear.txt /etc/issue  /etc/issue.clear
 mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.noclear
 mv /etc/issue.clear /etc/issue
 
 Ok. Just curious, but what's the proper/canonical way to do this ? I am
 using tcsh, so what file(s) would I have to modify ?
 
 Why is this not the default behaviour ?
 
 In some multi-user environments this type of behaviour (ie the screen not
 getting cleared after a user has logged out) could almost be considered
 a security risk seeing as how another user could see what the last user
 had been doing. Granted this is not that big of a deal but I am surprised to
 see this as default behaviour in Debian when other distros like RH already
 do this by default. I am just curious, not wanting to start a flame war!!
 

One way this could be done is to install the linuxlogo package
and configure it to display at the login prompt.  It displays the
new Debian logo (the potato version does, anyway) along with some
system information, effectively clearing the screen when you log
out.

Also, if you are using the bash shell, you could create a
~/.bash_logout file and include a 'clear' command.

Check the manpage or texinfo page for your shell to see if it
supports something like this.

Mike

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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread maxalbert

On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:42:16 -0700 (PDT) George Bonser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Chris-- There's an ftp on my system, and I can connect with ftp
 debian.org or ftp sunsite.unc.edu or other sites as well, but 
entering
 ftp netscape.com results in Connection refused, while  ftp
 ftp3.netscape.com gets hostname lookup failure. Thanks. -- Max

You probably do not have reverse DNS configured properly. Many sites 
will not allow you to connect if the in-addr.arpa PTR record is not in
place for your system.

Can you connect to ftp.uu.net ???  **[No sir.  Entering ftp uu.net
gives me No address associated with name.]**

If not, what IP address are you using?  
**[ I don't know.  My own IP is dynamically assigned at connection.  My
localhost is 127.0.0.1,  and my DNS is 206.40.134.33 (primary) and
206.40.134.34 (secondary)]**

Try using an external nameserver  **[what's that?]**
and doing an nslookup of that IP address, if it does not return a
hostname, that is probably your problem.

**[nslookup uu.net  gives me:  Server: ns1.premier1.net.
 Address: 206.40.134.33
   ns1.premier1.net cannot find uu.net. Non-existent host/domain]**

**[nslookup netscape.com gives: Non-authoritive answer
  Name: Netscape.com
  Address: 207.200.75.200 ]**

But it still refuses connection.  
How come some sites require reverse lookup and others don't? 
 Thanks. -- Max

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Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?

1999-08-01 Thread Brad
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Daniel Barclay wrote:

  From: Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ..
  That's the choice Debian offers: a rock-solid system with _slightly_
  out-of-date software (although you're free to upgrade it), or a
  state-of-the-art system with all the bugs inherent in the bleeding edge.
 
 But why not build the latest-and-greatest version of add-on packages
 against BOTH the stable and the latest-and-greatest unstable
 distribution?
 
 Then later versions of software (even if they're not long-tested
 and stable) could be run on the stable distribution.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a stable distribution? If you want the
latest, go with unstable, that's what it's there for (and don't forget to
submit any bugs you find! That's also what it's there for). Or if you want
to mix and match, feel free to grab the debian sources and build the
packages yourself. If you don't know how, check the archives; instructions
have been posted many times before.

 Note that that's what various other sites (Gnome, someone's KDE site,
 etc.) provide--recent individual software that doesn't require 
 the more recent, unstable distribution.

That's their perrogative.



Re: apt frustration

1999-08-01 Thread Brad
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Brian Servis wrote:

 *- On 31 Jul, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about apt frustration
  Folks,
  
  I run a little home office network.  Most of it is stable, slink at
  the moment, but I like to keep some stuff really leading edge (Java,
  DocBook/Jade, egcs c).
  
  A simple way to do this would SEEM to be to use apt/deity.
  
  It'd be great to be able to say: keep everything stable according to
  my CDs and the ftp site, but keep the following packages (and anything
  they depend on) up-to-date according to the unstable FTP site.
  apt/deity doesn't seem to be able to do this.
  
  A simple alternative would be to have a local directory that contains
  just the .deb files I'd like to be unstable, and to include this in
  '/etc/apt/sources.list'.  That doesn't work either!  I have to add a
  bunch of support files (the 'Packages' file, and now some other file).
  
  It seems that there isn't a simple way to fulfill my simple, common
  need.  Can someone make a suggestion?

Install the latest apt (with support for deb-src lines) and use these to
compile the potato packages from source for your slink. Once you've done
this, steal the Release file from somewhere (change if you'd like), dump
all the debs in a directory, touch the override file, and use
dpkg-scanpackages [from the dpkg-dev package].
  # pwd
  /usr/local/debs
  # touch override
  # dpkg-scanpackages . override  Packages

Then, add a line line the following to sources.list:
  deb file:/usr/local/debs /

 Probably the best way is to use the 'hold' feature of dselect.  Get
 your system set up as you want with stable then use dselect to put the
 packages you want to keep the same on 'hold' with the '=' key.  Then
 modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to include the unstable branch.  Then
 only update packages using dselect select method. 

Wouldn't this cause problems with the glibc version difference between
slink and potato? For example, wouldn't you need to upgrade to glibc 2.1
for one of those potato packages, which would then require several other
packages to be updated (i.e. bash).

 I'm not sure what happens if a package you want to upgrade depends on
 a later version of a package you have on hold.

I'm not sure... in the case of the Perl changes in potato, package X
depended on perl-5.005 which conflicted with perl-5.004 (which provided
perl which dpkg depended on, problem!) so even though perl-5.004 was on
hold it was marked for removal. But i don't know what happens if it's a
dependancy that would upgrade the held package.



Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread maxalbert
Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net and
got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
ftp.netscape.com also connects. 
Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from the
ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and type
in the first ftp.
Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  Any
chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
 

On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:42:16 -0700 (PDT) George Bonser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You probably do not have reverse DNS configured properly. Many sites 
will
not allow you to connect if the in-addr.arpa PTR record is not in 
place
for your system.

Can you connect to ftp.uu.net ???

If not, what IP address are you using?  Try using an external 
nameserver
and doing an nslookup of that IP address, if it does not return a
hostname, that is probably your problem.




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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  1 Aug, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
 Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net and
 got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
 ftp.netscape.com also connects. 
 Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from the
 ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and type
 in the first ftp.

Once your are in the ftp program you connect to hosts with 'open', ie.

ftp open ftp.netscape.com

enter 'help' to see more opions for the ftp prompt.

If you at your shell prompt then you can immediately start ftp
connected to a host like you did with

# ftp ftp.netscape.com


 Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  Any
 chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
  

/pub/communicator/english/4.61/unix/supported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz

-- 
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Re: Xlib, or I'm an idiot...again

1999-08-01 Thread Jor-el
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Dale,

You need to read the xauth man page.

You probably tried to start the programs in question after su'ing
to an id which was not the id used to enter your X session. Right?

Regards,
Jorel

The Macintosh is Xerox technology at its best.

On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Dale Scheetz wrote:

 I upgraded my system to potato a week or so ago, and since then mozilla
 will not load.
 
 I just built the newest version of xcircuit, and it refuses to load for
 the same reasons given by mozilla.
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Client is not authorised to connect to server
 Error: Can't open display :0.0
 
 I also can't seem to ftp into this machine any more (and I did it all the
 time before the upgrade), are all these issues related?
 
 What do I do to fix this?
 
 Waiting is,
 
 Dwarf
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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Brad
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 (2) If I download a bunch of .deb files myself to a dir on my HD,
 how can I install them using a combination of dselect/apt ?

1. You'll need the dpkg-dev package.
2. Create an override file. man dpkg-scanpackages for more info.
3. Steal a Release file from somewhere. Modify it if you'd like.
4. dpkg-scanpackages . override.filename  Packages in the dir with the
   debs.
5. Add a line to your sources.list something like this:
 deb file:/usr/local/debs /
   (assuming the deb files were in /usr/local/debs)

 (3) I noticed that when I was running apt-get from a virtual
 console (to upgrade to XF86-3.3.3.1), during the download the
 other virtual consoles were 'locked' out. I couldn't switch over to
 any of the other remaining 5 VCs. Is there a reason for this ?
 Can this be fixed ? The moment that apt-get returned me to the
 shell prompt I was able to switch to other VCs.

i've never encountered this before... i have no trouble changing VCs when
apt-get is running.

 (6) Because of (5) I removed the line
 
   deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/
 
 and instead added the line
 
   deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
 
 to /etc/apt/soureces.list and then I tried to get the xsever-svga-3.3.3.1-2
 and ended up upgrading to glibc-2.1 and a whole bunch of other
 newer packages.

That's because you were hitting the potato sources.

 Is there anyway to backup these .debs which were downloaded to
 my HD so that if I reinstall Debian 2.1, I don't have to download all
 these .debs all over again (which BTW took over 2 1/2 hours over my
 56k modem connection) ? I have a couple of old 540Mb HDs which I
 use for backing up downloaded files prior to OS reinstallations.

If they're still in /var/cache/apt/archives/, just back them up as usual.
Otherwise, you're out of luck.

 (7) How can I get my SoundBlaster PCI128 sound card configured ?
 Do I have to recompile the kernel for that ? Also, how do I setup/install
 the ALSA drivers for this card (I had to use ALSA to get this sound card
 to work with RedHat 5.2).

Yes, you have to recompils the kernel. Read the information in the
Documentation directory of the kernel sources for any relavent
information.

IIRC, there's an alsa package available. In the package selection screen
of dselect, type /alsa to search. Use \ to find further matches.

 (9) I'd like to to upgrade to WindowMaker-0.60. What is the best/
 recommended way of doing that ?

Well, you could upgrade to potato (if you haven't already undone so from
(6)). Or, you could compile from sources for your slink system.

The easiest way to compile from source is to get a recent version (0.3.11
would be good), then add a deb-src line you your sources.list. Make
sure you have the dpkg-dev package, as well as any necessary -dev
packages for required libraries. Then, apt-get --compile source wmaker

 (10) It seems that I am booting up in 8bit color mode because the icons
 in WindowMaker look quite bad. How do I change this so that I start
 up in 16bit or 32bit mode ?

Somewhere in xf86config/XF86Setup there's an option to select the
preferred color depth. Otherwise, in the Section Screen for your current
video driver, add a DefaultColorDepth ## line, where ## is the depth you
want by default. Or, IIRC, you can just rearrande the SubSection Displays
so the one you want is first.


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
Brian Servis wrote:
 
 You could also add a vt escape code to the top of the /etc/issue if
 mingetty is not an option.
 
 clear  /tmp/clear.txt   # clear is in ncurses-bin
 cat /tmp/clear.txt /etc/issue  /etc/issue.clear
 mv /etc/issue /etc/issue.noclear
 mv /etc/issue.clear /etc/issue

That's pretty sweet! Works like a charm. Now I'll take a look and
mingetty.

thanks!
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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread Sergey V Kovalyov
Actually, there is another variant. You can install netscape right
from debian using apt.
Instead of choosing installer, choose the packages
netscape-base-x.xx, communicator-smotif-x.xx, and other additions (where
x.xx is the version you want). I do it this way and works ok.

Sergey.

On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net and
 got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
 ftp.netscape.com also connects. 
 Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from the
 ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and type
 in the first ftp.
 Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  Any
 chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
  
 
 On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:42:16 -0700 (PDT) George Bonser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 You probably do not have reverse DNS configured properly. Many sites 
 will
 not allow you to connect if the in-addr.arpa PTR record is not in 
 place
 for your system.
 
 Can you connect to ftp.uu.net ???
 
 If not, what IP address are you using?  Try using an external 
 nameserver
 and doing an nslookup of that IP address, if it does not return a
 hostname, that is probably your problem.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Netscape crashing - Why do we have to rely on Netscape?

1999-08-01 Thread Bill
Hello,
Actually its http://www.operasoftware.com or http://opera.nta.no and the 
project for
opera for linux is under project magic

Mark Wagnon wrote:

 Phillip Deackes wrote:
 
  What I cannot understand is why we have only Netscape as a *viable*
  graphical web browser. I am no programmer so maybe someone could point
  out why there aren't several to choose from. I am aware of old ports of
  Mosaic and the 'test-bed' Amayana? (sorry, can't remember the exact
  name). I am also aware of Mozilla. is that usable yet?
 
  Thinking about it, there are not that many choices available for Windows
  either - I was investigating some for use by my students and it appeared
  most 'alternatives' were based on IE and just provided a different front
  end.

 Yeah I know what you mean. Have you looked into opera? I haven't
 taken a look recently, but there was a windows version and they
 were working on versions for Linux and others.

 I think their homepage is http://www.opera.com Check them out.
 I'm gonna head over their right now...
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smail doesn't read ~/.forward file

1999-08-01 Thread Pawel Mazur
Hi,
I am using smail on my debian slink box with 2.2.10 kernel.
I set up my ~/.forward file in order to sort my mail through procmail
(|/usr/bin/procmail) but it didn't work.
Trying various .forward files, I figured out that this file is not
read at all.
My /etc/smail/config includes a line corresponding to the directors
file (director_file=directors) and /etc/smail/directors contains
dotforward:
driver=forwardfile, owner=$user, nobody, sender_okay;
file=~/.forward, checkowner, owners=root, modemask=002,
caution=0-10:uucp:daemon,
unsecure=0-99:~ftp:~uucp:/tmp:/var/tmp,
My ~/.forward file is chmoded 600 and owned by me (melyan) and my
group (melyan).

I tried commenting line 'caution=0-10...' due to the UID procmail
runs with (root) but it didn't work also.

What could be wrong with my configuration ?
I would be grateful for your help.

Pawel Mazur (Melyan)
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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread John Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net and
 got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
 ftp.netscape.com also connects.
 Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from the
 ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and type
 in the first ftp.
 Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  Any
 chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
_
No, just a dim flicker of light in a long dark tunnel.
You need this file

/pub/communicator/4.6/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/communicator-v46-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz

and use the netscape 4 installer from debian. Place the downloaded file
in the /tmp directory and when you use dselect to install the netscape4
installer, it will automatically install and set up netscape
communicator.
-- 
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AdVance-Computing Systems
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libXext.so.6

1999-08-01 Thread erasmo perez
hi 

i can run xfree86 as root, but when i try to run it as a common user, i
get the following message when i type startx:

libXext.so.6 cannot open shared object file, no such file or directory
libXaw.so.6 cannot open shared object file, no such file or directory

i have copied the .bashrc and .profile from de /root subdirectory to the
/home/user subdirectory, but the problem remains

how the user can not load the same libraries that the root can?
any idea how to fix the problem?

thanks a lot


re: dhcpcd (0.70) under Debian - some problems...

1999-08-01 Thread Kirt Runolfson

You should be able to put your mac address, ifconfig should list it as
HWaddr, into the configuration file.  This way it will give you an ip
address based on your ethernet cards mac address.  It should be the same
in both operating systems.

-Kirt Runolfson
Northwest Advantage



Re: apt frustration

1999-08-01 Thread Phillip Deackes
Brian Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Probably the best way is to use the 'hold' feature of dselect.  Get
 your system set up as you want with stable then use dselect to put the
 packages you want to keep the same on 'hold' with the '=' key.  Then
 modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to include the unstable branch. 
 Then
 only update packages using dselect select method.  I'm not sure what
 happens if a package you want to upgrade depends on a later version of
 a package you have on hold. 

I have found that if a package is on 'hold' then it will not be upgraded
by art either. A member of this list sent me a small script which will
put a package on hold without needing to start dselect (which I avoid
like the plague). I found this useful when the latest version of Exim
wouldn't work on my system. I held it back for a while and was able to
regularly upgrade Potato on my machine without fear of losing the mail
facility. As soon as I worked out what the problem was I manually
upgraded the package and it was then not held back. 

 start

#! /bin/bash

# dpkg-hold  --  command line tool to flag package(s) as held.
#
# by Craig Sanders, 1998-10-26.  This script is hereby placed into the
# public domain.
#
# BUGS: this script has absolutely no error checking.  this is not good.

if [ -z $* ] ; then
echo Usage:
echo   dpkg-hold package...
exit 1
fi

for i in $@ ; do
echo $ihold
done | dpkg --set-selections

 end

AFAIK apt will not attempt to upgrade packages dependent on the package
held back. Perhaps someone else can verify this?


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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread P. van Tilburg
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 However, I still have quite a few questions that I am hoping to
 get answered :
 
 (1) For console logins, how can I get the console screen to
 be cleared after a user logs out ? RedHat 5.2 seems to do it by
 default (ie without playing with any config files).

that is done by create a file in the homedir called

.bash_logout

if you put in there the line:
clear

the screen will be cleared by logout...
an advise: put that file in /etc/skel to if you want the feature
enabled for future user-accounts you make.

 (2) If I download a bunch of .deb files myself to a dir on my HD,
 how can I install them using a combination of dselect/apt ?

dpkg -i debfile

will do also (that's what apt and dselect do...)

 (5) Initially, I tried to get the .debs for XFree86-3.3.3.1-2 from the
 following site : ftp.netgod.net. Upon instructions from another Debian
 user, who has been kind enough to offer email support during my
 installation nightmare (Hi Kris!),
 I added the following line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list :
 
 deb http://ftp.netgod.net/debian x/

try: deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/
but that has been said many times now...

 Is there anyway to backup these .debs which were downloaded to
 my HD so that if I reinstall Debian 2.1, I don't have to download all
 these .debs all over again (which BTW took over 2 1/2 hours over my
 56k modem connection) ? I have a couple of old 540Mb HDs which I
 use for backing up downloaded files prior to OS reinstallations.

after using apt, if it has downloaded packages, it asks you if
you want to remove the downloaded .deb files, answer no.
Then you can find them in /var/cache/apt/archives

 (7) How can I get my SoundBlaster PCI128 sound card configured ?
 Do I have to recompile the kernel for that ? Also, how do I setup/install
 the ALSA drivers for this card (I had to use ALSA to get this sound card
 to work with RedHat 5.2).

No id, I want to know that too.

 (8) During installation, I noticed a whole number of Linux Gazette
 issues were being installed along with other docs. How do I read these
 docs ? I thought they would have shown up on the menu system!
 
 (9) I'd like to to upgrade to WindowMaker-0.60. What is the best/
 recommended way of doing that ?

One way is to upgrade to potato ( but only if you feel ready for,
it is quite stable now, I must say.)

 (10) It seems that I am booting up in 8bit color mode because the icons
 in WindowMaker look quite bad. How do I change this so that I start
 up in 16bit or 32bit mode ?

startx -- -bpp 16

you can make an alias for that in your .bash_profile or /etc/profile (system
wide)

Good Luck

Paul

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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, P. van Tilburg wrote:

 On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:
 
  However, I still have quite a few questions that I am hoping to
  get answered :
  
  (1) For console logins, how can I get the console screen to
  be cleared after a user logs out ? RedHat 5.2 seems to do it by
  default (ie without playing with any config files).
 
 that is done by create a file in the homedir called
 
 .bash_logout
 
 if you put in there the line:
 clear
 
 the screen will be cleared by logout...
 an advise: put that file in /etc/skel to if you want the feature
 enabled for future user-accounts you make.
You can also use the trap command. trap exit /usr/bin/clear , this is
described in the Tips-HOWTO document. You should place this line in some
file that is not shell specific, perhaps /etc/profile
  (7) How can I get my SoundBlaster PCI128 sound card configured ?
  Do I have to recompile the kernel for that ? Also, how do I setup/install
  the ALSA drivers for this card (I had to use ALSA to get this sound card
  to work with RedHat 5.2).
 
 No id, I want to know that too.
Grab the latest potato alsa-source,drivers, config and any thing else with
alsa in it in deb format of cource. install every package with dpkg -i
*.deb,  insstall any additional package thaat alsa needs. Insall the
make-kpg package may be called debian-make dont know really, go to
/usr/src/linux and configure the kernel, remeber if you have a kernel 2.2
and up you must add support for sound in the kernel but not choose any
card. when you are throug exit the confrig and write make-kpkg --revision
1 kernel-image (it is bet you check the man page first as always) then
when is finnshed write make-kpkg --revision 1 modules, thsese two commands
makes two .deb files in the /usr/src directory, install them with dpkg -i
*.deb .  then run alsaconfig and configure yoursoundcard, reboot and ta-ta
your soundcard works.

Good luck!
/nisse




Star office 5 fonts and speed

1999-08-01 Thread Stephan Hachinger



Hello!

Sorry for this "non-debian" question, but maybe 
anyone knows how to solve my problem. I'm using StarOffice 5.1 on a 
slink(Kernel 2.2.9) system, and whenever I want to use a X11 xfstt font, I 
have to type itsfull name into the font selection listbox because these 
fonts don't appear in the list box. Thanks for any solutions to this 
problem.

By the way, Star Office isawfully slow (about 
1:30min startup on a P133). I use it because I don't know how to use X11 fonts 
in Corel WP and because of better compatibility to WORD. But the speed of it as 
well as the amount of disk space it uses (for what???) is terrible. I'm quite 
disappointed of it.


Kind Regards,

Stephan Hachinger


Re: Anyone using an S3 Trio3D/2X graphic card ?

1999-08-01 Thread sdf
Wim Kerkhoff wrote:

 I think that at one time (6 weeks ago?) I tried to get this card working for a
 friend, but I read the docs for the current (at the time) X versions, and that
 card was not supported.  We swapped it with a Banshee 16MB, which worked fine.

 Well I'll need to wait till have support for my graphic card.

 Actually, XFree86 project says they are still developing support for such 
graphic
card and the only available X server
it's XF86_VGA16 .

 As you could imagine I'm using that.
 Using 640x480 resolution with 16 colors makes me remember the old days of my
386sx at 16MHz. :-)

 Thanks for your help.

 Best regards,
   Nuno Carvalho




Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Tim Nicholas
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 10:58:46AM +0200, P. van Tilburg wrote:
  
  (1) For console logins, how can I get the console screen to
  be cleared after a user logs out ? RedHat 5.2 seems to do it by
  default (ie without playing with any config files).
 
 that is done by create a file in the homedir called
 
 .bash_logout
 
 if you put in there the line:
 clear
 
 the screen will be cleared by logout...
 an advise: put that file in /etc/skel to if you want the feature
 enabled for future user-accounts you make.

Is it just me or does this not work for the root account? 
it doesn't worry me much since i have an alias in .bashrc which says
alias cl='clear;exit'

but i tryed it this way and while it worked for normal users it did not for 
root. Probably the most imprtant user to not have people looking at.. though 
maybe not.

thanks, 

tim


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Re: Mutt dependency on an MTA

1999-08-01 Thread Laurent PICOULEAU
Hi,

On Sat, 31 Jul, 1999 à 09:25:02AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
 On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 08:25:25PM -0600, John Galt wrote:
  
   This would be more of an arguement for a MTA being a priority:required
   rather than a Depends: on an Extra package.  The other question that this
  
  There are a selection of MTAs.  No given one of them is required, it's
  just that you ought to have one installed.
 
 Yeah, you ought to have one installed, so why add a redundant dependency
 to a MUA?  Because a you OUGHT to have a MTA with your MUA as well--not
 need, ought: I'm beating a dead horse, but we've only discovered one MUA
 that is completely useless without a MTA, mutt (and as far as I'm
 concerned, it's just about as useless WITH a MTA)

What's your point ? You seemed to be concerned by mutt but you now tell it's
useless : so, don't install it and you'll not be bothered by its dependancies.
 
 Policy also requires that a package be made universally useless without
 another package before it can be said to depend on it, and I've said it
 more times than I care to count: A MUA CAN WORK IN AT LEAST ONE CASE
 WITHOUT A LOCAL MTA--that of being used as a POP/IMAP client for a
 remote SMTP server, and that's all that's necessary to go from Depends: to
 Recommends:  PERIOD.  
 
How could you *send* mail with mutt *without* a MTA ?

   MTA is essential, but I'm doubting that it can be said to be a dependency
   of a MUA, more like a recommends:  
  
  For MUAs which send mail by calling sendmail, it is pretty much a
  dependancy.
 
 What if I'm using smail, qmail, or postfix--those are all valid MTAs for
 the dependency--but they won't get called when a fork goes out to sendmail
 (except smail, I believe it aliases sendmail to itself in installation),
 or are you going far afield and postulating a MUA that strictly depends on
 sendmail?  If you're doing that, credibility is so strained at that point
 that we could use /bin/false to send mail--there's so many competing
 MTAs that your hypothetical MUA would be defined as broken at the plate.
 
What about the solution used in debian :

$ ls *mail -l
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root4 Nov 11  1998 rmail - exim
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root4 Nov 11  1998 sendmail - exim

I suppose that qmail, postfix and other use a similar trick.

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Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?

1999-08-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski

** Brad == Brad  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Brad On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Daniel Barclay wrote:

 But why not build the latest-and-greatest version of add-on
 packages against BOTH the stable and the latest-and-greatest
 unstable distribution?

 Then later versions of software (even if they're not long-tested
 and stable) could be run on the stable distribution.

Brad Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a stable distribution? If
Brad you want the latest, go with unstable, that's what it's there
Brad for (and don't forget to submit any bugs you find! That's also
Brad what it's there for).

Not always. It is nice to have the latest X packages (simply because
much in hardware support has been added since the slink release) or
GNOME (slink ships with 0.30), without the trouble of moving
completely to unstable (glibc and perl comes to mind).

And there are developers, who have the time, resources and will to do
recompiles. I spoke to Wichert about this matter, and he says it is
more a matter of a missing stable release management. There is a need
for someone with enough knowledge and dedication to handle this. Such
updates could then be handled by a seperate section in the archives
update packs or such (and the infrastructure like dinstall has to be
extended).

Brad Or if you want to mix and match, feel free to grab the debian
Brad sources and build the packages yourself.

Sure. Although it is sometimes not that easy without source
dependancies. One has to be able to interpret the errors, sometimes
more packages from unstable are needed (autoconf, automake comes to
mind), which themself might pull more packages and so on.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: How can I change the host name?

1999-08-01 Thread Christian Dysthe

On 31 Jul, Brian Servis wrote:
 *- On 31 Jul, Tadas wrote about How can I change the host name?

 Edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, I also have a file /etc/mailname but
 I don't recall what that is used for.  If you have that edit it as well.
 
Do you have to reboot to have these changes take effect?

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Re: Netscape crashing - Why do we have to rely on Netscape?

1999-08-01 Thread Christian Dysthe

On 31 Jul, Phillip Deackes wrote:
 I have been following the threads about the instability of Netscape with
 great interest. I too suffer the same symptoms - the ones where Netscape
 disappears when a certain page is requested, or where it closes/crashes
 when one window of two/several is closed.
 
 What I cannot understand is why we have only Netscape as a *viable*
 graphical web browser. I am no programmer so maybe someone could point
 out why there aren't several to choose from. I am aware of old ports of
 Mosaic and the 'test-bed' Amayana? (sorry, can't remember the exact
 name). I am also aware of Mozilla. is that usable yet?
 
 Thinking about it, there are not that many choices available for Windows
 either - I was investigating some for use by my students and it appeared
 most 'alternatives' were based on IE and just provided a different front
 end.
 
 
 --
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 Debian Linux (Potato) 
 
 
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Opera will be ready for Linux soon. But Opera is not free. I work for
Opera Software and seen that the Linux version will be just as stable
and lightweight under Linux as it is under Windows. You don't get all
the bells a whistles you do from Netscape, but you will get a lightning
fast, rock solid, browser.


And you will have to pay...sorry! :)
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monitoring advertising on this list

1999-08-01 Thread esoR ocsirF
Hello all,
I asked this question some time ago and got no response, so...

rant
I hate those pesky ads that pop up on the list. They really annoy me.
/rant

Does anybody know if the message on
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe is actually enforced? It
would appease my wrath to know that unsoliceted solicators postings 
actually DO get billed and if they don't pay get sued ( or whatever 
the appropriate legal action is ).

quote
...the mailing lists will bill you $1999 (U.S). 
/quote
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Re: Init takes long time and what is lspci?

1999-08-01 Thread Jor-el
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Jonas,

'lspci' is not needed and will not work on the 2.0.x kernels. They
need a file in the /proc heirarchy which was introduced in the 2.2.x
kernels.

Cant answer your INIT question.

Regards,
Jor-el

Human cardiac catheterization was introduced by Werner Forssman in 1929.
Ignoring his department chief, and tying his assistant to an operating
table to prevent her interference, he placed a ureteral catheter into
a vein in his arm, advanced it to the right atrium [of his heart], and
walked upstairs to the x-ray department where he took the confirmatory
x-ray film.  In 1956, Dr. Forssman was awarded the Nobel Prize.

On 1 Aug 1999, Jonas Steverud wrote:

 
 Debian Potato.
 
 Last queation first: what's lspci? I get the message that lspci is not
 found so no PCI conflicts are calculated when I boot. I presume it's
 in pciutils but who do I know if I need it or not? I bought the
 computer in november '96 and I really don't know/remember what's in
 it. (I gave up keeping track of all new standards when SVGA meant
 better then 640x480x16 and the i486 came.)
 
 When I boot, init prints out INIT 2.74 (?) and then it stops for
 10-20 seconds and then continues with NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0
 for Linux NET4.0. which takes another 5-10 seconds. Anyone who knows
 why this happens? Is it trying to get some information from somewhere
 or what? Before I changed to the 2.2.10-kernel (see other thread) this
 did not happen. Or is it perfectly normal?
 
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Re: How can I change the host name?

1999-08-01 Thread Bernhard Rieder
Christian Dysthe wrote:
 
 On 31 Jul, Brian Servis wrote:
  *- On 31 Jul, Tadas wrote about How can I change the host name?
 
  Edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, I also have a file /etc/mailname but
  I don't recall what that is used for.  If you have that edit it as well.
 
 Do you have to reboot to have these changes take effect?

No. But you will have to call hostname your_new_hostname as root.
See man 1 hostname for details.
Normally this is not required since the init-scripts do
that for you at boot time (in /etc/init.d/hostname.sh)
by calling hostname --file /etc/hostname


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Curriculum Vitae in LaTeX

1999-08-01 Thread Paulo Henrique B de Oliveira
Hi all,
anyone knows where to find a curriculum vitae model in LaTeX?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique


Re: Init takes long time and what is lspci?

1999-08-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 02:31:15PM +0200, Jonas Steverud wrote:
 When I boot, init prints out INIT 2.74 (?) and then it stops for
 10-20 seconds and then continues with NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0
 for Linux NET4.0. which takes another 5-10 seconds. Anyone who knows
 why this happens? Is it trying to get some information from somewhere
 or what? Before I changed to the 2.2.10-kernel (see other thread) this
 did not happen. Or is it perfectly normal?

I had this problem, too, after a partial upgrade to potato. After
upgrading a few more packages, it worked again. I can't remember
which packages exactly, but I think sysvinit was among them.

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Problem getting EtherLink card to work

1999-08-01 Thread markzimm
I just installed a new 3com EtherLink III card and I am unable to ping
another machine.

First, a quick overview: I am trying to connect my linux box (with the new
card) to a mac with a null cable. I've never used the ethernet on the mac
before so I can't be certain it works. Also, the null cable is untested
so far -- I am going to run it into the office and try it out there on
two linux boxes on which networking works.

I ran the DOS setup utility to disable PnP and set the IRQ/port to 5/0x300.
The kernel module detects the card:

eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address  00 50 04 21 f9 af, IRQ 5.
3c509.c:1.16 2/3/98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses.

I don't know what the 'Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses' comment means.
Is it OK?

I get no response from a ping on the other machine. The problem could be
anywhere at this point put I am wondering about the implications of one
thing I noticed. After pinging it with 21 packets, i do a cat /proc/net/dev
and get:

Inter-|   Receive  |  Transmit
 face |packets errs drop fifo frame|packets errs drop fifo colls carrier
lo:  600006000 00
  eth0:  000004000 00
   sl0:  000000000 00

Note that there are only 4 transmitted packets on eth0.

Could this be an IRQ or IO port conflict?
Also, is there a command for listing the IRQs and ports in use? I think I've
seen such a thing but I can't remember what it is.

I know this is not much information yet but any insights would be appreciated.

-- Mark Zimmerman


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 However, I still have quite a few questions that I am hoping to
 get answered :

First let me compliment you on your detailed and well organized request
for help.

I'll pick off one of your questions that is easy for me and let others
do the same.

Keep in mind there is always More Than One Way To Do It. I'm giving you
a simple, brute force solutions that has worked for me.

 (2) If I download a bunch of .deb files myself to a dir on my HD,
 how can I install them using a combination of dselect/apt ?

I keep these in a separate directory. For example, the X packages from
netgod are in /usr/local/netgod/ and the latest KDE packages are in
/usr/local/kde/.

Then I just do the following:

# dpkg -i /usr/local/netgod/*.deb
# dpkg -i /usr/local/kde/*.deb

This simple and effective. Keeping the files togther and installing them
with a single dpkg command means dependencies shouldn't be a problem.
If you do come up with a dependency issue, just add the necessary
package(s) to the appropriate directory.

Luck,
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2clogin1

1999-08-01 Thread erasmo perez
hallo

when i try to run efix i get:

2clogin1, command not found

and it is certainly not in my hd

any idea where i can find this file?

thanks


Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 10:34:09PM -0400, Salman Ahmed wrote:

 In some multi-user environments this type of behaviour (ie the screen not
 getting cleared after a user has logged out) could almost be considered
 a security risk seeing as how another user could see what the last user
 had been doing. Granted this is not that big of a deal but I am surprised to
 see this as default behaviour in Debian when other distros like RH already
 do this by default. I am just curious, not wanting to start a flame war!!

You just answered your own question: In some multi-user environments ..

On my system at home (where I'm the only user) I don't want anything
scrolling (or being cleared) off the screen just because I've logged
out.

At work, it's a different story.

And somebody had to choose the default and leave it for we who don't
care for it to change our own environment.

Cheers,
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Re: Netscape crashing - Why do we have to rely on Netscape?

1999-08-01 Thread Patrick Kirk
KDE has an integrated file manager and browser that is excellent...once you
try it you'll wonder why anyone uses Netscape.  I just wish the GNOME crew
had the same approach because while I prefer GNOME, Konqueror is THE best
free browser.

Patrick


installing new kernel crashed X - Help

1999-08-01 Thread Micha Feigin
I tried to compile an install kernel 2.2.10 on a 486dx2.
It compiled correctly, but when I tried to install it it wouldn't start
(halted with a message that it was trying to open some module and couldn't
find it, and then that it couldn't mount root file system on 03:01.)
I rebooted with the old kernel (a localy compile 2.2.5).
I then tried to recompile 2.2.10, reinstalled it, but it still didn't
work(same error).
When i went back to the old kernel again and login into x, when i tried to
log as a normal user, the screen would go blank and then throw me back to
the login prompt (kdm). It did let me login as root.
On the text consoles (not x11) i can log in as a normal user.
What did I kill?
All i changed was the kernels and lilo (at list as far as i know).
If it helps, the compilation over filled my hard disk (it showed 0 space
before starting the compilation)
The second, the one that crashed the system, I didn't clean the kernel
source before rebooting.
Thanx
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ascii - tiff

1999-08-01 Thread erasmo perez
hi

where can i get a converter, that takes ascii (text written in vi) and
gives tiff (for sending as fax)?

i have tried the efix, but it gives me a bug (last mail)

thanks


What process is sending these UPD packets?

1999-08-01 Thread Michael Laing
I have a slink server which runs samba (smbd, nmdb), named, and xntpd as
well as an IP masquerade for a bunch of internal windoz machines.

A few weeks ago I started getting bursts of UDP packets every 30 seconds
or so which are rejected by the standard firewall and clog up my
/var/log/messages file to the tune of several MB daily.

Here's what they look like from 'dmesg':

IP fw-in deny eth1 UDP 192.168.0.1:1033 255.255.255.255:1478 L=329
S=0x00 I=64386 F=0x T=128
(repeated many times)

Here they are from /var/log/messages:

Aug  1 11:27:37 myhostname kernel: IP fw-in deny eth1 UDP
192.168.0.1:1033 255.255.255.255:1478 L=329 S=0x00 I=51847 F=0x
T=128 
(repeated many times)

Using 'tcpdump -i eth1 udp' I see:

11:33:01.485932 myexternalhostalias.ucook.com.1033 
255.255.255.255.1478: udp 301
(repeated 12 more times in each burst)

'lsof' doesn't help me find out what started sending these, at least I
can't figure it out.

Does anyone know what sends these? Or know how to find out?

Or how to get it to stop? Or just how to not clog the log??

Thanks,
ml


apologizes

1999-08-01 Thread erasmo perez
hi

really sorry for having asked quiestions that had been previously
answered in the man tool

not to repeat

thanks a lot


Re: Xlib, or I'm an idiot...again

1999-08-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Jor-el wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 [ list changed to debian-user since this definitely belongs there ]
 
 Dale,
 
   You need to read the xauth man page.
 
   You probably tried to start the programs in question after su'ing
 to an id which was not the id used to enter your X session. Right?

Right on the nose!

I had su'd to root to install the new mozilla package to try it, and
hadn't dropped back.

I don't think I've had this experience before with root. What happened to
my super user capabilities?

Now the newly compiled xcircuit can be run from the prompt, and mozilla
comes up to the splash screen before it reports a segfault ;-(

Neither of the new programs will run from the menu. Is menu broken, or has
it just changed and my package and mozilla haven't caught up?

Thanks for the pointers,

Dwarf
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Re: Initial thoughts about Debian 2.1 (and I need some help!)

1999-08-01 Thread Salman Ahmed

At 12:07 PM 8/1/99 , you wrote:

You just answered your own question: In some multi-user environments ..

On my system at home (where I'm the only user) I don't want anything
scrolling (or being cleared) off the screen just because I've logged
out.

At work, it's a different story.

And somebody had to choose the default and leave it for we who don't
care for it to change our own environment.

Cheers,
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It isn't an issue for me either. At home I am the only user, and besides
I always use X/Xdm for logging in. Very rarely do I login through a console.

Of course, if I were using Debian it work then it would definitely matter.
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ssh with RSA-key login problem

1999-08-01 Thread Fredrik Jonsson
Hi,

I have setup sshd on my Debina system, genrated keys for root and user1
with ssh-keygen and put the public key in the file .ssh/authorized_keys.
I have moved the private keys to my Mac where I run a ssh client
(niftytelnet-1.1-ssh-r3).

root login works without a problem but when I try to login as user1 my
ssh client complains that Server does not allow RSA authentication, or
the public key for user user1 was not accepted. Reverting to password
authentication.

What is wrong?

Debian:/home/user1/.ssh# ls -la
total 6
drwxr-sr-x   2 user1 user1 1024 Aug  1 15:33 .
drwxrwsr-x  10 user1 user1 1024 Aug  1 15:31 ..
-rw-rw-r--   1 user1 user1  327 Aug  1 15:33 authorized_keys
-rw---   1 user1 user1  523 Aug  1 15:32 identity
-rw-rw-r--   1 user1 user1  327 Aug  1 15:32 identity.pub
-rw---   1 user1 user1  512 Aug  1 15:31 random_seed

Regards,
Fredrik Jonsson

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Re: Anyone using an S3 Trio3D/2X graphic card ?

1999-08-01 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 01:19:59PM +0100, sdf wrote:
 Wim Kerkhoff wrote:
 
  I think that at one time (6 weeks ago?) I tried to get this card
  working for a friend, but I read the docs for the current (at the
  time) X versions, and that card was not supported.  We swapped it with
  a Banshee 16MB, which worked fine.
 
  Well I'll need to wait till have support for my graphic card.
 
  Actually, XFree86 project says they are still developing support for
  such graphic card and the only available X server it's XF86_VGA16 .
 
  As you could imagine I'm using that.  Using 640x480 resolution with 16
  colors makes me remember the old days of my 386sx at 16MHz. :-)
 

Just take a look at very new XFree86 3.3.4 - as I remember it has support
for S3 Trio3D. Just take server (SVGA or S3 or S3V?) from address:

ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/3.3.4/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc/Servers/

and give it a chance.

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monitor whining

1999-08-01 Thread Dean
 Just got x windows running but I hear a whine coming from monitor. Is
that a sign that I need to reconfig x?  Dean


Re: monitor whining

1999-08-01 Thread Andrei Ivanov
  Just got x windows running but I hear a whine coming from monitor. Is
 that a sign that I need to reconfig x?  Dean

Run xvidtune and check whether you are running the monitor over the specs
(Don't do that. Seriously). You should have some idea about the
hsync/vsync rates of it.
Also try turning down the resolution/bpp.
Andrew


GIMP perl

1999-08-01 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

How come that the debianized gimp 1.1.7 doesn't have the perl scripts?
Or does it have them but I miss something in my installation and they
don't come out?

Pf


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Re: [Kernel 2.2.10] Mount complains about msdos-drive

1999-08-01 Thread Gerald . Preissler
Jonas Steverud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've just upgraded to the 2.2.10-kernel (using the
 kernel-image-package), I used 2.0.33 before and it worked without any
 problem.
 
 root%  mount -t msdos /dev/hda2 /msdos -o noexec,ro,nosuid,blocksize=1024,auto
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
or too many mounted file systems
 
 I've read the man-page for mount but couldn't find anything regarding
 options. The superblock is most likely intact and I only have /proc
 and / mounted.

Jonas,

this is just a w.a.g., but is either /dev/hda2 or /msdos mentioned in your
/etc/fstab? If so, try to comment it out and try again.

cheerio
Jerry

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Re: Installing X

1999-08-01 Thread Gerald . Preissler
Robert Rati [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 I do not have a Matrox Millenium, but I believe that card uses the SVGA
 xserver.  I believe the XFree web page has a list of cards that work with
 SVGA.  I'm pretty sure the G200 is one of them, as my friend had one and
 that's what we used to get it to work.  
 

I have one, and there is a problem with it XFree 3.3.3.1. I could not start
the SVGA-Server when I tried to set it up with XF86Setup. I had it working
with my SuSE system, so I copied the XF86Config (created with SAX) from the
backup to /etc/X11 and everything is working fine since then.

cheerio
Jerry

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Re: potato NIS

1999-08-01 Thread Alex Romosan
Marcin Kurc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have upgraded to potato with NIS 3.4-1. Everything worked fine with slink 
 NIS package but now I cannot connect to NIS master. For example, ypcat passwd 
 output:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc]# ypcat passwd
 yp_all: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out
 No such map passwd.byname. Reason: Internal NIS error
 
 Does anybody know whats wrong?
 

i had the same problem. this is because ypserv dies every time a
client tries to access the master. i got around this by recompiling
the package on my system. didn't feel like investigating too much why
ypserv in the maintainer's package dies. hope this helps.

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Re: installing new kernel crashed X - Help

1999-08-01 Thread Stephan Hachinger

- Original Message -
From: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-user Debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 6:34 PM
Subject: installing new kernel crashed X - Help


 I tried to compile an install kernel 2.2.10 on a 486dx2.
 It compiled correctly, but when I tried to install it it wouldn't start
 (halted with a message that it was trying to open some module and couldn't
 find it, and then that it couldn't mount root file system on 03:01.)
 I rebooted with the old kernel (a localy compile 2.2.5).
 I then tried to recompile 2.2.10, reinstalled it, but it still didn't
 work(same error).
 When i went back to the old kernel again and login into x, when i tried to
 log as a normal user, the screen would go blank and then throw me back to
 the login prompt (kdm). It did let me login as root.
 On the text consoles (not x11) i can log in as a normal user.
 What did I kill?
 All i changed was the kernels and lilo (at list as far as i know).
 If it helps, the compilation over filled my hard disk (it showed 0 space
 before starting the compilation)
 The second, the one that crashed the system, I didn't clean the kernel
 source before rebooting.
 Thanx
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Dear Micha Feigin,

I've had the X11 Problem, too. Possibly, you forgot to include some network
drivers/ protocols needed by X11 (TCP/IP etc. I think) in the kernel. I just
tried different protocols until it ran.

If it can't mount the root fs, you forgot to include a driver for that fs in
the kernel, I suppose.

By the way, why are you willing to switch to 2.2.10???

You should clean up your hard disk-did it cause any errors when compiling
the kernel?



Kind Regards, Stephan Hachinger.


Re: apt frustration

1999-08-01 Thread Carl Fink
[This message has also been posted.]
On 31 Jul 99 23:24:02 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It'd be great to be able to say: keep everything stable according to
my CDs and the ftp site, but keep the following packages (and anything
they depend on) up-to-date according to the unstable FTP site.
apt/deity doesn't seem to be able to do this.

Gee, I just complained about this a few days ago.  (I was wrong.)

Problem:  the files in potato depend on major infrastructural changes
(glibc 2.1) and won't work on a slink system.
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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Brian Servis wrote:

[ snip ]

 :  Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  Any
 :  chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
 :   
 : 
 : 
/pub/communicator/english/4.61/unix/supported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/communicator-v461-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz

Make life easier with `sudo apt-get install wget' (or run the command as
root if you haven't installed sudo (and why haven't you??)).

Then just type wget and the URL above (or any other URL) and wget will
fetch the file.  It can be backgrounded so you can do other fun things
while you're waiting ...

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Re: ssh with RSA-key login problem

1999-08-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:

 : Hi,
 : 
 : I have setup sshd on my Debina system, genrated keys for root and user1 
 : with ssh-keygen and put the public key in the file .ssh/authorized_keys. 
 : I have moved the private keys to my Mac where I run a ssh client 
 : (niftytelnet-1.1-ssh-r3). 
 : 
 : root login works without a problem but when I try to login as user1 my 
 : ssh client complains that Server does not allow RSA authentication, or 
 : the public key for user user1 was not accepted. Reverting to password 
 : authentication.
 : 
 : What is wrong?
 : 
 : Debian:/home/user1/.ssh# ls -la
 : total 6
 : drwxr-sr-x   2 user1 user1 1024 Aug  1 15:33 .
 : drwxrwsr-x  10 user1 user1 1024 Aug  1 15:31 ..
 : -rw-rw-r--   1 user1 user1  327 Aug  1 15:33 authorized_keys
 : -rw---   1 user1 user1  523 Aug  1 15:32 identity
 : -rw-rw-r--   1 user1 user1  327 Aug  1 15:32 identity.pub
 : -rw---   1 user1 user1  512 Aug  1 15:31 random_seed

.ssh/authorized_keys is group writable, and that tends to freak out SSH.

`cd; chmod -R g-w .ssh/*' should help.

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Re: [Kernel 2.2.10] Figuring out module-parameters

1999-08-01 Thread Patrik Magnusson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonas Steverud) writes:
 
 I've just built a 2.2.10 kernel on my own (banging my own chest like
 Tarzan[1]) and compiled fat-fs-support as a module (and nls_cp437,
 vfat, hpfs, msdos, ...) but modprobe (or whatever reads
 /etc/conf.modules) complains when I boot.
 
 I have this in  /etc/modutils/filesystems:
 #! /bin/sh
 
 echo \# Filesystems:
 
 if [ x`uname -r`x = x2.0.35x ] ; then
 echo \# No filesystems from /etc/modutils/filesystems
 else
 echo options fat
 echo options msdos
 echo options nls_cp437
 fi
 echo \# Filesystems - end

Hmm, I don't even seem to have a file by that name. (And I can
read my dos partition just fine.) And it seems to me that this
script doesn't do anything useful - it only contains 'echo's.
 
 The problem is that it complains on options fat about missing
 parameters.^^^
What is it?
 How and where do I find out of which options fat (and
 others too for that matter) expects?

I've never had to provide any.

If, when you configured the kernel, you said yes to automatic loading
of modules (and you should've - it makes life a lot easier),
and you have you're (module)dependencies calculated (unless depmod -a
is missing from your startup-scripts you have), you should be able
to 'mount -t [msdos,vfat] ...' and not worry about the rest.
(Or just edit your /etc/fstab to include that partition)

/Patrik


maxalbert: How big IS it?

1999-08-01 Thread maxalbert

On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:06:12 -0500 John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net 
and got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
ftp.netscape.com also connects.
 Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from 
the ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and
type in the first ftp.
 Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  
Any chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
_
No, just a dim flicker of light in a long dark tunnel.
You need this file

/pub/communicator/4.6/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/communicator-v46-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz

and use the netscape 4 installer from debian. Place the downloaded 
file in the /tmp directory and when you use dselect to install the 
netscape4 installer, it will automatically install and set up netscap
communicator.
-- 
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AdVance-Computing Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ# 19460173
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John-- On Brian's advice, I went last night to /pub/communicator/4.6
/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install.  First, I
downloaded the README  checked it out.  Then, as root, I started
downloading communicator-v46-export.x86-unknown-linuxlibc.2.0.tar.gz into
/tmp.  For 3 hours it happily strung #'s across the screen, until,
suddenly, it stopped.  On another console I checked my connection. 
Terminated.  I went to /tmp, and the found file there (or at least part
of it).  Just to see what would happen, I tried to unzip it.  The message
read:  No space left on device.
  Sheesh.  My root partition is 40 megs.  Am I using the wrong /tmp? How
big is this file, anyway?  It says 15M. -- Max

P.S. Does netscape require X11?


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Re: installing new kernel crashed X - Solved

1999-08-01 Thread Micha Feigin

 Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Stephan Hachinger wrote:

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian-user Debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 6:34 PM
 Subject: installing new kernel crashed X - Help
 
 
  I tried to compile an install kernel 2.2.10 on a 486dx2.
  It compiled correctly, but when I tried to install it it wouldn't start
  (halted with a message that it was trying to open some module and couldn't
  find it, and then that it couldn't mount root file system on 03:01.)
  I rebooted with the old kernel (a localy compile 2.2.5).
  I then tried to recompile 2.2.10, reinstalled it, but it still didn't
  work(same error).
  When i went back to the old kernel again and login into x, when i tried to
  log as a normal user, the screen would go blank and then throw me back to
  the login prompt (kdm). It did let me login as root.
  On the text consoles (not x11) i can log in as a normal user.
  What did I kill?
  All i changed was the kernels and lilo (at list as far as i know).
  If it helps, the compilation over filled my hard disk (it showed 0 space
  before starting the compilation)
  The second, the one that crashed the system, I didn't clean the kernel
  source before rebooting.
  Thanx
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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 Dear Micha Feigin,
 
 I've had the X11 Problem, too. Possibly, you forgot to include some network
 drivers/ protocols needed by X11 (TCP/IP etc. I think) in the kernel. I just
 tried different protocols until it ran.
 
 If it can't mount the root fs, you forgot to include a driver for that fs in
 the kernel, I suppose.
 
 By the way, why are you willing to switch to 2.2.10???
 
 You should clean up your hard disk-did it cause any errors when compiling
 the kernel?
 
 
 
 Kind Regards, Stephan Hachinger.
 

Well, If anyone interested the problem was solved:
Don't reboot with an over full disk (over 100% probably swaped?)
It drives the comp crazy. It also spoiled my configurations (only personal
ones, and selectivly).

Also, for old Computers running only two ide disks on a controler, the
kernel needs the ide 2 disk module (Don't remember the name) and compiled
into the kernel, not as a module.

And the new kernel (2.2.10) for some reson, on my computer (Its a 486dx2),
maybe because it's old the newer kernels seem to be more stable.



enlightenment and background

1999-08-01 Thread Oz Dror
When I change background on one session of enlightenment.

on the next session of enlightenment I get the default background not the
new background

any Ideas why?

I have the latest potato versions

-Oz


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backspace character does not exists in xterm,

1999-08-01 Thread Oz Dror
On xterm I have to type crtl-h to generate the backspace character

the backspace character defaults to the delete character

how can I change this default.

Thanks
Oz Dror

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Re: maxalbert: How big IS it?

1999-08-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, Aug 01, 1999 at 05:21:29PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:06:12 -0500 John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net 
 and got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
 ftp.netscape.com also connects.
  Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from 
 the ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and
 type in the first ftp.
  Anyway, I went to /pub and found a large communicator file.  
 Any chance this may be the holy grail? -- Max
 _
 No, just a dim flicker of light in a long dark tunnel.
 You need this file
 
 /pub/communicator/4.6/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/communicator-v46-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz
 
 and use the netscape 4 installer from debian. Place the downloaded 
 file in the /tmp directory and when you use dselect to install the 
 netscape4 installer, it will automatically install and set up netscap
 communicator.
 -- 
 John Foster
 AdVance-Computing Systems
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ# 19460173
 ___
 
 John-- On Brian's advice, I went last night to /pub/communicator/4.6
 /english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install.  First, I
 downloaded the README  checked it out.  Then, as root, I started
 downloading communicator-v46-export.x86-unknown-linuxlibc.2.0.tar.gz into
 /tmp.  For 3 hours it happily strung #'s across the screen, until,
 suddenly, it stopped.  On another console I checked my connection. 
 Terminated.  I went to /tmp, and the found file there (or at least part
 of it).  Just to see what would happen, I tried to unzip it.  The message
 read:  No space left on device.
   Sheesh.  My root partition is 40 megs.  Am I using the wrong /tmp? How
 big is this file, anyway?  It says 15M. -- Max


If the tar.gz is 15 MB and has 50% compression, the untarred archive
would be 30 MB.  15 + 30 = 45; 45  40

If you have a lot of space on some other partition, create a directory
there, mv the archive to that directory, rm -rf /tmp, and symlink it to
the larger space.
 
 P.S. Does netscape require X11?

Yes

Bob

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Re: Debian 2.%$#@*!

1999-08-01 Thread David Karlin
 Wait!  Hold the phone.  I tried entering nslookup ftp.uu.net and
 got an address, so I entered ftp ftp.uu.net and connected!  ftp
 ftp.netscape.com also connects. 
Cripes.  Something so simple!  Entering ftp.netscape.com from the
 ftp prompt gets invalid command. You have to clear the prompt and type
 in the first ftp.

from the ftp prompt you can also do open ftp.foo.com.
from the ftp prompt you can also do help.
from the $ prompt you can do man ftp.

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