Shutdown incompleto y arranque incompleto

2000-10-06 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos

Anoche cuando apague el ordenador, el proceso de shutdown se quedo detenido
despues de enviar las señales KILL y TERM a los procesos del runlevel 0,
tuve que apagar por las bravas, porque de ahi no avanzaba.

Esta mañana cuando he arrancado, el proceso tampoco ha sido completo,
despues de ejecutar lo qu tengo en /etc/rc.boot, deja de hacer cosas y me
presenta (none) login. Tengo el bash, porque puedo hacer login, montar la
particion root en lectura/escritura, ir arrancando cosas de /etc/init.d,
tengo entorno multiususario, creo que establece todas las variables de
entorno, pero no hace el arranque automaticamente (las tengo, pero no he
comprobado que esten todas las que son).

Supongo que el bash estara bien, aunque sea una recompilacion hecha por mi.

Paquetes que se puedan considerar sensibles, y que haya cambiado: bash,
base-files, base-password, todo ello de woody; el bash lo recompile con
opciones -mcpu=pentium y -march=pentium.

He estado buscando sobre todo en /etc algun fichero que defina el runlevel,
tambien he estado mirando mensajes de los log, y no he encontrado nada que
me de una pista. Por si acaso, me he bajado el bash*deb para tratar de
susutituir los binarios.

Saludos.



Problemas con el menu de las X

2000-10-06 Thread pfragosom
Tengo el siguiente problemilla:
He instalado el gnome-chess, el gnuchess y el crafty para poder jugar al
ajedrez en debian.
El primer problema que me surgió fué que no podia ejecutar el gnuchess ni
el crafty. Este problema lo solucioné despues de preguntar en la lista y
llegar a la conclusión que el problema era de la variable PATH, que no
contenia la ruta de estos programas (¿pequeño bug?).
El siguiente problema, que es el que nos ocupa, es que al ejecutar desde el
menu el gnome-chess me dice que no tengo instalado en el sistema ningun
programa de ajedrez. ¿?. Pero más grande es mi sorpresa cuando abro una
ventana Xterm, escribo gnome-chess y voilá funciona perfectamente. se abre
el susodicho con el crafty por defecto.
Entonces me pregunto ¿que carajo se ejecuta cuando pulso en el menu?.
Despues de preguntar un buen rato en el canal #debian del irc-hispano me
entero que estas cosas están en usr/lib/menu.
Voy para allá encuentro el fichero usr/bin/gnome-chess y pone simplemente
command=usr/bin/gnome-chess. Osea que no es que se llame al programa
con algun parametro extraño o algo así.

Despues de pensar un ratito (todo lo que puede pensar un novicio en debian)
creo que el problema es que tanto el gnuchess como el crafty no están en la
variable PATH o algo así de las X, aunque si estan en el PATH del bash, que
es lo que me imagino que tiene el Xterm.

Por tanto pregunta: ¿donde añado el path del gnuchess y del crafty a las X
para que el gnome-chess lo encuentre al ejecutarse desde el menu?

Saludos y gracias por aguantar un mail tan largo.

Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread Fernando
Marta Pla i Castells wrote:
 
 
   Y si mejor decimos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Blu
  
 
 A mi eso siempre me ha parecido una estupidez.
 
 Vaya, vaya, muy bonito, si señor.
 
 En castellano / español cuando se habla de un grupo se utiliza el masculino.
 (Hay que respetar los protocolos, o nos empezaremos a parecer a Microsoft :-)
 
 
 Hablando de protocolos, podría decirte muchas cosas pero solo te diré una:
 en castellano/español ya hace tiempo que se aceptó que se podía llamar a un
 colectivo en femenino (oficialmente). Así que espero que a nadie se le
 caigan los anillos por utilizar el femenino así como a todas nosotras no se
 nos caen por utilizar el masculino. ;-)
 

No tengo constancia de la aprobación oficial de ese uso del lenguaje, pero
la verdad es que me extraña, se me ocurre como mucho que en situaciones de 
mayoría de ejemplares del género femenino (ej. reunión de feministas :-p)
se admita dirigirse al colectivo como nosotras.

Por favor, indícame donde puedo encontrar referencias a ese asunto en la red.

De todas formas tengo que decir que nuestra Academia deja mucho que desear
en algunos aspectos.
Recuerdo el tema del femenino de juez que en su momento aprobarón fuera
jueza
cuando no tenía razón de ser, ya que juez en si mismo no es ni masculino ni
femenino. (y no fueron capaces de dar solución a palabras como policia, 
periodista, etc...).

Que nadie interprete esto como una postura machista, no es el caso.

Bueno, y perdonad por el fuera de asunto. ;-)


Saludos.

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Re: Java: Swing en Linux

2000-10-06 Thread Carlos López
Bueno esto depende. Si estás utilizando programas para
el jdk1.2.2 no necesitas swing porque ya lo lleva
integrado. Si por contra tienes que utilizar el
jdk1.1.8 descarga el de IBM y a continuación descarga
desde la web de sun el paquete swing. Te pondrá que es
para Solaris, pero tranquilo es para todos los unix.
De hecho swing no es que sea portado sino que más
bien es un plugin para el ki de desarrollo, vamos
creo.

--- Xose Manoel Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Ya se que existe una lista específica de Java en
 Debian, pero no voy
 a dar mucho la lata. Sólo preguntar esta pequeña
 curiosidad y punto.
 
 En la Debian-Java-FAQ dice que el Swing no está
 portado para Linux.
 ¿Es esto cierto? Es que me mosquea que hay unos
 cuantos programas en
 Freshmeat hechos con Java que el autor jura y
 perjura que funcionan
 en Linux y necesitan Swing.
 
 ¿El biss-AWT puede substituir a Swing? (Aunque no
 sea igual, que
 pueda hacer mis programas con estas clases).
 
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Re: Debian es Debian [OFF TOPIC total]

2000-10-06 Thread Marta Pla i Castells




No tengo constancia de la aprobación oficial de ese uso del lenguaje, pero
la verdad es que me extraña, se me ocurre como mucho que en situaciones de
mayoría de ejemplares del género femenino (ej. reunión de feministas :-p)
se admita dirigirse al colectivo como nosotras.


No señor, no voy a entrar en polémicas ni me voy a picar. Ante todo, ni 
masculino ni femenino, personas.




Por favor, indícame donde puedo encontrar referencias a ese asunto en la red.


Pues ahora mismo, en este preciso instante ni idea. Pero seguro que habrá 
algo, si lo encuentro te lo mando.




De todas formas tengo que decir que nuestra Academia deja mucho que desear
en algunos aspectos.
Recuerdo el tema del femenino de juez que en su momento aprobarón fuera
jueza
cuando no tenía razón de ser, ya que juez en si mismo no es ni masculino ni
femenino. (y no fueron capaces de dar solución a palabras como policia,
periodista, etc...).

Que nadie interprete esto como una postura machista, no es el caso.


No es machista, no. Tu referencia a las reuniones de feministas así lo 
indican. Pero te vuelvo a decir que no pienso entrar en ese tipo de 
discusiones. No es el lugar ni creo ser la más indicada para discutirlo.


Un saludo. Marta


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Mutt y GTK

2000-10-06 Thread Ricard PG
Buenas,

dos cosillas a ver si alguien me puede ayudar:

1.- Desde mi ultima actualización de la Woody, el Mutt no me deja borrar
correos porque parece que el Mailbox is read-only. He mirado los
permisos del /var/spool/mail/* y son correctos  ideas?

2.- Ya hace tiempo que al intentar compilar algo para GTK me dice que no
tengo el script gtk-config ... alguien sabe en que paquete esta?

Gracias de antemano,

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RV: Shutdown incompleto y arranque incompleto (mas cosas)

2000-10-06 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos

Anoche cuando apague el ordenador, el proceso de shutdown se quedo detenido
despues de enviar las señales KILL y TERM a los procesos del runlevel 0,
tuve que apagar por las bravas, porque de ahi no avanzaba.

Esta mañana cuando he arrancado, el proceso tampoco ha sido completo,
despues de ejecutar lo qu tengo en /etc/rc.boot, deja de hacer cosas y me
presenta (none) login. Tengo el bash, porque puedo hacer login, montar la
particion root en lectura/escritura, ir arrancando cosas de /etc/init.d,
tengo entorno multiususario, creo que establece todas las variables de
entorno, pero no hace el arranque automaticamente (las tengo, pero no he
comprobado que esten todas las que son).

Supongo que el bash estara bien, aunque sea una recompilacion hecha por mi.

Paquetes que se puedan considerar sensibles, y que haya cambiado: bash,
base-files, base-password, todo ello de woody; el bash lo recompile con
opciones -mcpu=pentium y -march=pentium.

He estado buscando sobre todo en /etc algun fichero que defina el runlevel,
tambien he estado mirando mensajes de los log, y no he encontrado nada que
me de una pista. Por si acaso, me he bajado el bash*deb para tratar de
susutituir los binarios.

Saludos.

Hola..., mas cosas:

Segun estoy leyendo, y con los sintomas de mi ordenador, llego a estas
conclusiones, que tendre que comprobar esta tarde en casa.

No se ejecuta ningun script de /etc/rcS.d.

Posiblemente (punto a comprobar), en el shutdown de anoche, no se borro nada
de /var/run, por lo tanto, init (?), piensa que ya se estan ejecutando.

Saludos.



Re: Hacer que un usuario pueda usar ethereal

2000-10-06 Thread Rodolfo García
On jue, 05 oct 2000, Juan Carlos Muro escribió:

 Hola.
 Cuando ejecuto aplicaciones como 'ethereal', tengo problemas para
 acceder a los dispositivos de red (p. ej a 'eth0'), ya que lo hago como
 usuario.
 Esto me obliga a utilizar este programa y otros como root. ¿Hay alguna
 manera 'estandar' de hacer que un usuario pueda? Quiero decir, algún
 grupo especial o algo así ... A priori se me ocurrió cambiar el
 propietario de 'eth0', pero cuél es mi sorpresa al caer que 'eth0' no
 está en '/dev'
 ¿Alguna documentación donde venga eso bien explicado?

El problema es que solo el usuario root puede sniffar paquetes, esto es 
razonable por que sino todos los usuarios mirarían las cosas del resto. Prueba 
con un suid a la aplicación.

Un saludo.

 Gracias:
 
 Juan Carlos Muro
 
 
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Deshabilitar ejecutables

2000-10-06 Thread Carlos López
A las buenas.

¿Sabe alguien si es posible deshabilitar ciertos
ejecutables para ciertas personas de grupos diferentes
(y que no interesa agregarlos a segundos grupos) a
través de los archivos de configuración de las
librerías PAM?.

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Re: Potato-2.2 stable o unstable?

2000-10-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Jose Antonio Ortega Garcia wrote:

 Disculpad pero hay una cosa que me crea confusion. En el fichero
 /etc/apt/source.list en tres de las lineas donde pone deb
 cdrom:[...oficial...] /unstable... Pues eso porque pone unstable? no
 quedamos en que la unstable era en estos momentos la wody? No deberia de
 poner stable? Tengo los 4 cds de la potato-2.2 comprados a opencd.

No sé si me estarán oyendo... pero esto es paranoia de los que
hicieron los CD, combinado con el comportamiento de APT. Me explico:

Según parece, los CDs de prueba de *slink* tenían solamente frozen
(pues ese era el estado de slink) y cuando por fin slink se hizo
stable hubo gente a la que el frozen se le quedó colgado pues los CDs
definitivos solamente contenían stable.

Por no se qué regla de tres, decidieron poner los *tres* enlaces,
stable, frozen y unstable. Eso por un lado.

Por otro, apt-cdrom decide tomar como nombre el del estado (stable,
frozen o unstable) en lugar del de la distribución (potato), y claro,
como hay tres para elegir, pues coge uno cualquiera al buen tuntún.

Para tu tranquilidad, ya he mandado un bicho acerca de esto. Si hay
algo que me molesta en Debian es que la gente haga las cosas por si
acaso en plan supersticioso, en lugar de dejar que las cosas sean
como tienen que ser (el programa de instalación siempre ha buscado
las cosas en stable).



cdrom

2000-10-06 Thread Gerard
Hola lista
Aprovechando que vendian debian en una revista he decidido darle una
oportunidad, y lo estoy instalando
pero tengo una duda a la ahora de añadirle un modulo al kernel (el del cdrom).
Aparece una lista de modulos pero no he visto ninguno para uno atapi (es un
toshiba), y tengo la duda
si los atapi ya vienen soportados por el kernel y no necesitan ningun modulo.

A ver si me pueden ayudar.

Gracias.

P.D.:Cuando lo pruebe unas semanas ya les comentare mi opinion sobre debian ;)






Re: Mutt y GTK

2000-10-06 Thread Santiago Romero
El vie, 06 de oct de 2000, a las 11:04:28 +0200, Ricard PG dijo:
 Buenas,
 
 dos cosillas a ver si alguien me puede ayudar:
 
 1.- Desde mi ultima actualización de la Woody, el Mutt no me deja borrar
 correos porque parece que el Mailbox is read-only. He mirado los
 permisos del /var/spool/mail/* y son correctos  ideas?

 si, le has dado a la tecla % que es la proteger mailbox. vuelve a darle
 y veras como ya te va :)

 2.- Ya hace tiempo que al intentar compilar algo para GTK me dice que no
 tengo el script gtk-config ... alguien sabe en que paquete esta?

 ni idea :?

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Re: cdrom

2000-10-06 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Gerard wrote:

 Hola lista
 Aprovechando que vendian debian en una revista he decidido darle una
 oportunidad, y lo estoy instalando

Haces bien

 pero tengo una duda a la ahora de añadirle un modulo al kernel (el del cdrom).
 Aparece una lista de modulos pero no he visto ninguno para uno atapi (es un
 toshiba), y tengo la duda
 si los atapi ya vienen soportados por el kernel y no necesitan ningun modulo.

Yo nunca he cargado módulos para CDROM. Deben estar soportados por el
kernel. Por si te sirve de algo, te comento que módulos suelo cargar yo.

En las sección 'filesystems' (creo que se llama así, no tengo mi potato
cerca), añaso el 'binfmt-a.out'. Sirve para compatibilidad con ese tipo de
binarios.

Además le añado el 'lp' y el 'serial' de la sección 'misc' para ratón
serie e impresora paralelo.

Y luego le instalo el ne-2000 para la ethernet. Pero este tendrás que
mirarlo un poco más para que sea el que corresponda a tu tarjeta.

De todos modos, mientras te funcione el CDROM (que te funcionará :) ),
todo lo demás lo puedes ir añadiendo después con el programa modconf
(ejecutado como root).

 
 P.D.:Cuando lo pruebe unas semanas ya les comentare mi opinion sobre debian ;)
 

Espero que te guste.

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Re: your mail

2000-10-06 Thread Enzo Dari
Ignacio Garcia Fernandez wrote:
 
 On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Cypenguin wrote:
 
  hola gente
 
  desde argentina y con potato ¿instalado?... en fin.
  una pregunta basica y otras tambien:
  1) cual es el orden de preferencia en la instalacion de paquetes? suggest, 
  recomend, etc..
 
 Lo importante es el orden de configuración. Si le das la orden de
 instalarlos uno por uno con dpkg, pon primero los required. Los suggest y
 los recomend suelen añadir funcionalidades, pero se puede instalar sin
 ellos. Si lo haces on apt o dselect se encarga él de instalarlos en orden.
 ...
Me parece que se está confundiendo la clasificación de paquetes
en distintos grados de prioridad con el grado de dependencia de un
paquete en otro.
Los grados de prioridad de los paquetes debian son:
-Required : Necesarios para el funcionamiento mínimo del sistema.
(el sistema al menos puede bootear e instalar paquetes).
-Important \
-Standard   \ Distintos grados de popularidad
-Optional   /
-Extra /

Cuando un paquete está relacionado con otro/s esta relación puede ser:
-Pre-Depends El paquete *necesita* al otro instalado y configurado 
para funcionar.
-DependsEl paquete *necesita* al otro instalado para funcionar.
-Recommends El paquete va a necesitarlo en su uso normal.
-Suggests   Dependiendo del uso que se le de, probablemente haga falta.
-Conflicts  Los paquetes entran en conflicto
-Replaces   El paquete reemplaza al otro (se utiliza por ejemplo cuando
en una
actualización de la distribución se reordenan los paquetes, cambiando
su nombre).
-Provides   El paquete provee la funcionalidad de un paquete virtual
- hay Más ? 

Lo de las prioridades está bien explicado en el Debian Policy Manual
(del paquete debian-policy). Allí también habla algo sobre la
interrelación de los paquetes, pero no está muy completo (ni una
palabra de Suggests por ejemplo).

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Re: your mail (cambié depends por required)

2000-10-06 Thread Ignacio Garcia Fernandez
Enzo, tienes toda la razón. Según entendí la pregunta, creo que se erfería
a la segunda clasificación (pre-depends, depends, ...). Simplemente
escribí required donde quería escribir depends. Creo que con esta
aclaración lo que dije es correcto... pero bueno, si aún así hay algún
error (o es todo un error) por favor avisadlo, porque entonces ando un
tanto despistado sobre el tema.

Gracias..

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Enzo Dari wrote:

 Ignacio Garcia Fernandez wrote:
  
  On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Cypenguin wrote:
  
   hola gente
  
   desde argentina y con potato ¿instalado?... en fin.
   una pregunta basica y otras tambien:
   1) cual es el orden de preferencia en la instalacion de paquetes? 
   suggest, recomend, etc..
  
  Lo importante es el orden de configuración. Si le das la orden de
  instalarlos uno por uno con dpkg, pon primero los required. Los suggest y
  los recomend suelen añadir funcionalidades, pero se puede instalar sin
  ellos. Si lo haces on apt o dselect se encarga él de instalarlos en orden.
  ...
 Me parece que se está confundiendo la clasificación de paquetes
 en distintos grados de prioridad con el grado de dependencia de un
 paquete en otro.
 Los grados de prioridad de los paquetes debian son:
 -Required : Necesarios para el funcionamiento mínimo del sistema.
 (el sistema al menos puede bootear e instalar paquetes).
 -Important \
 -Standard   \ Distintos grados de popularidad
 -Optional   /
 -Extra /
 
 Cuando un paquete está relacionado con otro/s esta relación puede ser:
 -Pre-Depends El paquete *necesita* al otro instalado y configurado 
 para funcionar.
 -DependsEl paquete *necesita* al otro instalado para funcionar.
 -Recommends El paquete va a necesitarlo en su uso normal.
 -Suggests   Dependiendo del uso que se le de, probablemente haga falta.
 -Conflicts  Los paquetes entran en conflicto
 -Replaces   El paquete reemplaza al otro (se utiliza por ejemplo cuando
 en una
 actualización de la distribución se reordenan los paquetes, cambiando
 su nombre).
 -Provides   El paquete provee la funcionalidad de un paquete virtual
 - hay Más ? 
 
 Lo de las prioridades está bien explicado en el Debian Policy Manual
 (del paquete debian-policy). Allí también habla algo sobre la
 interrelación de los paquetes, pero no está muy completo (ni una
 palabra de Suggests por ejemplo).
 
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6bone

2000-10-06 Thread Angel Vicente Perez
Hola a todos...

He encontrado esto HOWTO:Join the 6bone.

¿Que limitaciones/condicionamientos tiene hacer esto desde España?

¿Se puede hacer sin que cueste un disgusto?

Saludos.



BNU

2000-10-06 Thread Pablo Fanjul Gómez
Holas.
Necesito usar BNU en un debian con kernel 2.0.36. ¿Alguien sabe
donde puedo mirarlo?.
Gracias

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Re: Mutt y GTK

2000-10-06 Thread Luis Arocha -data-
 El vie, 06 de oct de 2000, a las 11:04:28 +0200, Ricard PG dijo:
  2.- Ya hace tiempo que al intentar compilar algo para GTK me dice que no
  tengo el script gtk-config ... alguien sabe en que paquete esta?
 

libgtk1.2-dev: /usr/bin/gtk-config

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Re: ircd

2000-10-06 Thread Juan Carlos Muro


Carles Pina i Estany wrote:

 Hola
 Quiero configurar el ircd...
 De momento he inestalado el paquete, y como usuario hago: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/ircd
 []
 alguien lo ha configurado? qué tocó?

Hola. Yo lo he instalado y no toqué nada. Supongo que sabes que ircd es un 
servidor, y para
concectarte al irc que pretendes montar en tu máquina necesitas un cliente como 
p. ej.
'bitchx'.
Vale, para arrancar el demonio (servidor) de irc (ircd) puedes hacerlo (creo, 
ya que ahora no
estoy en Linux) ejecutando el script '# /etc/init.d/ircd start'. Eso arranca el 
irc como
demonio. Dicho script arranca el demonio con las opciones necesarias para leer 
la
configuración de donde la tenga que leer y demás historias.
Hay otra manera de arrancar los servicios en Un*x. Puedes hacer que el demonio 
'inetd' escuche
las 'llamadas' determinados puertos y que conteste ejecutando el demonio 
correspondiente. En
tu caso, sería hacer que 'inetd' escuche en el puerto 6667, que es el puerto de 
irc, y cuando
llegue un intento de conexión por dicho puerto, lance el demonio.

No dudes en preguntar si tienes más dudas. Un saludo y suerte:

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instalacion woody (pregunta un poco chorra)

2000-10-06 Thread Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras
Hola,
Quiero instalar woody directamente en un PC nuevo, es decir, sin 
instalar potato y luego actualizando.
Sabeis si el programa de instalacion funciona bien? vienen ya las XF4 
directamente para instalar?
La ultima vez que descargue la woody no se podia (alla por marzo).

Gracias!

TA LUEG.
Quimi




Dudas NFS

2000-10-06 Thread Juan Carlos Muro
Hola lista.
Tengo alguna duda con esto del NFS. Esto es lo que trato de hacer:

sadacia:# showmount -e lennon
Export list for lennon:
/var/cache/apt/archives 172.16.11.4

sadacia:# mount lennon:/var/cache/apt/archives/
/mnt/linux2/apt-cache/archives_lennon/
mount: lennon:/var/cache/apt/archives/ failed, reason given by
server: Permission denied

¿Por qué no me deja el servidor?

Otra cosa de paso. ¿Qué tal CODA? ¿De qué va? ¿Lo habéis probado y
merece la pena?

Saludos:

Juan Carlos Muro



Nuevos paquetes para usuarios hispanoparlantes

2000-10-06 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Estoy ahora mismo enviando a la cola de Debian algunos paquetes que
pueden ser interesantes para los usuarios hispanoparlantes.

Entre ellos:
- doc-es-misc: la FAQ de es.comp.os.linux (V2.0)
- manpages-es-1.28: la última versión de manpages-es

Tengo pendiente (tengo que resolver unos problemas antes)
- netscape-es: Netscape localizado al castellano gracias al proyecto nave
(nave.hispalinux.es)
- dict-glosario: el glosario de internet de Rafael Fernández Calvo
(http://www.ati.es/novatica/glosario/glosario_internet.html) a ver si
resolvemos problemas de formato y de licencia.


Los paquetes para usuarios hispanoparlantes que *ya* en Debian (se pueden ver 
rápidamente con un dpkg -l '*-es*')
o consultando http://www.debian.org/international/Spanish. En general, los
recomendados se instalarán al instalar el paquete genérico task-spanish

Un saludo a todos

Javi



Re: Acentos en Netscape

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 11:30:39PM +0200, Chafar wrote:
 Ya he resuelto el tema, pero no con glibc, sino con libc6: No he
 encontrado versión de Netscape para glibc2, pero he instalado la 4.75-2
 para libc6, de security.debian.org, y, como ves, se ha resuelto el
 problema.
 En mi máquina, dselect me ofrece paquetes navigator libc5 y libc6, pero
 ninguna versión bajo glibc:-%.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show libc6
Package: libc6
Priority: required
Section: base
Installed-Size: 7013
Maintainer: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: glibc
Version: 2.1.94-3

Como ves, glibc2 y libc6 es lo mismo ;)

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Re: your mail

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 08:46:09PM -0300, Cypenguin wrote:
 1) cual es el orden de preferencia en la instalacion de paquetes? suggest,
 recomend, etc..

Depends, Recommends, Suggests.

Luego está Provides y Conflicts, y en breve, Enhances.

 2) si quiero gnome, que window manager me recomiendan?

Sawfish es el oficial.

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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 12:38:59PM +0200, Fernando wrote:
 ( por cierto, ¿ como pronuncias [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? :-)

Yo, debianeras.

Y a veces me ahorro la arroba y pongo debianeras a pelo, refiriendome a todo
el colectivo.

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Problemas para cargar el modulo PLIP

2000-10-06 Thread Fermín Manzanedo
Hola,
tengo el módulo 2.2.14 compilado con plip como módulo, al igual que parport. Si 
intento instalar el módulo plip (una vez instalado el parport) me devuelve el 
siguiente error:

asterix:~# insmod plip
Using /lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o
/lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including 
invalid IO or IRQ parameters

Como dice que el error puede venir dado por la mala asignación de IO o IRQ, he 
probado a asignarlas manualmente:

asterix:~# insmod plip io=0x378 irq=7
Using /lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o
/lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o: invalid parameter parm_io

Y lo mismo ocurreo con las otras dos asignaciones (iq=0x278 e iq=0x3bc)

¿A alquien se le ocurre algo? Con el 2.0.36 no me ocurre esto,
un saludo
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ayuda compilación

2000-10-06 Thread TooMany
Buenas.

Estoy compilando el php4 (el último que hay en woody), con la opción
'--with-mcrypt'. Poco a poco, voy solucionando los problemas que tengo
cuando ejecuto el configure con el chorro de opciones que hay que poner.
Pero hay un error que no logro superar (de momento), se para el configure
indicando el siguiente mensaje:

configure: error: Cannot find rfc822.h. Please check your IMAP 
installation

He buscado en la web de Debian, en paquetes, etc, y no encuentro qué debo
instalar ni nada. ¿Puede alguien ayudarme, por favor?

Gracias por todo.

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Re: Problemas con el menu de las X

2000-10-06 Thread Juan Leseduarte
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 08:06:37AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tengo el siguiente problemilla:
 He instalado el gnome-chess, el gnuchess y el crafty para poder jugar al
 ajedrez en debian.
... 
 Despues de pensar un ratito (todo lo que puede pensar un novicio en debian)
 creo que el problema es que tanto el gnuchess como el crafty no están en la
 variable PATH o algo así de las X, aunque si estan en el PATH del bash, que
 es lo que me imagino que tiene el Xterm.

Exacto: si inicias las X con xdm, wdm,  gdm o kdm, el entorno no es el de un
shell de login. 
 
 Por tanto pregunta: ¿donde añado el path del gnuchess y del crafty a las X
 para que el gnome-chess lo encuentre al ejecutarse desde el menu?
 

Para solucionarlo, deberias definir las variables de entorno no en el fichero
/etc/profile, o en ~/.bash_profile, sino en el fichero /etc/environment (si no
existe, porque por defecto no está, créalo). En este fichero debes poner todas
aquellas variables de entorno que quieras ver reconocidas en cualquier shell
como bash, ksh, o zsh, aunque no sea shell de login. Algo de este estilo:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
LANG=es_ES
MM_CHARSET= (etc, etc)
export PATH LANG MM_CHARSET NLSPATH

(Es mejor definir las variables y dejar el export para el final por que es más
compatible entre diferentes shells).

Para que al iniciar las X desde el display manager que hayas elegido, debes
asegurarte de tener en /etc/X11/Xsession lo siguiente (yo lo tengo al principio
mismo):
--
if [ -f /etc/environment ]; then
  . /etc/environment
fi
--
para que lea el /etc/environment al iniciar.
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Re: ayuda compilación

2000-10-06 Thread eloy
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, TooMany wrote:

 [...]

   configure: error: Cannot find rfc822.h. Please check your IMAP 
 installation
   
 He buscado en la web de Debian, en paquetes, etc, y no encuentro qué debo
 instalar ni nada. ¿Puede alguien ayudarme, por favor?
 

El fichero parece que es /usr/include/c-client/rfc822.h y está en
el paquete libc-client4.7-dev de la sección devel.

¿Que cómo lo he encontrado? Agarras el Contents-i386.gz que tienes
en la distribución de Debian y dices

zgrep rfc822.h Contents-i386.gz

El Contents ése te muestra _todos_ los ficheros de la distribución
y el paquete al que pertenecen.

En fin. Espero que con esto avances otro poco en el configure ;-).

Suerte y saludos.

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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread Lluis Vilanova
El jue, 05 de oct de 2000, a las 01:11:37 +0100, Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina 
dijo:
 On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 09:05:57PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
  David Serrano dijo:
Yo empecé  con SuSE 5.1 y  en 5 meses probé  Debian. El próximo
día 5 hará dos meses que instalé la Hamm :^).
  
  Si no me falla la memoria, son dos a¤itos ;-) Justo lo que llevo yo en este 
  berenjenal. 
  Ay que ver lo mucho que me habéis apoyado en este tiempo!
 
 Sólo por curiosidad. ¿Alguien siguió mi mismo camino?:
 
 Slack - borrar - Slack - borrar - Debian  :)
 
 De esto hace ya unos añitos (La debian era 1.3.1/bo) :)
 
Ala!!! Que gracia!! Yo segui este mismo camino, pero mi primera debian
fue la hamm. XD

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Re: hdr_format

2000-10-06 Thread Lluis Vilanova
El jue, 05 de oct de 2000, a las 06:11:49 +0200, Hue-Bond dijo:
 El miércoles 04 de octubre de 2000 a la(s) 23:28:58 +0200, Lluis Vilanova 
 contaba:
 
 Quizas se ha suprimido esta opcion de la configuracion de mutt, o quizas
 la han cambiado de nombre; dime que es lo que se supone que hacia, a lo
 mejor sale algo con otro nombre
 
 Mi version de mutt es la 0.95.3i
 
  Yo tengo 1.0.1-9. No creo que la hayan suprimido como tú dices,
  sino más bien la habrán añadido :^).
Ooops, perdon :)
Tendras razon, es que hace tiempo que no actualizo pq tengo que recibir
unos CDs de potato em brebe (en muy brebe, espero)

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RE: Necesito beta-testers

2000-10-06 Thread Ricardo Villalba

-Mensaje original-
De: Amaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: martes 3 de octubre de 2000 21:34
Asunto: Re: Necesito beta-testers


Ricardo Villalba dijo:
 Ya está casi terminado, me falta traducir la documentación al inglés,

Cuenta conmigo. Soy una especie de enferma de los diccionarios ;-)

Te lo agradezco enormemente :-))

Por cierto ya he puesto página web con un screenshot de la ventana del
programa para los que prefieren echarle un vistazo antes de decidirse:

http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/rvmsoft/palabros/index.html

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RE: Dudas NFS

2000-10-06 Thread Alberto Rodríguez
Prueba a reiniciar el demonio nfs. En ocasiones eso me ha funcionado.

Saludos y suerte

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From: Juan Carlos Muro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lista Debian Spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: Dudas NFS


 Hola lista.
 Tengo alguna duda con esto del NFS. Esto es lo que trato de hacer:

 sadacia:# showmount -e lennon
 Export list for lennon:
 /var/cache/apt/archives 172.16.11.4

 sadacia:# mount lennon:/var/cache/apt/archives/
 /mnt/linux2/apt-cache/archives_lennon/
 mount: lennon:/var/cache/apt/archives/ failed, reason given by
 server: Permission denied

 ¿Por qué no me deja el servidor?

 Otra cosa de paso. ¿Qué tal CODA? ¿De qué va? ¿Lo habéis probado y
 merece la pena?

 Saludos:

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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 06:08:26PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 12:38:59PM +0200, Fernando wrote:
  ( por cierto, ¿ como pronuncias [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? :-)
 
 Yo, debianeras.
 
 Y a veces me ahorro la arroba y pongo debianeras a pelo, refiriendome a todo
 el colectivo.

Joer Jordi. Nosotros no podemos evitar que te salga el ramalazo ese tan
raro, pero al menos, no lo digas tan claro, que se te ve el plumero X)



SQUID

2000-10-06 Thread Lemus Moreno Jose A
Que tal lista. Hace tiempo ped ayuda para configurar mi squid 
y alguien tuvo la amabilidad de pasarme las lineas necesarias para que
arranque, desgraciadamente borre el mail si fuera tan amable la persona
que me lo paso de pasarmelo de nuevo se lo agradeceria muchisimo

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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread jvicente

Porque no usar debianenses?




Destinatarios: debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
CC:(cci: JUAN VICENTE/BANELCO/AR)
Asunto:   Re: Debian es Debian




On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 12:38:59PM +0200, Fernando wrote:
 ( por cierto, ¿ como pronuncias [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? :-)
Yo, debianeras.
Y a veces me ahorro la arroba y pongo debianeras a pelo, refiriendome a
todo
el colectivo.
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Re: ircd

2000-10-06 Thread Carles Pina i Estany

Hola

 
 Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
 
  Hola
  Quiero configurar el ircd...
  De momento he inestalado el paquete, y como usuario hago: [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/ircd
  []
  alguien lo ha configurado? qué tocó?
 
 Hola. Yo lo he instalado y no toqué nada. Supongo que sabes que ircd es un 
 servidor, y para
pues yo tuve que tocar una linia del /etc/ircd/ircd.conf, si recuerdo
bien. Creo que era descomentarla, lo encontré en un howto

aunque no lo ejecutaba con el script y start tal como dices, sinó que lo
arrancaba llamando al ircd

lo del inetd.conf y servicio tipo demonio a saco ya lo conocía, pero
gracias!


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RV: kernel-source-2.2.17.tar.bz2

2000-10-06 Thread Josean


-Mensaje original-
De: Josean
Enviado el: viernes, 06 de octubre de 2000 22:48
Para: Debian-User-Spanish
Asunto: kernel-source-2.2.17.tar.bz2


Como lo véis. Estoy intentado compilar el núcleo y en mi directorio /usr/src
me aparece este archivo. ¿Es el que debo de descomprimir para su posterior
compilación? Si es así ¿Cómo narices se hace esto? No conozco esa
terminación bz2??
Bueno, un saludo.



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Re: ircd

2000-10-06 Thread carlos saldaña
Juan Carlos Muro dijo:
 Carles Pina i Estany wrote:
 
  Hola
  Quiero configurar el ircd...
  []
  alguien lo ha configurado? qué tocó?
 
 Hola. Yo lo he instalado y no toqué nada 
[...]

Yo instalé hace tiempo (cuando tenía el dhis) el paquete ircd de 
slink; sólo me gustaría decir que, en efecto, no había que tocar 
nada para que funcionase, pero la configuración por defecto dejaba
entrada a to quisqui. No he instalado el de Potato, así que no sé si
ese punto ya ha sido mejorado, pero quiero advertir de ese agujero
por si continúa dando acceso universal.
No conservo el documento de configuración, pero recuerdo que limité
los accesos _sólo_ a las direcciones deseadas apoyándome en el documento 
de conf  de un ircd*.tar o un ircd*.rpm, donde venían muchas más 
opciones para configurar -restringir- los accesos.
Perdón por inmiscuirme y no aportar nada.

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Re: 6bone

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 04:28:06PM +0200, Angel Vicente Perez wrote:
 ¿Que limitaciones/condicionamientos tiene hacer esto desde España?

Si encuentras un gateway decente, dímelo, por favor :)

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Re: instalacion woody (pregunta un poco chorra)

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 06:13:44PM +0200, Joaquin Fernandez Piqueras wrote:
 Quiero instalar woody directamente en un PC nuevo, es decir, sin 
 instalar potato y luego actualizando.
 Sabeis si el programa de instalacion funciona bien? vienen ya las XF4 
 directamente para instalar?

No, los boot-floppies no están para probar todavía. De hecho, el
directorio disks-i386 está vacío. Y no, X4 todavía no es oficial.

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Re: Debian es Debian

2000-10-06 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 07:55:44PM +0100, Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina wrote:
 Joer Jordi. Nosotros no podemos evitar que te salga el ramalazo ese tan
 raro, pero al menos, no lo digas tan claro, que se te ve el plumero X)

Hahahaha, ya te pillaré en Madrid, ya... :P

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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread Hans Engren
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Jonas Jacobsson wrote:

 Finns det något x-interface för dselect?
 Om inte, VARFÖR!?

Ett X-interface för dselect skulle kännas onödigt. Ett UNIX-system ska du,
IMHO, inte administrera enbart via X, eftersom detta begränsar dina
möjligheter att administrera systemet remote.

Ett X-interface skulle säkerligen underlätta för lokal administration, men
den dag du vill göra någonting remote, och enbart har en simpel
VT100-terminal (eller liknande), så kan samma textbaserade applikation
te sig något främmande.

UNIX lämpar sig bäst för serverdrift, även om det idag finns underbara
applikationer för ditt skrivbord. På en server ska du absolut inte
behöva köra X, eftersom det är minneskrävande, och kan vara ett
säkerhetshål om det är felaktigt uppsatt (vilket det, hos många, är).

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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread Joel Kjellgren
Hej,

För det första är Dselect ganska gammalt, satsa på apt-get istället. till
apt-get finns ett antal curses-baserade frontends, bl.a. console-apt
som ger dig ett lätthanterat register med alla tillgängliga paket. Du kan
lägga till, ta bort, söka, kolla status, dependencies osv. Något renodlat
välfungerande grafiskt gränssnitt för X har jag inte stött på ännu,
gnome-apt ser dock lovande ut även om det fortfarande har en bit kvar till
den pålitlighet man vill ha. Om apt-get inte är installerat så måste du
trycka in det först, sedan ska du kunna köra 'apt-get update' först för
att uppdatera listan med tillgängliga paket, sedan kan du köra till
exempel 'apt-get install gnome-apt' för att installera det programmet samt
allt vad det kräver. Observera att standardinställningarna för apt-get är
att tanka ner det du vill installera från internet så om du inte har en
fungerande uppkoppling av någon forn så måste du köra mot CDs eller
liknande.

Mvh Joel Kjellgren

On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Jonas Jacobsson wrote:

 Finns det något x-interface för dselect?
 Om inte, VARFÖR!?
 
 Jag är iofs nybörjare, men jag tycker det
 är trist att man inte utnyttjar X så mycket
 som möjligt. Menar, så länge det finns ett
 textbaserat alternativ så är ju ingen skada
 skedd?
 
 Vad tycker ni?
 
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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread Jonas Liljegren
Jonas Jacobsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Finns det något x-interface för dselect?

Ja.  Gnome har gnome-apt.  

Stormix har stormpkg. (  deb ftp://ftp.stormix.com/storm hail main contrib )

Och Helixcode (kommer att) ha redcarpet. ( 
http://primates.helixcode.com/~vladimir/rc/ )


Själv använder jag aptitude.

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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread Gunnar Isaksson
Jonas Jacobsson wrote:
 
 Alltså dselect skrevs på den tiden då Debian endast hade några
 hundra paket att välja från och var då fullt tillräcklig.
 Idag med 4000 paket så är den väl jobbig att använda.
 
 Jag använder 'apt-get' och 'apt-cache' exempelvis
 på följande sätt.
 
   o  Installation av det berömda strategispelet FREECIV.
 [...]
 
 Tack så otroligt för det! Suverän instruktion! :)
 
 Andreas Schuldei nämnde också något om ett X frontend
 för apt. Är det något du är bekant med?
 

Njae, jag installerar programvaran oftast remote över nätverk
genom en 'ssh' session och då funkar apt-xxx väldigt smidigt. Jag
har förståss en lokal 'mirror' av hela Debian potato med non-free
etc och behöver inte skyffla CD-skivor fram och tillbaka.

Det fanns tidigare ett program capt eller något liknande som hade ett
tjusigare och lite mer lätthanterligt gränssnitt men det ser inte
ut som att det är kvar.

Personligen har jag den erfarenheten att om man inte exakt vet
vad man vill ha så är det som att hamna i en snårskog och svårt
att hitta rätt. Då blir just 'apt-cache search x' räddningen
och man kan prova att söka på lite olika saker och kolla om de
är nåt att ha genom 'apt-cache show '.

Då jag är helt vilse brukar jag gå in på http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/
vilket kan ge lite vinkar om vilka paket som kan vara intressanta.

Problemet är inte om gränssnittet är kommandoradsbaserat
eller grafiskt utan den enorma mängd programvaror som man har att
välja på. Tänk det var bara några år sedan som Bill Gates
lakejer påstod att det inte fanns några programvaror till Linux.


//Gunnar Isaksson



Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread Jacob Jovelou
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 10:10:05AM +0200, Gunnar Isaksson wrote:
 Det fanns tidigare ett program capt eller något liknande som hade ett
 tjusigare och lite mer lätthanterligt gränssnitt men det ser inte
 ut som att det är kvar.

Paketet som 'capt' kommer med heter console-apt, och för att kunna installera
det krävs det att man angett sökväg till woody (unstable) i sin
/etc/apt/sources.list.

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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread peter karlsson
Jonas Jacobsson:

 Finns det något x-interface för dselect?

Tja, du kan ju alltid testa gnome-apt. Det är inte DSelect, men det är
ju mest bara positivt :)

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Re: Grafisk DSelect

2000-10-06 Thread anders
Hej!
Dselect är rätt stökigt IMHO.
Jag är synskadad och har med min brailedisplay försökt använda eländet
utan gott resultat.
Min display är mjukvarustyrd och har inte heller någon anpassning för
mjuka markörer.
Däremot vet jag de som lyckats med hårdvarustyrda displayer, eftersom de
läser direkt från grafikkortet.
Själv använder jag apt-get som visserligen inte alltid funkar men när det
funkar är det kanon.
Men det har tyvärr sina fel och brister som är rätt så irriterande.
Mvh Anders.





Re: Configurar cores do ls para todos os users e configurar o servidor xfs-xtt

2000-10-06 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
 Olá lista,
 1) Eu gostaria de saber em qual arquivo eu devo colocar o alias para que o
 ls será rodado como ls -la --color. Eu acabei de instalar o Debian 2.2 e ele
boa escolha. ;)
 sugere que as alterações sejam feitas no .bash_.. de cada usuário, mas eu
 sei que é possível setar isso para todos os usuários de uma única vez. Eu
 coloquei os aliases em /etc/bash.bashrc (algo parecido; o único arquivo que
 tinha referência ao bash) e eu não consigo cores no console, só no xterm, o
 que eu até estranhei.
coloca no /etc/profile
 2) Eu gostaria de saber se alguém usa o servidor xfs-xtt para fontes TTF e
 gostaria de saber quais opções devem ser mudadas e quais arquivos
 configurados, poruqe eu li um README que veio com o programa mas não
 consegui fazê-lo funcionar. Eu consegui configurar o xfstt, mas eu queria
 usar esse outro porque ele substitui o xfs do Xfree.
 Bom, muito obrigado e eu vou continuar procurando lá no histórico pra ver se
 acho alguma coisa.
bem. Eu uso xfstt mesmo. :(
 Até mais.
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modem performance w/pon vs. wvdial

2000-10-06 Thread John Anderson
I have been experiencing slow and erratic connections using pon and a
Best Data external modem.  When I tried the modem with Wvdial and manually
patched wvdial.conf so that I would have the default initialization
string, it seems to be more responsive.

Do I need to change the modem initialization string (inside the modem), if
so, how do I accomplish that?  I would rather use pon as it seems to be
somewhat easier to use for normal users.

The modem takes a second or two to initialise using pon, but initialises
instantly when using wvdial.  Any help would be appreciated!
===
John Kerr Anderson
Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
===



Re: SiS 530

2000-10-06 Thread Art Edwards
What version of XFree86 are you running? I have built systems running
SiS cards successfuly by using a fairly current version (3.3.6 or
higher). I include a web page from the SFree86 website for reference

http://www.XFREE86.org/4.0.1/Status28.html#28

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Re: Apache compile error

2000-10-06 Thread Nate Amsden
ObeseWhale wrote:

 error on the file I had a typo on...  Any suggestions?

yes, include output from make that says what is going on and if needed
include a copy of your Configuration file(if you modified it at all)

nate

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Memory usage confusion

2000-10-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi all,

I'm trying to figure out how much memory some of my applications are
gobbling up.  Although the output of tools such as ps and top or cat
/proc/pid/status give me heaps of numbers I am not sure which ones
I ought to be looking at.

If some kind soul would explain (or give an RTFM hint) the meaning of
and differences between

  ps aux:  VSZ, RSS
  top   :  SIZE, RSS, SHARE
  /proc/pid/status: Vm*

I would appreciate it.

Just for reference some output for a single process (X server)

bash-2.03$ ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 25513  0.2  3.8 13312 4844 ?S14:09   0:01 
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA :1

bash-2.03$ top
 PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
25513 root   0   0 11056 4844  1848 S   0  0.0  3.8   0:01 XF86_SVGA

bash-2.03$ cat /proc/25513/status
Name:   XF86_SVGA
State:  S (sleeping)
Pid:25513
PPid:   25512
Uid:0   0   0   0
Gid:0   0   0   0
Groups: 0 
VmSize:13312 kB
VmLck: 0 kB
VmRSS:  4844 kB
VmData: 2884 kB
VmStk:68 kB
VmExe:  2764 kB
VmLib:  1092 kB
SigPnd: 
SigBlk: 
SigIgn: 80301000
SigCgt: 418046cb
CapInh: 
CapPrm: feff
CapEff: feff
bash-2.03$

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Re: Can shell-script be setuid ?

2000-10-06 Thread Brad
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:51:03PM -0400, William T Wilson wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Alex V. Toropov wrote:
 
  Can I make a shell script setuid ?
 
 No.  Linux doesn't support this since it is insecure.  It works with perl
 scripts only, because Perl does some extra checks and explicit handling to
 make it work.

Also, doesn't perl use a special suid binary to run these scripts,
because as far as the kernel is concerned it just hands it to
/usr/bin/perl non-suid. Perl detects that the script is suid, and does
the security handling and restarts suid with that binary.


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Re: Can shell-script be setuid ?

2000-10-06 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Brad wrote:

 Also, doesn't perl use a special suid binary to run these scripts,
 because as far as the kernel is concerned it just hands it to
 /usr/bin/perl non-suid. Perl detects that the script is suid, and does
 the security handling and restarts suid with that binary.

Just so, just so.



Fwd: LPRNG / Re: (reiserfs) 2.4.0-test9 with 3.6.17 errors

2000-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
I am using the latest LPRNG package and some of it's files have become 
stuffed.  Could someone please tell me what these files rlp and acct in the 
/var/spool/lpd might have originally been?  Also any other information on how 
they are used could be handy in tracking down this ReiserFS bug.

Please reply either direct to me or send to me and the list, I am not 
subscribed...

Thanks for your help.


Russell Coker

--  On Thu, 05 Oct 2000, Chris Mason wrote:  --
Subject: Re: (reiserfs) 2.4.0-test9 with 3.6.17 errors
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:51:08 -0400
From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--On 10/05/00 11:03:22 +0200 Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's what I am getting from dmesg:

 vs-13042: reiserfs_read_inode2: [84920 84925 0x0 SD] not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84925) not found
 vs-13042: reiserfs_read_inode2: [84920 84926 0x0 SD] not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84926) not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84926) not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84925) not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84926) not found
 vs-13048: reiserfs_iget: bad_inode. Stat data of (84920 84926) not found

 Here is what I do to trigger such messages:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/spool/lpd/lp#ls -l
 ls: rlp: Permission denied
 ls: acct: Permission denied

One other question, were these files or directories?

-chris

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Re: Can not allocate colormap

2000-10-06 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:01:44PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 08:29:18PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
 
  I can not see how that can rectify the situation.  I get this problem
  without netscape or any other colour intensive application running.
 
 What colour depth are you running?

16.  The same happens on 32.

However, I solved gvim's problem by putting 

Vim*scrollBackground:   Black
Vim*scrollForeground:   Blue

in ~/.vimrc

The same 

GV*scrollBackground:Black
GV*scrollForeground:Blue

did not work for GV.

Johann.
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setuid question

2000-10-06 Thread Johann Spies
Can somebody explain to me what setuid does?

I have installed Debian 2.2 and copied my old home(~) directory on to the
new installation.  The difference between the old home and the new one
is 

old: drwxr-xr-x
new: drwxr-sr-x

Now I can not as user run binaries situated in my own bin directory.

I thought a setup like that would allow only me or users of my group
to run binaries in my home directory.

Johann
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  sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight 
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Re: balsa mozilla ...

2000-10-06 Thread Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note



> .P.S. Mon pointeur de souris est correct sous win
et dans
> XF86Setup mais il n'apparait pas sous X11 et je ne comprend
> pas d'o cela vient et comment rsoudre le probme.
> ( Il est reprsent par trois ou quatre barres verticales
et
> c'est pareil avec la slack 7.0.)

Essaie de jouer avec l'option de curseur hardware de ta carte graphique
(hwcursor ou quelque chose comme ca dans XF86Config).
De le desactiver, pas exemple.
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Message: ++read_ahead not set++ in /proc/mdstat

2000-10-06 Thread Andre Strenger
Hi all, 

I am running 2.2 with kernel 2.2.17 and raidtools2 0.90.
At boot time md-driver tolds me he is version 0.36.6 
/etc/raidtab is configured as shown in HOWTO and also the 
devices was made (type FD). After a mkraid /dev/md0 I get the errormessage 
above. I didnt find any hints to this message 
has somebody a good Idea or a little hint ??? 
Thanks  have a nice day, 

Greetings from Germany 
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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

2000-10-06 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:13PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
 
 I'm just over a month into Debian and have hassled the list with
 lots of my configuration problems. That being said, the
 conversion from Mandrake to Debian was relatively painless and I
 actually preferred the very interactive Debian approach; and am
 slowly discovering that almost all the information I need to sort
 out my problems is sitting here inside my box.   RTFM remains
 some of the best advice around, though sometimes it helps to be
 told where TFM IS!
 
 What I need (not a complete newbie but not an expert by any
 means) is actually some help finding a path through the
 documentation; perhaps a list of the docs that would be most
 helpful to a beginner trying to, say, compile a kernel, or
 configure sound, sort out X or set up a small network.  Part of
 the fascination of any kind of Linux is figuring it out and
 getting under the bonnet (as we say over here); but some guidance
 as to where the helpful bits of the docs are would help a lot.  

wouldn't it be nice if there were just a HELP command?

*something* for the newbie to stumble onto that'll point out
likely suspects when it comes to looking for answers...?

% help
help: Command not found.

duh!

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Re: ODP: Debian chicken (was: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation)

2000-10-06 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:10:07PM -0400, Andy Bastien wrote:
 There are those who would have you believe that Keith G. Murphy wrote:
  
  George Bonser wrote:
   
   
I for one would buy a t-shirt with the chicken printed on it. Any
takers?
   
   
   hmmm ... now that sounds really cool. Make the Debian mascot a
   chicken! I kinda like it. How about a logo with a penguin and a chicken,
   wing/flipper over each others shoulder! So cool!
   
  Well, the old logo did look like a chick, after all.
  
  On the other hand we could make it a cock, er, I mean rooster.
  
 
 I suppose that would go with woody.

set phrasers on pun.

awful!

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(1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1

2000-10-06 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,


I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is almost 
impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I installed 
XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By the way, more 
info about installing X with ATI card can be found at
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html

I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing XFS. So 
far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove S30xfs from 
/etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. 

I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. The 
buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no idea why and 
what I can do about this.

Anybody any ideas??


P.S.: I already posted this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, sorry for 
cross-posting this message.

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Gpm problem: Where is /dev/gpmctl?

2000-10-06 Thread ShunTim . Luk
Hi,

Would be grateful to any pointers to the solution of this gpm problem .

After a recent upgrading to 1.19.3-4, gpm no longer
functioned. I lost the mouse pointer in mc. It seems that /dev/gpmctl is lost
although the gpm server did start at boot. I was told that it may be a pipe but
mknod /dev/gpmctl -p did not work. Reinstalling gpm and libgmp1 also didn't
work. I can use the mouse in X, though (with /dev/psaux as device and and ps2 as
protocol). I'm using woody with kernel 2.2.17 if that matters.

Regards,
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how program can use more than 256 processes

2000-10-06 Thread George Chavdarov
 Hello all,
 i have following problem
 maximum limit of processes is 256 for any user
 kernel supports up to 1024 (kernel 2.2)
 how i can make user to have more than 256 processes in fact i need it for
 mysql
 ulimit in shell and set it in /etc/limits.conf dont work.
 any ideas
 
 Best regards, George Chavdarov
 System administrator, www.dir.bg
 



Re: separate alias/redirect files for different domains using sendmail

2000-10-06 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 10:52:48PM +0200, Taco IJsselmuiden wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I'm trying to figure out how to be able to use separate alias/redirect
 files for different domains (like a .redirect in their home-dir), so I (as
 admin) don't have to keep updating the aliases, because someone wants an
 extra email-alias for his/her domain, but I can't find anything ;((
 
 Is it a 'standard' sendmail-config, or do i need an other package.

on my potato box,
man sendmail
shows
SYNOPSIS
exim [options] arguments ...
mailq [options] arguments ...
rmail [options] arguments ...
rsmtp [options] arguments ...
runq [options] arguments ...
sendmail [options] arguments ...
so these are all related.

in my /etc/exim.conf i've got

local_domains = 
localhost:*dontUthink.com:partial-lsearch;/etc/exim/DOMAINS

and further down in the 'directors' section:

# check aliases for virtual hosts --
#   virtual hostname--alias file mapping is in /etc/exim/DOMAINS
#   alias@hostname--is in /etc/exim/virtual from DOMAINS
#   and global default aliases '*: someone' is possible in each
#   virtual host alias file, because we use 'search_type=lsearch*'

virtual_aliases:
driver = aliasfile
domains = partial-lsearch;/etc/exim/DOMAINS
file_transport = address_file
pipe_transport = address_pipe
file = /etc/exim/${domain_data}
search_type = lsearch*

now, the /etc/exim/DOMAINS file resembles this:

# *.domain.name /etc/exim/aliasfile
*.dontuthink.com:   dontuthink
*.serensoft.com:serensoft
*.bucks2browse.com: bucks2browse
*.buckstobrowse.com:bucks2browse

any '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' address is looked up in the
config file /etc/exim/dontuthink; any email to someone in
the '@buckstobrowse.com' or '@bucks2browse.com' domain
is directed to aliases in the /etc/exim/bucks2browse file.

for instance, /etc/exim/dontuthink could look like this:
puz:will
admin:  will
kat*:   kat
sales:  rdt
*:  will

so mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go to user 'kat';
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go to user 'will'
(by default, thanks to the final '*' alias).

--

for your domain-per-user setup (as i gather from your
message) you can instead refer to individual user alias
files:

# /etc/exim.conf
virtual_aliases:
driver = aliasfile
domains = partial-lsearch;/etc/exim/DOMAINS
file_transport = address_file
pipe_transport = address_pipe
# here's the kicker: ###
file = /home/${domain_data}/.mail_aliases
# or whatever you need for your setup###
search_type = lsearch*

cool, eh? (if one of your users doesn't have a matching
.mail_aliases file -- or has a corrupt one -- well, let's
just say you should test for that situation and see what
happens, and how to recover...)

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Fetchmail problem: long pauses

2000-10-06 Thread Anthony Campbell

In the last few days I have a problem with fetchmail. It has slowed down
dramatically.

At each ISP mailserver I connect to the following happens:

Fetchmail starts to read the first message and says it is rewriting
various addresses. It then hang for about 3 minutes before starting to
collect all the mail. This goes normally but the same thing happens at
the next ISP.

Using the -vv switch doesn't show any errors.

I think something must be misconfigured but what? I don't remember
changing anything.

Anthony

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Re: nvi/ex keeps mailing me....

2000-10-06 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 04:26:12PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 05:26:32PM -0500, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  but even with -r, the 'recoverable' sessions all show up in different
  vi buffers... if you don't want to save what's in all those buffers,
  how do you make them go away? even with ^Wc to close, vi says
  check other buffers even if i've already ^Wc closed them...
 
 I don't use nvi.

i don't either. elvis lives! (is there a grudge against elvis? pro's? con's?)

 vim saves temp files under the local directory as a hidden (dot) file,
 IIRC.  A few judicious 'ls -a's might turn up something interesting.

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Re: Basic Debian firewall

2000-10-06 Thread will trillich
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 08:01:31AM -0500, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote:
something in html, if you can believe it
ah, here it is...
About this,

In my linuxbox startup configuration, I don't know where are the
initialization scripts for ipchains, or where can I put my own
scripts, someone knows where is the right place?

all DEBIAN init stuff is in /etc/init.d/* ...

for runlevel N, look in /etc/rcN.d/* (e.g. for
the default runlevel 2, try /etc/rc2.d/*). those are
symlinks to the actual scripts in /etc/init.d/*.

K* are run as 'command stop' to halt a daemon, and
S* are run as 'command start' to launch a daemon or
start some service.

man update-rc.d

update-rc.d is a handy command to link and unlink
/etc/init.d/* scripts into and out-of various /etc/rc*.d/
directories (runlevels).

but--

ignore all that if you can avoid it.

1) apt-get install ipmasq
2) set up your /etc/network/interfaces
3) ifup -a

4) ipmasq

5) do productive work

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2.2.4pre9 and modules

2000-10-06 Thread mallum
Aloha All;

To get support for my new ata100 drive , last night I installed the 2.2.4pre9
kernel ( using kernel-package ) . It all went fine (the drive worked) ... but
then I noticed non of the modules Id selected seemed to be loading on boot.

I checked /lib/modules/2.2.4pre9 and non of the modules Id selected during the
kernel config were there. I tried again and again but alas no modules seemed
to be getting compiled. I checked the docs for kernel-package and it said
something about modules not being compiled when the kernel version has an
epoch ?

Am I doing something completely stupid here ?

mallum



Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

2000-10-06 Thread Brent Buchholz
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, will trillich wrote:

On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:13PM +0100, Glyn Millington wrote:
   % help
   help: Command not found.


What shell are you using?

ihatemilk:/home/ihatemilk% help
GNU bash, version 2.04.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu)
These shell commands are defined internally.  Type `help' to see this list.
Type `help name' to find out more about the function `name'.
Use `info bash' to find out more about the shell in general.

A star (*) next to a name means that the command is disabled.

 %[DIGITS | WORD] []   . filename
 :  [ arg... ]
 alias [-p] [name[=value] ... ] bg [job_spec]
 bind [-lpvsPVS] [-m keymap] [-f fi break [n]
 builtin [shell-builtin [arg ...]]  case WORD in [PATTERN [| PATTERN].
 cd [-PL] [dir] command [-pVv] command [arg ...]
 compgen [-abcdefjkvu] [-A action]  complete [-abcdefjkvu] [-pr] [-A a
 continue [n]   declare [-afFrxi] [-p] name[=value
 dirs [-clpv] [+N] [-N] disown [-h] [-ar] [jobspec ...]
 echo [-neE] [arg ...]  enable [-pnds] [-a] [-f filename] 
 eval [arg ...] exec [-cl] [-a name] file [redirec
 exit [n]   export [-nf] [name ...] or export 

Oh, and don't forget about dhelp either.

Brent



Re: setuid question

2000-10-06 Thread Colin Watson
Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can somebody explain to me what setuid does?

I have installed Debian 2.2 and copied my old home(~) directory on to the
new installation.  The difference between the old home and the new one
is 

old: drwxr-xr-x
new: drwxr-sr-x

That isn't setuid, it's setgid (set-group-id) - and it isn't really
related to your problem at all. The setgid bit on a directory causes all
files created in that directory to have the same group as the directory
by default.

Now I can not as user run binaries situated in my own bin directory.

I thought a setup like that would allow only me or users of my group
to run binaries in my home directory.

That'll be determined by the ownership and permissions of the binaries
in question. My suspicion is that you created a new user with the same
name as your old one when you installed Debian, but weren't aware that
it's actually the *number* of the user id that matters, not the name; by
default, Red Hat-derived distributions start their numbering at 500,
while Debian-derived distributions start at 1000. You can either change
your user id's number in /etc/passwd (and run 'pwconv' if you're using
shadow passwords) or else use a combination of 'find' and 'xargs' to
change the ownership of all the files in your home directory.

If I'm right, then instead of seeing symbolic user names in the output
of 'ls -l ~', you'll see numeric user ids.

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Re: 2.2.4pre9 and modules

2000-10-06 Thread Damian Menscher
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, mallum wrote:

 To get support for my new ata100 drive , last night I installed the 2.2.4pre9
 kernel ( using kernel-package ) . It all went fine (the drive worked) ... but
 then I noticed non of the modules Id selected seemed to be loading on boot.
 
 I checked /lib/modules/2.2.4pre9 and non of the modules Id selected during the
 kernel config were there. I tried again and again but alas no modules seemed
 to be getting compiled. I checked the docs for kernel-package and it said
 something about modules not being compiled when the kernel version has an
 epoch ?

Just to be sure, did you remember to do a
make modules
make modules_install
?

Once the modules are there in /lib/modules/release/ check that they are
listed in your /etc/modules file.

HTH,

Damian Menscher
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Re: (1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1

2000-10-06 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Stefan,

Seems to me more like a xdvi configuration problem. Are you sure, that you
havn't specified the expert option either in your X-resources or on the
command line? Because that would make the buttons go away.

Regards,
Daniel

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is almost 
 impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I installed 
 XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By the way, more 
 info about installing X with ATI card can be found at
 http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
 
 I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing XFS. 
 So far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove S30xfs from 
 /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. 
 
 I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. The 
 buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no idea why 
 and what I can do about this.
 
 Anybody any ideas??
 
 
 P.S.: I already posted this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, sorry for 
 cross-posting this message.
 
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Software to record console output (sort of...)

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Hi gang,

I remember years and year ago, when I first installed debian (bo, I
think), the install instructions recommended that you run this little
program that records everything that happens on the console. I think it
just saves it to an ascii file with escape codes, but if you catted the
resulting file, it would play back everything on the screen, so you
could see what you screwed^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hdid.

Someone has asked me to do something and record what I do so that he can
see how it works, but I can't for the life of me remember what this
program was called. I've tried searching through apt-cache and apropos
for record, script, pager, etc., but no joy.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Can anyone remember what it was
called?

cheers,

damon

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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth James Antill, 
  Try apt-find.
 
 # dpkg -S apt-find
 dpkg: *apt-find* not found.
 # apt-get install apt-find 
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 E: Couldn't find package apt-find

I think what he means is apt-cache. Try man apt-cache.

cheers,

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Re: Software to record console output (sort of...)

2000-10-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:39:17PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote:
 
 Someone has asked me to do something and record what I do so that he can
 see how it works, but I can't for the life of me remember what this
 program was called. I've tried searching through apt-cache and apropos
 for record, script, pager, etc., but no joy.

script is what your looking for, its in bsdutils.

 Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Can anyone remember what it was
 called?

script

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kernel-2.2's ip_masq* modules equivalent in 2.4 kernel to use netfilter

2000-10-06 Thread Livia Admin
hi lists.
i'm just trying to get ready in using netfilter in 2.4 kernel
just want to ask a question ... to any of you who had tried it

1) what's the alternate modules in 2.4 that're 2.2-kernel's ip_masq* modules?



Re: comments on dselect...not unreasonable

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Walter Tautz, 

 I would slightly concur with your assessment of dselect but
 only in the sense that it lists simply too many packages. I 
 am not sure, but perhaps it is possible to present the various
 software types in a less verbose manner. Sort of like the slrn
 news reader where one could collapse dependency trees depending
 on the software. It would be nice to collapse certain dependency
 trees while maintaining others..

Every now and then on the list we have a healthy flamewar about the pros
and cons of dselect. Those who are new to debian argue that dselect is
unintuitive and hard to use. Those who have an emotional investment in
dselect (ie., they wrote it, or experienced the pain of learning how to
use it), argue that online help is available and easy to find.

While online help is certainly available, that doesn't cut it if we want
debian to be a usable distribution. Yes, Unix/Linux is hard to learn, as
it should be, but many people will be put off if they can't make it
through such an essential step in installation. The fact that so many
people complain about dselect is suficient proof that it's too difficult
to use. The fact that so many people accidently delete all the packages
in their system establishes that it's not designed for novice users
(ie., those installing debian for the first time).

Part of the problem is the wonderful number of packages available to be
installed in debian. While 4000+ packages is great for debian users,
going through them all in the one list in dselect is clearly
unreasonable. Maybe collapsing categories or something would be useful,
but it's unworkable as it stands.

There are, of course, other alternatives to dselect, such as aptitute
and capt, but AFAIK neither of these are installed by default. With the
tasks packages it may not be as necessary for those installing to even
see dselect, but if you want to browse the available packages, it's
probably more likely to be used than: 

cat /var/state/apt/lists/* | grep ^Package: |less

or similar.

Unfortunatly dselect is something of a sacred cow in debian. It's like
an ugly and dangerous, but historically significant, building that can't
be renovated or pulled down, but which people try to avoid looking at.
Maybe one day it'll be replaced by something easier to use, but I'm not
holding my breath.

I'm sure people are going to disagree with my assessment, claiming
that dselect is user friendly, it's just that all the users are too
stupid to use it. So maybe we need some good data.

Is there anyone out there in debian-user land who is into computers,
studying psychology[1], and looking for a little project? Set up a
little experiment getting niave (windows?) users to try and install a
number of packages using dselect. To make it interesting, throw in a few
examples with hairy dependencies. Keep track of things like number of
errors, time taken, use of help, and the number who result in a totally
fscked system. There is shite loads of literature out there on HCI and
usability studies, so you should have no trouble setting it all up
properly. Feed back your results to debain-user, and to the maintainers
of dselect, capt, aptitude, etc.

This is something I'd love to do myself, but unfortunately I've now
moved out of psych to criminology (while HCI is interesting, homicide is
much cooler!).

Cheers,

damon (who has his asbestos suit standing by...)

[1] HCI and usability isn't something that should be done by computer
scientists unless they have a particular intrest in the field - they
bring too many prior preconceptions to the studies.

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Re: (1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1

2000-10-06 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,

Interesting. I will try this at home. (Here at work I don't have this problem)

One small question. In which file should I have specified this expert mode?


Greetings,

Stefan.


On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:39:08PM +0200, Daniel Reuter wrote:
 Hello Stefan,
 
 Seems to me more like a xdvi configuration problem. Are you sure, that you
 havn't specified the expert option either in your X-resources or on the
 command line? Because that would make the buttons go away.
 
 Regards,
 Daniel
 
 On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  
  I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is almost 
  impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I installed 
  XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By the way, more 
  info about installing X with ATI card can be found at
  http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
  
  I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing 
  XFS. So far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove S30xfs 
  from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. 
  
  I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. The 
  buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no idea why 
  and what I can do about this.
  
  Anybody any ideas??
  
  
  P.S.: I already posted this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, sorry for 
  cross-posting this message.
  

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Re: Software to record console output (sort of...)

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Ethan Benson, 
  Someone has asked me to do something and record what I do so that he can
  see how it works, but I can't for the life of me remember what this
  program was called. I've tried searching through apt-cache and apropos
  for record, script, pager, etc., but no joy.
 
 script is what your looking for, its in bsdutils.

Thanks, that was what I was after. Seconds after I posted this I read
another posting that mentioned it too... weird!

(Obviously I didn't look closely enough when I did `apropos script', as
I see now it's in there 3 times!)

cheers,

damon

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Re: OT: mailing list, bounce-debian-user ?

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Karsten,

Quoth kmself@ix.netcom.com, 
 I'm getting a number of messages apparently sent or resent from
 bounce-debian-user.  I've also had some significant procmail recipie
 problems in recent weeks resulting in inappropriate message rejection,
 particularly from mailing lists.  

I believe that the debian list server sets the envelope sender for email
from the list to bounce-debian-user-email address@list.debian.org (or
something). If a properly configured MTA has to bounce a message, the
list server will know what address is giving it grief, and if it happens
enough times, which to remove. At least, that's my (admittedly limited)
understanding.

I have seen at least one bounce from a badly configured MTA which sent
the mail back to me (the From: address), but did not include it's own
from address. Mutt, for some reason, seemed to put the
bounce-debian-user address in the From: field when it displayed the
mail. Maybe this is what you are seeing.

Just a thought...

damon


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Re: comments on dselect...not unreasonable

2000-10-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 10:39:16PM +1100, Damon Muller wrote:
 
 I'm sure people are going to disagree with my assessment, claiming
 that dselect is user friendly, it's just that all the users are too
 stupid to use it. So maybe we need some good data.

dselect is user friendly, its just picky about who its friends with.

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Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-06 Thread Tony Holroyd
Has anyone successfully installed the Citrix ICA client on a Debian 2.2 box.

I am getting 
can't load library libXaw.so.6.
messages.
LibXaw is on the box,
Any hints?

Tony Holroyd
IT Network Manager
Velmore Ltd



Re: (1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1

2000-10-06 Thread stefan goeman
Hello,

Ignore my previous message. I think I have found it

Greetings,

Stefan


On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:46:05PM +, stefan goeman wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Interesting. I will try this at home. (Here at work I don't have this problem)
 
 One small question. In which file should I have specified this expert mode?
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 Stefan.
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:39:08PM +0200, Daniel Reuter wrote:
  Hello Stefan,
  
  Seems to me more like a xdvi configuration problem. Are you sure, that you
  havn't specified the expert option either in your X-resources or on the
  command line? Because that would make the buttons go away.
  
  Regards,
  Daniel
  
  On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:
  
   Hello,
   
   
   I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is almost 
   impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I installed 
   XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By the way, 
   more info about installing X with ATI card can be found at
   http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
   
   I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing 
   XFS. So far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove 
   S30xfs from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. 
   
   I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. 
   The buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no 
   idea why and what I can do about this.
   
   Anybody any ideas??
   
   
   P.S.: I already posted this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, sorry for 
   cross-posting this message.
   
 
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Re: Can not allocate colormap

2000-10-06 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 03:25:47PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:

 However, I solved gvim's problem by putting 
 
 Vim*scrollBackground: Black
 Vim*scrollForeground: Blue
 
 in ~/.vimrc
 
 The same 
 
 GV*scrollBackground:  Black
 GV*scrollForeground:  Blue
 
 did not work for GV.

You can set resources mentioned in the gv manpage in your $HOME/.Xdefaults
file. 
Remember to merge it into your current session when you modify it. 
ie. xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults

Mike

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Re: Can shell-script be setuid ?

2000-10-06 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:22:49AM -0500, Brad wrote:

  No.  Linux doesn't support this since it is insecure.  It works with perl
  scripts only, because Perl does some extra checks and explicit handling to
  make it work.
 
 Also, doesn't perl use a special suid binary to run these scripts,
 because as far as the kernel is concerned it just hands it to
 /usr/bin/perl non-suid. Perl detects that the script is suid, and does
 the security handling and restarts suid with that binary.

Man, I am a full-time perl coder and I didn't know that. I learn more
about this bloody language every day. ;-)

Mike

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Re: Citrix ICA client on Debian 2.2

2000-10-06 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Tony Holroyd, 
 Has anyone successfully installed the Citrix ICA client on a Debian 2.2 box.

I run it on such a box at work. It needs the libc5 version of libXaw,
which can be found in the xlib6 package (which probably depends on
libc5, but let apt worry about that for you).

If you can live without sound, have the X11 stuff installed on your
terminal server, and are on a LAN (as opposed to a dial-up), Xnest is
considerably faster and works much the same way. If you would like
further details, just let me know.

cheers,

damon

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Newbie Question

2000-10-06 Thread Matt Grant
 I installed 2.1 then used dselect to install
apps from 2.2 Potato disk 1 and 2. I have at least 9 dependency problems
and return status 1 errors after install, configure, and remove.

I suspect it's a kernel thing but I have never recompiled a kernel.

Should I just re-install the system with the 2.2 disks or should I keep 
struggleing with it. 



Re: modem performance w/pon vs. wvdial

2000-10-06 Thread John Hasler
John Kerr Anderson writes:
 Do I need to change the modem initialization string (inside the modem),
 if so, how do I accomplish that?

Run pppconfig, go to 'Advanced', choose 'Modemint', and edit the
initialization string.
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RE: ps2pdf and LaTeX's seminar style

2000-10-06 Thread Thomas Halahan
I tried this recently.

What happened was that ps2pdf gave rubbish looking results.  I don't
know why this happens, but the quality is far worse than for pdflatex.

pdflatex, whilst quality is good, doesn't recofgnise the \specials
from fancybox package of pstricks of some such.  Therefore the
pdflatex semainar presentation comes out without a border and not the
right size.

If you do find a solution tell me.  I saw that one user of seminar
recomended VTEX but i could be bothered to learn that.

check out  http://www.tug.org/applications/Seminar/

AHH.. I have just seen your later post about editing the pd file. 
Question:  Do you find the quality of ps2pdf satisfactory.  Are you
really projecting this?  Perhaps I don't have the right gs fonts or
something cos my fonts come out horrid.  Any tips.

Tom


On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, Stephenson, Paul wrote:
 Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have created a presentation in LaTeX using the seminar style.  I use
  landscape orientation for the slides.  The room where I want to give
  the presentation has a computer running Windows with Acrobat Reader
  available.  I would like to convert the slides to PDF and use the
  full-screen feature of Acrobat to display them.
  
  My difficulty is that ps2pdf does not follow the papersize hints.  The
  resultant PDF file is rotated 90 degrees when I try to view it.
 
 Just a thought: have you tried generating PDF directly from the LaTeX
 source with pdflatex?  I have no idea whether this will solve your
 problem, but it might be worth a try.
 
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ISDN after upgrade to potato

2000-10-06 Thread Veit Waltemath
Hey list,

I'm new to Debian so i fiddle a bit with it. I installed a 2.1,
configurated the ISDN-Devices and upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade to
potato. All went well.
Now my ISDN System not dial automatically, i allways have to use
isdnctrl.
I have a look in the doc and saw that i have to configure the
/etc/network/interfaces.
This file is empty. What i have to do that my box is autodialing.
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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

2000-10-06 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
 
 
 So I had no problems. But if someone never saw his Linux-guru-friend
 writing the line S3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x 3 ttyS3 into
 inittab to get the fax running, how can he ever configure it?
 
The Debian mgetty package does that for you, in the form of a comment,
which you can modify and uncomment.  That's at least a broad hint.

Whereas with the RedHat RPM, I had to figure it out on my own.

I've always found that the extras the Debian maintainers put into the
packages make it easier to get them running.

Granted, to some extent I'm comparing old RedHat and new Debian.  Guess
why.  ;-)



ISDN question

2000-10-06 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
I've noticed quite a few questions about ISDN recently, and I must admit I'm a 
bit
confused.

In my NT4 and OS/2 installations there is no difference between a normal 
modem and
an ISDN one. I just tell the dialler program which serial port the modem is on, 
and
set the port speed to max, and fill in all the AT strings to configure it to 
run as I
want (single channel, dual channel, BOD, etc).

What is the difference in Linux, and specifically, why is there a difference?

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #170

2000-10-06 Thread Dale Amon

 this though, i have wdm running and sometimes do things like:
 
 X -query localhost :1 vt8
 
 to get a second x based login screen, or more interesting:
 
 X -query dogbert :1 vt8
 
 to get a X based login from remote machine dogbert.  (your at the
 mercy of your network security here though, the connection is NOT encrypted)
 

Does anyone know how to set up a Login.app based X system to have a second
console? It uses inittab for starting up rather than xdm.



Re: (1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1

2000-10-06 Thread David A. Rogers
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:

Well, don't be shy.  Share the answer please.

dar

 Hello,
 
 Ignore my previous message. I think I have found it
 
 Greetings,
 
 Stefan
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:46:05PM +, stefan goeman wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Interesting. I will try this at home. (Here at work I don't have this 
  problem)
  
  One small question. In which file should I have specified this expert mode?
  
  
  Greetings,
  
  Stefan.
  
  
  On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 12:39:08PM +0200, Daniel Reuter wrote:
   Hello Stefan,
   
   Seems to me more like a xdvi configuration problem. Are you sure, that you
   havn't specified the expert option either in your X-resources or on the
   command line? Because that would make the buttons go away.
   
   Regards,
   Daniel
   
   On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote:
   
Hello,


I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is 
almost impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I 
installed XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By 
the way, more info about installing X with ATI card can be found at
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html

I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing 
XFS. So far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove 
S30xfs from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. 

I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. 
The buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no 
idea why and what I can do about this.

Anybody any ideas??


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cross-posting this message.

  
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Re: how can I add disk space?

2000-10-06 Thread Markus Stahl
Date sent:  Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:00:38 -0400
From:   Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: how can I add disk space?

Isn't there a way to combine the two HDs' capacity without 
recompiling the kernel (maybe by just loading a module or 
something) or can I perhaps just download such a kernel which 
allows multiple devices driver support? Because compiling a kernel 
is a little bit to hard for me.
And when I do so, do I have to backup the data on both HDs or just 
of the second (new) drive?


 On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 04:45:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello!
  
  I've got a samba-file-server whichs disk resources are getting very 
  low, so I have to add new disk space.
  I've already tried to install a new HD and mounted it into /home 
  (where all my samba datas are being saved). But the problem is 
  now all datas are only written on the new HD instead of useing the 
  disk space of both HDs.
  There must be a way to use both HDs' disk space, isn't there one?
 
 Well, maybe, but not an easy one if you haven't already compiled in
 the option.
 
 You can add a new disk inside the filesystem.  So,
 
 # mount /dev/newdisk /mnt
 # cp -a /home/* /mnt
 # umount /mnt
 # umount /home
 # mount /dev/newdisk /home
 
 Now your new disk on on /home, with all the old data.  That won't get
 you the old disk, though.
 
 To do that, you could mount the old disk as /home2, and symlink some
 directories from inside /home onto /home2.  That would allow you to
 use both disks.  It requires manual work, though, so it's a pain.
 
 You can recompile your kernel to allow multiple devices driver
 support (under block devices), but you'll need to pull all your old
 data off the partition to do it, I think.  This is a way to make a
 software RAID out of the partitions.  The problem is that the
 partition is not RAIDed now, so you'd need to backup, make the raid
 (i.e. make the two drives one device), and then resore all your data. 
 I _might_ be wrong that you have to do it this way (read the docs,
 because I've never done this), but I am pretty sure you do.
 
 A
 
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Re: how can I add disk space?

2000-10-06 Thread Markus Stahl
Yes, I have transfered the old /home tree to the new drive. I just 
didn't write it, because I thought it would be unnecessary. My 
problem is, I want to combine the capacity of both HDs. Because 
when I just mount the new drive to one point (in my case at /home), 
every data written in this directory will just be saved on the new 
drive. But I want to use also the capacity of the other disk (at this 
mountpoint), too. Just how?


From:   kmself@ix.netcom.com
Date sent:  Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:15:23 -0700
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: how can I add disk space?
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  Hello!
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  disk space of both HDs.
  There must be a way to use both HDs' disk space, isn't there one?
 
 Post output from:
 
$ df
$ mount
$ cat /etc/fstab
 
 Unless you've combined multiple hard drives in some fashion (RAID,
 striping, mirroring, LVM), a given file is written to only one location.
 
 Did you transfer your old /home tree to the new drive?
 
 What are you hoping to accomplish?
 
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Re: how can I add disk space?

2000-10-06 Thread Markus Stahl
Can't you perhaps remember the name of the package for the 
multiple-disks-tools? This would be very helpful. Or does anybody 
else know how the package is called?
And what do you mean with LVM is more flexible (and by the way 
what does RAID and LVM mean?)?


Date sent:  Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:03:16 -0400 (EDT)
From:   William T Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copies to:  debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:Re: how can I add disk space?

 On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There must be a way to use both HDs' disk space, isn't there one?
 
 There are a few options.
 
 First, you can mount one disk in the directory tree underneath the other.  
 This will allow you to have the data written into that subdirectory stored
 on one drive, and the data written elsewhere stored on the other.  This is
 probably the easiest all-around option but depending on your data you
 might not be able to arrange it so easily.
 
 You could also export the new drive separately from the old one, so that
 users would be able to select between the old share and the new one.
 
 If you really need to have both drives combined into a single partition
 you will have to use the MD (multiple disks) driver.  To do this you need
 to add MD support to your kernel and read the Multi-Disk HOWTO and maybe
 the Software-RAID HOWTO or the LVM HOWTO (LVM is more flexible, but
 requires you to do patches or use the 2.4 kernel which is a major topic in
 itself).
 
 You should be able to find a package for the MD-tools you'll need to
 combine the volumes; I don't, unfortunately, know what it's called.
 




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