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Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread Christophe BOURGEOIS
2008/9/10 Beaudoin Francoeur [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Bonjour

Salut,

 J'utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLACE DE
 WINDOWS

Je pense que le plus simple,  surtout si c'est ta première expérience linux,
c'est d'installer linux en dual boot (windows + linux sur ton pc) (je n'ai
pas de doc ou de lien sous la main, mais je suis sur que la liste en aura).
Cela te permettra de te mettre à Linux à ton rythme, de t'assurer que tout
ton matériel est bien reconnu. Et plus important, en cas de besoin urgent
d'un logiciel que tu n'as pas (encore) trouvé sur Linux, tu peux toujours
retourner sur windows.

a+


Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread Thierry Leurent
Bonjour,

Si tu n'as aucune expérience avec Linux, je te conseillerait d'utiliser un
LiveCD. Cela te permettre de prendre connaissances des divers interfaces
graphiques existantes ainsi que des applications disponibles.

Après tu pourra passer à une installation sur HD et enfin virer ton
Windows si tu n'en a plus besoin.

Bien à toi
Beaudoin Francoeur a écrit :
 Bonjour

 J’utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLACE DE
 WINDOWS



 Merci de votre réponse

 Beaudoin Francoeur

 Quebec

 Canada




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Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread fabien vincent



Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 10 sept. 08 à 08:25, Christophe BOURGEOIS  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :



2008/9/10 Beaudoin Francoeur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bonjour

Salut,

J'utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLAC 
E DE WINDOWS


Je pense que le plus simple,  surtout si c'est ta première expérienc 
e linux, c'est d'installer linux en dual boot (windows + linux sur t 
on pc) (je n'ai pas de doc ou de lien sous la main, mais je suis sur 
 que la liste en aura). Cela te permettra de te mettre à Linux à ton 
 rythme, de t'assurer que tout ton matériel est bien reconnu. Et plu 
s important, en cas de besoin urgent d'un logiciel que tu n'as pas ( 
encore) trouvé sur Linux, tu peux toujours retourner sur windows.


a+



Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread fabien vincent

Un site pour débutant : http://www.siteduzero.com.
Suis son conseil fait un dual boot.

Bon courage

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 10 sept. 08 à 08:25, Christophe BOURGEOIS  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :



2008/9/10 Beaudoin Francoeur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bonjour

Salut,

J'utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLAC 
E DE WINDOWS


Je pense que le plus simple,  surtout si c'est ta première expérienc 
e linux, c'est d'installer linux en dual boot (windows + linux sur t 
on pc) (je n'ai pas de doc ou de lien sous la main, mais je suis sur 
 que la liste en aura). Cela te permettra de te mettre à Linux à ton 
 rythme, de t'assurer que tout ton matériel est bien reconnu. Et plu 
s important, en cas de besoin urgent d'un logiciel que tu n'as pas ( 
encore) trouvé sur Linux, tu peux toujours retourner sur windows.


a+



Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mardi 09 septembre 08 à 18:44, jipe a écrit :

[...]

| je suis novice sous deb (et sous linux),
| questions : c'est grave docteur ? faut-il tout réinstaller ou attendre 
| que lenny soit stable pour que tout re-fonctionne normalement.

Il en faut bien plus à une Debian pour être obligé de réinstaller !!!
La qualité et la robustesse du système de paquets de Debian permet de
réparer des situations presque désespérées sans avoir besoin de
réinstaller. En revanche, la manipulation est plus simple quand on a un
peu d'expérience.

Si tu n'as pas un besoin vital et urgent de la machine, je pense que tu
trouveras sur la liste l'aide qui te permettra de réparer ton système
sans le réinstaller. Sinon, une réinstallation (depuis un NetInstall de
Lenny, par exemple) sera plus simple et plus rapide, mais beaucoup moins
profitable en terme d'expérience acquise.

Si tu choisis de réparer, commence par rechercher sur Google (en ayant
positionné la variable LANG=C, comme on te l'a si bien suggéré), si tu
ne trouves rien, alors poste les dernières lignes de l'exécution
d'aptitude sur la liste.

| jipe

Seb

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Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread jipe

Beaudoin Francoeur a écrit :


Bonjour

J’utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLACE 
DE WINDOWS


Merci de votre réponse

Beaudoin Francoeur

Quebec

Canada


bonjour,
il y a aussi des parrains Linux :
http://parrains.linux.free.fr/index.php?choix1=7choix2=0#rencontrez
pour le canada
cordialement

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non persistance des droits fichiers avec un partage SMB

2008-09-10 Thread mais quenedoux

bonjour,

je n'arrive pas à avoir des droits persistants sur des fichiers distant
via un accès SMB.

Si je crée un fichier normal (read/write mais pas exec) sur mon
partage SMB, lorsque j'y accède ultérieurement, les droits sont
systématiquement en read/write/exec. Il semblerait que SMB ajoute
toujours tous les droits sur les fichiers = rwxrwxrwx.

un exemple concret :
ma station est une debian et j'accède à un disque distant NTFS s'un
serveur windows via smb avec le montage basique suivant :

smbmount //IPDuServer/partageSMB /home/moi/montageSMB/ -o username=login

pas de pb, j'accède au disque //IPDuServer/partageSMB via mon répertoire
 /home/moi/montageSMB/

je crée un fichier basique

$ touch smbtest
$ ll
-rw-r--r-- 1 moi moi 0 sep  4 17:13 smbtest

jusque là, pas de souci, les droits attendus sont présents

maintenant je démonte le partage et je le remonte

et cette fois, le fichier a tous les droits

$ll
-rwxrwSrwx 1 moi moi 0 sep  4 17:13 smbtest

il me semble donc que le client smb conserve les droits linux en mémoire
(tant que je ne démonte pas le volume les droits sont ceux attendus)
par contre lorsque le volume est démonté/remonté , on récupère des
droits par défaut rwxrwSrwx

si je regarde les droits du fichier sur la stations windows, il n'y a
rien de particulier, donc le client smb ne demande pas au serveur
NTFS/Windows de conserver les droits.

En utilisant cygwin sur le disque NTFS/windows, on constate que cygwin
émule les droits unix en utilisant les ACL de windows.

y a t il une option dans smb permettant 'de graver dans le marbre' les
droits des fichiers (un peu à la mode cygwin en utilisant les ACL) ?
ou est ce le fonctionnement (et limitation) standard de smb

merci


(j'ai déjà envoyé ce mail à la liste mais ne l'ai jamais reçu aussi je 
me permet de le renvoyer. désolé pour le bruit)


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Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread jipe

Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :

Le mardi 09 septembre 08 à 18:44, jipe a écrit :

[...]

| je suis novice sous deb (et sous linux),
| questions : c'est grave docteur ? faut-il tout réinstaller ou attendre 
| que lenny soit stable pour que tout re-fonctionne normalement.


Il en faut bien plus à une Debian pour être obligé de réinstaller !!!
La qualité et la robustesse du système de paquets de Debian permet de
réparer des situations presque désespérées sans avoir besoin de
réinstaller. En revanche, la manipulation est plus simple quand on a un
peu d'expérience.

  

complètement d'accord malgré mon peu d'expérience

Si tu n'as pas un besoin vital et urgent de la machine, je pense que tu
trouveras sur la liste l'aide qui te permettra de réparer ton système
sans le réinstaller. Sinon, une réinstallation (depuis un NetInstall de
Lenny, par exemple) sera plus simple et plus rapide, mais beaucoup moins
profitable en terme d'expérience acquise.

  

ok

Si tu choisis de réparer, commence par rechercher sur Google (en ayant
positionné la variable LANG=C, comme on te l'a si bien suggéré), si tu
ne trouves rien, alors poste les dernières lignes de l'exécution
d'aptitude sur la liste.

| jipe

Seb

  
j'ai déja essayé un #aptitude install aptitude, mais je ne peux rien 
installer

NunuxDeb:/home/jipe# aptitude install aptitude
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
.
Les paquets suivants sont CASSÉS : suit une liste impressionnante
Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS :.
Les paquets partiellement installés suivants seront configurés :..

0 paquets mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 5 à enlever et 564 non 
mis à jour.
Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 
14,6Mo seront libérés.

Les paquets suivants ont des dépendances non satisfaites :
 kdelibs4c2a: Dépend: kdelibs-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1) mais 
4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1 est installé et a été conservé

  Dépend: x11-xserver-utils mais il n'est pas installable
et une suite de n'est pas installable

Laisser les dépendances suivantes non satisfaites :
ksmserver recommande kpersonalizer (= 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2)
Le score est de 1049

Accepter cette solution ? [Y/n/q/?]
yes

tout a l'air de se passer normalement jusqu'à:
Traitement des « déclenchements (triggers) » pour « man-db »...
(Lecture de la base de données... 151385 fichiers et répertoires déjà 
installés.)

Suppression de gs-common ...
Can't locate File/Copy.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl 
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/defoma-app line 7.

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/defoma-app line 7.
dpkg : erreur de traitement de gs-common (--remove) :
le sous-processus pre-removal script a retourné une erreur de sortie 
d'état 2

Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
gs-common
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Échec de l'installation d'un paquet. Tentative de réparation :
avec une suite de lignes qui disent :
dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de 
kdelibs4c2a :

kdelibs4c2a dépend de kdelibs-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1) ; cependant :
 La version de kdelibs-data sur le système est 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1.
dpkg : trop d'erreurs, arrêt
dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:265: process_queue:  l'assertion « 
!queue.length » a échoué.
E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to 
correct the problem.
E: Impossible de récupérer le verrou système ! (il est possible qu'un 
autre processus apt ou dpkg soit en cours)
E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to 
correct the problem.

Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Lecture de l'information d'état étendu
Initialisation de l'état des paquets... Fait
Lecture des descriptions de tâches... Fait


et ça se termine par :

État actuel : 24 paquets cassés [-37], 560 mises à jour restantes [-5].
W: Impossible de verrouiller le fichier cache : cela est en général dû à 
une installation simultanée de paquets avec dpkg ou un autre outil comme 
APT. Ouverture en mode lecture seule : AUCUNE des modifications de 
l'état des paquets que vous pourrez faire ne sera conservée.

NunuxDeb:/home/jipe#

voila où j'en suis.
quand à la variable LANG=C ça se met où ?
désolé pour la longueur.
et merci de votre aide
cordialement

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Re: Vidéo

2008-09-10 Thread Xavier
Grégory Bulot wrote:

 Bonjour,
 
 Je prends te temps en temps des vidéos avec mon appareil photo.
 J'en tire des fichiers .mov assez lourds en rapport à la durée.
 J'ai bien tenté une conversion en mpg pour alléger le poids des
 fichiers, mais les mouvements deviennent saccadés.
 Pourriez-vous me recommandez un site pour la transformation des
 vidéos ?
 
 ffmpeg -sameq -i TonFichierMov TonFichier.avi génére aussi les
 saccades ?
 
 Sinon l'excellent avidemux, qui est un peu trop délaissé à mon goût.
 
 concernant les sites  je sèche

Moi j'utilise :

mencoder video.mov -mc 0 -o video.avi -oac mp3lame -ovc x264 -x264encopts
crf=25

L'option crf permet de régler la qualité.

Après, la vidéo est lue correctement avec mplayer.
Mais avec xine j'ai un léger décalage son/vidéo.
Vlc n'arrive pas à la lire (peut-être à cause du codec h264)





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Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread Thierry Leurent
Je te dirais d'installer manuellement (dpkg) la version Lenny d'aptitude,
tu trouvera les packets sur le net où dans ton cache (/var/cache/apt/)
et de faire un aptitude update et un aptitude install -f

jipe a écrit :
 Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :
 Le mardi 09 septembre 08 à 18:44, jipe a écrit :

 [...]

 | je suis novice sous deb (et sous linux),
 | questions : c'est grave docteur ? faut-il tout réinstaller ou attendre
 | que lenny soit stable pour que tout re-fonctionne normalement.

 Il en faut bien plus à une Debian pour être obligé de réinstaller !!!
 La qualité et la robustesse du système de paquets de Debian permet de
 réparer des situations presque désespérées sans avoir besoin de
 réinstaller. En revanche, la manipulation est plus simple quand on a un
 peu d'expérience.


 complètement d'accord malgré mon peu d'expérience
 Si tu n'as pas un besoin vital et urgent de la machine, je pense que tu
 trouveras sur la liste l'aide qui te permettra de réparer ton système
 sans le réinstaller. Sinon, une réinstallation (depuis un NetInstall de
 Lenny, par exemple) sera plus simple et plus rapide, mais beaucoup moins
 profitable en terme d'expérience acquise.


 ok
 Si tu choisis de réparer, commence par rechercher sur Google (en ayant
 positionné la variable LANG=C, comme on te l'a si bien suggéré), si tu
 ne trouves rien, alors poste les dernières lignes de l'exécution
 d'aptitude sur la liste.

 | jipe

 Seb


 j'ai déja essayé un #aptitude install aptitude, mais je ne peux rien
 installer
 NunuxDeb:/home/jipe# aptitude install aptitude
 Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
 .
 Les paquets suivants sont CASSÉS : suit une liste impressionnante
 Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS :.
 Les paquets partiellement installés suivants seront configurés :..

 0 paquets mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 5 à enlever et 564 non
 mis à jour.
 Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage,
 14,6Mo seront libérés.
 Les paquets suivants ont des dépendances non satisfaites :
   kdelibs4c2a: Dépend: kdelibs-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1) mais
 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1 est installé et a été conservé
Dépend: x11-xserver-utils mais il n'est pas installable
 et une suite de n'est pas installable

 Laisser les dépendances suivantes non satisfaites :
 ksmserver recommande kpersonalizer (= 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2)
 Le score est de 1049

 Accepter cette solution ? [Y/n/q/?]
 yes

 tout a l'air de se passer normalement jusqu'à:
 Traitement des « déclenchements (triggers) » pour « man-db »...
 (Lecture de la base de données... 151385 fichiers et répertoires déjà
 installés.)
 Suppression de gs-common ...
 Can't locate File/Copy.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
 /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5
 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8
 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/bin/defoma-app line 7.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/defoma-app line 7.
 dpkg : erreur de traitement de gs-common (--remove) :
  le sous-processus pre-removal script a retourné une erreur de sortie
 d'état 2
 Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
  gs-common
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 Échec de l'installation d'un paquet. Tentative de réparation :
 avec une suite de lignes qui disent :
 dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empêchent la configuration de
 kdelibs4c2a :
  kdelibs4c2a dépend de kdelibs-data ( 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1) ; cependant :
   La version de kdelibs-data sur le système est 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1.
 dpkg : trop d'erreurs, arrêt
 dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:265: process_queue:  l'assertion «
 !queue.length » a échoué.
 E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to
 correct the problem.
 E: Impossible de récupérer le verrou système ! (il est possible qu'un
 autre processus apt ou dpkg soit en cours)
 E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to
 correct the problem.
 Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
 Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
 Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
 Lecture de l'information d'état étendu
 Initialisation de l'état des paquets... Fait
 Lecture des descriptions de tâches... Fait


 et ça se termine par :

 État actuel : 24 paquets cassés [-37], 560 mises à jour restantes [-5].
 W: Impossible de verrouiller le fichier cache : cela est en général dû à
 une installation simultanée de paquets avec dpkg ou un autre outil comme
 APT. Ouverture en mode lecture seule : AUCUNE des modifications de
 l'état des paquets que vous pourrez faire ne sera conservée.
 NunuxDeb:/home/jipe#

 voila où j'en suis.
 quand à la variable LANG=C ça se met où ?
 désolé pour la longueur.
 et merci de votre aide
 cordialement

 --
 jipe

 L'émerveillement est... une vertu qui ouvre tout sur son passage, qui
 transfigure les choses, les lieux et les visages.
 Jacqueline Kelen







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 Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une 

Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread jipe

Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :

Le mardi 09 septembre 08 à 18:44, jipe a écrit :

[...]

| je suis novice sous deb (et sous linux),
| questions : c'est grave docteur ? faut-il tout réinstaller ou attendre 
| que lenny soit stable pour que tout re-fonctionne normalement.


Il en faut bien plus à une Debian pour être obligé de réinstaller !!!
La qualité et la robustesse du système de paquets de Debian permet de
réparer des situations presque désespérées sans avoir besoin de
réinstaller. En revanche, la manipulation est plus simple quand on a un
peu d'expérience.

Si tu n'as pas un besoin vital et urgent de la machine, je pense que tu
trouveras sur la liste l'aide qui te permettra de réparer ton système
sans le réinstaller. Sinon, une réinstallation (depuis un NetInstall de
Lenny, par exemple) sera plus simple et plus rapide, mais beaucoup moins
profitable en terme d'expérience acquise.

Si tu choisis de réparer, commence par rechercher sur Google (en ayant
positionné la variable LANG=C, comme on te l'a si bien suggéré), si tu
ne trouves rien, alors poste les dernières lignes de l'exécution
d'aptitude sur la liste.

| jipe

Seb

  

bonjour
suite du précédent message.
j'ai trouvé ça
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495359
et ça :
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=482140

mais ça m'avance pas beaucoup, l'anglais et moi ça fait deux :-[  dans 
le peu que je comprends je retrouve dans le bug 495359 à peu près les 
mêmes lignes que chez moi.

est-ce que c'est la solution de mon problème ?
cordialement.

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Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread kaliderus

Beaudoin Francoeur a écrit :


Bonjour

J’utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLACE 
DE WINDOWS


Merci de votre réponse

Beaudoin Francoeur

Quebec

Canada


Bonjour,
Je ne sais pas si la Debian est la distribution la plus simple pour 
débuter sous Linux, mais à long terme le choix est bon.
Si tu as peur de planter ton système propriétaire ou que tu veux le 
conserver, tu peux peut être investir dans un disque dur supplémentaire, 
les coût on bien baissé ces dernières années. Les plus petits sur le 
marché (80Go) me semblent suffisants.
Il y a aussi la solution d'un système virtualisé (VirtualBox par 
exemple, ou qemu) pour tester, si ta machine peut t'assurer un certain 
confort d'utilisation.

Et évidemment le dual boot, beaucoup de doc existe à ce sujet...
Bon courage.

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Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 06:44:35PM +0200,
  jipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
  a message of 42 lines which said:
 
  dpkg : trop d'erreurs, arrêt
  dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:265: process_queue:  l'assertion «  
  !queue.length » a échoué.
 
 Aïe.
 
  questions : c'est grave docteur ? 
 
 Oui, c'est tout à fait anormal.
 
 Suggestions : 
 
 1) Essayer de mettre à jour aptitude d'abord (aptitude install
 aptitude)

Dans ce cas, c'est dpkg qu'il faut mettre à jour. Prendre la version
1.14.22 de sid qui doit migrer dans lenny sous peu.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dpkg.html
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.14.22_i386.deb

Elle corrige cela et bien plus.

a+
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Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, jipe wrote:
 mais ça m'avance pas beaucoup, l'anglais et moi ça fait deux :-[  dans  
 le peu que je comprends je retrouve dans le bug 495359 à peu près les  
 mêmes lignes que chez moi.
 est-ce que c'est la solution de mon problème ?

La solution c'est de refaire marcher perl en installant les paquets perl,
perl-base et perl-modules à coup de dpkg -i si apt-get n'en est pas
capable.

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routage

2008-09-10 Thread Patrice OLIVER

Bonjour,

Dans ma boîte, j'administre 2 pare-feu.
1 pour l'entreprise (ip_pf1)
1 pour mon service (ip_pf2)

Sur le pare-feu de l'entreprise, j'ai une DMZ (192.168.0.0/24) dans 
laquelle un squid fonctionne.

Je souhaite accéder à ce proxy pour diverses raisons.

Dans ma config ip, j'ai ma default gw qui pointe sur ip_pf2
Je souhaite donc ajouter sur mon laptop une route pour accéder à la DMZ 
qui se situe derrière ip_pf1

J'ai essayé :
route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw ip_pf1
masi cela ne fonctionne pas. Pourtant, l'aide de la commande semble 
indiquer cette syntaxe. Avez-vous d'autres infos ?


Merci.
Patrice.

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Re: d'autres question avant migration

2008-09-10 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le mercredi 10 septembre 08 à 10:35, jipe a écrit :

[...]

| voila où j'en suis.
| quand à la variable LANG=C ça se met où ?

La variable LANG permet de définir la langue utilisée par les
commandes pour « dialoguer » avec l'utilisateur.
Par exemple, sur un système en Français (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8) :
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sni$ rm
   rm: opérande manquante
   Pour en savoir davantage, faites: « rm --help ».

Il y a deux moyens de la redéfinir :
- uniquement pour la commande courante, dans ce cas on la définit en
  tête de commande comme ça :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sni$ LANG=C rm
rm: missing operand
Try `rm --help' for more information.
- pour toutes les commandes à venir dans le shell, dans ce cas on
  l'exporte :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sni$ export LANG=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sni$ rm
rm: missing operand
Try `rm --help' for more information.

| jipe

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Re: routage

2008-09-10 Thread Thierry Leurent
Bonjour,

Quand j'ai utilisé route, j'ai tjs utilisé le paramêtre netmask et pas
/quelquechose.

Bien à toi.

Patrice OLIVER a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 Dans ma boîte, j'administre 2 pare-feu.
 1 pour l'entreprise (ip_pf1)
 1 pour mon service (ip_pf2)

 Sur le pare-feu de l'entreprise, j'ai une DMZ (192.168.0.0/24) dans
 laquelle un squid fonctionne.
 Je souhaite accéder à ce proxy pour diverses raisons.

 Dans ma config ip, j'ai ma default gw qui pointe sur ip_pf2
 Je souhaite donc ajouter sur mon laptop une route pour accéder à la DMZ
 qui se situe derrière ip_pf1
 J'ai essayé :
 route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw ip_pf1
 masi cela ne fonctionne pas. Pourtant, l'aide de la commande semble
 indiquer cette syntaxe. Avez-vous d'autres infos ?

 Merci.
 Patrice.

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Re: routage

2008-09-10 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:19:24PM +0200, Patrice OLIVER wrote:
 Sur le pare-feu de l'entreprise, j'ai une DMZ (192.168.0.0/24) dans 
 laquelle un squid fonctionne.
 Je souhaite accéder à ce proxy pour diverses raisons.
 
 Dans ma config ip, j'ai ma default gw qui pointe sur ip_pf2
 Je souhaite donc ajouter sur mon laptop une route pour accéder à la DMZ 
 qui se situe derrière ip_pf1
 J'ai essayé :
 route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw ip_pf1

Quelle est l'adresse de ton portable?

Il ne me semble pas correct d'avoir à rajouter une route sur
un portable qui n'a qu'une adresse et qu'une interface.
C'est à ip_pf2 de faire le routage vers ip_pf1.

Y.

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Re: routage

2008-09-10 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
’jour,

Yves Rutschle, mercredi 10 septembre 2008, 13:06:31 CEST
 
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:19:24PM +0200, Patrice OLIVER wrote:
  Sur le pare-feu de l'entreprise, j'ai une DMZ
  (192.168.0.0/24) dans laquelle un squid fonctionne.
  Je souhaite accéder à ce proxy pour diverses raisons.
  
  Dans ma config ip, j'ai ma default gw qui pointe sur ip_pf2
  Je souhaite donc ajouter sur mon laptop une route pour
  accéder à la DMZ qui se situe derrière ip_pf1
  J'ai essayé :
  route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw ip_pf1
 
 Quelle est l'adresse de ton portable?
 
 Il ne me semble pas correct d'avoir à rajouter une route sur
 un portable qui n'a qu'une adresse et qu'une interface.
 C'est à ip_pf2 de faire le routage vers ip_pf1.

  Surtout, vu que ce sont des pare-feu, il me semble qu’il y a
de grandes chances qu’il y ait des règles de filtrage empêchant
toute communication entre les réseaux locaux et la DMZ.
  C’est plutôt de ce côté-là qu’il faudrait creuser. Pour les
contourner, il faudrait déjà les connaître…

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Re: routage

2008-09-10 Thread DUFRESNE, Mathias (STERIA)
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 13:06 +0200, Yves Rutschle a écrit :
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:19:24PM +0200, Patrice OLIVER wrote:
  Sur le pare-feu de l'entreprise, j'ai une DMZ (192.168.0.0/24) dans 
  laquelle un squid fonctionne.
  Je souhaite accéder à ce proxy pour diverses raisons.
  
  Dans ma config ip, j'ai ma default gw qui pointe sur ip_pf2
  Je souhaite donc ajouter sur mon laptop une route pour accéder à la DMZ 
  qui se situe derrière ip_pf1
  J'ai essayé :
  route add -net 192.168.0.0/24 gw ip_pf1
 
 Quelle est l'adresse de ton portable?
 
 Il ne me semble pas correct d'avoir à rajouter une route sur
 un portable qui n'a qu'une adresse et qu'une interface.
 C'est à ip_pf2 de faire le routage vers ip_pf1.
 
 Y.
 
salut à tous,

Si la config de ton LAN ressemble à ça :

 service
   |
ip_pf1
   |
- le reste de l'entreprise
   |
ip_pf2
   |
 internet


C'est effectivement à ta passerelle de faire suivre tes paquets vers la
DMZ, où qu'elle soit.

De toute façon les différentes passerelles que tu peux configurer pour
accéder à différents réseaux doivent impérativement être directement
joignable, donc être sur le même réseau que toi.


Pour être plus clair :

internet
   |
  fwext
   |  |
   | -- LAN3
--- LAN1 |
   |   fwint2
 fwint1  |
   | |
---LAN2


fw* = des passerelles
fwext n'autorise pas le passage de paquets entre LAN1 et LAN3

si tu es sur LAN1, tu auras comme passerelle par défaut fwext et pour
accéder à LAN2 ET LAN3 tu configureras deux routes avec comme passerelle
fwint1

Ceci en espérant que le schéma passe convenablement : )

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CUPS et imprimante réseau

2008-09-10 Thread Michel Grentzinger
Bonjour,

J'ai un serveur CUPS sur lequel est enregistré une imprimante réseau (HP 
Color Laserjet 2605dn) et une imprimante parallèle (HP 1100).

Depuis mon poste de travail (différent du serveur donc), je n'arrive pas à 
obtenir tous les paramètres de mon imprimante réseau... Et encore, ça dépend 
du contexte : avec l'impression des applications KDE, aucun soucis, le 
recto-verso est dispo, l'impression de 4 pages sur 1 seule, etc.

Avec OpenOffice.org, j'ai juste le recto-verso et avec Acrobat Reader, je n'ai 
rien d'autre que le standard (nombre de pages)...

Est-ce du au mode de branchement , à l'ordre d'allumage des appareils ?

Une idée ? Une piste ?
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aptitude et information d' état étendue

2008-09-10 Thread Franck Delage
Salut à tous,

J'ai un léger souci avec aptitude.

Lors d'un install ou d'un upgrade, l'écriture de l'information d'état
étendue dure de plus en plus longtemps. Et comme aptitude le fait au
début et pendant un upgrade...

Pour commencer, je ne sais pas ce que ça veut dire...

Je peux bien sûr utiliser apt-get et apt-cache, mais les infos
d'aptitude sont bien complètes.


Merci de vos infos.

Amicalement,

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Re: remplacer microsoft par LINUX

2008-09-10 Thread Edi Stojicevic
* kaliderus [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-09-10 13:41:43 +0200] wrote :

 Beaudoin Francoeur a écrit :

 Bonjour

 J’utilise Windows XP Pro;Comment faire pour UTILISER LINUX À LA PLACE  
 DE WINDOWS

 Merci de votre réponse

 Beaudoin Francoeur

 Quebec

 Canada

 Bonjour,
 Je ne sais pas si la Debian est la distribution la plus simple pour  
 débuter sous Linux, mais à long terme le choix est bon.

J'ai installé Debian à différentes personnes ne connaissant pas grand
chose à Linux et à l'informatique en général et toutes en sont très
contentes.
Le seul problème que j'ai rencontré est plus la migration de personnes
venant du côté obscur et qui n'arrêtent pas de me poser des questions
sur comment fait-on ceci ou cela car sous Windows je le faisais ainsi ?

 Si tu as peur de planter ton système propriétaire ou que tu veux le  
 conserver, tu peux peut être investir dans un disque dur supplémentaire,  
 les coût on bien baissé ces dernières années. Les plus petits sur le  
 marché (80Go) me semblent suffisants.
 Il y a aussi la solution d'un système virtualisé (VirtualBox par  
 exemple, ou qemu) pour tester, si ta machine peut t'assurer un certain  
 confort d'utilisation.

Ou encore vmware ...

Les Lives Cd peuvent être aussi un bon moyen de découvrir le système sans
toucher à ton disque dur. Tout est chargé en mémoire et il te suffit de
booter sur le cédérom.

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[lenny]Xfce4 - keytouch : soucis de fermeture de session

2008-09-10 Thread Grégory Bulot
Bonjour, 


depuis que j'ai installé keytouch (gestion des touches 'exotique de mon
clavier'), la fermeure de session se termine mal.

les panels, icones de bureaux : se ferment
le fond d'écran reste, ... et pas de retour à gdm (j'ai laissé tourner
une nuit sans retour à gdm)

j'ai essayé de comprendre le 'bazard'

il semblerai que /usr/bin/keytouchd-launch soit lancé par 'gdm' a la
place du gestionnaire de fenetre (xfce ici) :

extrait d'un ps :
root  1648  3009  0 Sep08 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
gbulot   20144  1648  0 15:53 ?
00:00:00 /bin/bash /usr/bin/keytouchd-launch startxfce4

le keytouchd-launch :

cat /usr/bin/keytouchd-launch
#!/bin/bash
# This script was written by Daniele Favara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Stripped for keytouch by Rodrigo Gallardo [EMAIL PROTECTED]

set -e

while [ ! -z $1 ];do
case $1 in
  --help|-h)
echo Usage: keytouchd-launch [command]
echo Launch the keytouch daemons in background, before
running COMMAND. echo Please see 'man keytouchd-launch' for details.
exit 
;;
  *)
SESSION=$@ ; shift $#
;;
esac
done


if [ x$SESSION = x ]; then
# No session? We die
echo You must provide a command to run.
exit 1
else
keytouchd  keytouchdpid=$!

# Run the session, kill the daemons afterwards
$SESSION 

while ps $keytouchdpid 
  do
  kill $keytouchdpid || sleep 5
done

exit $?
fi



il semblerait que le but de ce programme soit de tuer keytouch à la
fermeture de session, mais y'a un loup quelquepart, et j'arrive pas à
voir ou !

quelqu'un a-t-il une idée


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etch-lenny et sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

2008-09-10 Thread Olivier K
Bonjour,

Quand je lance

   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

même après avoir réglé à basse la priorité des questions avec 

   sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf

sur lenny, dpkg ne me pose pas du tout autant de questions que selon
mon souvenir sur etch.

Rien sur la profondeur des couleurs (si c'est bien le terme), rien sur
la résolution, ni même le choix du pilote (nv sous lenny gère ma carte
graphique, plus besoin du module propriétaire nvidia).

Par ailleurs, un cat -n /etc/X11/xorg.conf me montre un fichier
comportant bien peu de lignes. Aucune ligne de résolution, ni de ligne
faisant référence au driver nv.

Un collègue lance à ma demande la même commande sur sa machine, sous
lenny aussi. Son fichier xorg.conf, «complet» (datant de 2006) est
remplacé par un fichier minimal du genre du mien.

Cela me donne l'impression que le fonctionnement a changé entre etch
et lenny, mais je ne trouve pas...

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Re: d'autres question avant migration [resolu]

2008-09-10 Thread jipe

Raphael Hertzog a écrit :

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
  

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 06:44:35PM +0200,
 jipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 a message of 42 lines which said:




dpkg : trop d'erreurs, arrêt
dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:265: process_queue:  l'assertion «  
!queue.length » a échoué.
  

Aïe.


questions : c'est grave docteur ? 
  

Oui, c'est tout à fait anormal.

Suggestions : 


1) Essayer de mettre à jour aptitude d'abord (aptitude install
aptitude)



Dans ce cas, c'est dpkg qu'il faut mettre à jour. Prendre la version
1.14.22 de sid qui doit migrer dans lenny sous peu.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dpkg.html
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.14.22_i386.deb

Elle corrige cela et bien plus.

a+
  

merci pour tout et à tous c'est reparti, ça marche :-)
donc en suivant :
aptitude install aptitude n'a rien donné
j'ai téléchargé et installé  dpkg_1.14.22_i386.deb, comme tu me le dit, 
sans problème

un aptitude upgrade suivi d'aptitude update ne donne rien.
ensuite je défini lang=C comme me le dit sebastien
puis un aptitude dist-upgrade et tout est rentré dans l'ordre. ça à duré 
environ 20 minutes.
mes applications remarchent normalement, le passage de Etch à Lenny est 
fait.

c'est le rêve.
merci Linux et merci la liste.
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Toilet, libcaca, figlet.

2008-09-10 Thread Gaël STEPHAN

Bonsoir la liste.

Je cherche à intégrer à un script une fonction me permettant de générer une 
bannière en 'Ascii Art'.
J'ai pour cela trouvé le paquet 'toilet', qui semble me convenir on ne peut 
mieux, au vu des résultats obtenus jusqu'ici.
Pourtant, les très rares screenshots de Toilet que j'ai pu voir font mention de 
polices que je ne trouve pas sur mon système (or, toilet-fonts est également 
installé) (polices en .tlf ou .flf)
Un conseil, une aide ??

( Nota : cette partie n'est qu'une miette du projet global, mais ça serait 
dommage si elle resttait la seule non-automatisée !)

Merci du coup de main.



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ip alias, nat et iptables

2008-09-10 Thread Sébastien Barthélemy
Bonjour,

je manque d'ip publique et voudrais donc faire un réseau IP privé (via
du NAT) en ayant un seul réseau ethernet (pour ne rien avoir à
cabler).

Le serveur qui fera le NAT héberge aussi quelques services, je
voudrais donc qu'il ai 3 ip :
 -  une publique pour les services 193.48.9.75
 - une publique pour son rôle de passerelle/NAT (ce sera dpmc l'ip
publique des pc du réseau privé) 193.48.9.65
 - une privée 192.168.18.250

Voici le contenu de /etc/network/interfaces que j'imagine :

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.18.250
netmask 255.255.255.0

auto eth0:1
iface eth0:1 inet static
address 193.48.9.75
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 193.48.9.0
broadcast 193.48.9.255

auto eth0:2
iface eth0:2 inet static
address 193.48.9.65
# Enable simple IP Forwarding and Network Address Translation
(source NAT)
up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
up /sbin/iptables -t nat -F POSTROUTING
up /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.18.0/24 -o
eth0:2 -j SNAT --to-source 193.48.9.65
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 193.48.9.0
broadcast 193.48.9.255
gateway 193.48.9.254
dns-nameservers 134.157.0.129 134.157.4.24 195.132.0.132
194.2.0.20 217.115.138.24 66.93.87.2
dns-search robot.jussieu.fr vizirnet.local


à votre avis, est-ce que ça va marcher ? J'ai surtout des doutes
concernant les lignes iptables. En particulier, est-ce que pour
iptables je dois/peux utiliser -o eth0:2 ? si non, que faire ?


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Re: etch-lenny et sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

2008-09-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 06:25:08PM +0200, Olivier K a écrit :
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
 
 sur lenny, dpkg ne me pose pas du tout autant de questions que selon
 mon souvenir sur etch.

Bonjour,

Xorg est devenu beaucoup plus intelligent. Si un ficher xorg.conf
presque vide ne suffit pas pour une configuration jugée standard, alors
cela vaut la peine d'ouvrir un rapport de bug.

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awk, sed

2008-09-10 Thread i-pawe...@tlen.pl

Witam wszystkich,
Ma może ktoś przykład, który zamieni w pliku znak  na spacje.
Z góry dziękuje za pomoc.

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Re: awk, sed

2008-09-10 Thread Piotr Grochowski
Dnia środa, 10 września 2008 10:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał:
 Witam wszystkich,
 Ma może ktoś przykład, który zamieni w pliku znak  na spacje.
 Z góry dziękuje za pomoc.

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Może tak:

cat  plik.txt | sed s/\/ /g  plik.kopia.txt

Pozdrawiam


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Re: awk, sed

2008-09-10 Thread Krzysztof Kaczmar
Dnia 2008-09-10, o godz. 12:31:54
Piotr Grochowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a):

 Dnia środa, 10 września 2008 10:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał:
  Ma może ktoś przykład, który zamieni w pliku znak  na spacje.

man tr

 cat  plik.txt | sed s/\/ /g  plik.kopia.txt

Lepiej:

sed '...' plik

niż

cat plik | sed

Szukaj `transliterate' (`tłumacz') w `man sed' (y/abc/xyz/).

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suspender/hibernar

2008-09-10 Thread fraydiógenes
Hola a todos,

Acabo de instalar debian lenny 2.6.26-1 otra vez y tengo un problemilla a la 
hora de suspender/hibernar...

He hecho unos scripts propios para que suspenda e hiberne con s2ram/s2disk 
pero cuando los coloco en /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux para que los ejecute 
gnome-power-manager éste no lo hace. Lo único que pasa es que se bloquea el 
gnome (entra el salvapantallas y pide passwd). De hecho en mis scripts no 
figura que haga eso. Por ello, pienso que gnome-power-manager no invoca los 
scripts de /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux sino que debe hacer otra cosa... Pero 
¿el qué? Porque según su página eso es lo que debería hacer.

Los scripts funcionan perfectos desde la terminal sin problemas de 
autenticación, etc. 

¿Alguien me puede echar un cable?

Gracias por adelantado,

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Re: suspender/hibernar

2008-09-10 Thread JAP

fraydiógenes escribió:

Hola a todos,

Acabo de instalar debian lenny 2.6.26-1 otra vez y tengo un problemilla a la 
hora de suspender/hibernar...


He hecho unos scripts propios para que suspenda e hiberne con s2ram/s2disk 
pero cuando los coloco en /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux para que los ejecute 
gnome-power-manager éste no lo hace. Lo único que pasa es que se bloquea el 
gnome (entra el salvapantallas y pide passwd). De hecho en mis scripts no 
figura que haga eso. Por ello, pienso que gnome-power-manager no invoca los 
scripts de /usr/lib/hal/scripts/linux sino que debe hacer otra cosa... Pero 
¿el qué? Porque según su página eso es lo que debería hacer.


Los scripts funcionan perfectos desde la terminal sin problemas de 
autenticación, etc. 


¿Alguien me puede echar un cable?

Gracias por adelantado,

fraydiógenes


  

Si estás usando gnome, no tengo ni idea.
Si estás usando KDE, prueba con KPowerSave, que anda joya.

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Re: suspender/hibernar

2008-09-10 Thread Odair Augusto Trujillo
Joya de Re-lujo, osea de 10 anda ese kpowersave. :P

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Re: LAN med DHCP

2008-09-10 Thread Pelle Nilsson
tis 2008-09-09 klockan 22:20 +0200 skrev Claes Wallin:
 Vad händer om du gör detta på maskinerna:
 
 # route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0

Japp, detta löste det sista problemet, tack för alla tips!

Jag har förstått att de flesta på listan verkar använda en router eller
linux-server som gateway ut mot linan, men jag ser inte behovet eller
fördelen med detta extra hårdvarusteg, så jag är tacksam över den snygga
lösningen med virtual interfaces.

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Problem med dualboot

2008-09-10 Thread Peter Carlsson

Hej!

Bytte för en tid sedan hårddisk i datorn och från att ha varit en
ren Windows XP burk så installerade jag Debian istället.

Fast samtidigt passade jag på att partitionera och kopiera över
min gamla XP-installation. Tyvärr lyckades jag få till en konstig
partitionering och kan via Grub inte starta XP.

Problemet är NTLDR is missing och med en bootbar CD som jag
laddat ner från http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm så
startar XP upp utan problem.

Att jag inte lyckas få Grub till att starta XP har jag fått för mig
beror på att C-partitionen inte är aktiv.

Nu undrar jag om någon har tips på hur jag ska göra för att få Grub
att boota XP? Räcker det att sätta C-partitionen till aktiv och hur
gör jag det? Eller är det samma sak som att den är satt till bootbar?
I så fall är tre av mina partitioner det, vilket kanske inte heller
är så lyckat. Behöver Debians /boot vara aktiv?

Så här ser min (konstiga) partitionerad hårddisk ut:

tux:/home/peter# sfdisk -nl /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 38913 cylindrar, 255 huvuden, 63 sektorer/spår
Varning: utökad partition börjar inte på jämn cylindergräns.
DOS och Linux kommer att tolka innehållet annorlunda.
Varning: Partitionstabellen ser ut som om den gjordes
  för C/H/S=*/240/63 (istället för 38913/255/63).
I denna visning kommer jag att antaga den geometrin.
Enheter = cylindrar med 7741440 byte, block med 1024 byte, räknat från 0

   Enhet Start Början   Slut Cyl. Block   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *  1   41344   41344  312560640f  W95 Utökad (LBA)
/dev/sda2  0   -   0  00  Tom
/dev/sda3  0   -   0  00  Tom
/dev/sda4  0   -   0  00  Tom
/dev/sda5   *  1+   13861386-  10478128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6   1387+   27731387-  10485688+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda7   2774+   79405167-  39062488+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda8   *   7941+   8198 258-   1950448+  83  Linux
/dev/sda9   8199+   8327 129-975208+  82  Linux växling / 
Solaris

/dev/sda10  8328+  41344   33017- 249608488+  8e  Linux LVM

/Peter


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Re: Problem med dualboot

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Bagge / brother

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Peter Carlsson wrote:


Problemet är NTLDR is missing och med en bootbar CD som jag
laddat ner från http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm så
startar XP upp utan problem.


Njae.
Först ska du ju kolla så att _filen_ NTLDR ligger i rooten på din 
windowsdisk, saknas den eller kan antas vara skadad eller ha fel attribut 
så är det kanske som du tänkt.
Den är rätt bråkig den där så lägg en stund på att googla/försöka 
verifiera tillståndet på den.


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Re: Problem med dualboot

2008-09-10 Thread maillist . peter
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:56:04PM +0200, Martin Bagge / brother wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Peter Carlsson wrote:
 
 Problemet är NTLDR is missing och med en bootbar CD som jag
 laddat ner från http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm så
 startar XP upp utan problem.
 
 Njae.
 Först ska du ju kolla så att _filen_ NTLDR ligger i rooten på din 
 windowsdisk, saknas den eller kan antas vara skadad eller ha fel attribut 
 så är det kanske som du tänkt.
 Den är rätt bråkig den där så lägg en stund på att googla/försöka 
 verifiera tillståndet på den.

Jag har bytt ut den filen plus någon/några till enligt hemsidan ovan
och sett till så de har rätt attribut.

Att det funkar från CD men inte från Grub visar ju att installationen
av Windows XP funkar, men att den säkert använder NTLDR och de andra
filerna från CDn, men att den därefter hittar min XP-installation.

Mvh Peter


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Lenny upgraderings problem

2008-09-10 Thread Mikael Rudberg

Hej

Jag försökte precis uppgradera till Lenny på min Etch server som  är en 
Samba PDC. Men tyvärr fick jag problem efter dist-upgrade så blev 
nätverket skumt jag tappade väldigt massa performance från att kunna 
skriva filer på c.a. 5-6 MB/s så sjönk det till mellan 2MB/s-50KB/s 
efter uppgraderingen. Det verkar inte heller var samba relaterat utan 
även ftp fick samm boost neråt så jag misstänker att det är nått tjall 
med min hårdvara i kombination med Lenny (jag kör på en Zonbu mini  
http://www.zonbu.com/shop/product.php?productid=28cat=2page=1) . Är 
det någon som har liknande erfarenheter och något tips hur man fixar 
problemet ? Skall jag prova installera om från scratch ?


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Arial itálico versus acentuação no openoffice

2008-09-10 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal,

no openoffice quando uso fonte arial em itálico os acentos ficam 
desconfigurados. 

Alguem já viu isto? Como seria possível corrigir o problema?

Valeu
Inte
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Sobre releases semanais do Debian Lenny

2008-09-10 Thread Diego Medeiros
Olá a [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Sou novo aqui na lista, então perdoem qualquer deslize ...

Não sei se já foi relatado aqui na lista, mas gostaria de obter alguma
ajudar referente aos releases semanais do Debian Lenny.

Desde o release da semana passada (01/09), na instalação do sistema, mesmo
colocando como opção Ambiente Desktop, o ambiente Gnome não é instalado.
Após concluida a instalação, o que temos é o sistema básico e só.

Gostaria de saber se isso é algum bug do instalador ou alguma do tipo.

Atenciosamente,
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Samba PDC

2008-09-10 Thread Eduardo Pizorno
Bom tarde ao pessoal da lista,

  Estou com algumas dúvidas na montagem de um servidor Samba como PDC,
  1ª  existe alguma forma de não gravar os perfis dos usuários no server,
para não ficar ocupando espaço desnecessário?
  2ª  alguma chave de registro do Ruindows XP que não deixe criar o usuário
localmente (cada usuário que se loga na máquina é criado um perfil)
  3ª  algum script que funcione para se adicionar as máquinas
automaticamente no domínio já testei alguns sem sucesso.
e 4ª e útlima, é possível através do samba especificar algum comando para
que o usuário através do Ruindows XP possa alterar a senha?

Agradeço a atenção de todos.

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Re: Arial itálico versus acentuação no ope noffice

2008-09-10 Thread correioseguro-debian
Meu caro, isso é um problema que ninguém aborda... Não sei o que é,
por que acontece. Mas irrita profundamente. E não é a Arial. É a fonte
que você USA!!! :-) Qualquer OUTRA, funciona! :-) Eu tinha diversos
arquivos com material de aula em Trebuchet e esse pau começo. Mudei
tudo para Bitstream Vera Sans e o problema continuou com outros 
acentos/símbolos. 
Mas tem uma gambiarra pra evitar o problema, que descobri depois de
muita análise... :-)
Dado que ele já exibiu um dado caractere em uma fonte corretamente, ele
não exibe errado na mesma sessão do OO. 
Eu então criei um arquivo chamado de acentos em todas as fontes que uso,
com todas os caracteres e variações (normal, itálico, negrito, negrito itálico).
Eu então abro esse arquivo _antes_ de qualquer outro e deixo aberto. Sem os
problemas. Se esqueço: toda a bagunça está lá! E o curioso é que é o modo
como ele _exibe_ o caracter. Se você ignorar o problema, você pode continuar
trabalhando normalmente (com o símbolo estranho, que _é_ o caractere 
acentuado)...
O arquivo é mais ou menos assim:

Bitstream Vera Sans áÁàÀãÃâÂéÉèÈêÊ  óÓòÒõÕôÔíÍîÎïÏ  úÚüÜ
çÇ  →↔¬∨∧   ⇔≡∀   ≠   
Trebuchet MSáÁàÀãÃâÂéÉèÈêÊ  óÓòÒõÕôÔíÍîÎïÏ  úÚüÜçÇ  
→↔¬∨∧   ⇔≡∀   ≠ 
Verdana áÁàÀãÃâÂéÉèÈêÊ  óÓòÒõÕôÔíÍîÎïÏ  úÚüÜçÇ  →↔¬∨∧   
⇔≡∀   ≠ 
Times New Roman áÁàÀãÃâÂéÉèÈêÊ  óÓòÒõÕôÔíÍîÎïÏ  úÚüÜçÇ  
→↔¬∨∧   ⇔≡∀   ≠ 
Courier 10 PITCHáÁàÀãÃâÂéÉèÈêÊ  óÓòÒõÕôÔíÍîÎïÏ  úÚüÜ
çÇ  →↔¬∨∧   ⇔≡∀   ≠ 

depois tudo em itálico, depois tudo em negrito e negrito e itálico.
Com esse arquivo aberto, o problema não acontece.
Sei, É UMA P$#A gambiarra, mas não posso ficar sem o OO. E isso acontece no OO3
também. 
Abraço
Cláudio Max


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 Assunto: Arial itálico versus acentuação no openoffice
 Para: Debian User debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Data: Quarta-feira, 10 de Setembro de 2008, 7:36
 Pessoal,
 
 no openoffice quando uso fonte arial em itálico os acentos
 ficam 
 desconfigurados. 
 
 Alguem já viu isto? Como seria possível corrigir o
 problema?
 
 Valeu
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Re: Samba PDC

2008-09-10 Thread hamacker
1 - O padrao do windows é profiles remotas, mas se voce executar o
group policies na estação voce pode determinar que todos que se
logarem naquele computador a profile será local.

2- Todos os usuários que estejam no grupo 'administradores' podem
criar usuários, não tem jeito. Remova-o do grupo administradores e ele
não conseguirá fazer muita coisa, incluindo rodar alguns programas.
Programas da receita federal e caixa economica é um lixo porque acaba
requerendo permissão de administrador para execução, então muitas
vezes colocar o usuário no grupo de administradores locais é
requerido.

3- Adicionar maquinas no dominio ?
groupadd windowsxp
/usr/sbin/useradd -d /dev/null -g windowsxp -s /bin/false ESTACAO-01$

Cadastre-a com o comando acima primeiro e depois vá na propriedades de
sistemas e adicione a estacao no dominio com a conta administrador da
rede.

[]'s

2008/9/10 Eduardo Pizorno [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Bom tarde ao pessoal da lista,

   Estou com algumas dúvidas na montagem de um servidor Samba como PDC,
   1ª  existe alguma forma de não gravar os perfis dos usuários no server,
 para não ficar ocupando espaço desnecessário?
   2ª  alguma chave de registro do Ruindows XP que não deixe criar o usuário
 localmente (cada usuário que se loga na máquina é criado um perfil)
   3ª  algum script que funcione para se adicionar as máquinas
 automaticamente no domínio já testei alguns sem sucesso.
 e 4ª e útlima, é possível através do samba especificar algum comando para
 que o usuário através do Ruindows XP possa alterar a senha?

 Agradeço a atenção de todos.

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Re: Samba PDC

2008-09-10 Thread Rafael
1 - Bom pelo que sei é só não colocar ou comentar as linhas que ativam
o suporte a perfis moveis no samba assim
#logon home =
#logon path =

2 - Não conheço nenhum

3 vai ai um script mas você ainda terra que digitar o nome da maquina
e o grupo blz é o máximo que eu consegui automatizar se você tiver
outra idéia manda ai pra gente segue o script grave ele em um arquivo
e de permissão de execução chmod +x arquivo

#!/bin/bash
echo Digite o nome do Usuario:
read user
echo Digite o nome do Grupo:
read group
useradd -d /dev/null -g $group  -s /bin/false $user$
passwd -l $user$
smbpasswd -a -m $user

4 Não sei

Espero ter ajudado qualquer coisa é so perguntar tem uma opção no
gpedit.msc no windows xp onde vc encontra uma opção de não permitir
logons de usuários com perfis remotos desabilitando ela somente os
usuários cadastrados na maquina poderão se logar evitando que usuarios
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erro no postfix

2008-09-10 Thread Jef Lui
 
eai galera, estou com esse erro no postfix
 
error: incorrect SMTP server privileges: uid=0 euid=0
fatal: the Postfix SMTP server must run with $mail_owner 
warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 2900 exit status 1
warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
 
já define no main.cf, mail_owner = postfix
 
o que pode ser?
 
 
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Re: erro no postfix

2008-09-10 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Jef Lui escribió:
 
eai galera, estou com esse erro no postfix
 
error: incorrect SMTP server privileges: uid=0 euid=0

fatal: the Postfix SMTP server must run with $mail_owner
warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 2900 exit status 1
warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
 
já define no main.cf, mail_owner = postfix
 
o que pode ser?



 
*__* 



Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e 
muitos outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já! 
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1) O Postfix foi reiniciado depois que você fez a mudança?

2) Qual o UID e GID do usuário postfix?

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Re: SAMBA perdendo conexão.

2008-09-10 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Gustavo Goulart escribió:

Olá lista,

   Tenho um servidor no qual compartilho alguns diretórios, ele não esta 
configurado como PDC, estou usando apenas compartilhamentos. Meu problema é que 
o mesmo esta desconectando os usuário de tantos em tantos tempo ...

 O usuário pega um arquivo, começa a trabalhar nele, depois quando tenta voltar 
no servidor ele diz que o servidor esta fora do ar e pede a senha do usuário 
novamente.

 O que pode estar acontecendo, nunca vi isso no samba.

   Versão do samba:3.0.24-6etch10

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O que o log do Samba diz?!

Pode ser também problema físico na rede (mas isso é só um palpite).

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RE: erro no postfix

2008-09-10 Thread Jef Lui
 
1 - Sim
 
2 - uid e gid é cento e poko
 
Essa parte eu conferi, por isso que não entendi, olhei nos processos quem tá 
rodando o postfix é o user postfix mesmo.se alguem tiver mais alguma idéia?


 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:38:14 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: erro no postfix  Jef 
 Lui escribió:eai galera, estou com esse erro no postfixerror: 
 incorrect SMTP server privileges: uid=0 euid=0  fatal: the Postfix SMTP 
 server must run with $mail_owner  warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd 
 pid 2900 exit status 1  warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command 
 startup -- throttlingjá define no main.cf, mail_owner = postfix   
  o que pode ser?*__* 
   
 Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e   
 muitos outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já!   
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 você fez a mudança?  2) Qual o UID e GID do usuário postfix?  Até. --  
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RES: Samba PDC

2008-09-10 Thread Rogério Oliveira Naressi
Eduardo,

Tente essas opções:

1) Adicione no smb.conf:
logon path =

2) Não sei, mas porquê não deixar criar.

3) Adicione no smb.conf:
add machine script = /usr/sbin/smbldap-useradd -w %u

4) Adicione no smb.conf:
passwd program = /usr/sbin/smbldap-passwd %u
passwd chat = *New*password* %n\n *Retype*new*password* %n\n
*all*authentication*tokens*updated*

Utilize no Windows CTRL+ALT+DEL Alterar Senha.


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De: Eduardo Pizorno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 10 de setembro de 2008 11:58
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto: Samba PDC

Bom tarde ao pessoal da lista,

  Estou com algumas dúvidas na montagem de um servidor Samba como PDC, 
  1ª  existe alguma forma de não gravar os perfis dos usuários no server,
para não ficar ocupando espaço desnecessário?
  2ª  alguma chave de registro do Ruindows XP que não deixe criar o usuário
localmente (cada usuário que se loga na máquina é criado um perfil)
  3ª  algum script que funcione para se adicionar as máquinas
automaticamente no domínio já testei alguns sem sucesso.
e 4ª e útlima, é possível através do samba especificar algum comando para
que o usuário através do Ruindows XP possa alterar a senha?

Agradeço a atenção de todos.

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Videos terra no Linux.

2008-09-10 Thread Anacleto Pavão
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 Assista o Terra TV no Linux ou sistemas BSD
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Colaboração: Geison Porfirio
Data de Publicação: 18 de August de 2008
O portal Terra está disponibilizando os vídeos do TerraTV para usuários
de outros sistemas operacionais. Pois até então era autorizados somente MS
Windows e MAC OS.
Consegui assistir sem nenhum problema utilizando o Ubuntu 8.04. Foi necessário
apenas instalar o plugin mplayerplug-in.
Para instalar este plug-in no Ubuntu é bem simples:

 # apt-get install mozilla-mplayer

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RE: OFF blender nao abre

2008-09-10 Thread Jef Lui
 
tenta abrir ele pelo terminal, ai deve vir alguma mensagem para te ajudar a 
encontrar o problema.
 
Jef Lui.


Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:02:59 -0300From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
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apos atualizar os pacotes do debian lenny o blender nao abre mais.. poderiam me 
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pra arrumar..Compiled with Python version 2.5.2.Checking for installed 
Python... got it!ERROR: Unable to open Blender window ja reinstalei o blender e 
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Re: RES: kvm e rede

2008-09-10 Thread Caio Abreu Ferreira
Daniel

Os módulos estão carregados

Module  Size  Used by
kvm_intel  31136  0 
kvm   106428  1 kvm_intel
bridge 40024  0 
tun 8292  0 

Se por acaso eu executo os mesmo comando só que como root, sudo a mensagem
que aparece é outra

can't add br0 to bridge eth0: Operation not supported
/etc/kvm/kvm-ifup: could not launch network script
Could not initialize device 'tap'

O arquivo /etc/network/interfaces esta assim:


# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# Bridge
auto br0
iface br0 inet static
address 192.168.2.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.2.0
broadcast 192.168.2.255
gateway 192.168.2.1
bridge_ports eth0
bridge_stp off
bridge_maxwait 5
dns-nameservers 200.204.0.10
dns-search terra.com.br

Mais alguma idéia do que eu possa estar fazendo de errado?

Obrigado.

On (09/09/08 11:32), Daniel wrote:
 Aparentemente, o modulo tun/tap não está carregado. Experimento executar o 
 comando 
 
 modprobe tun
 
 E tente novamente. Se houver problema, retorne.
 
 []'s
 
 Daniel
 
 -Mensagem original-
 De: Caio Abreu Ferreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Enviada em: domingo, 7 de setembro de 2008 19:24
 Para: Debian User Portuguese
 Assunto: kvm e rede
 
 Lista
 
 Para poder utilizar o kvm estou utilizando os seguintes textos[1][2]. 
 Infelizmente estou tendo problemas com a rede. Quando inicializo a máquina 
 virtual com rede aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro
 
 warning: could not configure /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation Could 
 not initialize device 'tap'
 
 O arquivo /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup esta assim
 
 #!/bin/sh
 switch=$(/sbin/ip route list | awk '/^default / { print $NF }') 
 /sbin/ifconfig $1 0.0.0.0 up /usr/sbin/brctl addif ${switch} $1
 
 Para inicializar a criaćão da máquina virtual estou utilizando o seguinte 
 comando
 
 kvm -hda debian.qcow -cdrom debian-40r4a-i386-netinst.iso -m 256 -boot d -net 
 nic -net tap,script=/etc/kvm/kvm-ifup
 
 Alguém saberia me dizer o que estou fazendo de errado?
 
 Estou utilizando o debian stable.
 
 Obrigado.
 
 1 - http://www.punknix.com/?q=virtualization_kvm
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Re: Sobre releases semanais do Debian Lenny

2008-09-10 Thread Diego Medeiros
Então,

Com os releases do dia 01/09 e 08/09, do endereço
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/, não obtive sucesso. O
jeito foi instalar o sistema básico e depois um fazer apt-get install
gnome-desktop-environment.

Aparentemente, tanto faz colocar Ambiente Desktop ou não que dá na mesma.
Possivelmente deva ser algum problema no instalador.

Vamos esperar ...

2008/9/10 Luciana Sousa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ola Diego,
 eu estou usando o Lenny beta 2 e instalou o Gnome legal.
 tente de novo.

 2008/9/10 Diego Medeiros [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Olá a [EMAIL PROTECTED],

 Sou novo aqui na lista, então perdoem qualquer deslize ...

 Não sei se já foi relatado aqui na lista, mas gostaria de obter alguma
 ajudar referente aos releases semanais do Debian Lenny.

 Desde o release da semana passada (01/09), na instalação do sistema, mesmo
 colocando como opção Ambiente Desktop, o ambiente Gnome não é instalado.
 Após concluida a instalação, o que temos é o sistema básico e só.

 Gostaria de saber se isso é algum bug do instalador ou alguma do tipo.

 Atenciosamente,
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xauthorization hatası

2008-09-10 Thread ozan ay

Sayın Debian Kullanıcıları

Debiandaki kullanıcımla root sifresi kullanarak calıstırmam gereken 
programları kullanamıyorum.


synaptic calıstırmaya calıstıgımda soyle bir hata alıyorum.

Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.

Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.

root terminalini kullanmaya calıstıgımda asagıdaki hatayı alıyorum.

Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator as user root.

Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.

Saygılarımla


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Re: xauthorization hatası

2008-09-10 Thread Osman Aksit
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, ozan ay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sayın Debian Kullanıcıları

 Debiandaki kullanıcımla root sifresi kullanarak calıstırmam gereken
 programları kullanamıyorum.

 synaptic calıstırmaya calıstıgımda soyle bir hata alıyorum.

 Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.

 Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.

 root terminalini kullanmaya calıstıgımda asagıdaki hatayı alıyorum.

 Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator as user root.

 Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.

 Saygılarımla


merhaba, şu komutun çıktısını gönderebilir misin :

ls -l /home/kullanıcı_adın/.Xauthority


Re: xauthorization hatası

2008-09-10 Thread Osman Aksit
2008/9/10 ozan ay [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 debian:/home/ozan# ls -l /home/ozan/.Xauthority
 -rw--- 1 ozan ozan 117 2008-09-10 14:02 /home/ozan/.Xauthority


admin grubunda olup olmadığınızı /etc/group dosyasından bakabilir misiniz?

eğer admin grubunda değilseniz, kendinizi admin grubuna ekleyip synaptic'i
çalıştırmayı deneyin.


Re: xauthorization hatası

2008-09-10 Thread Hilmi
.Xauthority dosyasını silip, oturumu açıp kapatın. Birde visudo ile
kullanıcı adınızın sudoers listesinde olduğundan emin olun.

Ayrıca sudo, su (gui için gksu) gibi komutlarla çalıştırmayı deneyebilirsiniz.

2008/9/10 ozan ay [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  /etc/group dosyasında user  olarak  gerekli yerlerde  mevcut gorunuyorum.
 baska  ne yapabilirim.





debian:/home/ozan# ls -l /home/ozan/.Xauthority
-rw--- 1 ozan ozan 117 2008-09-10 14:02 /home/ozan/.Xauthority


 admin grubunda olup olmadığınızı /etc/group dosyasından bakabilir misiniz?

 eğer admin grubunda değilseniz, kendinizi admin grubuna ekleyip synaptic'i
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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread nate
Dotan Cohen wrote:

 Are there any known problems / gotchas with OpenDNS? I do know that
 they redirect google queries through their own servers and return ads
 in place of unregistered domains, but those 'features' can be turned
 off. Anything else that I should be aware of?

Of course I'm sure you know that DNS has nothing to do with
ping response times or network throughput.

Maybe it's time to get a new ISP. I have 1Mbps/1Mbps ADSL
and it's about 38ms to google, I also have 16Mbps/2Mbps cable
modem and it's about 34ms to google.

If you don't have any other ISP options then perhaps you should
consider moving to a location where there are more options if
internet performance is that important to you. Or perhaps other
options such as T1 lines etc are available at higher prices.

I find it funny that so many people out there seem to expect
to be able to get 10Mbit+ speeds for $20/mo. Then they get
upset when they find out the system is 100x oversubscribed
and ends up being slow as hell. You get what you pay for.
Co-workers at my company are all pissed off because one of
the branch offices is off line because the $40/mo DSL line
has been down for days and the provider doesn't have a
ETA for recovery. You get what you pay for.

At the same time the company spends about $35k/mo on
roughly 800Mbit of internet bandwidth which comes out
to around $43/Mbit(average across 4 ISPs). Which to me
is dirt cheap, I'm used to buying bandwidth in lower
volumes, and at least from Tier 1 ISPs it's easily $95/Mbit,
and easily double that in Europe/Asia in many cases.

I read an article recently estimating costs for Verizon FiOS
to be roughly $4,000 per subscriber just to get them wired
up. Doesn't even take into account ongoing bandwidth costs
associated with those accounts.

If you suspect OpenDNS as a problem you can always setup your
own name server(s) for caching requests. I've never used
OpenDNS myself though some systems at my company use it(not
for much longer). I've run my own name servers for about 12
years now(my authoritative name servers are on my DSL, moving
to co-location this weekend).

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Orage and dbus in debian ?

2008-09-10 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi,

I'm trying adding .ics files from orage command line.

On my debian sid box:

$ orage -a ~/tmp/evento_orage

** (orage:6432): WARNING **: Can not do add foreign file without dbus.
failed file=/home/javi/tmp/evento_orage

$ ps aux | grep dbus
103   3143  0.0  0.1   2752  1080 ?Ss   07:52   0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
javi  4570  0.0  0.0   3108   696 ?S08:04   0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4
javi  4571  0.0  0.0   2624   968 ?Ss   08:04   0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 9 --session
javi  4651  0.0  0.6  34252  6520 ?SNsl 08:05   0:00
pinot-dbus-daemon
javi  6481  0.0  0.0   3652   812 pts/2S+   08:29   0:00 grep dbus

$aptitude search ~i~ndbus
i   dbus   - simple
interprocess messaging system
i   dbus-x11   - simple
interprocess messaging system (X11 deps)
i   libdbus-1-3- simple
interprocess messaging system
i   libdbus-1-dev  - simple
interprocess messaging system (development headers)
i A libdbus-glib-1-2   - simple
interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library)
i   libdbus-glib-1-dev - simple
interprocess messaging system (GLib interface)
i A libnet-dbus-perl   - Extension for
the DBus bindings
i A libqt4-dbus- Qt 4 D-Bus
module
i   python-dbus- simple
interprocess messaging system (Python interface)

Which package should I install or configure to do the trick ?

Thank you

Debian Rocks!


diff display

2008-09-10 Thread James A. Donald
Under windows, diff usually works like windiff - you see
the two versions side by side, with the differences
highlighted by color

git-gui, however gives me a diff where I see a single
stream annotated with + and -

I find the single stream display really obscure, ugly, 
and confusing.

So if I had a file that used to be
first
error
anoth
more
again

And it was changed to

first
anoth 
new 
again

Then the linux tools I have now would display the
changes as
 first
-error
 anoth
-more 
+new
 again

While the windows tools I am used to would display it as
two streams side by side
 first   first
-error
 anoth   anoth
-more   +new
 again   again

but with color highlighting instead of + and -

Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the 
way they do in windows? 

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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Javier Barroso
I recommend meld package

See you later !

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Under windows, diff usually works like windiff - you see
 the two versions side by side, with the differences
 highlighted by color

 git-gui, however gives me a diff where I see a single
 stream annotated with + and -

 I find the single stream display really obscure, ugly,
 and confusing.

 So if I had a file that used to be
first
error
anoth
more
again

 And it was changed to

first
anoth
new
again

 Then the linux tools I have now would display the
 changes as
 first
-error
 anoth
-more
+new
 again

 While the windows tools I am used to would display it as
 two streams side by side
 first   first
-error
 anoth   anoth
-more   +new
 again   again

 but with color highlighting instead of + and -

 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the
 way they do in windows?

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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,10.Sep.08, 17:52:49, James A. Donald wrote:

[...] 

 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the way they do in 
 windows? 
 
I'm almost sure it can be done by combining git with a tool like vimdiff 
(vim actually, but I'm sure emacs has something similar).

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/10 nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dotan Cohen wrote:

 Are there any known problems / gotchas with OpenDNS? I do know that
 they redirect google queries through their own servers and return ads
 in place of unregistered domains, but those 'features' can be turned
 off. Anything else that I should be aware of?

 Of course I'm sure you know that DNS has nothing to do with
 ping response times or network throughput.


I know, but because of the latency I suspect that DNS lookup is at
least part of the problem. I put the slow response times in just show
how poor my ISP performs in general, which is felt in every aspect of
their service. Even a few hours downtime every month is common.

 Maybe it's time to get a new ISP. I have 1Mbps/1Mbps ADSL
 and it's about 38ms to google, I also have 16Mbps/2Mbps cable
 modem and it's about 34ms to google.


If I could test drive every ISP for a week or two and then decide I
would, we have three to choose from. However, in my country we pay for
the last mile from a different company than the ISP. That is, I have
an ISP providing 'net to the last mile provider, and the last mile
provider own the connection between myself and the ISP. It generally
overcomplicates things and makes a for a ton of problems, not to
mention blame for shifting when something is wrong.

 If you don't have any other ISP options then perhaps you should
 consider moving to a location where there are more options if
 internet performance is that important to you. Or perhaps other
 options such as T1 lines etc are available at higher prices.


There are other considerations keeping my in the house we just bought
two years ago.

 I find it funny that so many people out there seem to expect
 to be able to get 10Mbit+ speeds for $20/mo. Then they get
 upset when they find out the system is 100x oversubscribed
 and ends up being slow as hell. You get what you pay for.
 Co-workers at my company are all pissed off because one of
 the branch offices is off line because the $40/mo DSL line
 has been down for days and the provider doesn't have a
 ETA for recovery. You get what you pay for.


Actually, we pay almost double that for a 1.5 MB/sec line. At the
time, it was from the most expensive ISP but they were great and were
worth the cost. And they were not afraid of the L-word. However, they
were bought by The Big Scary Monopoly ISP and now the service sucks.
However, the prices have changed enough in the market that the price
is competitive. I would gladly pay more for a better ISP.

 At the same time the company spends about $35k/mo on
 roughly 800Mbit of internet bandwidth which comes out
 to around $43/Mbit(average across 4 ISPs). Which to me
 is dirt cheap, I'm used to buying bandwidth in lower
 volumes, and at least from Tier 1 ISPs it's easily $95/Mbit,
 and easily double that in Europe/Asia in many cases.

 I read an article recently estimating costs for Verizon FiOS
 to be roughly $4,000 per subscriber just to get them wired
 up. Doesn't even take into account ongoing bandwidth costs
 associated with those accounts.


There was a great discussion on /. recently about this. In fact, that
is what got me thinking about OpenDNS and solutions in general.

 If you suspect OpenDNS as a problem you can always setup your
 own name server(s) for caching requests. I've never used
 OpenDNS myself though some systems at my company use it(not
 for much longer). I've run my own name servers for about 12
 years now(my authoritative name servers are on my DSL, moving
 to co-location this weekend).


I will play with TinyDNS and see if it helps. I mostly visit the same
sites and rarely have to experiment with new sites.

Thanks.

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Ron Johnson

On 09/09/08 22:38, Dave Patterson wrote:

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:12:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 09/09/08 20:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Wed,10.Sep.08, 04:26:07, Dotan Cohen wrote:

My Internet access has been getting slower and slower and my ISP is a joke:

$ ping google.com
PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243
time=180 ms

 What seems to be the problem here?

It's 1/3 slower than my 12Mbps cable modem connection.


Heck, I envy him:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mtr -c30 --report -n www.google.com
HOST: davescrunch Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. 192.168.1.1   0.0%301.0   0.9   0.8   1.3   0.1
  2. 124.122.205.1 0.0%30   20.0  19.5  18.7  20.3   0.4
  3. 210.86.189.53 0.0%30   19.4  19.4  18.9  20.0   0.3
  4. 10.169.53.1   0.0%30   21.9  22.5  21.2  27.8   1.2
  5. 61.90.132.86  0.0%30   21.4  23.6  20.6  82.3  11.1
  6. 61.90.133.237 0.0%30   21.4  24.1  20.2 106.2  15.5
  7. 61.90.254.89  0.0%30   20.9  20.6  19.8  21.3   0.4
  8. 203.144.144.270.0%30   20.4  20.4  19.6  21.4   0.5
  9. 61.91.210.1   0.0%30   21.0  26.5  20.3 113.7  20.4
 10. 61.19.10.25   0.0%30   20.3  21.0  20.0  21.8   0.4
 11. 202.47.253.1460.0%30   20.9  21.1  20.3  21.9   0.4
 12. 61.19.9.2 0.0%30   35.5  40.3  34.6  75.0  10.7
 13. 72.14.196.217 0.0%30  135.9 136.3 135.3 137.2   0.4
 14. 209.85.254.1660.0%30  136.0 139.8 135.3 213.3  14.6
 15. 209.85.241.2210.0%30  135.9 137.9 134.7 208.1  13.3
 16. 209.85.250.1010.0%30  136.4 137.2 135.6 151.3   3.2
 17. 209.85.252.65 3.3%30  146.3 141.5 136.3 149.4   4.4
 18. 209.85.175.99 3.3%30  136.8 136.7 136.1 137.5   0.4


I wonder why your packets have such a longer trip than mine do.  And 
what's the story with hop #13?


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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread François Cerbelle

Le Mer 10 septembre 2008 09:52, James A. Donald a écrit :
[...]
 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the
 way they do in windows?

I use Mercurial instead of GIT, but it is very close. I use it under Unix
(Solaris and Linux) and Windows. And I use KDiff3 under Unix and Windows
too. It can do three-file merge, has color highlight and can also do
directory diff.

So, if Git can use it, I recommend KDiff3


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Re: suspend/hibernate in gnome-lenny

2008-09-10 Thread Moisés Redondo
El Wednesday 10 September 2008 02:51:42 Cassiano Leal escribió:
 Did you check that your user is in the powerdev group?

 $ groups username

 Check that powerdev is in the list of groups. If not,

 $ sudo adduser username powerdev

 Log out and in again, and retry.

 Cheers,
 Cassiano Leal

Thank you for your answers,

I'm on the powerdev group and I've already tweak visudo to run s2ram/s2disk 
without propmpting for a password...

I'm figuring what is called when performing an action through 
gnome-power-manager (i.e., when clicking the shutdown button and selecting 
suspend or hibernate in the gnome window that appears). I'll keep 
searching...

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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-10 09:52, James A. Donald wrote:
 Under windows, diff usually works like windiff - you see
 the two versions side by side, with the differences
 highlighted by color
 
 git-gui, however gives me a diff where I see a single
 stream annotated with + and -
 
 I find the single stream display really obscure, ugly, 
 and confusing.

Linux's diff by default works this way, because most people here
consider it more easy to spot differences on longer lines, if they are
placed on top of each other. Tools like kdiff3 have a side by side view.
To obtain this result on the command line use diff's -y option.

I guess it just takes a bit of getting used to.

 but with color highlighting instead of + and -

On the comand line you get color highlighting by means of git's --color
option. (See 'man git-diff'). These settings can be made permanent by
putting them in your .gitconf. As an example here is part of mine:

/-
[color]
branch = auto
diff = auto
status = auto
[color branch]
current = green reverse
local = blue
remote = yellow
[color diff]
meta = green bold
frag = magenta bold
old = red bold
new = blue bold
[color status]
added = blue bold
changed = yellow bold
untracked = cyan bold
\-

I don't know, if this will activate colors for the gui, though. (Just
tried it myself: at least I get colors on lenny.)

 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the
 way they do in windows?

/rhetorical question
If you insist that things in linux should be just like in windows, why
bother using linux?
rhetorical question

Sorry I can't help you with your side-by-side issue. I'm sure it
wouldn't be to difficult to write a little script that temporarily
clones a certain state of your git project to a different file location
and invokes kdiff3 on the tree and it's copy.

HTH,

Johannes




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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Ron Johnson

On 09/10/08 04:04, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

On 2008-09-10 09:52, James A. Donald wrote:

[snip]



Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the
way they do in windows?


/rhetorical question
If you insist that things in linux should be just like in windows, why
bother using linux?
rhetorical question


And he uses in windows like fancy GUI file diffing is built into 
the OS, as opposed to it being part of a S.C.C.S. that runs under 
Windows.  Makes me suspicious.


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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:52:49PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:

 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the 
 way they do in windows? 

You can also look ast colordiff
(http://freshmeat.net/projects/colordiff/). I have not used it though.

Regards
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Re: MRT HOW TO?

2008-09-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-08 06:53, GI_Mike - Herman von Mandel wrote:
 Greetings to the list!
 
 Does anybody have access to a good MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing
 Toolkit) HOW TO? I have searched the web and the debian.org pages (as
 well as merit.edu - apparently the original maintainer) but I can't
 find a HOW TO or man/info page anywhere.

From it's upstream page [1] it appears to be 'dead' since 2000. So I
wouldn't be too optimistic to get some documentation from there :-(

HTH,

Johannes

[1]
$ aptitude show mrt |grep ^Homepage
Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mrt/





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Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-10 11:18, Johann Spies wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:52:49PM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
 
 Can I get file changes recorded in git to display the 
 way they do in windows? 
 
 You can also look ast colordiff
 (http://freshmeat.net/projects/colordiff/). I have not used it though.

colordiff can be used as a drop-in replacement for diff. I use it on a
daily basis, though IMHO the better way for git is to use its built in
color management.

Cheers,

Johannes
 
 Regards
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Re: MRT HOW TO?

2008-09-10 Thread Clifford W. Hansen
On Monday 08 September 2008 06:53:24 GI_Mike - Herman von Mandel wrote:
 Greetings to the list!

 Does anybody have access to a good MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit) HOW
 TO? I have searched the web and the debian.org pages (as well as merit.edu
 - apparently the original maintainer) but I can't find a HOW TO or man/info
 page anywhere.

 Thanks!

This has from what I've read and started looking at been replaced by rrdtool. 
(if I am wrong please correct me).

This will probably help with finding a good tutorial.

I'm still trying to wade through a couple, but mainly:
  apt-get install rrdtool
  man rrdtool

I think that will help the most for now...

HTH
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RE: MRT HOW TO?

2008-09-10 Thread Tammo Schuelke
I think you're confusing MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit) and MRTG 
(Multi-Router Traffic Grapher).

 -Original Message-
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 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
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 Subject: Re: MRT HOW TO?
 
 On Monday 08 September 2008 06:53:24 GI_Mike - Herman von Mandel wrote:
  Greetings to the list!
 
  Does anybody have access to a good MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit)
 HOW
  TO? I have searched the web and the debian.org pages (as well as merit.edu
  - apparently the original maintainer) but I can't find a HOW TO or man/info
  page anywhere.
 
  Thanks!
 
 This has from what I've read and started looking at been replaced by rrdtool.
 (if I am wrong please correct me).
 
 This will probably help with finding a good tutorial.
 
 I'm still trying to wade through a couple, but mainly:
   apt-get install rrdtool
   man rrdtool
 
 I think that will help the most for now...
 
 HTH
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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 09/09/08 22:38, Dave Patterson wrote:

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:12:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 09/09/08 20:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Wed,10.Sep.08, 04:26:07, Dotan Cohen wrote:
My Internet access has been getting slower and slower and my ISP is 
a joke:


$ ping google.com
PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243
time=180 ms

 What seems to be the problem here?

It's 1/3 slower than my 12Mbps cable modem connection.


Heck, I envy him:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mtr -c30 --report -n www.google.com
HOST: davescrunch Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst 
StDev


snip



I wonder why your packets have such a longer trip than mine do.  And 
what's the story with hop #13?




and how come when I do that I only get:

HOST: debian  Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev

and zip. My firewall?

Hugo


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Repository-problem

2008-09-10 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hello,

I have a very simple test-repository:
deb http://www.vandervlis.nl/debian/ ./

It works, but it was not signed. Now I try to get the signing OK, but
when I do an apt-get update I get this error:

Failed to fetch http://www.vandervlis.nl/debian/./Release  Unable to
find expected entry  Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

What will be wrong?
Please take a look to my Release-file:
http://www.vandervlis.nl/debian/Release

The code is only Perl and bash, so I can use it for all architectures.

Met vriendelijke groet,
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Re: MRT HOW TO?

2008-09-10 Thread Clifford W. Hansen
On Wednesday 10 September 2008 11:44:21 Tammo Schuelke wrote:
 I think you're confusing MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit) and MRTG
 (Multi-Router Traffic Grapher).

  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:35 AM
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: MRT HOW TO?
 
  On Monday 08 September 2008 06:53:24 GI_Mike - Herman von Mandel wrote:
   Greetings to the list!
  
   Does anybody have access to a good MRT (Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit)
 
  HOW
 
   TO? I have searched the web and the debian.org pages (as well as
   merit.edu - apparently the original maintainer) but I can't find a HOW
   TO or man/info page anywhere.
  
   Thanks!
 
  This has from what I've read and started looking at been replaced by
  rrdtool. (if I am wrong please correct me).
 
  This will probably help with finding a good tutorial.
 
  I'm still trying to wade through a couple, but mainly:
apt-get install rrdtool
man rrdtool
 
  I think that will help the most for now...
 
  HTH
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when dpkg can't get a lock

2008-09-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
Could the repeated error messages actually be accurate?  I was doing some 
reading over in the ubuntu forum and one possibility that was suggested 
was apt might be running at the same time aptitude was running looking for 
package updates.  If that's possible what might have enabled it in all the 
dictionary packages one of which was dictionary-common?




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[OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-09-10 09:52, James A. Donald wrote:
 We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because 
 of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this 
 right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.
 
 http://www.jim.com/  James A. Donald

I am happy that I am privileged to live in a society that has abandoned
that kind of morality that probably was custom around the stone ages,
but has since experienced the advancement of civilisation.

I am sorry to hear that this apparently is not the case for you.

(This is not to say, that all people live up to higher moral standards
than arbitrary law, but society itself, fortunately!, does. )

Regards,

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Getting Minimum Required Packages from Windows

2008-09-10 Thread Himanshu
Hi,

 Is there an easy way to get a package and all the packages it depends
on directly or indirectly, from Windows. I have a limited monthly internet
quota and I want to download just the minimum necessary packages.

 I am connected to the internet only from Windows and I couldn't setup
the network on Debian GNU/Linux.

 The one particular package I need is apache2-mpm-prefork and its
depends tree seems too big to download manually.

Thanks,
++imanshu


[OT] Debian Sig

2008-09-10 Thread Rich Healey
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I've seen a ASCII art sig on this list, of the debian swirl.. but can't
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If anyone's got it that'd be great..

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Re: Getting Minimum Required Packages from Windows

2008-09-10 Thread François Cerbelle

Le Mer 10 septembre 2008 13:34, Himanshu a écrit :
  Is there an easy way to get a package and all the packages it depends
 on directly or indirectly, from Windows. I have a limited monthly internet
 quota and I want to download just the minimum necessary packages.
  I am connected to the internet only from Windows and I couldn't setup
 the network on Debian GNU/Linux.
  The one particular package I need is apache2-mpm-prefork and its
 depends tree seems too big to download manually.

If I well understood, you have a Linux box at home with a limited Internet
quota and a windows box somewhere else without quota ?

If it is right, I think you could download from the unlimited access a DVD
ISO to burn. You will use this as a source for sources.list. You will have
a lot of other packages to install.

If you only need the apache2-mpm-prefork package and its depends, there is
a solution to get its dependencies tree, but I dont remember it (it can be
used to draw graphwiz graph, look for the work graphviz in the apt-cache
man page).

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Re: rsync over lan

2008-09-10 Thread tyler
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 tyler wrote:

 [I use my lan to]
 do the backup from my user account as:

 rsync -av --include-from=/home/tyler/rsync_includes /
   etch.mynetwork:/home/tyler/laptop

 Then the ownerships all get set to tyler tyler, even when they are
 originally root root. In order to preserve the ownerships, I have to run
 the above command as root, which requires that I configure sshd on the
 desktop to accept root logins. Even behind a NAT router, that doesn't
 seem like a good idea. Am I missing something?

 Often, rsync is used like this only with dedicated LAN ports, not
 through a bridge. In that case, you simply use fixed IP addresses
 with the dedicated ports, and use hosts.allow and hosts.deny to
 set up security. In that way, unless you have an actual breach
 of one of the host machines itself (as opposed to simply compromise
 of the bridge) you don't get a problem. You use a different domain
 for the dedicated local connections, e.g. 192 on the NAT LAN, and
 172 for the dedicated ports. Then make sure that the LAN domain
 is denied for the dedicated ports. The dedicated ports may
 then be connected via a crossover cable, or if you want a few
 machines, then via an ethernet hub. It is key not to connect
 the bridge and the hub together. Then only allow root login
 from the dedicated ports. I'm not expert on these matters, so
 I don't know the details of how to set that up. Perhaps it's
 as simple as where you permit an NFS mount to come from.


Thanks. This seems a little involved given my LAN is composed of exactly
three computers, my laptop, my desktop, and my wife's laptop, which
never leaves the house. Given what Celejar reported wrt root logins for
sshd, I'm thinking I may just leave the root login set to yes, but set
it to accept only key authentication, rather than actual password
logins.

Thanks,

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Video with Etch Chroot on amd64?

2008-09-10 Thread Thomas H. George
I used debootstap to create an chroot ia32 etch system and have set it to start
at F8 and start gnome on F9.  All works well except playing video's
(Youtube, NYTimes, etc.)  The video's fail with a message that
Macromedia Flash 9 must be installed.  I can't do this because the
system is booted with a 2.6.26-1-amd64 kernel.

The instructions I followed in creating the chroot system implied it is
possible to play the video's.  If so, what have I failed to install?

Tom


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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:52:38AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 I wonder why your packets have such a longer trip than mine do.  And  
 what's the story with hop #13?

As we say here, TIT (This Is Thailand) - you get weird hops as you cross
borders and such.  Gummint tries to intrude as well, but their main machines
were cracked long ago and never fixed.  I saw a desktop running Win 98
in the immigration offices last week!  One has to be very proactive about
security in these parts...

Cheers,
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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:01:38AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 and how come when I do that I only get:

 HOST: debian  Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev

 and zip. My firewall?

 Hugo

More'n likely.  What are you using?

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Re: grammar tool in linux ... perhaps in emacs

2008-09-10 Thread Felipe Gallois
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 02:06, David Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 09 September 2008 22:47:14 debian-user-digest-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well
  i know just queequeg, which works with the console...
  i once made a small tutorial for making it work for a professor, so maybe
  you can do something with it!
 
 
 http://www.gallois.com.br/blog/2008/07/30/grammar-checker-on-linux-with-que
 equeg/

 The link on this tutorial is not current. Get the whole thing from:
 queequeg.sourceforge.net/index-e.htm


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since queequeg was discontinued, i felt free to host the file as well, maybe
someone find it useful
i linked the sourceforge site, it was just a tip
sorry if someone got offended, it was by no means my intention
;)

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Re: [OT] Debian Sig

2008-09-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:49:53 +1000, Rich Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 I've seen a ASCII art sig on this list, of the debian swirl.. but can't
 nut out what to google to find it!
 
 If anyone's got it that'd be great..


http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=debian+logo+ascii+art

leads to:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/07/msg00686.html

HTH

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Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Rob McBroom

On 2008-Sep-10, at 7:31 AM, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:


On 2008-09-10 09:52, James A. Donald wrote:

We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because
of the kind of animals that we are. True law derives from this
right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state.

http://www.jim.com/  James A. Donald


I am happy that I am privileged to live in a society that has  
abandoned

that kind of morality that probably was custom around the stone ages,
but has since experienced the advancement of civilisation.



Umm. The quote is about rights. Rights are an intrinsic part of every  
person. They don't change depending on where (or when) you live.


And rights have nothing to do with need. If you never need to defend  
yourself, good for you. But you still have a right to.


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Re: rsync over lan

2008-09-10 Thread Rob McBroom

On 2008-Sep-9, at 9:17 PM, tyler wrote:


In order to preserve the ownerships, I have to run
the above command as root, which requires that I configure sshd on the
desktop to accept root logins. Even behind a NAT router, that doesn't
seem like a good idea. Am I missing something?




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Re: Remote administration of a machine behind NAT

2008-09-10 Thread Bill Shofner

On 09/09/2008 03:13:52 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 10:08:10AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 This is not unusual here.

Here being?  Somewhere in +0300 is kinda broad.  :D

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It is also not unheard of in the USA. My parents have an IDSL  
connection through Winstream in KY. They connect through a router at  
the telco (you even need a password) and get a IP address in the  
192.168.  range. I thought it kind of strange that they did not have a  
public IP address, but that seems to be the case.



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Re: rsync over lan

2008-09-10 Thread Rob McBroom

Sorry about the previous (useless) message.

On 2008-Sep-9, at 9:17 PM, tyler wrote:


In order to preserve the ownerships, I have to run
the above command as root, which requires that I configure sshd on the
desktop to accept root logins. Even behind a NAT router, that doesn't
seem like a good idea. Am I missing something?


As others have mentioned, there are ways to make this more secure.  
Allow root logins 'without-password' and create a key-pair. You can  
restrict it further in `authorized_keys` on the client side by adding  
things like this:


no-port-forwarding,no-X11-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,no-pty

I also prefer to use rsync to pull rather than push for backups  
(especially when root is involved). In other words, have the machine  
that stores the backups locked down as tight as possible and give it  
root access to the machines you want backed up. That way, if a  
client machine gets compromised, it doesn't have automatic root  
access to where all of your backups live. In your case, the desktop  
should be able to get into the laptop as root, but not the other way  
around.


The drawback is, in your case, the laptop might not always be powered  
on or it might not always be on the same network as the desktop  
machine, so you can't set up a simple schedule.


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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Dave Patterson wrote:

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:01:38AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


and how come when I do that I only get:

HOST: debian  Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev

and zip. My firewall?

Hugo


More'n likely.  What are you using?



Firehol

Hugo


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Re: rsync over lan

2008-09-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:30:01PM -0400, Celejar wrote:

[ Snip stuff about password-less root login, with which I agree ]

 B)  Fakeroot can apparently more or less do what you want; install it,
 and read README.saving.  It claims to be usable with rsync to do
 exactly what you want (although it says that it will not work
 perfectly); I haven't tried it.

Be careful with fakeroot:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /etc/ | grep -v root
total 2156
-rw-r-  1 asterisk asterisk   4500 2008-08-12 23:31 amportal.conf
drwxrwxr-x  4 asterisk asterisk   4096 2008-09-10 13:57 asterisk
-rw-r-  1 mpd  audio  8037 2008-01-30 05:25 mpd.conf
drwxr-x---  2 partimag partimag   4096 2008-08-31 21:02 partimaged
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fakeroot ls -l /etc/ | grep -v root
total 2156

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