Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-16 Thread Sirius
t Manager for Red Hat. No, this is not necessarily a kernel bug. It can be a hardware bug and it is plausible it can not be solved with a driver work-around. You are hitting a problem and you want someone else to fix it for you. The answer may simply be that you need to replace the NIC with somet

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-16 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 09:05:29AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > It has been known to happen that drivers implement workarounds for issues > > in the hardware itself, so that hardware bugs do not get tripped (or are > > tripped less often). > >  > > You

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It has been known to happen that drivers implement workarounds for issues > in the hardware itself, so that hardware bugs do not get tripped (or are > tripped less often).  You make it sound like it's a rare occurrence, but it's actually quite common. Most of it is discrete so you'

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Tue, 16 Apr 2024), Sirius thus quoth: > In days of yore (Mon, 15 Apr 2024), Jamie thus quoth: > > So  there is a very nasty bug in the e1000e network card > > driver. Doing some reading turned up a Proxmox thread about the issues with these Intel NICs.

Re: e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Sirius
l page states this is upstream kernel only at this point, so going to SourceForge for their out-of-tree driver is no longer an option. > I am running Debian 12 Bookworm. > > You will get the message "Detected Hardware Unit Hang" and then > the network card just stops working.

e1000e driver Network Card Detected Hardware Unit Hang

2024-04-15 Thread Jamie
So  there is a very nasty bug in the e1000e network card driver. I am running Debian 12 Bookworm. You will get the message "Detected Hardware Unit Hang" and then the network card just stops working. This is a built in NIC  on the computer The computer is a is a HP Prodesk

Re: OT: Lista de correo sobre HARDWARE

2024-03-30 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
El 2024-03-26 a las 16:23 +, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escribió: > Estimada gente: > Disculpen el OT... > ¿Conocen alguna lista de correos o foro web sobre Hardware? ¿De hardware en general o buscas algo más concreto? > Antes había muchos pero ahora... parece que han desaparec

Re: OT: Lista de correo sobre HARDWARE

2024-03-29 Thread Camaleón
El 2024-03-26 a las 16:23 +, Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena escribió: > Estimada gente: > > Disculpen el OT... > ¿Conocen alguna lista de correos o foro web sobre Hardware? ¿De hardware en general o buscas algo más concreto? > Antes había muchos pero ahora... parece que han

OT: Lista de correo sobre HARDWARE

2024-03-26 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena
Estimada gente: Disculpen el OT... ¿Conocen alguna lista de correos o foro web sobre Hardware? Antes había muchos pero ahora... parece que han desaparecido o por lo menos los que yo conocía. Y en la WEB... la información que suelo buscar seguramente debe estar pero... con tanta página y sitio

Re: Data and hardware protection measures

2024-01-28 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Kjörling composed on 2024-01-28 19:23 (UTC): > On 28 Jan 2024 19:19 +0100, from h...@adminart.net (hw): >> On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 15:56 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: >>> It's also worth talking to your local electrician about installing an >>> incoming-mains overvoltage protection for

Re: Data and hardware protection measures; was: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:19:55 +0100 hw wrote: Hello hw, >How do you know in advance when the battery will have failed? Even my very basic UPS (APC Backup 1400) has a light on the front labelled "Replace Battery". That, combined with a very annoying high pitch scream, are pretty good motivators

Re: Data and hardware protection measures

2024-01-28 Thread Michael Kjörling
; years) every couple years [...] > > To comment myself, I think was 3 years, not 5, sorry. > >>> The hardware is usually extremely difficult --- and may be impossible >>> --- to replace. >> >> And let's not forget that you can _plan_ to perform the battery >> replaceme

Re: Data and hardware protection measures; was: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-28 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 15:56 +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 26 Jan 2024 16:11 +0100, from h...@adminart.net (hw): > > I rather spend the money on new batteries (EUR 40 last time after 5 > > years) every couple years [...] To comment myself, I think was 3 years, not 5, sorry. &

Re: Data and hardware protection measures; was: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-26 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 26 Jan 2024 16:11 +0100, from h...@adminart.net (hw): > I rather spend the money on new batteries (EUR 40 last time after 5 > years) every couple years [...] > > The hardware is usually extremely difficult --- and may be impossible > --- to replace. And let's not forget that

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-09 Thread Andre Rodier
ks on > the eevblog can get really deep into the weeds on subjects like this. > If you are not careful, they might provide you with circuit designs > and have you build your own hardware. > > Also see <https://www.eevblog.com/> and > <https://www.google.com/search?q=to

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
areful, they might provide you with circuit designs and have you build your own hardware. Also see <https://www.eevblog.com/> and <https://www.google.com/search?q=totp+hardware+site:eevblog.com>. Jeff

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > You could have contacted them to get a replacement, 100% faulty phone > calls means Qualcomm modem was faulty. But I assume you contacted them > and were unhappy with the result, hence your negative opinion on > provided customer support, or lack thereof. They were willing to sell

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread debian-user
piorunz wrote: > On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: > > If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine > > as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, > > etc.** > > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone.

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
have one) but a hardware problem seems more likely. Inquiries on the forums produced no results. I successfully installed Mobian but that did not help. Too bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls. Sad to hear. My copy worked, phone calls were great. You could have contacted them

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 13:13, John Hasler wrote: Too bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls. Phones now a days are not expected nor intended to make phone calls -- It's not easy to be me

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Some results of searches indicated that the card might need to be activated on another phone (I didn't have one) but a hardware problem seems more likely. Inquiries on the forums produced no results. I successfully installed Mobian but that did not help. Too bad: it does everything I want excep

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/12/2023 15:20, John Hasler wrote: Piotr writes: Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. Why you say so? What doesn't? It worked for me quite well, as a device in early development. I really liked it. I passed

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, etc.** Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. Operating system you want is

Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-05 Thread Andre Rodier
screen is not needed. - A num pad, with about two or three more keys. - A small camera, to scan QR codes. - An internal clock, with a DCF77 or similar device a nice plus. I basically want to implement a hardware TOTP device, as none of them are satisfactory to me. Some looks nice, like ReinerSCTs

memtest86+ on UEFI (was: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router)

2023-12-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Interesting. I have memtest86+ 6.10-4, for amd64, on the machine. Then AFAIK it is not a known problem (IOW, it should work). > Maybe I'll try a USB stick version. IIRC the memtest86+ Debian package comes with .iso files which you can (manually) put into /boot/images/ and which boot in a

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-12-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 11:58:11 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known > > problem with UEFI machines. > > AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which > is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI. > IIUC the

Getting UEFI to boot Debian (was: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router)

2023-12-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
d it to have direct access to some of your hardware) but running it inside a VM might save you a fair bit of trouble in the long run. Stefan

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-12-02 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Note: Memtest86 does not appear to work. I believe that is a known > problem with UEFI machines. AFAIK the current memtest86+ (not to be confused with memtest86, which is proprietary) claims to work fine on UEFI. IIUC the one in oldstable doesn't OTOH. Stefan

Re: Set UEFI boot target with Windows (was: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router)

2023-11-30 Thread Joe
On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 13:27:59 +0100 Arno Lehmann wrote: > > ... have you ever tried > > bcdedit /bootsequence > > In general, the built-in help of bcdedit is not bad, needs a bit of > patience, though. > > And of course we lack the flexibility of tools such as awk or sed on > Windows, to

Set UEFI boot target with Windows (was: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router)

2023-11-30 Thread Arno Lehmann
it wrong deliberately. Well... ... probably yes. But that's MS and their hardware partners for you. It's getting better the more MS loses interest in actually selling Windows. Cheers, Arno -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann Sandstr. 6, 49080 Osnabrück

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 18:34:30 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > As I understand things, a well functioning UEFI system does not need > to use GRUB. The entries for Linux and Windows will be in the UEFI > boot menu, and you can boot directly using EFI variables. > It's the 'well functioning'

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 6:17 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700 > Charles Curley wrote: > > > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > > router/gateway computer. > >

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:57:28 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. Thank you all for much useful advice. I ended up with an ACEMAGIC T8

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Tixy
nt works finem its just that when Debian drops support for the armel architecture I'm going to have to fork out for new hardware, so am keeping my eye out for cheap options. Another alternative is to just build armel myself. That might work for the first release after the architecture is dropped,

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 10:49 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > > I'm currently running a Globalscale SheevaPlug and a DreamPlugs but > > Debian support for the old ARM architecture is likely to end soon. > > (Dropping it seems to come up each release, but so far they're > > still > > releasing

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread basti
boards are supported and if you look inside that board's `.dts` file you can see which parts of its hardware are actually supported by the vanilla kernel (tho this is not written in natural language, so if you're not familiar with the technical details of devicetree files it can be somewhat

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
oards are supported and if you look inside that board's `.dts` file you can see which parts of its hardware are actually supported by the vanilla kernel (tho this is not written in natural language, so if you're not familiar with the technical details of devicetree files it can be somewhat challengi

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/11/23 15:40, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. Are these the usual SBC

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:04 +0800, jeremy ardley wrote: > My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an > exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for > Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. Are these the usual SBC setup where you have to run

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/11/23 10:15, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:04:55 +0800 jeremy ardley wrote: > My current favourites are RK3588 based CPU SBC devices which have an > exceptionally fast set of CPUs, high speed networking, and options > for Debian or Ubuntu or OpenWRT or Armbian. They can provide a > network storage service as well

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread jeremy ardley
2.5Gb instead of 4; for a little more money you can get up to 5x 2.5Gb NICs. You can add wifi via a miniPCIe slot; I didn't bother. There are The reality is that for a basic router function you don't need very much hardware and certainly don't need fans. All the commercial Chinese routers

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread gene heskett
On 11/15/23 18:37, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: 16 years is a good amount of value. :) Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 16.11.2023 03:46, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: 16 years is a good amount of value. :) Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 01:58:05 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > 16 years is a good amount of value. :) > Is it Pentium 4 on ITX motherboard? Nope. FIT-PC, first iteration. Processor is an AMD Geode SBC. https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=c256a73072 I did buy a spare hard drive for each,

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
program.) None of my personal machines either. It all depends on specifications for each individual piece of hardware. My desktop has Skylake CPU rated at 65W Base TDP and cooled by tower-style heatsink with 4 heatpipes rated at 130W TDP. Idle, small load temps are 28-32°C, busy workloads: 4 cor

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:31:52 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: > [...] > [...] > I wrote that email as a word of caution, because Roberto had > mentioned he is looking for the device with the same conditions as > OP, which is "no fans". >

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 15.11.2023 07:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags. According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!). IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
> This looks too good to be true and raises many red flags. > According to Intel specs [1] for this processor it's 28W of heat to > dissipate and that is Base Power only, Turbo Boost is whooping 64W(!). > IMO it is impossible to do with fan-less design at this small size, so there > will be at

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread debian-user
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > > router/gateway computer. > > > > It should run Debian. >

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread basti
On 14.11.23 10:45, Anssi Saari wrote: Charles Curley writes: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from pcengines.ch.

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-14 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. I built a router with an APUD4D board and case from pcengines.ch. They're going out of production but are

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 14.11.2023 04:08, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. It should run Debian.

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > It should run Debian. > > It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or > have suitable expansion capability. > > It should be quiet: no fans, and low power requirements. A small > physical footprint would be nice. > > Most of the time it will run

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ough the FIT-PCs do fine with IDE > spinning rust. It sounds like you want an all-in-one of sorts. Something with hardware+software. I don't have a recommendation for that. However, if you would like a piece of hardware that checks most of the boxes and can run whatever you like, then I rec

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 03:57:28PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 > Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a > router/gateway computer. > > It should run Debian. > > It should either have two gigabit

Re: Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread jeremy ardley
On 14/11/23 06:57, Charles Curley wrote: My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or

Hardware Advice Wanted: Router

2023-11-13 Thread Charles Curley
My FIT-PCs that provide network services are getting old, and i386 Linux is slowly fading away. So I would like to replace them with a router/gateway computer. It should run Debian. It should either have two gigabit (or better) Ethernet interfaces or have suitable expansion capability. It

Re: Linux supprt (was: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?])

2023-11-13 Thread Larry Martell
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:48 AM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free > >> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large > >> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire > >> external

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
Anssi Saari [2023-11-13 12:34:13] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> My home NAS is in a completely different category: >> an ARM SBC with on-board SATA. Much smaller, extremely quiet (no fan), >> and between 5W and 10W of power consumption depending on whether it's >> mostly idle (the

Linux supprt (was: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?])

2023-11-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Indeed, technically-inclined people are often better served with Free >> Software, and Free Software can also be a great choice for large >> corporations who can either have on-site techsupport people or can hire >> external support, but it is a lot more difficult to find commercial >> support

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-13 Thread Anssi Saari
Stefan Monnier writes: > My home NAS is in a completely different category: > an ARM SBC with on-board SATA. Much smaller, extremely quiet (no fan), > and between 5W and 10W of power consumption depending on whether it's > mostly idle (the overwhelmingly common case) or not. So which ARM SBC

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread tomas
urse, easier in densely populated areas. In Berlin, e.g., there were several linux user groups which had "open days" (some even once a week) where people went with their hardware and got it fixed. And got to know nice people. Often at no cost. In the smaller city I live now there is at le

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> FOSS is great for learning by doing, but commercial products can be a better > choice when a family member, a friend, a neighbor, and especially clients > and employers, want a computer, a server, a network gateway, etc.. It is > ironically satisfying when those commercial products have FOSS on

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/12/23 09:15, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: An obvious difference between internal and external drives is physical protection. Internal drives and cables are protected. Everything gets power from the same source (PSU, PCU fed

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread David Christensen
that he's been trying for literal years now to make a very simple RAID10 mdadm work on perfectly serviceable hardware. This should be a simple task, but it's not gone well for him and this list is unable to get to the bottom of why (I include myself in that, but I think it ref

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 04:01:47PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/11/23 08:52, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:22:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/10/23 19:46, David Christensen wrote: > > > > On 11/8/23 02:20, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Are these 2TB

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-12 Thread Andy Smith
s use case, the practical situation for Gene is that he's been trying for literal years now to make a very simple RAID10 mdadm work on perfectly serviceable hardware. This should be a simple task, but it's not gone well for him and this list is unable to get to the bottom of why (I include mysel

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have always liked ATX tower cases with lots of drive bays, both internal > and external. Over time, more products have become available with good > cooling and low noise. I have not found a major computer manufacturer who > makes servers with all of those features, so I build my own: > > *

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/23 08:52, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:22:07PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 11/10/23 19:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/8/23 02:20, gene heskett wrote: And I just looked at tht pair, and acc gparted they have both been pvcreated, so I'll leave then alone

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >From what I've read when comparing OpenMediaVault vs TrueNAS, it > usually comes down to the power consumption of the mini computer/mini > pc. 5W can save you $100 USD per year. Probably more now due to > inflation. 5W * 24h/D * 30 D/M * 12M/Y = 43200 Wh, or 43.2KWh per

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 6:20 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >From what I've read when comparing OpenMediaVault vs TrueNAS, it > > usually comes down to the power consumption of the mini computer/mini > > pc. 5W can save you $100 USD per year. Probably more now due to > >

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread gene heskett
On 11/11/23 15:41, Pocket wrote: On 11/11/23 13:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, zero issues. The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered USB hub. Hmm...  so

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
o standup a NAS for my home network. (Currently I'm doing some half-ass file sharing). The enclosure hardware on the short list are <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CN4Z4PC/> and <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y3WDHLD>. The mini computer the enclosure will be attached to will be USB 3.1 o

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 13:47, Stefan Monnier wrote: I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, zero issues. The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered USB hub. Hmm... so maybe the USB connection is not

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have used ssd drives connected to a RPI4 ever since the 4 came out, > zero issues. > The RPI4's boot from the ssd drives. > I have 4 SSD drives connected to a single RPI4 currently, using a powered > USB hub. Hmm... so maybe the USB connection is not directly relevant either and the real

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Pocket
On 11/11/23 12:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: Are these 2TB SSDs or hard disks? I would counsel very strongly indeed against using any ARM-based single board computer as a RAID device on USB connections - they're just *not* up to it. I don't think the issue is whether they're ARM based. The issue

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread fxkl47BF
just my two sense not advice or promotion i've used this device for about 2.5 years with 6tb harddrives in raid 1 i have partitions on the raid for the os, debian, and the rest for backups no problems so far https://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-hc4

Re: Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Are these 2TB SSDs or hard disks? I would counsel very strongly indeed > against using any ARM-based single board computer as a RAID device on > USB connections - they're just *not* up to it. I don't think the issue is whether they're ARM based. The issue is simply how you connect the disks:

Hardware for a back up server? [WAS Re: How to use dmsetuup?]

2023-11-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
  Does anyone here have experience doing that? > > > > > > Yes, but I prefer software RAID -- because I can move the disks to > > another computer with different hardware and the arrays will still work. > >  Hardware RAID typically requires compatible hardware. > >

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-10 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
n M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with >>> Debian 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better >>> hardware support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu >>> is failing me in finding solutions. I'm hoping someone her

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-10 Thread Kent West
graded" to sid (in hopes of getting better >> hardware support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu >> is failing me in finding solutions. I'm hoping someone here can help. >> >> >> > > Have you considered just running Debian

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-10 Thread Kent West
wrote: > > I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with > > Debian 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting > > better hardware support). > > > Out of curiosity, does Debian 12 support the M1 NPU (Neu

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:31 PM Kent West wrote: > I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with Debian > 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better hardware > support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu is fail

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread jeremy ardley
On 10/11/23 04:44, Kent West wrote: I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with Debian 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better hardware support). Out of curiosity, does Debian 12 support the M1 NPU (Neural Processing Unit) ?

Re: Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread Marco M.
Am 09.11.2023 um 14:44:20 Uhr schrieb Kent West: > Not even from "speaker-test" after I've killed X/Wayland/gdm3, although > "speaker-test" (as a non-root user) looks like it's working. It acts > like the speakers are muted, but I can find no way to unmute them. > When I run "speaker-test" as

Hardware Misses on MacBook Air M1 2020

2023-11-09 Thread Kent West
I have an M1-chip 2020 MacBook Air on which I have dual-booted with Debian 12 initially, then "upgraded" to sid (in hopes of getting better hardware support). It has several hardware ... glitches, and my google-fu is failing me in finding solutions. I'm hoping someone here can he

Hardware Error Messages

2023-10-05 Thread Mick Ab
I have a Desktop PC running Debian 11. A few days ago I found the following error messages on an xterm window running in the background :- Message from syslogd@piglit at Sep 28 09:44:25 ... kernel:[51369.604961] [Hardware Error]: Deferred error, no action required. Message from syslogd@piglit

Re: Same Debian, different hardware = different OpenGL version?

2023-10-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2023-10-03 02:43 +0200, Anders Andersson wrote: > I recently installed Debian stable on my old desktop and my trusty old > Thinkpad X200, without messing with any driver settings. Both are > running the default gnome desktop with the same kernel. > > I installed the terminal emulator 'kitty'

Same Debian, different hardware = different OpenGL version?

2023-10-02 Thread Anders Andersson
I recently installed Debian stable on my old desktop and my trusty old Thinkpad X200, without messing with any driver settings. Both are running the default gnome desktop with the same kernel. I installed the terminal emulator 'kitty' from the main repository on both machines but it only works on

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-08 Thread Nicolas George
ce (12023-06-08): > What about ads for car insurance? Yes, what about them? What do you think they have special? (Hint: an ad for a car insurance is not to convince you to subscribe to any insurance rather than none, it is to convince you to subscribe to this insurance rather than any other.)

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-08 Thread ce
On 6/8/23 01:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Ad industry /is/ about convincing people to do things which potentially damage them. So it is deceptive by design. Read up on Big Tobacco for a good example. What about ads for car insurance?

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 08, 2023 at 12:45:38AM +0200, Oliver Schoede wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:05:18 +0200 > wrote: > > >On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 05:59:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > >[...] > > > >> The only case I can see in which such offloading would > >> be unethical is where the website

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-07 Thread Oliver Schoede
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 06:05:18 +0200 wrote: >On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 05:59:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > >[...] > >> The only case I can see in which such offloading would >> be unethical is where the website operator is somehow engaging in >> deceptive behavior, but assuming it is not [...] > >A

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-05 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 05:59:11PM -0400, Celejar wrote: [...] > The only case I can see in which such offloading would > be unethical is where the website operator is somehow engaging in > deceptive behavior, but assuming it is not [...] A pretty strong assumption given that the crushing

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-05 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 16:17:47 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 4/6/23 14:32, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > I believe, web site creators should be blamed more aggressively than > > browser developers for RAM requirements of contemporary web applications. > > > > That was the point that I was making

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> With no client-side javascript, it's not possible to change just a part of > a web page[0]. The server must send the whole web page to be rendered by the > client. So while it decreases CPU usage in the client, it increases network > usage. Isn't it unethical to also "steal" more bandwidth than

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-04 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 10:34:04AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 04:30:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > So the practice is that the whole internet dumps the whole framework > > schtack [2] on you. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly We need better

Re: Firefox resource utilization (was Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?)

2023-06-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 04, 2023 at 04:30:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > So the practice is that the whole internet dumps the whole framework > schtack [2] on you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly

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