--snip--
I now have a list of trolls to ignore, at least some good that came of
the discussion.
--snip--
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:04:28AM +0800, 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com was heard
to say:
dynamic typing is so easy, for every object is a piece of memory, so a
dynamic type is just a memory type.
A wise man once said: everything is trivial, when you ignore
complexity.
(that's a lie: no wise
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Cowley Harriswarewo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote.
But I haven't seen anyone insult him yet -- but then I
haven't read many of the overnight posts yet.
Anybody here watch The daily show. The first time I ever saw a show,
they had a piece where
Please trim your posts!!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:18:34AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I do not think so, every language is a set of hammer, plier and
screwdriver in my eyes, we just need one.
Ahhh, you mean ... drum roll ... The swiss army chainsaw? LOL
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==
I contend that we are both
Will you not be reading it, in the same way you weren't continuing
the discussion?
Here is the thing,
When you describe people in a negative way, that is in an insult. The
big hint that you are doing so, is when you start the sentence with
you're If you are expressing an opinion, it starts
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:16:10AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:33 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:11:31PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il
wrote:
is far from simple.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:22:38 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/22 Peter Crawford creature...@hotmail.com:
Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:43:35PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
What about XML, YAML, HTML, javascript, and such? No more browser? No
more internet? :-)
Of course I will use all of them, I even use windows vista everyday
for playing games, that's my user role; for my programmer role, I will
use Xml
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:18:16 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org wrote:
明覺 writes:
yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Cowley Harriswarewo...@gmail.com wrote:
This guy asked a relatively simple question which I'm paraphrasing
here as can you run Debian without perl or python, the answer is
pretty much no.
He gave his reasons for the question and his opinion on the answers he
2009/6/24 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:02 PM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
Right now you
2009/6/24 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:57 AM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:10 PM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote:
...
Looks like a strange idea to me to run a
明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 03:02:15 明覺 wrote:
we must have an official language
There speaks a well indoctrinated totalitarian!
Lisi
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明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop
manager
* 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com [2009 Jun 24 00:45 -0500]:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Hilco
Wijbengahilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote:
And have you thought about make, m4, gcc, autotools? They all have/are
their own language that you need to learn. gcc uses Lisp (or
something like it)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Nate Bargmannn...@n0nb.us wrote:
* 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com [2009 Jun 24 00:45 -0500]:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Hilco
Wijbengahilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote:
And have you thought about make, m4, gcc, autotools? They all have/are
their own language
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:45:45PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
thank you! I thought they are kind to give me advice, but I'm wrong,
they just want to laught at me, it doesn't matter, I finally know it,
and maybe next time I will discover it earlier.
I still insist my ideal: one language for computer
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Dale Harrisrod...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:45:45PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
thank you! I thought they are kind to give me advice, but I'm wrong,
they just want to laught at me, it doesn't matter, I finally know it,
and maybe next time I will discover
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:11:31PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
is far from simple. There are things you can do in python in one line that
you
would need 100s of lines of code with c.
100s of lines of C code? how about drop
On Dom, 21 Jun 2009, ?? wrote:
Gnu.Linux.(Debian|gNewSense).Gnome.(Mozilla|Gmail|Evolution|Scim|Flashplayer|Codeblocks)
Microsoft.Windows.(Vista|XP).(QQ|Game|Notepad++) Gcc.Gtkmm.Opengl
While your first message did not have this signature, subsequent ones
had. I don't know for sure exactly
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 12:37:25 明覺 wrote:
What a pity
you are!
What does that mean??
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On Qua, 24 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote:
I can tell you now, I really do not like gcc, for it supports so many
useless languages,
gcc is a C compiler, supporting only that.
g++ is a C++ compiler.
gfortran is a fortran compiler.
... and so on.
Maybe you are confusing gcc (the C compiler) with the GNU
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
otoh, I also dislike the need for many scripting languages. Perl, python,
tcl, lua, ruby, lisp, scheme...
I'd be also glad if packages like openssl-blacklist didn't require python...
I think it's a great service to the users that a program like
openssl-blacklist
2009/6/23 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
2009/6/23 Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com:
A very good comparison -- human languages and programming languages.
Then why we must have an official world language - English? What's the
official language in the programming world? If you say you do not need
an
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:49:26PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Although there have been attempts to design one universal
computer language that serves all purposes, all of them have failed to
be generally accepted as filling this role.
Ada does a good job. Except that since no OS is
Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:52:41 -0400
Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com wrote:
...
There are problems for which it would be faster to *learn
perl well enough to write a perl solution* than to write the solution
in C.
Interesting; here's a different perspective (I'm not a serious
On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:21 AM, Cowley Harris wrote:
This guy asked a relatively simple question which I'm paraphrasing
here as can you run Debian without perl or python, the answer is
pretty much no.
He gave his reasons for the question and his opinion on the answers he
was given. He's also
On Jun 24, 2009, at 1:53 AM, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:21:22 -0400
Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com wrote:
...
I'm being blunt, but, honestly, I run a business on custom software
I've written and I can do it
In 20090624052259.ga4...@galactic.demon.co.uk, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Russell Coker on Planet.debian had a post yesterday or so where he pointed
to the very wise advice he'd been given, essentially the people who write
compilers and toolchains are smarter/better programmers
than you are: if you
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 01:43:35PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
What about XML, YAML, HTML, javascript, and such? No more browser?
No
more internet? :-)
Of course I will use all of them, I even use windows vista everyday
for playing games, that's
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:09 AM, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il
wrote:
...
The only one language for microsoft is c#, oh wait, its visual
basic, sorry
wait a minute it's forms for the gui, assembly in the drivers in if
you start
digging you
In 20090624095519.35472r7kcfcmb...@mail.kalinowski.com.br, Eduardo M
KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Qua, 24 Jun 2009, 明覺 wrote:
I can tell you now, I really do not like gcc, for it supports so many
useless languages,
gcc is a C compiler, supporting only that.
g++ is a C++ compiler.
gfortran is a fortran
Original Message
From: shi.min...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without
python and perl?
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:04:28 +0800
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Jochen Schulzm...@well-adjusted.de
wrote:
??:
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:11 AM, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:18:16 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org
wrote:
明覺 writes:
yes, currently it's true,
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明覺 wrote:
One Microsoft Way is perfect if all the microsoft softwares are
free as LGPL.
You realize how silly it is to use free and one way in the same
sentence?
Freedom is the very opposite of having one prefered way for all.
Cheers and happy
On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:05 AM, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Dale Harrisrod...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:45:45PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
thank you! I thought they are kind to give me advice, but I'm wrong,
they just want to laught at me, it doesn't matter, I finally
* 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com [2009 Jun 24 06:39 -0500]:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Nate Bargmannn...@n0nb.us wrote:
I can tell you now, I really do not like gcc, for it supports so many
useless languages, I surely will write my own compiler.
Have you also reinvented the wheel? Did you
Original Message
From: h...@halblog.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without
python and perl?
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:41:58 -0400
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:09 AM, ?? wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Micha
明覺 schrieb:
you do not understand me, and I've been tired to explain my thoughts. thanks.
Then stop explaining your thoughts and 'ideals' forever and all of us
will be happy.
Hans
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Hal Vaughan wrote.
But I haven't seen anyone insult him yet -- but then I
haven't read many of the overnight posts yet.
Anybody here watch The daily show. The first time I ever saw a show,
they had a piece where they had Donald Rumsfeld denying he had ever
said there were weapons of mass
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:33 +0100
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:11:31PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
is far from simple. There are things you can do in python in one line
that you
would
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:53:51 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/24 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:57 AM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:10 PM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22,
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Cowley Harris wrote:
Hal Vaughan wrote.
But I haven't seen anyone insult him yet -- but then I
haven't read many of the overnight posts yet.
Anybody here watch The daily show. The first time I ever saw a show,
they had a piece where they had Donald Rumsfeld
明覺:
thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called learning, it's
just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to
C/C++.
This is plain wrong. How do you do closures in C/C++? What about higher
order
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:35:08 明覺 wrote:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
a) Why *shouldn't* we ignore your Debian questions if we happen to feel like
it?
b) Debian
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote:
I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers,
I'm not.
they
won't be confusing.
You mean confused not confusing. An important difference.
Lisi
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Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:35:08 明覺 wrote:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
a) Why *shouldn't* we ignore your Debian questions if we happen to feel like
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote:
I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers,
I'm not.
they
won't be confusing.
You mean confused not confusing. An important difference.
Really...
Being only a wannabe hacker, and not yet a real
In 20090623111601.gp19...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote:
明覺:
thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called learning, it's
just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to
C/C++.
This is
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:39:53AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
[...]
Boy, I didn't realize that by junior programmer you meant you were that
inexperienced in the field. I don't know if you realize that you've just
basically said you are either unwilling or
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
Right now you are showing that you're a person who asks for advice,
but does not listen to the response. People value their time and will
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 16:12:26 Tony Baldwin wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:18:34 明覺 wrote:
I believe readers of this thread are all advanced programmers,
I'm not.
they
won't be confusing.
You mean confused not confusing. An important difference.
2009/6/21 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:21:22 -0400
Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com wrote:
...
I'm being blunt, but, honestly, I run a business on custom software
I've written and I can do it because I learned from those who knew
more than I did. If I refused to learn from people on this and other
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:44 -0700
Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/21 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages,
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:22:38 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/22 Peter Crawford creature...@hotmail.com:
Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 9:18 PM, 明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org wrote:
明覺 writes:
yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:18:16 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org wrote:
明覺 writes:
yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take full
control of my system, and modify them as i like, if I have those
2009/6/23 Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:44 -0700
Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote:
A similar study was later made of Debian Linux version 2.2 (also
known as Potato); this version of Linux was originally released in
August 2000. This study found that
Micha Feigin:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:39:53 +0800
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com wrote:
Then what's the only one language for linux? I think
it's C/C++.
I'm afraid you are out of luck. All the init scripts are as the name sugests,
scripts (you may get away without bash but you won't get away
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:35 PM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Napoleon rri0...@attglobal.net:
明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:18 PM, John Haslerjhas...@debian.org wrote:
明覺 writes:
yes, currently it's true, but I hope one day I will be able to take
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Lin PIATfp...@klabs.be wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:40 +0800, 明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohentzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Richard Hectorrich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 12:21 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Jun 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, 明覺 wrote:
...
cliche
Beggers can't be choosers.
/cliche
you treat yourself a begger, I'm not, I'm a chooser. Happy begging
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:52:41 -0400
Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Quick storytime: Several years back, I was writing some XML format
converters in Perl. There are wonderful pre-written Perl modules to
parse and output XML. But I wanted to learn more, so I insisted on
doing it all
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Jochen Schulzm...@well-adjusted.de wrote:
明覺:
thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called learning, it's
just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to
C/C++.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Lisi Reiszlisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 03:35:08 明覺 wrote:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
a) Why *shouldn't* we
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith
Jr.b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
In 20090623111601.gp19...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote:
明覺:
thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called learning,
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Henning
Follmannhfollm...@itcfollmann.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:39:53AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com:
[...]
Boy, I didn't realize that by junior programmer you meant you were that
inexperienced in the field. I don't
On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:32 PM, 明覺 wrote:
...
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions
about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions
as a
debian user.
I don't know if your culture is aware of the story of The Boy Who
Cried
Wolf, but you
On Jun 23, 2009, at 8:34 PM, 明覺 wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Frank Lin PIATfp...@klabs.be wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 17:40 +0800, 明覺 wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir
Cohentzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote:
...
I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog,
and
Lisp. teaseOnly *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based
languages. ;)/tease
Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other
languages, I learn other
明覺 wrote:
dynamic typing is so easy, for every object is a piece of memory, so a
dynamic type is just a memory type.
I believe every language has its own advantages, my solution is to
integrate all the advantages of all the languages into one language,
which can be called any name, not only
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote:
You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming
languages because there are NEEDS for different programming languages.
There will NEVER be one programming language which meets all
requirements. Just like there are
2009/6/23 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith
Jr.b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
In 20090623111601.gp19...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote:
明覺:
thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
tired of learning them,
In 752a747f-7c2d-4f79-92e5-915e15df0...@halblog.com, Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote:
I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog,
and
Lisp. teaseOnly *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based
languages. ;)/tease
[...] modify the g++
2009/6/23 Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions as a
debian user.
Right now you are showing that you're a person who asks for advice,
but does not listen to the
Hal Vaughan wrote:
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:13 PM, 明覺 wrote:
...
I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, and
Lisp. teaseOnly *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based
languages. ;)/tease
Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other
On Jun 23, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Dale Harris wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote:
You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming
languages because there are NEEDS for different programming
languages.
There will NEVER be one programming language
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:53:14 -0500
Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote:
[lots of stuff snipped]
Reminder to everyone: please trim quotes.
Celejar
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:28:10PM -0400, Napoleon wrote:
You just don't get it, do you? There are different programming
languages because there are NEEDS for different programming languages.
There will NEVER be one programming language which meets all
requirements. Just
On Jun 23, 2009, at 10:02 PM, 明覺 wrote:
2009/6/23 Jeff Soules sou...@gmail.com:
I open this thread as a programmer, you can ignore my questions
about
programming in the future, but you should not ignore my questions
as a
debian user.
Right now you are showing that you're a person who
Am Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:13:29 +0800
schrieb 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other
languages, I learn other languages in order to extract out their
advantages into C/C++, not for using them, of cause, before I have the
ability to modify the g++
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:51:34 -0400
Dale Harris rod...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, but one is fabeled. Obviously you've never heard this ancient
saying...
One Language to rule them all, One Language to find them,
One Language to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Redmond
This guy asked a relatively simple question which I'm paraphrasing
here as can you run Debian without perl or python, the answer is
pretty much no.
He gave his reasons for the question and his opinion on the answers he
was given. He's also started probably the most interesting thread on
this list
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:13:29AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other
languages, I learn other languages in order to extract out their
advantages into C/C++, not for using them, of cause, before I have the
ability to modify the g++ compilers as I
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Hilco
Wijbengahilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/21 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Micha Feiginmi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:21:22 -0400
Hal Vaughan h...@halblog.com wrote:
...
I'm being blunt, but, honestly, I run a business on custom software
I've written and I can do it because I learned from those who knew
more
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:33]:
I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my
programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the
programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I will be
able to modify them someday in the future.
Sebastian Günther wrote:
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
and of cause, I
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
and of cause, I losed my desktop, is
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohentzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
reach it? I removed the 2
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:11 PM,
thveillon.debianthveillon.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sebastian Günther wrote:
* 明�X (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 03:18]:
I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
2009/6/22 Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de:
* 明覺 (shi.min...@gmail.com) [22.06.09 05:33]:
I'm a junior programmer, and I plan to use only c/c++ as my
programming languages, and I don't like python or perl, I hope all the
programs in my own system are written only in c/c++ so that I
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl?
Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser
extent.
could you help recommend some distributions that do not need perl or
python? thanks
What's your
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:45:46PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
yes, currently, I'm almost a one programming language only people, I
can accept the existence of other languages, but I think they should
be optional, not necessory!
Such an attitude won't get you very far in a Linux ecosphere.
If you're
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Tzafrir Cohentzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:20PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
So does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl?
Python? Python is not a dependency. perl-base is. perl is, to a lesser
extent.
gnome depends on python,
On Mon Jun 22, 2009 at 18:02:28 +0800, ?...@k4 wrote:
no problem with perl, I just want to keep my system simple so that I
will be able to modify them someday in the future, without learning
any other programming languages.
You will not be able to run a Debian desktop system without Perl.
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