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Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog * Drop

Re: xsesssion-errors

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca writes: I keep seeing references to NVidia in my .xsesssion-errors file. I (firefox:2707): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The

/var/log/faillog

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Hi, how come that failed logins aren't recorded in /var/log/faillog? The file exists and is from July this year. When I run faillog -a, it lists entries like: lee 00 01/01/70 01:00:00 +0100 There have been failed logins, though, and logging them is enabled in /etc

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Joe j...@jretrading.com writes: On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote

Re: xsesssion-errors

2012-09-01 Thread lee
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 09/01/2012 03:54 AM, lee wrote: Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca writes: I keep seeing references to NVidia in my .xsesssion-errors file. I (firefox:2707): atk-bridge-WARNING **: Could not locate registry Failed to open VDPAU backend

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Dom to...@rpdom.net writes: On 01/09/12 14:35, lee wrote: Joej...@jretrading.com writes: On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200 leel...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-01 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog (...) According to aptitude, alsa-base depends on linux-sound-base

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-02 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:28:23, lee wrote: , | lee@yun:~$ aptitude show alsa-base | Paket: alsa-base | Zustand: Installiert | Automatisch installiert: nein | Version: 1.0.23+dfsg-4 At least the .at. mirror has 1.0.25+2+nmu2 for wheezy

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-02 Thread lee
Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes: On 9/2/2012 12:44 AM, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-02 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote: See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and downgrade 148 packages. I picked a few of the to-be-downgraded packages and all of them were from sid. Do you want to run sid

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-02 Thread lee
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 09/02/2012 06:24 AM, lee wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote: See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and downgrade 148 packages. I picked a few

Re: e2fsck errror: Error reading block (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)

2012-09-02 Thread lee
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: When I ran $sudo e2fsck -c -c -f -v /dev/sdb7 I am getting a lot of errors such as Error reading block 18022401 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading inode and block bitmaps. Ignore errory?

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-02 Thread lee
you had configure apt repositories priorities properly. What's wrong with it? Aptitude installs packages from testing by default and installs packages from unstable or experimental when I tell it to, which is what I want. , | lee@yun:~$ LANG=C apt-cache policy (...) What the hell is all

Re: Why is Nautilus using 38% CPU?

2012-09-02 Thread lee
Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes: I am going to temporarily retreat to another window manager and desktop for a while, and see if this bug gets fixed. Fvwm-crystal is awesome. You have icons on the desktop background? The windows cover them all the time, what's the point of that? --

Re: can rsync correct dates?

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Dr Beco r...@beco.cc writes: Guys, For some reason, my restoration from a backup (using rsync) to notebook got me all my files dated 13/08/12, indistinctly. After some days I realized the problem. Now I need to rsync again from backup to notebook just to correct the dates. But I don't

Re: can rsync correct dates?

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Dr Beco r...@beco.cc writes: On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:10 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: So, how do I compose such a command rsync plus find, to achieve this? You could 1.) create a file with a list of such files with find and use the --exclude-from= of rsync to exclude them

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Du, 02 sep 12, 16:42:30, lee wrote: downgrade. I'm surprised that there are so many packages from unstable installed, though. Yet that will fix itself over time when the packages now in unstable make it into testing, I guess

Re: Why is Nautilus using 38% CPU?

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 09:29:32PM +0200, lee wrote: Mark Allums m...@allums.com writes: I am going to temporarily retreat to another window manager and desktop for a while, and see if this bug gets fixed. Fvwm-crystal is awesome

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:31:02 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Some packages currently installed may be from unstable or experimental because I needed more recent versions of them --- IIRC, the mumble ones are. I would want to keep

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 07:31:02PM +0200, lee wrote: packages from these when needed? And if I removed Debian multimedia, I would miss a lot of packages. You might be suprised. The Debian Multimedia team is constantly improving Debian's

Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: I ran both aumix -q and rexima and neither were able to find the sound card. Is alsamixer able to find devices, or do some show up when you run aplay -l or aplay -L? Is this the only sound card installed? -- Debian testing amd64 -- To

keeping track of software changes (Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base)

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Lu, 03 sep 12, 15:11:55, lee wrote: I wish there was a good way to keep track of all these changes ... The admin would enter why some change was performed, and the package This is your responsibility as the administrator of your system

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Lu, 03 sep 12, 16:22:25, lee wrote: Ok, how do I find out which packages from Debian-MM are actually installed and what their Debian-MM-team replacements are? aptitude search ~S~i~OMultimedia Will show you which packages you have

Re: keeping track of software changes (Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base)

2012-09-03 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Lu, 03 sep 12, 18:57:26, lee wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: This is your responsibility as the administrator of your system. There are various methods to do it, it all depends on preferences. Interesting, which

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:20:35 +0200, lee wrote: In the meantime, I have a working system without having to worry about keeping track of self-installed software and dependency problems that might arise from it. Just don't circumvent the package management

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread lee
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com writes: Hi, Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio? It seems that pulseaudio adds another layer of complexity on top of alsa. If you don't need things that pulseaudio does, you don't need pulseaudio and can just use alsa, which you need in any case. --

Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: Yes, alsamixer finds a sound card as does amix -l and yes it's the only sound card installed. On Mon, 3 Sep 2012, lee wrote: Ok then the card is recognised and probably working. Do you have sound? In that case, I would think it's an issue

Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: a howto got put up on the orca-list email list describing how to install a graphical user environment and have it come up talking and pulse in any of its forms is not part of how to do it, so the claim that pulse adds extra layers of complexity

Re: nvidia CK804 sound card question

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: Yes I have sound. rexima and aumix appear unable to locate any cards even with several different combinations of items parsed from the relevant lspci line. According to [1] (which probably applies), you might want to try something like rexima

no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:06:30PM +0200, lee wrote: Having that said, alsa doesn't fully work in that the microphone input of the on-board sound card is dead ever since audacious did something to it. Pulseaudio won't fix that, and better

Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:31:34AM +0200, lee wrote: When they are only different in version, then what is bad about having packages from Debian-multimedia, and why should I remove them? Read this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes: On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:43:21 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hello lee, problem is not the mic. It used to work before I did something with audacious which gave me a warning that it might not be a good idea --- I don't remember what that was. Since

Re: no input from microphone (Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: This on-board card shows up in lspci as Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio Controller and is recognised fine by alsa. Sound output of that card works

software breaks software (Re: alsa-base breaks linux-sound-base)

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 03:39:59PM +0200, lee wrote: Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: Read this: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ Also, just found this: http://blogs.dailynews.com/click/2012/06/debian

Re: Weird postfix problem when upgrading to Squeeze

2012-09-04 Thread lee
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes: On 9/4/2012 10:58 AM, Pedro Eugênio Rocha wrote: The weirdest thing is that it was working before the upgrade. Anyway, just changing the format solves the problem, but finding where the problem was gave me some headache and some email lost. :-}

Re: e2fsck errror: Error reading block (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)

2012-09-05 Thread lee
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: lee wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: When I ran $sudo e2fsck -c -c -f -v /dev/sdb7 I am getting a lot of errors such as Error reading block 18022401 (Attempt to read block from filesystem

Re: new installation preserving /home partition

2012-09-08 Thread lee
Mauricio Calvao mocal...@gmail.com writes: Hi I currrently have a desktop running old Debian 5 (lenny). I myself installed some programs outside apt management, both because there were no deb packages for them and because I need some more recent versions. It might still be possible to just

Re: new installation preserving /home partition

2012-09-08 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Fri, September 7, 2012 5:33 pm, Mauricio Calvao wrote: to move on to Debian 6 (squeeze) and then possibly even to Debian sid, which I have already used for some time as the aptosid distribution. I would like however to preserve my /home partition. Is that

Re: Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread lee
T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com writes: Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors You might as well use emacs more, there are so many little details one doesn't think about anymore and then misses in others ... -- Debian

Re: Storage server

2012-09-08 Thread lee
Veljko velj...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 09:43:57PM -0400, tdowg1 news wrote: If it was my call, I would go with high-end RAID card as well. But in this case I have to work without them. However, I've heard that software RAID is good for one thing. You can rebuild it in any

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-08 Thread lee
you really see any relevant functionality/feature disappear over the last 15-20 years, or did you see the look and feel significantly change? On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:50:39 +0200, lee wrote: You might as well use emacs more, there are so many little details one doesn't think about anymore

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: But we are talking about Debian. Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. When else would you make such a decision if not before starting the installation? You can't install software without a place to put it. -- Debian testing

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread lee
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com writes: I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of different sort. Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same symptoms)

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Linux on desktop has gone a long way. And I think it is still on a journey. (...) This is usually a delusion: is not that windows or linux is more or less easy (now or then) but how many

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Sun, September 9, 2012 5:18 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: But we are talking about Debian. Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. When else would you make such a decision if not before starting

Re: defoma and its font path

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: TrueType fonts can be simply copied/pasted into one of the available font path folders and that should be all. It isn't that simple. With what you can get from dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, the fonts don't look too great and they look really awful in

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: My problem has been, for quite some number of years now, of not just considering my own requirements. I tend to think a little more (w)holistically, because if the context isn't advanced, any appearance of personal advancement is no more than illusion. So if

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes: Linux RAID is great in the right hands when used for appropriate workloads. Too many people are using it who should not be, and giving it a bad rap due to no fault of the software. Hm, interesting, so what would you say we should use it for and

Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Veljko velj...@gmail.com writes: I didn't till 30 minutes ago. :) I just installed it for exercise if nothing else. Had a problem with booting. Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda Executing 'grub-intall /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error. After creating 1MB partition at the beginning

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:20:30 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Linux on desktop has gone a long way. And I think it is still on a journey. (...) This is usually

Re: defoma and its font path

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:59:11 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: TrueType fonts can be simply copied/pasted into one of the available font path folders and that should be all. It isn't that simple. It is for the majority

Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-10 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 02:11:33AM -0400, Doug wrote: Artha: deprecate: express strong disapproval of; deplore You can disapprove of the behaviour, but the behaviour is disapproved, is not the same as the behaviour is deprecated

Re: Installation

2012-09-10 Thread lee
David Cho-Lerat david.le...@asterion.fr writes: For more than a decade now you need a working computer to install an operating system on another one so that you can acquire information and additional software as needed. Why isn't that included in the installer? Just boot from the installation

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Lu, 10 sep 12, 21:06:33, lee wrote: David Cho-Lerat david.le...@asterion.fr writes: that's called Debian Live : http://live.debian.net/ When it already exists, why isn't that part of the installer? It's a live system, how could

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: I personally use non-free softwares (well... flash, wifi drivers and opera, for the two firsts I do not really have choice) but I know that Debian's way is not really to provide such tools. Ubuntu does it. You and I might know this. I only

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:06:33PM +0200, lee wrote: And where's the 40GB (or whatever size it is) Blueray image that has all the packages plus all the stuff from non-free plus a life system plus lots of documentation on it so that I can

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Mon, September 10, 2012 5:10 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Sun, September 9, 2012 5:18 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: But we are talking about Debian. Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during

Re: Storage server

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Veljko velj...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 07:47:52PM +0200, lee wrote: Did you get it to actually install on the RAID and to boot from that? Last time I tried with a RAID-1, it didn't work. It's ridiculously difficult to get it set up so that everything is on software raid

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: Agreed. But the person who wants to install Debian is not the average end/home user. Exactly, but that's the majority market and I don't see anything wrong woth aiming for that. Now that is

deprecated (Re: What Version To Install On iMac?)

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:55:21PM +0200, lee wrote: Disapproved is as much an adjective as deprecated. Not when I went to school. English is not your native language? No, it isn't. Do you mean disapprove or really disapproved

Re: Satellite P870 issues

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Julian De Marchi jul...@jdcomputers.com.au writes: My major issue is the video devices. They are apparently a switchable type, so you have the choice to use either the intel or nvidia GPUs. You might be out of luck depending on what hardware is in your laptop. Google for muxless; if your

Re: [OT] web hosting server files

2012-09-11 Thread lee
lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: All things are suggested to put it into the folder of the /home/lina/public_html I am not clear how to password protect my file/folder. BTW, which tricks people can be used to get the other files under /home/lina/public_html ? You realise that this

Re: Installation

2012-09-11 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:54:12 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) This is usually a delusion: is not that windows or linux is more or less easy (now or then) but how many people in your circle can solve/cope a problem with your

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Alex Robbins alexdotrobb...@gmail.com writes: That said, I started with screen and then switched to tmux, which is an actively developed rewrite of screen (and is BSD licensed). It has many technical and objective improvements over screen, and, additionally, it has proven a much better

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:28:18 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: In my planet, yes. Everybody I know uses Windows (starting from my mother and ending with my company partners). That someone uses it doesn't mean that they are able

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Ma, 11 sep 12, 14:24:22, lee wrote: The question is not what is part of what, the question is what is needed. Since you need a working computer to install an OS on a computer, why can't we have that with an installation media so we can

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find my primary use of the GUI is email, the web apps I have to support, and Guayadeque for my

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes: Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with. I just happened to clap my eyes on this one by accident -and liked it. Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap you can get. I don't have any experience

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Tue, September 11, 2012 7:43 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: Agreed. But the person who wants to install Debian is not the average end/home user. Exactly, but that's

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: I wouldn't classify partitioning as a 'tiny little detail.' It is one of the many tiny little steps the installer does. Neither would the average end user. What are you trying to say? Along with the file system, it's the basis of any system. We could argue

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: There is a stage where the installer asks for contrib and non-free apt list inclusions. It would probably be best to incorporate this as a default in a newbie install. Perhaps a note to explain this could be incorporated - 'If you are new to open source

Re: Storage server

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Denis Witt denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de writes: Anyway, I have some comparison data. I have a backup server that saves data from 5 other server at our hosting company using rsnapshot. The backups are kept for 14 days. rsnapshot: bup: obnam: rdiff-backup: How about amanda? It

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net writes: opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present This makes me think that you need another driver for the graphics card which supports the required extension. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Satellite P870 issues

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 06:48:33PM +0200, lee wrote: Julian De Marchi jul...@jdcomputers.com.au writes: My major issue is the video devices. They are apparently a switchable type, so you have the choice to use either the intel or nvidia

Re: Installation

2012-09-12 Thread lee
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 09/12/2012 09:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 sep 12, 08:57:37, The Wanderer wrote: Admittedly, not presenting the user with such a prompt at all would be less off-putting than either, but we may not be able to avoid that unless we

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:10:31 +0200, lee wrote: It can be ridiculously difficult to install Debian. (...) When it comes to an OS, installation process can be considered irrelevant. The real problems starts afterwards. It is irrelevant when you can't

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes: Hi. ons, 12 09 2012 kl. 03:01 +0200, skrev lee: Get an MSI board if you can. Asus sucks and Gigabyte is the worst crap you can get. I don't have any experience with Asrock, though. Well, it ended up with an ASRock. Let us know how it turns out in about

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 12 sep 12, 02:28:48, lee wrote: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: You can press (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 to get a console :p (SCNR) Wasn't that F3? And then you try to start a web browser and it says command not found

Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net writes: On Wednesday 12 September 2012 14:17:45 lee wrote: Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net writes: opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present This makes me think that you need another driver for the graphics card which

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Alex Robbins alexdotrobb...@gmail.com writes: I think development has stopped -- upstream. Which would be a pity, it's really good software ... Whatever works for you, I suppose, but in my personal experience, tmux has been much better (It is also highly customizable. I had to play with it

Re: deprecated (Re: What Version To Install On iMac?)

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 05:26:09PM +0200, lee wrote: The administrator installed disapproved software. Since then, many No. That would have got you a smack over the hand with a ruler. :) Then how do you say that? users have had trouble

Re: Install Debian on a UEFI-motherboard ?

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org writes: On 12/09/12 02:01, lee wrote: Tom Rausner t...@rausner.dk writes: Generally I would agree and I was looking at MSI and ASUS to start with. I just happened to clap my eyes on this one by accident -and liked it. Get an MSI board if you can

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Wed, September 12, 2012 8:45 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Tue, September 11, 2012 7:43 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Mon, September 10, 2012 8:19 am, Chris Bannister wrote: Agreed. But the person who wants

Re: Satellite P870 issues - Video + ethernet [SOLVED]

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Julian DeMarchi jul...@jdcomputers.com.au writes: On 09/13/2012 04:12 AM, lee wrote: Everything works fine with the intel card unless you want to play games. Its performance for that is pathetic at best, though even that works. Other than that, it's only a pointer for the OP so he has

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Wed, September 12, 2012 8:40 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: I wouldn't classify partitioning as a 'tiny little detail.' It is one of the many tiny little steps the installer does. Agreed. Many of the steps in the installer are tiny

Re: Storage server

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Veljko velj...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 06:49:22PM +0200, lee wrote: Denis Witt denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de writes: Anyway, I have some comparison data. I have a backup server that saves data from 5 other server at our hosting company using rsnapshot

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Jo, 13 sep 12, 04:16:07, Weaver wrote: This is not about you and me, or any debian-user subscriber AFAICT. It's about the type of users that regard the computer as a tool and have no desire to learn about its workings. After all, one can

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Thu, September 13, 2012 12:29 am, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 sep 12, 17:53:41, Weaver wrote: I would be an advocate of at least a separate /home partition in the 'Newbie Install'. How big? IMVHO a separate /home partition[1] makes sense now[2] only

Re: exim, mailname and aliases

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Frank Van Damme frank.vanda...@gmail.com writes: Hello list, I'm into a slight struggle with my mail servers. They are satellite systems (no local mail, everything goes to a smarthost). I figured out that by changing the mailname to generaldomain.com instead of

networking with virtual machine

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Hi, since I'm not making any progress: I want to set up a VM (running testing) that can be reachable from the outside over the network. I've done that 2 years or so ago and I forgot how to do the networking setup, and network configuration has changed in the meantime. I need to somehow set up

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Thu, September 13, 2012 4:20 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 04:10 -0700, Weaver wrote: If you find, in time, that you are running out of drive space, instaal a bigger drive, install the / and swap and again, allocate the rest as /home and

Re: Installation

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Thu, September 13, 2012 9:58 am, lee wrote: Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: snip You said you want the discussion centred around what happens when a clueless user uses the Debian installer and is presented with a question about partitioning. Now

Re: networking with virtual machine

2012-09-13 Thread lee
Rob Owens row...@ptd.net writes: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:32:40PM +0200, lee wrote: Hi, since I'm not making any progress: I want to set up a VM (running testing) that can be reachable from the outside over the network. I've done that 2 years or so ago and I forgot how to do

Re: Installation

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Thu, September 13, 2012 12:04 pm, lee wrote: What do you do, or what is the installer supposed to do, when you have several disks? Make a RAID-0 out of them and do as you describe? Make a RAID-1 or RAID-10 or RAID-5? Only use one disk? Put

Re: Installation

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: The installer is quite specific in regard to where it should place the installation. Nobody is going to hose any other installed OS unless the simply refuse to read. If that's the case they need to lose the current installation to help them to wake up a

Re: Installation

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Weaver wea...@riseup.net writes: On Thu, September 13, 2012 5:26 pm, lee wrote: You cannot determine the size of the /home partition by the size of another storage device that may be installed or not, now or in the future. GParted can. , | lee@yun:~$ apt-cache show gparted | Package

Re: Kernel throwing exception once in a while

2012-09-14 Thread lee
krish das.srikris...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I wasn't really sure which package to report this bug against, so writing it to the lists. This is happening randomly almost everyday. Not able to figure out why It reminds me of NFS freezing when using cheap network cards. -- Debian testing

Re: networking with virtual machine

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Chris Davies chris-use...@roaima.co.uk writes: lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: That seems to suggest using a bridge[1], and I find that very confusing. I understand that apparently I am supposed to replace my currently used eth1 by a bride device which uses eth1 and to which I could add

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