Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: > I'm having problems problems with: > font and icon sizes Look in the configuration for "DefaultFont", "WindowFont", "Style.*Font", "IconFont", "Style.*IconFont". Icon size might be "Style .* Iconsize". I don't have that one in my configuration. Warning: The default

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 01:46 PM, John Hasler wrote: See and The basic difference, though, is that a desktop environment tries to enforce uniformity and coordinated aesthetics on all applications in the Mic

Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
You can map it all to two dimensions. I can think of my system as consisting a square array of 4 workspaces each subdivided into 16 panes so that becomes an 8x8 array of panes. I find the 3D view more convenient, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > So the visible window title might be a good first guess. That usually works, but be careful. Some ornery applications ignore Unix and X11 conventions and resources and/or retitle themselves. Firefox is a prime example. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

[ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
If you think that subject line is weird U B right It was intentional ;/ I just closed tooo many windows. Someone had just referred me to two Wikipedia articles with 2-dimensional pictorial representations of a multi-dimensional problem. Any one familiar with "Flatland"

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Hasler wrote: > An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. Ahum ... i see this line in my configuration Style "*" StickyIcon and man fvwm says StickyIcon makes the window sticky when it's iconified. It de-iconifies on top the active desktop. SlipperyI

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > It seems you are looking for non-sticky icons. I'm not sure whether i > could talk fvwm2 into doing that. An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm getting the impression that: > 1. a window manager can manage several desktops. > 2. each desktop may or may not have an associated desktop environment. Be careful with the term "desktop". It is used in several differing meanings. From "screenful of stuff" to "hi

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 13:22:52 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >Google for "fvwm2rc". It is rewarding to add the word "examples". > > > >My experience with installing Debian package fvwm2 two years ago would > >have been much worse if i did not have

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
See and The basic difference, though, is that a desktop environment tries to enforce uniformity and coordinated aesthetics on all applications in the Microsoft and Apple way while a window manager m

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote:

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > Fvwm is software for people who don't want look-and-feel to change for > the mere reason that another decade went by. One has to customize it > by editing the configuration file, not by drag-and-drop. It is best > used with a zillion xterm windows and a few inavoidable GUI

fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 09:01:07 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: >>> Is there a recommended site that gives >>> a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >>> >>> does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote: >> is what the

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 09:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:42 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. A sketchy

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:17 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA As long as we are talking about icons

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett wrote: > I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. > > What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of > applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. I start it up four desks (similar, I think, to MATE

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA As long as we are talking about icons on the desktop (instead of, for example, men

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 05:11 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 04:25 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: [snip summary of] https://www

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> Both are good descriptions of what I want. >> If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that >> will accomplish my goal? >> TIA >> > > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: > > The classic Linux

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: The classic Linux desktop -- a workspace, a panel, and a