Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: > I'm having problems problems with: > font and icon sizes Look in the configuration for "DefaultFont", "WindowFont", "Style.*Font", "IconFont", "Style.*IconFont". Icon size might be "Style .* Iconsize". I don't have that one in my configuration. Warning: The

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 01:46 PM, John Hasler wrote: See and The basic difference, though, is that a desktop environment tries to enforce uniformity and coordinated aesthetics on all applications in the

Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
You can map it all to two dimensions. I can think of my system as consisting a square array of 4 workspaces each subdivided into 16 panes so that becomes an 8x8 array of panes. I find the 3D view more convenient, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > So the visible window title might be a good first guess. That usually works, but be careful. Some ornery applications ignore Unix and X11 conventions and resources and/or retitle themselves. Firefox is a prime example. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI

[ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
If you think that subject line is weird U B right It was intentional ;/ I just closed tooo many windows. Someone had just referred me to two Wikipedia articles with 2-dimensional pictorial representations of a multi-dimensional problem. Any one familiar with "Flatland"

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Hasler wrote: > An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. Ahum ... i see this line in my configuration Style "*" StickyIcon and man fvwm says StickyIcon makes the window sticky when it's iconified. It de-iconifies on top the active desktop.

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > It seems you are looking for non-sticky icons. I'm not sure whether i > could talk fvwm2 into doing that. An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm getting the impression that: > 1. a window manager can manage several desktops. > 2. each desktop may or may not have an associated desktop environment. Be careful with the term "desktop". It is used in several differing meanings. From "screenful of stuff" to

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 13:22:52 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >Google for "fvwm2rc". It is rewarding to add the word "examples". > > > >My experience with installing Debian package fvwm2 two years ago would > >have been much worse if i did not

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
See and The basic difference, though, is that a desktop environment tries to enforce uniformity and coordinated aesthetics on all applications in the Microsoft and Apple way while a window manager

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 10:13 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote:

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Schmitt writes: > Fvwm is software for people who don't want look-and-feel to change for > the mere reason that another decade went by. One has to customize it > by editing the configuration file, not by drag-and-drop. It is best > used with a zillion xterm windows and a few inavoidable

fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 09:01:07 (-0600), John Hasler wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to

Re: [likely out of luck]

2018-02-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlet wrote: >>> Is there a recommended site that gives >>> a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >>> >>> does for KDE}? John Hasler wrote: >> is what

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 09:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett writes: A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what >

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:42 AM, John Hasler wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. A

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 07:17 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA As long as we are talking about

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett wrote: > I have no problem with different applications being open in each workspace. > > What I would like would be to be able to do is have differing sets of > applications available in each workspace. This can be done with FVWM. I start it up four desks (similar, I think, to

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 16, 2018 10:33:01 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA As long as we are talking about icons on the desktop (instead of, for example,

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 05:11 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/17/2018 04:25 AM, Curt wrote: On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: Both are good descriptions of what I want. If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that will accomplish my goal? TIA Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: [snip

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/17/18, Curt wrote: > On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> Both are good descriptions of what I want. >> If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that >> will accomplish my goal? >> TIA >> > > Maybe KDE "activities" matches

Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively

2018-02-17 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Both are good descriptions of what I want. > If it cannot be done in MATE, is there another desktop or approach that > will accomplish my goal? > TIA > Maybe KDE "activities" matches your desires: The classic Linux desktop -- a