RE: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Jim Priest
http://www.snort.org/ Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software I have been asked to research Intrusion Detection Software. Anyone have any suggestions? Sharyn

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Snort... darrell Sharyn Schmidt writes: I have been asked to research Intrusion Detection Software. I have done a Google search, but most of what I see is an actual appliance. All I am looking for is software that will notify me when something suspicious attempts to hit our network.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] Continuous statistical filter updates?

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Hayer
thread originally from imal list Scott - others regarding SpamAssassin In your opinion: Correct. That's why for statistical filtering to be effective, you need to have very small groups that receive similar E-mails. Ideally, each user will have their own statistical database. If not,

[Declude.JunkMail] Option Request

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Johnson
Is it possible that in a Store/Forward scenario that when a WEIGHT20 test is reached to insert a X-Note in the Header, much like we take action with RouteTo or Mailbox? Thanks, Keith --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Michael Jaworski
Title: Message Anyone rig Win version of Snort to work with Declude for dictionary attacks??? To flag an IP with a dictionary attack profile and let Declude or iMail refuse the traffic for a period of time. We have one domain with just 350 e-mail acccounts being pounded daily with

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Option Request

2004-02-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Use the action of WARN. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 8:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

[Declude.JunkMail] Is DRCI Inc. a spamhouse?

2004-02-04 Thread Darin Cox
Anyone know anything about DRCI Inc. (www.drci.us)? I have a hosting customer who signed up with them (without my knowledge) to send out a mailing to a supposedly opt-in list. The testemailslooked pretty suspiciouswith the two-domain pattern (tin*eil*.com and getgre*atstuff*.com ...

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Option Request

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Johnson
John, Can this WARN have a specific custom Header line only applied to this domain? Keith -Original Message- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Option Request

[Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello, what is the better Plattform for Imail / Declude? Windows 2000 oder Windows 2003? Just Imail Declude, Spamcheck, AVG, F-Prot. Alex --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] Continuous statistical filte r updates?

2004-02-04 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
It is more precise to say that Bayesian filters are best suited to individual mailboxes, and on the opposite scale they are not effective when the message base is random. Bayesian filters need to be trained, and for that you need a corpus of messages that is spam and another that is ham. The

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is DRCI Inc. a spamhouse?

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Darin, This company is actually a front for Pexicom which is currently one of the highest volume spammers around. If you reverse DNS query this address and the others around it, you will find the standard Pexicom results where it returns two name servers and then 6 sequentially numbered mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
2000. The newer version is hardly mature, and it appears that just like XP made the 2000 core unstable, 2003 also repeats many of the same mistakes. 2003 is of course fancier, but the apps you are looking to use make little use of what the newer version might provide. Matt Hirthe, Alexander

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Option Request

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Johnson
John, Thanks again, found it in the manual. Thanks for your time. Keith -Original Message- From: Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Option Request John, Can this WARN have a specific custom

[Declude.JunkMail] How to Block overseas domains

2004-02-04 Thread Kyle Fisher
Does any one know how to block overseas domains? Like UK, DE, NL etc Thanks Kyle

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] Continuous statistical filte r updates?

2004-02-04 Thread Nick Hayer
Thanks Andrew - Nick From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] Continuous statistical filte r updates? Date sent: Wed, 4 Feb 2004

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is DRCI Inc. a spamhouse?

2004-02-04 Thread Darin Cox
Thanks, Matt. I had followed the links to see the link to Pexicom and the large IP blocks. Hadn't checked Senderbase yet, though. Also, thanks for the insight into SBL. I guessa flip side of the question might be...are there any legit, truly opt-in,commercial bulkmailers out there? You

[Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom?

2004-02-04 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi; Should this not have triggered Mailfrom.. look at the email used: X-Note: SMTP Sender: ben.@aol.com Kami == Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:54:02 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Carmelita Hipolito[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom?

2004-02-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Should this not have triggered Mailfrom.. No. look at the email used: X-Note: SMTP Sender: ben.@aol.com aol.com is a valid domain with an MX record, so it passes the MAILFROM test. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is DRCI Inc. a spamhouse?

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
For every 1 legit company, there are probably 100 illegit ones. DRCI makes no bones about it on their home page: "Data Resource Consulting, (DRC) provides leads, permission based e-mail list rentals and accompanying marketing strategies to both the off-line and online direct marketing

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to Block overseas domains

2004-02-04 Thread Markus Gufler
Please don't forget .it domains. So I can't write or replyanymore to anyone into your education center. My opinion: Never block for a single test result With Declude Junkmail Pro you can create a filter file and add lines like COUNTRIES5CONTAINSit This will add 5 points to any message

[Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Anderson
Ok, I'm running IIS 5.0 on my imail server. I've written a program to read the ldap and create a ldif file. I put the ldif file (xxx.ldif)in a sub directory on the web server and when I put a link to it, it displays it directly in the browser. I want it to download, not display as text.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Kevin Bilbee
In internet explorer right click your link and choose "Save Target As" Kevin Bilbee -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug AndersonSent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:06 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Anderson
That's what I'm trying to get away from. Actually have it pop up to open or download. my users have problems understanding right click. Plus I'm rewriting it so that have to enter username and password to get to the link. - Original Message - From: Kevin Bilbee To: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Change the MIME type in IIS to something that isn't text or otherwise displayable in the browser window. I would guess that choosing an application type would be best, and on your own system, make sure that you don't set up something like a text application to automatically open the extension.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Omar K.
Title: Message Mess around with the mime maps for your IIS server, define that file extension as anything other than clear-text, I think that will tell the browser to treat it as an attachment and not open it up in the browser. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Doug- This sounds like it could be solved by setting up a customMIME type for .ldif files.If a MIME type is not prsent, the browser resports to plain text. I don't have a clue what you would change it to, however. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom?

2004-02-04 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Scott: Thanks ... A while back I was suggesting a simple test that can at least validate the format of the sender email. This is a perfect example.. This email is not valid and although it failed a lot of other tests but it should also be easy to add more weight to wrong addresses. Of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Kevin Bilbee
That is default behavior for Internet Explorer. To display a text file. You could zip it on the server side so when they click the link it asks them to download the zip file. Or if I actually answer your origional post You could add your own mime type for your .ldif. If the browser

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Mark Smith
2003. It's MUCH more secure than 2000 because many services are not enabled by default which is the case in 2000. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom?

2004-02-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Of course if there is an RFC addendum that says ben.@aol.com is a valid email then my argument is totally off base. It's valid but extremely uncommon to have quotes in an address (used for escaping by definition), and periods are also allowed. A legitimate address that ends in a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom?

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Kami, If you start mixing different tests for MAILFROM, then you run the risk of weakening the test. While this was spam, I could see a user making a mistake like this by putting information in the wrong fields. You have Web forms, just take a look at what the typical bonehead AOL user

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Jonathan
I don't think that makes it more secure, I think that means the admin is allowed to be more lazy. With regards to using 2k3 vs 2k as a mail server, I don't really thing security is a huge concern. You should be locking down ntfs on either platform, you shouldnt need any services except the

[Declude.JunkMail] Log Error

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Johnson
I received the following error in the log file and subsequently the email did not ROUTETO although it was listed on the WEIGHT20 line, it went on to the main mailbox of the customer un-routed. Is there any reason for the Error? I checked the log and only had one other instance of this for the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT? Best Plattform?

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Anyone that runs a server that sits on the Internet should go through the various services and shut them down when unnecessary, regardless of whether or not they might present a security issue. Firewalling the unnecessary ports is also a fabulous idea as well as other security measures like

[Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi, everyone- I've seen dictionary attacks before, but this one is impressive! I have a customer who has eight email addresses and some aliases on his single domain. We have an ongoing problem with a distributed dictionary attack again this domain, and I'm talking a serious attack here -

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Log Error

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is IMail handing Declude a file named with an underscore and tilde? This is a locked file according to Ipswitch. Naturally this might be standard for IMail and Declude, but I thought the full and unmodified name/file was used??? Matt Keith Johnson

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Domain Registrar recommendation

2004-02-04 Thread Dan Geiser
Keith, I have been working with BulkRegister for over 18 months and have seen no indication that they support spammers. Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
Dave, I've noticed that on my box with only about 60 domains, there's several distributed dictionary attacks every day. They seem to be controlled from a central location because the order is roughly the same across the different IP addresses they use. Mine have been spaced out and fairly low

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I've seen dictionary attacks before, but this one is impressive! I have a customer who has eight email addresses and some aliases on his single domain. We have an ongoing problem with a distributed dictionary attack again this domain, and I'm talking a serious attack here - over half a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Log Error

2004-02-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is IMail handing Declude a file named with an underscore and tilde? This is a locked file according to Ipswitch. Naturally this might be standard for IMail and Declude, but I thought the full and unmodified name/file was used??? That is normally the case,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Log Error

2004-02-04 Thread R. Scott Perry
I am running 8.05hf1 and the 1.77beta of Declude (no interims). I just needed to give an explanation to one of our customers on this. There isn't an easy explanation. What I can give you is the very technical answer: Declude went to access the (locked) recipient file, but Windows

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Log Error

2004-02-04 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott, Thanks for your aid, it is always appreciated. I passed a similar explanation on to our customer. I'll watch our logs for any patterns. Keith -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off topic - iis, web servers and txt files

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Anderson
Title: Message I tried mime types for the "web site" and that wasn't working. one of the emails mentioned the onlineworkshop...I forgot about setting it for all of IIS. Now it downloads. Thanks for all the help! Soon to be published...ldaplst - an ldap reader / file creator. I'll post it

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
R. Scott Perry wrote: What surprises me is that law enforcement agencies haven't gone after perhaps a few dozen compromised servers, run a packet sniffer, and checked to see what IP(s) are controlling the compromised servers. The reason is probably because these machines are generally

[Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Title: **OT** Intrusion Detection Software I have been asked to research Intrusion Detection Software. I have done a Google search, but most of what I see is an actual appliance. All I am looking for is software that will notify me when something suspicious attempts to hit our network.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:02 AM 2/4/2004, Sharyn Schmidt wrote: I have been asked to research Intrusion Detection Software. I have done a Google search, but most of what I see is an actual appliance. All I am looking for is software that will notify me when something suspicious attempts to hit our network.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Virus] **OT** Intrusion Detection Software

2004-02-04 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Title: Message I can also recommend snort. There is a full windows version put out by Engagesecurity.com The product is called EagleX and is a single install of all needed components for Snort to operate on a Windows platform. For those of you running Snort, please give me what

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Slightly OT: calculating bandwidth

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Anderson
Do you have read access to the router's snmp community? if you doMRTG gives some great stats - Original Message - From: Omar K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Slightly OT: calculating bandwidth Hello

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Dave Doherty
The interesting thing about these messages is that the ones I've seen generally don't have multi-hop trails. They look like a zombie connecting directly to the mail server. The blocklists are great, but at that volume, I can't run Declude on the messages without killing the server. So I seem to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Jason
Try running Black ICE on the server. It does a pretty decent job of auto blocking dictionary attacks. We have it set to close and block a connection after 6 invalid users from an ip in 30 seconds Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Sanford Whiteman
The blocklists are great, but at that volume, I can't run Declude on the messages without killing the server. Why would you ever run Declude on messages for unknown users? Even considering that as an option makes me cringe. --Sandy Sanford

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Matt
My own experience, and what appears to be David's, is that this stuff doesn't generally come in waves from just one machine. Collecting the IP's might be useful for blacklisting at a router level, but the list would be very long. Like Scott said earlier, this probably is just a spammer using

Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Dave Doherty
Hi Sandy- Somebody suggested using SBL or one of the blacklists, I forget which. I'm looking at ways to do that without involving the mail server. -Dave - Original Message - From: Sanford Whiteman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack

2004-02-04 Thread Dave Doherty
That sounds like a great idea, Jason. Do you think it will stand up to this volume? -d - Original Message - From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:09 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Distributed Dictionary Attack Try running Black

[Declude.JunkMail] IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT

2004-02-04 Thread Robert Shubert
I recently turned on the IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT filters to see how they work. They seem to do more harm than good, for instance I weight 10 SPAMCOP since that service works well for me, but these filters lowered the weight so that spamcop (only) spams get through. I do understand that they