RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Sorry, just getting around to reading my 700 or so unread messages. Anyone notice Hotmail put in a few new options a while ago and enabled them for everyone? Click on the options link and choose Personal Profile and scoll to the bottom. You will notice that the two options to 1) Share my email address and 2) Share my other registration information are checked. Craig. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail By OREN ETZIONI of the NY TIMES --- A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail messages, otherwise known as spam. Even though I'm a professor of computer science, I, like so many others, have failed to protect myself from this daily nuisance. So I welcome t --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom | Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | By OREN ETZIONI of the NY TIMES | --- | | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 | hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail | messages, otherwise known as spam. Even though I'm a --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. By this: | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 | hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail | messages, otherwise known as spam. He means A few days ago I created an account on Hotmail that had once existed, but since I just created it, it's a new E-mail account. Unless he was extremely active in trying to receive spam, I can't think of any other way that it could have happened. Or, he may have used his poetic license to count the number of spams he received. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
I always figured since my hotmail profile says I'm male and over 21 that's why it gets about 160 spam mails (that don't fail their spam filters) per week. Don't they do the same thing Juno mail does and pay for the service by selling the address to 'Advertising Partners'? My 17 year old sister in law get no adult spam to her hotmail address at all, and 99% of mine is, that says target marketing to me. I only have the address as a remote test account, to validate mail routing to my domain hosting customers, and rarely even then. If it were not a free mail account then I would say it would be a lot of work to get it listed, but I know there are only two ways to pay for a service, you pay or the advertisers pay. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. By this: | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 | hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail | messages, otherwise known as spam. He means A few days ago I created an account on Hotmail that had once existed, but since I just created it, it's a new E-mail account. Unless he was extremely active in trying to receive spam, I can't think of any other way that it could have happened. Or, he may have used his poetic license to count the number of spams he received. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
I guess that makes sense. We've got a few accounts like that out there - we set them up, forward them into our system for evaluation, and never use them for anything else... but there's a definite 'color' to the content - meaning the spam we get there is skewed to a specifi strange attractor - all based on the marketing. I'm working on formulating a methodology for setting up spamtraps and tuning them for specific kinds of spam - without opening them to any legitimate email. It's harder than it looks, and takes a lot of time - there's just no rushing it... so far anyway. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Charles Frolick | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:01 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | I always figured since my hotmail profile says I'm male and | over 21 that's why it gets about 160 spam mails (that don't | fail their spam filters) per week. Don't they do the same | thing Juno mail does and pay for the service by selling the | address to 'Advertising Partners'? My 17 year old sister in | law get no adult spam to her hotmail address at all, and 99% | of mine is, that says target marketing to me. I only have | the address as a remote test account, to validate mail | routing to my domain hosting customers, and rarely even then. | If it were not a free mail account then I would say it would | be a lot of work to get it listed, but I know there are only | two ways to pay for a service, you pay or the advertisers pay. | | Chuck Frolick | ArgoNet, Inc. | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:38 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | | Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so | quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. | | By this: | | | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within | 24 hours I | | had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail messages, | | otherwise known as spam. | | He means A few days ago I created an account on Hotmail that | had once existed, but since I just created it, it's a new | E-mail account. | | Unless he was extremely active in trying to receive spam, I | can't think of any other way that it could have happened. | Or, he may have used his poetic license to count the number | of spams he received. | -Scott | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
I always thought it would make a lot of sense to have an Internal SpamCop address. An address that we can use in Declude so any e-mail that is sent to that address is automatically added to a blacklist address for background deletion. If such addresses is then easily advertised on a couple of sites that are willing to give you a million dollars or add to your anatomical parts then effectively we can have a preemptive notice easily. Since the address is not used elsewhere there is no way a legitimate email comes to it. This can be a very fast and almost no CPU processing system be called SPAMTrap Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Madscientist Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail I guess that makes sense. We've got a few accounts like that out there - we set them up, forward them into our system for evaluation, and never use them for anything else... but there's a definite 'color' to the content - meaning the spam we get there is skewed to a specifi strange attractor - all based on the marketing. I'm working on formulating a methodology for setting up spamtraps and tuning them for specific kinds of spam - without opening them to any legitimate email. It's harder than it looks, and takes a lot of time - there's just no rushing it... so far anyway. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
An address that we can use in Declude so any e-mail that is sent to that address is automatically added to a blacklist address for background deletion. This is something that we have been considering. A couple of thoughts, though: [1] What do you blacklist? I think that only the IP address of the sender could be safely blacklisted. [2] What happens if someone finds the address and uses it maliciously? [3] The spammer may have already sent a lot of spam before they send to this address. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
The problem with this is that once you subscribe it to anything you've muddied the waters a bit about whether content to that address is spam or not. If your specific use is such that you don't discriminate then you've got a reasonable solution... but for truly pure spam, you need to find ways for the spammers to pick you up - in their typical ways - but without your prompting. That takes time and effort - and occasionally luck. The luckiest you can get is for a dictionary search to hit your spam trap and pump it into one of the millions CDs... Once that happens a few times you'll start getting good traffic that was truly never solicited. Another lucky method is to have the address picked off of a web page when some spammer is trolling... _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:30 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | I always thought it would make a lot of sense to have an | Internal SpamCop address. | | An address that we can use in Declude so any e-mail that is | sent to that address is automatically added to a blacklist | address for background deletion. | | If such addresses is then easily advertised on a couple of | sites that are willing to give you a million dollars or add | to your anatomical parts then effectively we can have a | preemptive notice easily. Since the address is not used | elsewhere there is no way a legitimate email comes to it. | | This can be a very fast and almost no CPU processing system | be called SPAMTrap | | Regards, | Kami | | | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Madscientist | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:10 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | I guess that makes sense. | We've got a few accounts like that out there - we set them | up, forward them into our system for evaluation, and never | use them for anything else... but there's a definite 'color' | to the content - meaning the spam we get there is skewed to a | specifi strange attractor - all based on the marketing. | | I'm working on formulating a methodology for setting up | spamtraps and tuning them for specific kinds of spam - | without opening them to any legitimate email. It's harder | than it looks, and takes a lot of time - there's just no | rushing it... so far anyway. | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Craig, I have two paid hotmail accounts. The one for my 5-year old daughter (it's really a test account for spam-filtering) did not get checked. My other account for Elmer Fudd strangely had a birthyear of 1900 and they were checked. I thought that when I set these up I said no sharing. Does anyone know how old these boxes are? You all might enjoy playing our new anti-s*pam game (see sig). Just launced today. Alexis --- Alexis D. Gutzman, Managing Editor, Reports MarketingSherpa's Knowledge Store http://torturegame4.emailsherpa.com = Play Torture a S^pammer online game - Original Message - From: Craig Gittens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:59 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail Sorry, just getting around to reading my 700 or so unread messages. Anyone notice Hotmail put in a few new options a while ago and enabled them for everyone? Click on the options link and choose Personal Profile and scoll to the bottom. You will notice that the two options to 1) Share my email address and 2) Share my other registration information are checked. Craig. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail By OREN ETZIONI of the NY TIMES --- A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail messages, otherwise known as spam. Even though I'm a professor of computer science, I, like so many others, have failed to protect myself from this daily nuisance. So I welcome t --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
This game subverted the entire office. ;-) _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of | Alexis D. Gutzman | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:48 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | Craig, | | I have two paid hotmail accounts. The one for my 5-year old | daughter (it's really a test account for spam-filtering) did | not get checked. My other account for Elmer Fudd strangely | had a birthyear of 1900 and they were checked. | | I thought that when I set these up I said no sharing. Does | anyone know how old these boxes are? | | You all might enjoy playing our new anti-s*pam game (see | sig). Just launced today. | | Alexis | --- | Alexis D. Gutzman, Managing Editor, Reports | MarketingSherpa's Knowledge Store | http://torturegame4.emailsherpa.com = Play Torture a | S^pammer online game | | - Original Message - | From: Craig Gittens [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:59 AM | Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | Sorry, just getting around to reading my 700 or so unread messages. | Anyone notice Hotmail put in a few new options a while ago | and enabled | them for everyone? Click on the options link and choose Personal | Profile and scoll | to | the bottom. You will notice that the two options to 1) | Share my email | address and 2) Share my other registration information are checked. | | Craig. | | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom | Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:21 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail | | | By OREN ETZIONI of the NY TIMES | --- | | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within | 24 hours I | had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail | messages, otherwise | known | as | spam. Even though I'm a professor of computer science, I, | like so many | others, have failed to protect myself from this daily nuisance. So I | welcome | t | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus | (http://www.declude.com)] | | --- | This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To | unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type | unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at | http://www.mail-archive.com. | | | --- | [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Dear Kami, Tuesday, September 17, 2002, 11:36:09 AM, you wrote: KR Some thoughts ... What I have seen happening to us.. KR [1] What do you blacklist? I think that only the IP address of the KR sender could be safely blacklisted. KR --- If I do IP then it has to be a temp file so lets say for 24 hours KR that IP can not send email. Because we sure don't want to blacklist a KR temporary open relay. These folks do not send email using their servers KR but they always use open relays. Also majority of times That is a sound approach. KR [2] What happens if someone finds the address and uses it maliciously? KR --- how? I don't understand how an email can be used maliciously... KR They can only send email to it and to an address where they have no KR business of sending. If you block based on email then your bound to even if you only do 24 hour blocks block hotmail, yahoo, netscape and eudoramail constantly because a lot of spammers spoof those addresses. So not a sound approach there. KR [3] The spammer may have already sent a lot of spam before they send to KR this address. KR --- TRUE but a great chance also exists that it is the beginning of the KR list or the middle. What I see in the addresses that are sent they KR typically are alphabetically sorted. So may be an address like KR AADoe@... Would put it on top of the list. But regardless it is a first KR attempt. If nothing is gained, I feel nothing is lost either but if it KR is used in their SPAM list then we have gained a lot. I just can't see KR us losing anything. In the game of Pros Cons our loss is a lot less KR than our potential gain. Yes you would have to make sure it's among the first possible hits. / Eje KR -Original Message- KR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry KR Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:45 AM KR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KR Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail An address that we can use in Declude so any e-mail that is sent to that address is automatically added to a blacklist address for background deletion. KR This is something that we have been considering. KR A couple of thoughts, though: KR [1] What do you blacklist? I think that only the IP address of the KR sender KR could be safely blacklisted. KR [2] What happens if someone finds the address and uses it maliciously? KR [3] The spammer may have already sent a lot of spam before they send to KR this address. KR -Scott KR --- KR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus KR (http://www.declude.com)] KR --- KR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To KR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type KR unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at KR http://www.mail-archive.com. KR --- KR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] KR --- KR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To KR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and KR type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found KR at http://www.mail-archive.com. KR --- KR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail
Perhaps this list might be a way to set up test account exchanges?? David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail I always figured since my hotmail profile says I'm male and over 21 that's why it gets about 160 spam mails (that don't fail their spam filters) per week. Don't they do the same thing Juno mail does and pay for the service by selling the address to 'Advertising Partners'? My 17 year old sister in law get no adult spam to her hotmail address at all, and 99% of mine is, that says target marketing to me. I only have the address as a remote test account, to validate mail routing to my domain hosting customers, and rarely even then. If it were not a free mail account then I would say it would be a lot of work to get it listed, but I know there are only two ways to pay for a service, you pay or the advertisers pay. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Fighting the Menace of Unwanted E-Mail Gosh I'd like to know how he made that account and got it spammed so quickly. That knowledge would be quite a tool. By this: | A few days ago I created a new e-mail account, and within 24 | hours I had received over 25 unsolicited commercial e-mail | messages, otherwise known as spam. He means A few days ago I created an account on Hotmail that had once existed, but since I just created it, it's a new E-mail account. Unless he was extremely active in trying to receive spam, I can't think of any other way that it could have happened. Or, he may have used his poetic license to count the number of spams he received. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.