[libreoffice-design] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Windows look

Hi Astron, On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Stefan Knorr wrote: > Hi all, > > hrm... this voting is quite clear: currently it is at 26:11:2 > (opaque:partly opaque:transparent). > There are two factors that work against the transparency: > * Mirek didn't pick the ideal screenshot to illustrate tr

Re: [libreoffice-design] User research, Icon-Testing et al.

Hi Björn, I'm excited to try out UserWeave. However, please do consider this a trial. It seems a bit premature to advertise LibreOffice as an active user. And since I had to sign off on the Terms of Agreement, I'd like to point out its inadequacies so that you may correct them (smaller grammar mis

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

Hi everyone, I'm sorry, but I won't be able to make it for today's IRC chat, which will take place as usual. As for topics: - Astron could summarize the discussion on the ESC call and give an icon update - You should look at submitted templates [1], start screens [2], and splash screens [3], go thr

Re: [libreoffice-design] Are you okay with those new default styles?

Hi Alex, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Alexander Wilms wrote: > Hi everyone, > > would anyone object against Cedric including this as new default (empty) > template: > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Avantgarde.ott > Based on a quick review, I found a number of problems with i

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design ethos

Hi everyone, On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Björn, Mirek, all! > > Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2012, 15:34 +0200 schrieb Björn Balazs: > > Hi all, > > > > thanks for picking up this really important discussion. Christoph I > think the > > examples you gave are really gre

[libreoffice-design] File viewer whiteboard

I know that it's long, long overdue, but I finally took the time to do a tentative design for the file viewer. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Viewer#Tentative_Design The background is black to put the focus on the content (as is common for full-screen viewers). The vi

[libreoffice-design] Start Center

Hi everyone, Along with a new splash screen and About dialog, we'd like to implement a new design for the start center. If you're feeling creative, submit a design at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Start_Center

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design ethos

more "my-point-of-view" ... > > Am Sonntag, den 10.06.2012, 19:53 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: > > Hi Christoph, > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Christoph Noack >wrote: > > > > > Hi Björn, hi Mirek! > > > > > > I had to make up m

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design ethos

12, 20:45 +0200 schrieb Björn Balazs: > > Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2012, 19:46:09 schrieb Mirek M.: > [...] > > "Developers encountering these keywords likely won't have any additional > > interface design training, so it is important that each heuristic is very > > clea

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Whiteboard Proposal "Comments Ruler Control"

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Mirek, all! > > Am Samstag, den 09.06.2012, 00:39 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Christoph Noack >wrote: > > > Am Freitag, den 08.06.2012, 23:33 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: > >

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Whiteboard Proposal "Comments Ruler Control"

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi Mirek, hi all! > > Am Freitag, den 08.06.2012, 23:33 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Christoph Noack >wrote: > ... > > > there has been some nice ruler rework recently [1], and

Re: [libreoffice-design] New Whiteboard Proposal "Comments Ruler Control"

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: > Hi everybody, > > there has been some nice ruler rework recently [1], and so I got a > friendly ping about what had happened to the so called "Comments Ruler > Control" I've proposed years ago when working on the Writer notes [2]. > > I've s

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Looking for a new splash screen

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Mike Linksvayer wrote: > Mirek M. gmail.com> writes: > > (Rather than spending time coding this, developers should be spending > time > > making LibO start faster so it doesn't need a splash.) > > 3.6 is there a

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Looking for a new splash screen

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Kévin PEIGNOT wrote: > Hi all > > I updated the Wiki Page to add a proposal : A color coded splash screen > (based on "Minty" proposal by Astron) : > - Progress bar use the color of the launched app: > - Blue progress bar for Writer > - Red progress

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design ethos

Hi Björn, On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Björn Balazs wrote: > Hi Mirek, > > Am Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2012, 19:46:09 schrieb Mirek M.: > > Hi Björn, > > The principles I put on the whiteboard was just me spitballing. The > initial > > idea was that the community would

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: LibreOffice Design: Windows look

Hi Shady, Thanks for submitting a design. On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Shady wrote: > Sorry for the thickness of LO Clac sheet, I didn't mean to make it as so > but > that's the best I counld do, also I used the previous Windows look Example > so I didn't consider the Aero effect, but that's

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:48 AM, nick rundy wrote: > > hey, is this irc chat open to users as well? or just programmers? > > if open to users, what server and channel do i find it at? > > They're open to everyone, though we mainly discuss design issues, so there probably won't be many interested p

Re: [libreoffice-design] Play with the Windows look

Hi Astron, On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) < heinzless...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Mirek, Kendy > > > I visited Kendy yesterday, he showed me a build of LibreOffice with Aero > > glass menus, and he told me that it's possible to make a theme > specifically > > for Windows

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design ethos

Hi Björn, The principles I put on the whiteboard was just me spitballing. The initial idea was that the community would suggest design principles and we'd refine them until we got something well-defined and something that we could all agree on. The new proposal is to take Mozilla's design principle

[libreoffice-design] Get rid of Contests

Hi everyone, I'd like to propose to get rid of contests and tweak the workflow of whiteboards to be able to handle projects in which we pick several designs instead of just one. Basically, the workflow would be the same -- we'd look at the problems with each submission, eliminate those that don't c

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) < heinzless...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi Mirek, > > I wouldn't mind doing it on Sunday, either. So, unless anyone else > really wants to come to the Saturday meeting, ... let's do it on > Sunday. > Great! Sunday, 16:00 UTC it is, then. I'll

[libreoffice-design] Design ethos

Hi everyone, Could we agree to use the Firefox UX principles [1] as the basis for our design ethos? I'd like to get this approved on the upcoming IRC chat. If you have any issues with it, please speak up. [1] http://uxmag.com/articles/quantifying-usability -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

Hi everyone, This week's IRC chat is, as always, scheduled for Saturday, 16:00 UTC. Unfortunately, unless it suits the majority of the active members of the design team, I won't be able to attend this week's IRC chat. If, on the other hand, it would suit anyone (especially Astron and Alex) to move

Re: [libreoffice-design] "Document Saved" indicator

2012/6/3 Jean-Francois Nifenecker > Le 31/05/2012 21:29, Kohei Yoshida a écrit : > > >> There is another reason for that. Document not only store its content >> but also view properties, but a change in the view properties doesn't >> trigger a document modified status. Here, view properties inc

[libreoffice-design] About dialog whiteboard

Submit your proposals for the About dialog at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/About_Dialog -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: ht

[libreoffice-design] Chat tomorrow, as always

IRC chat tomorrow on #libreoffice-design at 16:00 UTC, as always. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List

Re: [libreoffice-design] ESC call

Hi Astron, 2012/5/31 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hi Mirek, > > so, because there are precious few slots I attended only part of the > call – thus, for the future: it's not a good idea to have two > designers on the call. > > * Michael determined that we need a new splashscreen, I offered to > help (

Re: [libreoffice-design] "Document Saved" indicator

Hi Christoph, 2012/5/31 Christoph Noack > Hi Alex, all! > > Am Mittwoch, den 30.05.2012, 16:42 +0200 schrieb Alexander Wilms: > > actually, the save icon in the top toolbar should be enough, don't you > > think? It's greyed out if there's nothing to save and makes the > > indicator superfluous.

Re: [libreoffice-design] ESC call

Could you post an update about the call? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarch

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Design for the split controls and tabs

2012/5/30 Jan Holesovsky > > Additionally, I'm wondering whether you could remove the indicator in > > the status bar that shows whether a document has been changed since the > > last time it was saved. Why not just use an asterisk (*) in the window > > border, like gedit, glade etc? > > Apps use

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Design for the split controls and tabs

2012/5/30 Jan Holesovsky > Hi Mirek, > > On 2012-05-29 at 15:36 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: > > > > Ideally if you can give me a mockup (made from a screenshot) showing > how > > > it would look in use + a separate picture of the control itself. > > > Curre

Re: [libreoffice-design] proposal for writer's Insert menu

Hi Michel, 2012/5/29 Michel RENON > Hi, > > As I proposed during my last chat participation, here is another easy > design hack : a modification of Writer's Insert menu. > I find today's insert menu not very usefull : most used commands are > everywhere, beside unused commands. > > Here is my pr

Re: [libreoffice-design] UX@LibreOffice Conference in Berlin?

Hi everyone, 2012/5/29 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > I think it is more than time to actually meet in person. > > So: who is coming to the LibreOffice Conference in Berlin? I might attend. > How do you like the > idea of proposing a usability / ux track for the conference? Who would be > intere

Re: [libreoffice-design] Tentative design Android file viewer

2012/5/29 Alexander Wilms > Hi everyone, > > who would volunteer to take care of the file viever design? It's not clear > whether the GSoC student will start coding the file manager or the viewer, > thus it'd be nice if we could get this done now. > I'll take care of it. -- Unsubscribe instruc

[libreoffice-design] Re: Design for the split controls and tabs

Hi Kendy, 2012/5/29 Jan Holesovsky > Hi Mirek, Astron, all, > > In my quest for nicer LO, I noticed that we should probably improve the > look of the split controls and tabs in Calc: > > > http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/design-list/calc-needed-improvements.png > > By 'split controls' I m

[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress remote: Tentative design

mages is in Inkscape SVG format at https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B_RBf0YVtxzkV3VVdnpuNEZySVU, which you can play with to your heart's pleasure. If you meant something else, could you specify your requirements? > > Thanks! > Muthu Subramanian > > > > On 05/25/2012 07:55 PM, Mir

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New Design for the Design Page

Hi Marc, 2012/5/29 Marc Paré > Hi Mirek > > Le 2012-05-28 10:30, Mirek M. a écrit : > > Hi everyone, >> I know we've had a redesign of the design section of the wiki not too long >> ago, but I'd like to propose a restructuring that would deal with the >&

[libreoffice-design] New Design for the Design Page

Hi everyone, I know we've had a redesign of the design section of the wiki not too long ago, but I'd like to propose a restructuring that would deal with the continually-expanding homepage and make the section easier to browse. Basically, I'd like the Contests and the Playground to get a homepage o

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

2012/5/25 Andrew Pullins > May I officially say. HA. Google+ just realised an update today for > there android app, and it features a Facebook navigation button with the > side bar that shows the sliver of the page that you are currently viewing. > What do you say to that. They must see some

[libreoffice-design] Impress remote: Tentative design

Hi Andrej, hi Muthu, The tentative design for the remote control is just about done: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote#Tentative_Design Please reply with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thanks. :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.

Re: [libreoffice-design] tentative design Impress Remote

Hi everyone, I made some changes and additions to the tentative design (the "Blank screen" view, all the clock views, the Impress remote dialog, etc.) -- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Impress_remote#Tentative_Design. Questions and comments appreciated. I won't able to answe

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: EPS logo

You can download Vegure at http://www.fontspace.com/arro/vegur -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List ar

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

Sorry if my responses made you angry -- I really didn't mean it badly. You might want to read through the Android design guidelines [1] -- it's actually an incredibly well-done guide, perhaps the best, most readable HIG I've ever seen. And I have to say that the "Up" button is genious as well -- th

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat

This week's IRC chat will once again take place on Saturday at 16:00 UTC on the #libreoffice-design channel. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this week, but I'm sure you'll fare well without me. There's a ton of stuff to go through -- especially look at the GSoC projects (it's important to

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

2012/5/24 Andrew Pullins > Mirek, > > > It's not that much different, click home or click menu > home. Wow what a > > > pain that was I had to tap twice. > > > > > > > It is a bother, because you're not used to it. It's as if clicking the > > "Maximize" button on a window in LibreOffice gave you

Re: [libreoffice-design] Play with the Windows look

2012/5/24 Andrew Pullins > Hello, > > so then whats the difference between the whiteboard and the playground? the > fact that there is no dead line? many of the whiteboards do not have > deadlines. > Whiteboards have a specific process, and, yes, they should have deadlines. With the playground,

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

2012/5/23 Andrew Pullins > Mirek, > > > > I knew that you would chime in saying that we should stick to the HIG. > > > Every other app uses that form of navigation because its in the HIG > (that > > > Is Human Interface * Guidelines* not absolutely must be this way > rules). > > > > > > > The HI

[libreoffice-design] Play with the Windows look

Hi everyone, I visited Kendy yesterday, he showed me a build of LibreOffice with Aero glass menus, and he told me that it's possible to make a theme specifically for Windows (or a specific version of Windows) -- we just need to design it. So I introduced a new section to the design wiki: the design

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

2012/5/23 Andrew Pullins > Mirek, > > > > I'd prefer to stick to the HIG in this case. Almost every other Android > app > > uses the form of navigation described in the HIG, and if we don't adhere > to > > it, we'll feel alien on the platform. > > > I knew that you would chime in saying that we s

Re: [libreoffice-design] SIdebar Navigation

Hi Andrew, 2012/5/23 Andrew Pullins > Hello, > > I do not like the home button in the top right of the LibreOffice mobile > app. I know that it is in the Android HIG to do it like this but I feel as > though it is not the most efficient way and think we > should consider another method. IMHO Fac

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Inclusion of Gnome Tango Icons?

Hi Anne, Right now, Stefan Knorr (aka. Astron) is in charge of replacing some of our current Tango icons with newer ones from the Gnome project. He's currently making a list of icons we could replace outright and icons that need to be tweaked, and, until that's done, there's no work to be done on t

Re: [libreoffice-design] Why are we calling for Draw templates?

2012/5/21 Andrew Pullins > Hello, > > Why are we calling for Draw templates? what would a draw template look > like, to me it would just be like in GIMP where you can choose the image > sizes. so the 640x480, 800x600, CD cover, US-Letter, US Legal... so what > are we asking for with this? You c

[libreoffice-design] IRC log

The log for this week's IRC chat is up: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings/2012-05-19 I didn't notice that freenode cut off the first half-hour, so I put up a summary of what we discussed instead. Sorry about that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreof

Re: [libreoffice-design] Will the Logus Symphony functions be merged into LO?

2012/5/19 Christopher Stark > Hi, > > I read that the Symphony source code will be merged into OpenOffice. > > Will LibreOffice also use that code? > Apache Licence to LGPL seems to be possible. > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Contribution Yes, the team plans to use some of that co

Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates and Documents: Tentative Design

2012/5/18 Andrew Pullins > I really like it Mirek. Just thought of this what do you think Bout > marketing folders by dragging file onto another file like on iPhone and now > android(my phone can do that) > It's part of the proposal: "To create a folder, either select a template and, under the "

Re: [libreoffice-design] tentative design Impress Remote

2012/5/18 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > I think we can do much better with this and I want to take the chance to > show > you quickly how a more structured appoach to desgin using artifacts might > help. I only do rough outlines of the artifacts to get the point. > > ### Vison > We will support pres

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat at 16:00 UTC

Tomorrow's IRC chat will happen just as every week -- at 16:00 UTC. I just noticed that I accidentally put 18:00 UTC on the wiki -- sorry for that. I hope nobody got confused. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/m

[libreoffice-design] Templates and Documents: Tentative Design

Hi everyone, I've put up an initial version of the tentative design for templates and documents: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Templates_and_documents_rework#Tentative_Design We had some problems aligning the Android behavior with the desktop behavior. At the end, I chose to make click

Re: [libreoffice-design] Tentative design file manager

2012/5/16 Alexander Wilms > I updated the design accordingly > Could you also update the description below? Please use Android terminology -- the top bar is the action bar; when it shows actions related to the selection, it is called the contextual action bar (CAB). Also, could you put the fold

Re: [libreoffice-design] tentative design Impress Remote

2012/5/16 Alexander Wilms > Hi everyone, > > I updated the whiteboard: https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Design/** > Whiteboards/Impress_remote#**Tentative_Design > Hi Alex, I have some differences of opi

Re: [libreoffice-design] Tentative design file manager

2012/5/16 Alexander Wilms > Hi, > > updated another whiteboard. > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Manager#Tentative_Design > Several issues with it: a) The bottom toolbar doesn't really make sense right now, as it will be impossible to create documents in the file v

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

Hi Björn, 2012/5/14 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > trying to find some answers to the raised questions: > > # Structure (of artifacts) > > In my experience we will need to set-up at least the following artifacts > (in > whichever way we are going to produce them in the end): > > 1. Vision: > > Here

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Inclusion of Gnome Tango Icons?

2012/5/14 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > Am Samstag, 12. Mai 2012, 00:21:29 schrieb Mirek M.: > > Hi everyone, > > I've received a response from Lapo, who seems to be ok with relicensing > the > > icons. He also offered to design any icons we need to avoid fee

[libreoffice-design] Design Ethos

Hi everyone, As our design team gains members and the number of projects we tackle grows, it increasingly seems like we need some basic principles to guide our designs. That's why I'm starting a wiki page for determining our design ethos [1]. The point of it is to find several key points that defin

[libreoffice-design] Workflow for Several Submissions

Hi everyone, Please help me craft a workflow for topics that seek a number of submissions, such as the recently-announced call for templates [1]. Here's what I have so far: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/IdeaWorkflow [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_T

Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: GSoC project [Impress remote]

2012/5/13 Andrew Pullins > Why do we need to design for the ability to use the valium buttons. Won't > it just change slides when the user hits them. Or do we need to design the > option in the settings menu? > Option, yes. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.

[libreoffice-design] Fwd: GSoC project [Impress remote]

tter designs come up, Alex's designs will be used. If better designs come up, they'll be used instead. Here's the message I received from Andrej: -- Forwarded message -- From: Mirek M. Date: 2012/5/12 Subject: Re: GSoC project To: "Andrzej J. R. Hunt"

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC chat at 14:00 GMT

2012/5/12 Jonathan Aquilina > Hey Mirek I dont think I am going to be able to make it for this meeting > :( Due to me just starting my exams and having another 2 on monday and > tuesday. Do you have the logs of last weeks meeting, and will you put this > weeks logs up as well? > Yes https://wiki

[libreoffice-design] IRC chat at 14:00 GMT

Hi everyone, This saturday's IRC chat has been moved up again, so please come at 14:00 GMT. If you can't make it that early, come join at 16:00 GMT -- it's very likely that we'll still be there. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreof

[libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Inclusion of Gnome Tango Icons?

ubject: Re: Gnome Icon Set To: "Mirek M." Cc: Jakub Steiner Hi Marek, I think every icon here is made by Jakub or myself, so thumbs up for relicensing this stuff whatever license LibreOffice needs. Also feel free to ask any custom icon you may need, I'm a LibreOffice user and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Notes from the ESC call

Hi Alex, 2012/5/10 Alexander Wilms > Thanks for giving a heads up. Nice to see so much progress :) > Since feature freeze is in roughly 3 weeks, some of the upcoming > improvements (document themes, templates dialog) won't make it into 3.6, > right? > Document themes aren't being actively worke

[libreoffice-design] Re: Notes from the ESC call

The minutes from the call are on the developer mailing list: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-tt3977648.html BTW, Alex and Astron, I referred you as the people to go to for the Tango icon set, as I feel you two are most involved there. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail

[libreoffice-design] Notes from the ESC call

The Document foundation holds weekly ESC (Engineering Steering Committee) calls, and today happened to be my first time on this call. Here's what's relevant to us: About document themes: One of the ideas for implementing theme functionality without themes actually being included in the ODF standar

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

Hi Bjorn, 2012/5/9 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > just a short additional note - a more detailed answer will follow in the > next > days: > > Please do not mix up user testing user research. > :D funny, I was convinced this whole time that you were talking about user testing oh well... > > RESEARC

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

2012/5/8 Björn Balazs > Hi all, > > thanks for your feedback. And no excuses needed for anything that is beeing > said. I assume everyone (including me) has only the best in mind, so do not > take anything personal... > > I will try to address the major points. > > 1. Made bad experiences with Us

[libreoffice-design] On our GSoC whiteboards

Hi everyone, I've been feeling a bit sick lately and I haven't worked on the whiteboards as much as I'd like to have. That said, we have 4 whiteboards to finish up, all of which are at the "Analyzing Proposals" stage. I've started some basic "Open Problems" sections for each [1] [2] [3] [4]. Please

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design principles

2012/5/6 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hi Mirek, > > > Even an advanced office suite needs to be focused. > > As I specified, I see Writer as a tool to create great-looking documents. > > That doesn't mean it can't export to HTML -- of course it can. An HTML > > document is just as valuable as an ODT d

Re: [libreoffice-design] Redesigning the Design page

2012/5/6 klaus-jürgen weghorn ol > Hi all, > Am 26.04.2012 13:55, schrieb Mirek M.: > > [1] > https://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Design<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design> >> > > Only a short hint: > The "Our current Endeavors" are all U

Re: [libreoffice-design] Design principles

2012/5/6 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hello Mirek, > > great effort to do that! It seems to be based on Android's UI design > principles... amiright? > They weren't really based on any principles. Though I've drawn inspiration from some other companies' design principles, I wanted to craft my own. >

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC

2012/5/6 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hi all, > > sorry for not being there ... exceptional circumstances. I'd be > interested in the full transcript, though... there only seems to be a > part of it available. Does anyone have the full version? > I just put most of it up [1]. A bit is missing, though

[libreoffice-design] Design principles

I thought it was about time to draft some design principles, so I put up a draft on my user page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Mirek2#Design_Principles Tell me what you think. :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffic

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC

2012/5/4 Andrew Pullins > what about Sundays? Only if we feel we need to on Saturday. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfounda

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC

Based on the responses I've received, tomorrow's IRC chat is moving up to 14:00 GMT. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Bold and Italic icons

> > Hi, Mirek > You have a hidden problem: "Use Vegur, LibreOffice's official font, if you > need to." > This means that Bulgaria, Belarus, Russia, Serbia, Ukraine and other > countries that use the Cyrillic alphabet, will be offended, because "Vegur" > does not include their national symbols. Ac

Re: [libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC

Please mention how much earlier you can make it. 14:00 GMT ok? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List ar

Fwd: [libreoffice-design] Just created a them whiteboard

-- Forwarded message -- From: Alexander Wilms Date: 2012/5/3 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] Just created a them whiteboard To: design@global.libreoffice.org Nice to have some input from such a big user group. I agree, themes/styles/color, font schemes are really useful. I think

[libreoffice-design] IRC Chat: GSoC

Since we have 4 GSoC whiteboards to go over this Saturday, I was thinking we could move the chat up an hour or two. Alternatively, we could have two chats -- one on Saturday, one on Sunday. What do you think? Please reply saying whether you will attend this weekend and when you'll have time. Keep i

[libreoffice-design] Re: GSoC: Android GUI

-- Forwarded message -- From: Iain Billett Date: 2012/5/3 Subject: Re: GSoC: Android GUI To: "Mirek M." Cc: Tor Lillqvist On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Mirek M. wrote: > Hi Iain, > I've contacted your mentor about working together with the LibreOf

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

2012/5/3 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > > > To be honest, I don't have a very positive experience with user > research. > > Hooey... out of genuine curiosity: where/how have you collected your > experiences? Some firsthand experience from a few school projects, plus observation based on Mozilla's and

Re: [libreoffice-design] Just created a them whiteboard

Hi everyone, I'm reposting a conversation I had with a user of LibreOffice, someone whose company has hundreds of employees that use LibreOffice. The initial topic was Templates, but what he is actually asking for is themes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mirek M. Date: 201

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

Hi Björn, 2012/5/2 Björn Balazs > Am Montag, 30. April 2012, 23:25:32 schrieb Mirek M.: > > I did contact the mentors of all the GSoC projects with need for design > > privately [1] [2], but I did make the mistake of not reposting the one > with > > Muthu Subramanian, th

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

2012/5/1 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > > I am not writing this to show off - I am writing this in the hopeyou > might be > > interested in the experience I gained over the past years and you might > accept > > my following criticism to be constructive - and not as trolling or > ranting > > around. > >

[libreoffice-design] GSoC: Android GUI

Hi Iain, I've contacted your mentor about working together with the LibreOffice design team on designing the GUI for the LibreOffice viewer for Android [1], but I've neglected to contact you, for which I apologize. Would you be interested in working with us? We already have two whiteboards set up f

[libreoffice-design] GSoC project

Hi Andrej, I'm writing to you on behalf of the LibreOffice design team. I've contacted your mentor about working together on a design for your GSoC project in the assumption that the mentor was the go-to person for the project, but now I've learned that that's not really the case, so I'm belatedly

Re: [libreoffice-design] Think, don't just do - WAS: Impress remote

ote project, publicly. Here is a copy of the conversation: 2012/4/26 Mirek M. > Hi Muthu, > I'm from the LibreOffice Design team. > I see that your "Smartphone remote control for LibreOffice Impress" GSoC > project has been accepted. Would you like to work with us

Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin

2012/4/29 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hi Tor, > > > But is it more politically correct? > > In the open-source context? Maybe, then again, it is a blatant copy of > the Adobe's Myriad font (whose most famous current user is probably > Apple). > > Also, Helvetica has far more copies and some are far b

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PUSHED] Re: [libreoffice-design] Writer background image - contest! :-)

Hi Stefan, everyone, 2012/4/29 Stefan Knorr (Astron) > Hi all, > > I've done a little mock-up of some changes of colour (strictly for > Windows Vista and up, when using Aero or Aero Basic as the theme): > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Mainwindow-win7-mockup.png [1]. > > The icons in

Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin

2012/4/29 Tor Lillqvist > > Vegur, by the way, is not extremely mature yet, > > But is it more politically correct? > It'd be better if we used open-source fonts, if that's what you meant. That doesn't necessarily mean Vegur, though. (Just because it's in our logo doesn't mean it's the best font

[libreoffice-design] File manager for Android

Discuss the Android file manager [1] in this thread. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Manager -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guideline

[libreoffice-design] Android File Viewer

Feel free to discuss the file viewer for Android [1] in this thread. [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/File_Viewer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Po

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