It's a series of chipsets involved
GMA500 ('Poulsbo')
GMA600 ('Oaktrail')
GMA3600 ('Cedartrail')
GMA3650 ('Cedartrail')
E6xx ('Tunnel Creek')
The unaccelerated driver is quite happy with 2D desktops but LLVMpipe and
the paths used by the Gnome bling and compositing seem to hit it a lot
harder.
How could GNOME encourage decent drivers? Have the GNOME foundation ask
the company? Go via Linux Foundation? Maybe some kind of request? Would
throwing money at it help (how much?)?
I am not that sure. The business and politics of graphics controllers is
a good deal bigger and more
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 05:47:30 -0500
Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.net wrote:
The hardware accelerated graphics API that the rest of the world has
depended upon is OpenGL, minus Direct3D for obvious reasons. It's
unfortunate, but if OpenGL isn't supported on these devices, a hardware
GNOME shell should work on any graphics card 5 years or older. We should
have good data backing this up as I know that Fedora has done QA on a
number of hardware to test gnome-shell in order to know what hardware
profiles shell will work on.
Its passably usable (lot of laggy movement) on a
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:50:37 +0100
Raphaël Jacquot sxp...@sxpert.org wrote:
On 21 nov. 2012, at 21:31, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
A classic mode for GNOME Shell could make use of less expensive effects
that could relieve the software rendenrer making the experience a lot nicer
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:26:22 +
Maciej Piechotka uzytkown...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 16:48 +0100, Henrique Ferreiro wrote:
Not sure matching in other languages, including english, is a
good idea. The typical $locale user is searching for a word in
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:39:56 -0400
Havoc Pennington h...@pobox.com wrote:
The XSMP spec is more or less impossible to make sense out of. But to
the extent people have tried, it has not been a useful undertaking.
If someone took XSMP round the back and shot it while adding support for a
better
I started this discussion because I'm getting really frustrated with
the lack of window state preservation on Linux. I understand that this
involves a lot of different pieces of software. I am talking about the
desired end result. I probably do not have a complete understanding of
the various
order they were in. Most applications seem to remember whether or not
they were maximized previously. But all of these features are part of
the individual programs (and extensions in Firefox's case).
It's supposed to be a property of the X session management, including
automatically
On Wed, 16 May 2012 00:05:40 +0800
Justin Wong justin.w...@gmail.com wrote:
Imagine, just imagine one day a desktop environment named the Kernel
Desktop Environment (KDE), would be integrated to linux kernel for better
user experience.
We've got one .. it's called the console. It has an
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:45:33 -0500
Jason Simanek jsima...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I don't know if this is the place to discuss this, but I have a
request concerning text cursor movement as it is controlled via the
arrow keys on the keyboard.
Currently on all Linux desktops that I am aware of
In fact, I think the lack of fine grained ACLs for this sort of thing
is one part of GNOME that work better than projects that try to lock
things down more aggressively.
Locking stuff down means reducing the attack surface (eg getting rid of
shell accounts) and who can write stuff to trusted
If any of the 350+ has their machine compromised, someone could easily
use that to reach shell on master.gnome.org. I don't want that to be
possible.
If you have 350+ users with hosts and some of them were shared wth
kernel.org in the past I'd suggest When or Probably not If
a. rsync
AFAIK the goal was to only maintain it until the very last graphics
chip in use was able to run shell. It's not there as a preference,
it's a fallback mode for unsupported hardware.
Plenty of people see it as a preference, but right now on the hardware
side there are plenty of chipsets without
Someone said, well, if it is my house, I should be able to chose, the
reason that rationale doesn't work is because the GNOME Shell experience
should be designed to be inclusive, so this is really closer to an office
building or an apartment building instead of a private house.
The flaw in
You're assuming the install and the setup is done by a) the same person that
is going to use the computer, which is not the case most of the time and b)
that the person that uses the computer is always the same one.
No.
Not true, some seats have unique users (think of a university lab, or a
There's been a lot of work done to improve GNOME 3 over the last 6
months. A lot of the complaints of GNOME 3.0 have been already
addressed. Why not just do it after (even more!) distros ship GNOME
3.2?
The first one is probably going to shed more light on what should be
asked than anything
A) Make the plugin only tell the downloader what to download and not
to download it from.
You still need a key - even if the https:// authentication for gnome.org
itself to prove the connection is to the correct site.
B) Sign extension dowloads with a gnome.org private key.
A) is
See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657496
I hope we get some hardware that's a bit more advanced than this 1990's
behaviour in the future.
Unlikely. Users like a way to get their system back into sane order.
Another reason a software option to power off is useful - it cleans up
Of course, Linux users run unsandboxed code with arbitary capabilities
every day - applications, for example. So the security question with
GNOME Shell extensions is not how we can do the almost impossible job
of sandboxing them, but how we can build up layers of social, user
interface, and
Gathering feedback does not necessarily require an online user survey.
As stated, for a project which currently targets, among others, users
who do not care what parts of their operating system can be labelled
GNOME a survey is not a very reliable way of gathering feedback.
Have you ever
Any survey that isn't a carefully controlled randomly selected sample of
users doesn't result in learning. It results in data that forms some
You need truely or reasonably random samples for certain kinds of
activities and analysis in particularly quantitative analysis when you
want to
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:05:26 +0100
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:53:46PM +0300, Felipe Contreras wrote:
If you went back to 1991 and wanted a production-quality kernel within a
year, Linux probably wouldn't be your starting point. There'd be a
I do not think you will be able to do very much with the answers to the
questions you ask below. It's going to be a lot of work for data that is not
useful. Let me try to explain.
I thhink there is a better way to do this Felipe should do it without the
Gnome oligarchy and then put the
The answers are so vague that you are not going to be able to follow up on
them. So they are unhappy with GNOME. Then what?
Then at the very least you've got some picture of what is going on and
you can try and trigger discussion about why people are unhappy (or
indeed happy).
Of course,
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:20:53 +0300
Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) zeesha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Felipe Contreras
felipe.contre...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing is ever perfect, but having at least some results is better
than nothing.
Since you have repeated this
What are you actually trying to understand ?
If there are tradeoffs (and consensus that the tradeoff is real) then you
can ask questions where you rate relative importance of features in
various combinations It's often used to weight things like
price/screensize, screensize/battery life, battery
It doesn't tell you much about the environment
Are you using it on
Desktop
Laptop
Netbook
Tablet
and perhaps a question about skill levels/years of computing experience.
That might help understand which user categories want changes. Eg it's
assumed that most of
On Thu, 19 May 2011 17:07:57 +0200
Xavier Claessens xclae...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello ddl,
Looks like it is time to start flames on ddl, so let's start a new one:
W-T-F is that ctr-del to move a file to trash in nautilus??
To encourage your fingers to hit the nearby alt key at the same
The correct use case for any electronic device is power on when using it,
power off when not.
I couldn't agree any more. The default behaviour should be
shut-down/restart.
In the suspend case there are very good reasons for not wanting the user
to think they have powered off and get a
mmap MAP_SHARED also makes dealing with external updating really
interesting because if the file shrinks you need to handle signal
exceptions from touching pages that no longer exist.
Not if the cache is replaced with rename(), no?
If the sequence is
build new cache
Guys, for a sake of a sanity. I've been around gnome since pre 2.0
times. And all times up to now we supposed that OSS is about
democratic process, where programmers are not told buy big enterprise
News to me, and flagship projects like the Linux kernel run on the Linus
is boss model.
The
What about the freedom to choose? At the point where you disallow users to
You can choose. The FSF freedoms are sufficient for that
You can choose to run the old code
You can choose to modify the old code
You can choose to share modifications to the old code
It's completely within your power
lot. I've also seen lots of people running virtualized GNOME desktops as
VMs under Windows in production.
It's used Linux on Linux as well. In particular if your desktop is a
guest you can take it with you on your laptop then put it on a box with a
bit more welly when not travelling.
Alan
It would be like releasing a new car and then telling the buyer that the
tires that are included aren't good enough but that's okay because they are
free to go through the trouble of replacing them right after they take
ownership. Modularity is not a feature; a good feature is a feature.
You
That's not realistic. Distributions won't allow people to choose between
GNOME 2 and 3, which means people will be forced to stick to releases
That depends on the distribution providing they can be parallel
installed, and on what the volunteers involved or staff paid to work on
them want to do.
What do you mean by this? Every time I've tested on nvidia hardware
with the proprietary driver, shell performance has been totally
usable. It's not lightning fast, but I don't think any hardware
change would fix that.
Usable is a rather hard to quantify thing. Not lightning fast to some
Not true! For example, when you assign to the FSF, the papers you sign
contain a number of guarantees. From an old version of the assignment
papers (you should contact the FSF if you are considering using this
language, as it might have been updated):
4. FSF agrees that all distribution
A possible solution is to store paths under your home
directory as relative paths, and when reading, assume
any relative paths are relative to your home directory.
Doing this with each individual application would be
tiresome and error-prone, but it would be easy with
a convenience API like
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:01:54 +0200
Steve Frécinaux nudr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/06/2010 03:00 PM, Ryan Lortie wrote:
hi Vincent,
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:26 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Do you feel okay with the idea of allowing proprietary apps to use our
platform but not GPLv2 apps?
if you want the Mesa software rasterizer to be faster you can start
contributing to Mesa. I'm sure the maintainers will gladly accept
patches.
By the time you've hit the GL layer you've probably thrown away crucial
information needed for many shortcuts.
Doom is also much less generic (as to a
The other approach is when expiring or archiving to move files
from ~/Desktop to an archival location like ~/Documents.
How does moving it work with non aware applications or a shared file
space ? You risk opening a file having it moved, saving it and ending up
with a copy in documents and
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 08:13:14 +0100
Ross Burton r...@burtonini.com wrote:
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 23:57 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
maintained for people without the correct hardware support. As of now,
all intel, amd/ati and nvidia cards sold in the last five years should
I don't believe
maintained for people without the correct hardware support. As of now,
all intel, amd/ati and nvidia cards sold in the last five years should
I don't believe that is correct for any of the listed vendors even on
Linux. On BSD the situation is even more patchy.
Is Gnome dropping support for
everyone asking for a plain text format (or even an XML format) for
*storage* should be forced to get only that on their machines, but
should also be barred from complaining why their boot process takes a
minute instead of 10 seconds. and no: having plain text storage and
adding a binary
- FS are usually implemented very carefully. They tend to be part of
kernel. On the other hand desktop applications are designed much more
'speedy'. Sometimes application hangs (much more frequent then kernel
locks IMHO), sometimes it crashes.
Desktop application software mostly sucks. I
at low I/O priority, without unpleasantly degrading system performance.
I imagine the sheer seek cost of pulling all those dentries, inodes into
memory, and evicting all the other useful data you had around - is a big
part of the plague. Hopefully btrfs will improve the situation somewhat
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:31:04 +0200
The tracker-store is a desktop service that offers the application
developer a query capability against data that it stores. The data that
it stores must be strictly defined by a schema (which is what in RDF is
called an ontology). The schemas that we ship by
Tracker will store this if the applications request storage of it. The
issue of protecting the user's personal data is left to the applications
using it and the underlying operating system's security features.
To a business deploying systems with this feature there are multiple
issues
- Need
One short coming in this approach will be, It will cause a problem
where multiple applications can be associated with a file-type, over a
period of time. For instance, for .mbox files, the applications could
vary like: Evolution, Mutt, Pine, Claws, Thunderbird, etc. And it is
common among
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:41:21 +0200
Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Matteo Settenvinimat...@member.fsf.org
wrote:
IANAL too, but I'm not sure it fits. It's questionable if it is a
system component you can't live without, like glibc.
However, that's
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:46:47 +0100
Joone Hur jo...@kldp.org wrote:
If we use GNOME Shell on embedded devices, we need a GPL licensed OpenGL/ES
library (HW accelerated). The problem is that we didn't find this kind of
library.
Chipset vendors don't provide a GPL licensed OpenGL/ES library.
So
Its true that all of these *could* and *should* mark the file as
executable, however since we never demanded that before this would be a
regression for many users. Both for old created desktop files and for
new ones created by non-updated apps.
Why is this a problem ?
- You can chmod the
This is kind of silly; I have to type a complex keyboard combination in
order to input a password? That is annoying. Additionally, switching
It makes a lot of sense in some environments and not a lot of sense in
many others.
VTs in Linux is usually slow; more annoyance. Expect some
http://developer.gnome.org/doc/guides/programming-guidelines/code-style.html
So, basically GNOME was supports to be using the linux kernel coding
style to begin with, but that has probably been watered out by now.
For the kernel coding style its
indent -npro -kr -i8 -ts8 -sob -l80 -ss -ncs
Get a better kernel then ;-). On a more serious note, didn't the recent
Firefox 3 O_SYNC fiasco on Linux make some file system developers
realize some short comings of current state of the kernel? If so,
Synchronous I/O is *very* slow but you need to discuss that mostly with
hardware vendors
I don't mean to be impertinent, but isn't any screen bigger than
2048x2048 a major edge case? It's like desktop apps that only work on
screens bigger than 640x480... who cares at this stage? By the time
that's anything bug an edge case, won't the hardware have caught up?
It's far from an edge
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:32:05 +0100
gtk_label_new (_(this is a string with in it));
Well firstly it is no longer C. You should be using \2xx\0xx or \xblah
encoding but that is a trivial side item to fix. Assuming you fix that it
obviously compiles and probably comes out ok in a .po file.
In
BTW: I realised last night there is another way to tackle this which lets
you turn the problem on its head
Given smart quotes directly in code are not valid C and that you need to
distinguish different quotes so can't do a perl 1 liner turn the problem
the other way up
Source - with smart quotes
(you could extract the translations from the converted file to
save having to mend all the translations but that might actually be long
term worse)
This would result in a thousand .c.in files or a large header .h.in
file with all the strings ;)
Not really. You just generate a temporary
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:48:31 +0100
Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In LANG=C you call gtk_label_new with UTF-8 strings. What happens at that
point depends if gtk_label_new ever calls a single C library function
All of that means that there are no run-time problems.
The only actual concern is whether compilers will choke
on UTF-8 source files. Alan says that, according to the
standard, a compiler would be perfectly right to choke.
I believe him. I also don't care.
I don't think that one is a show
Well, as I said, in this case:
gtk_label_new(_(some_string));
The output of gettext can (and often will) be UTF-8,
so gtk_label_new is going to receive UTF-8 whether
some_string is ASCII or not. If it's not UTF-8-safe,
we're pretty much screwed already.
No no no
The output of _(blah)
They work perfectly when you pass them UTF-8 data no matter what your
locale.
Just to back this up:
http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-question-index.html#id2776084
Cool - so for anything which doesn't touch the C library directly you can
write _(\xABCD) type stuff for smart
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:01:22 -0400
Dan Winship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
GTK/Glib are not the biggest problem here. You also use C library
functions in Gnome applications. Glib/Gtk+ works with the C library in C
locale simply because ASCII is a subset of UTF-8. That ceases
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:44:09 +0100
Alexander Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So how do we go about coming up with an official position for this? If
I start cooking patches here and there I don't want to have to make
the same argument with every maintainer... :)
It seems the standards documents
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:43:05 +0100
Alexander Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan, you seem to be missing the point.
No I'm afraid you are the one who is missing the point here:
The only places where I am suggesting replacing with are in existing
gettext calls, which *are* UTF-8 whether
Are there actually legitimate reasons for anyone to ever use a non-UTF-8
locale these days?
Other than legacy, and wanting to find bugs in programs? Probably not...
Maybe somebody should break the compatibility view and make the C locale
UTF-8.
Well you can certainly submit a proposal to
Sarcasm aside, if people are using Shift-JIS/KOI8R/RU in translations,
those strings WILL get fed into UTF-8 string functions and stuff will
break. We use UTF-8 here, in GNOME-land, right?
If the gnome libraries have built in UTF-8 assumptions yes. But the rest
of the system will work just
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:42:24 +0100
Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats because you have your fingers in your ears and don't want to
listen. Consider a career in politics instead.
Well, no, you have brought up
Some people are worried about string functions breaking. I really
don't see how this is the case, seeing as we're doing g_some_function
(_(Some ASCII string)) which is replaced with a UTF-8 string at
runtime anyway.
Does anyone have any actual proof of UTF-8 in our translatable strings
Since you don't know whether the result of _(foo) will be strict ASCII,
you must always treat it as if it were not. GLib/GTK+ *requires* UTF-8
strings for all (most?) of its string handling functions...
GTK/Glib are not the biggest problem here. You also use C library
functions in Gnome
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:41:15 +0100
Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about printing to files ? An nm also rather suggests that gnome
apps do use printf and fprintf somewhat and many of the other functions
mentioned
On Sun, 25 May 2008 22:45:36 -0400
Hubert Figuiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 20:26 -0600, Ralph Boland wrote:
Sorry for not being a development issue unless you consider modifying
gnome
so those stupid enough to do what I have done can't do it anymore.
since
On Wed, 14 May 2008 04:17:09 -0400
Havoc Pennington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As James says on Simos's blog post, all strings inside GTK apps are
defined to be UTF-8 regardless of locale. GLib and GTK will convert on
the fly to locale encoding if they print to a terminal.
gtk may do, but what
They also tend to fail horribly when pasting into a non-Unicode
terminal, which is still often the case over SSH. Probably not a huge
desktop consideration, though. Every distribution I know of uses Unicode
by default on the local terminal at this point.
Doesn't matter for translations but
Don't we already have plenty of non-ASCII POT files?
I know gnome-doc-utils is non-ASCII.
That would be a bug...
that we've had all this functionality for quite a while, but
we're still typing as if we're on old typewriters. What do
we need to do, as programmers, to get the world out of
On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:22:51 -0400
Pat Suwalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan Cox wrote:
Put the English quotes in the en_US and en_GB translations, put German
quotes in the de ones and so on.
This, if course, makes something like the very tiny en_CA locale into a
rather full locale. I
Honestly, other than being pedantic, I don't see the
problem with UTF-8 in the C locale. Does it cause
any *actual* problems? I've never once gotten a bug
report against g-d-u about this.
Sort order, comparisons, printing, string lengths when using locale aware
functions, and no doubt a few
Companies don't like GPL as they have to expose their IP and are
afraid to loose money. If the library is LGPL they can still use the
I would disagree there. Most companies I deal with like the GPL because
it means that anything they do provide cannot be ripped off by the
competition - which is
But fundamentally right now the desktop is still one security domain,
and I don't see that changing in the near future.
The desktop is quite a few security domains. Mail clients handle
certificates and dangerous remote content, other tools render untrusted
content like PDF, while the desktop
(FWIW, personally, I'd like to see all of our service daemons (g-p-m,
g-v-m, pk-update-client, etc.) all sharing the same process space.
Things like that.)
With a kernel hat on do you have a specific reasons for that ? Is there
stuff you gain or is this primarily about memory usage of non
correctly*. As it is now, maybe it isn't PA's fault, maybe it's the
linux kernel's fault for not having a good enough process scheduler, but
the sad truth is that PA's sound skips (I mean I hear audio clicks when
switching workspaces). I believe when people say it doesn't skip for
their
New d-d-l rule: no one gets to say 'it is useful' without explaining
their use case :)
Luis (I believe you that you use it, but I can't for the life of me
figure out why)
I use week number because everyone I deal with in Finland has phone calls
meetings week 37 and the like for some
Are you asking for an unencrypted area that only one application has
read access to? If so, you might be able to do something like that
with SELinux (or AppArmor?), but I don't think it would be a very
robust solution.
The Linux kernel key service can do this for session/user/user+session
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:39:04 -0400
Ray Strode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 8/29/07, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you asking for an unencrypted area that only one application has
read access to? If so, you might be able to do something like that
with SELinux (or AppArmor
- have some mechanism for smart deductions, like I can guess you
have an XMPP account that matches your google.com username/password -
maybe this just has to be in the apps, not sure
This needs some care. There are evils that lurk on the web side of this.
One big one is that if a central
Exactly, yep. I can write some simple spec up, but first I want to
understand all the current thinking (so far it sounds like there's a
pretty blank slate for spec'ing this out)
You might want to have a chat with Dave Howells at Red Hat as well. Dave
did the Linux kernel side key management
Although some jokey acronyms may seem amusing at first the novelty value
tends to wear off. I would ask that people reconsider, the words Gnome
Online are not too hard to type, and quite a succint phrase that if
searched for one might stand a decent chance of being able to find
something
I think it would be a shame to drop the credits
for our past contributors. We're standing on the
shoulder of giants.
The giants are not the ones it matters to, they have their names tattooed
over everything. You are standing on the shoulders of a small army of
minor contributors, who probably
Ar Llu, 2006-09-04 am 21:01 +1000, ysgrifennodd Jeff Waugh:
Have you seen the Windows Vista screenshot tool? The basic UI is pants, but
it offers some cool features that we could swipe:
* Full screen
* Window selection (click to choose)
* Rectangular selection
* Lassoo selection
Ar Llu, 2006-06-19 am 18:39 +0800, ysgrifennodd James Henstridge:
If you intend to present localised license text, please provide a way
to turn it off (and probably turn it off by default ...).
Translations can introduce ambiguities or change the meaning of a
text, which is not acceptable in
On Maw, 2006-04-11 at 17:08 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote:
I've spent all afternoon trying to figure out how I, as an OEM, can
configure Gnome before giving it to a user. I just want to change some
icons on the panel and maybe a menu entry.
Its an absolute undocumented mess and has been for
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 14:50 +, Edward Hervey wrote:
Gstreamer 0.10 will also give users the possibility to use, where
patents apply, multimedia plugins distributed by 3rd party vendors to
offer support for licensed codecs for which no legal plugins are
available.
Does that make more
On Maw, 2006-03-07 at 16:37 +, Alan Cox wrote:
plugins are not available. The GNOME 2.14 distribution does not itself
contain these non-free components.
Actually better yet
contain or endorse
Alan
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It isn't about Design by community but Design IN the community. The
former assumes everyone has something useful to say, the latter merely
recognizes the value of code review, security checking, third party
input that -may- be valuable, and possibly getting help.
If you design stuff in secret
On Mer, 2006-02-08 at 12:07 +0100, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
This course of action will create a time when GNOME goes the way of
propriortary UNIX: Tru64, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, IRIX... imagine a
world with Novell Desktop, Topaz, Java Desktop, the Hatrack Environment:
all competing products...
On Gwe, 2006-01-20 at 09:05 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
currently has no mechanism for making a distinction between background
users and the user that currently 'controls' the machine.
I don't think hal's the right layer to make that distinction. I'm
working on implementing it at the
On Iau, 2006-01-19 at 17:09 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
Strong disagreement, see http://blog.fubar.dk/?p=63 for some ramblings
why this is exactly what one wants to do. Yes, you need to answer how
the system daemon is configured when no user is logged in (don't tell me
some UNIX-y scheme with
On Sad, 2006-01-14 at 04:43 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote:
About translating on-disk folder name, is there an assumption that
users either know exactly 1 native language, or bilingual with english
as 2nd language? How about those who are bilingual in 2 non-english
languages or those using 3rd
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