quote who=Andrew Johnson
Smooth has been maintained and for now will continue to be maintained on
SF, it is in gtk-engines only too get it out of gnome-themes and
gnome-themes-extras not because I want to maintain it there. I will
continue to keep it in sync with the latest stable release +
quote who=Bryan Clark
Simply put I'd like to remove the 'Run Application' menu item from the
Applications menu top level since it shouldn't be something that most of
our users are expected to interact with very often or at all. This
doesn't mean removing it's functionality, just removing it
quote who=Bryan Clark
So what if we are flamed for removing this? If it's the right thing to
do, isn't that worth getting flamed for? ;-)
Even if the 'Run Applications' has been around since the beginning of
GNOME, that doesn't mean it's a good thing. If we keep with that
mentality we'll
quote who=Callum McKenzie
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 00:29 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote:
If there was anything close to consensus in the last round of debate
about a new default theme (Glider? Indubstrial?), it might be nice to
get it in right at the beginning of 2.11 and start to deal with any
quote who=Ryan McDougall
Its early in the consensus building, but I'm all for a hardcore push for a
wonderful new theme, including heavily publicizing on art.gnome.org,
gnome-look.org, even slashdot! Promises of wealth and fortune for the
winner could be interesting.
Donations welcome.
quote who=Jeff Waugh
Particularly with GTK+ 2.8 on the horizon, we should be looking at
leapfrogging the current best effort [2], no matching it. :-)
[2] That has got to be OS X.
Also, a theme so good that it would unify vendor appearance of GNOME. So
good that vendors would
quote who=Elijah Newren
I belive you may be referring to my email. I regretted sending it not too
long after it was gone. You are right that it was really lame. I wish I
could sugar coat it somehow, but the best I can do is chalk it up to a bad
day and apologize to both you and Murray.
quote who=Jeff Waugh
I very rarely use the Run Application... dialogue. I don't particularly
like having it around. I hope we have a model in the future that makes it
wholly irrelevant. But I can't rationalise removing it, because I can't
see any direct benefit to users by doing so
quote who=Ryan McDougall
On Mon, 2005-14-02 at 02:58 -0500, Bryan Clark wrote:
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 17:23 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
[snipped much good thinking]
Perhaps this would be a helpful place to flesh out the awesome ideas you
guys are putting forth: http://live.gnome.org
quote who=Link Dupont
Not sure why we feel the need to have such a theme as a default though;
the only reason I can see is to compete with OS X (lets face it, we've got
Windows XP Luna beat, even with themes like Crux o_O). Do we want to
advertise GNOME as a flashy eye-candy based Desktop? I
quote who=Alan Cox
Qt now I believe adds scrollbars which is a bit of hack but didnt at the
time.
Probably a result of Qtopia. If anyone wants to play with GNOME apps in a
bondage-and-discipline window manager, it's worth playing with Matchbox,
which was designed for embedded use. I use it on
quote who=Davyd Madeley
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 01:45 -0200, Everaldo Canuto wrote:
A new default theme for GTK solve some problem but another problem is a
default theme icon for GNOME... I ask some normal end users about the
screenshots and all users (100% of 11 users) say me that the
quote who=Aidan Delaney
What do you want in a new default theme? I'm looking for everything
from big-picture to details. I don't want information like the
$insert_widget should look like $insert_existing_theme I want
information like the $insert_widget should look like
quote who=Seth Nickell
To give a very graphic illustration of this based on a search of
the archives, Havoc's last post to desktop-devel was over a year ago.
Two days ago. :-)
- Jeff
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gnome.conf.au 2005: April 19th http://live.gnome.au/Canberra2005
It is said that
quote who=Sergey Udaltsov
Celebrating the oncoming GNOME 2.10 release, I am proud to present new
stable release of the X keyboard utility library.
So you intend for GNOME 2.10 to use xklavier 2.0? :-)
- Jeff
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UbuntuDownUnder: April 25th-30th http://www.ubuntu.com/
quote who=Eugenia Loli-Queru
http://oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/~davyd/misc/gtk-theme-nuts.png
This seems completely b0rked to me.
I just installed the latest version of gnome-themes and tried the broken
Simple. I like what I see there better than the normal version that will
be
quote who=Matt T. Proud
Using a wiki would be a great way to give these feature requests added
exposure, not to mention to create a central place where users and
interested public could look and find what is--or at least could be--in
store for the next release.
Ideally, the wiki will
quote who=Alan Cox
There is huge pressure to create vendor-brand but the foundation trademark
fiasco caused most of what you are complaining about.
Sorry, but that's a massive overstatement. The trademark issues are unclear,
but there are plenty of GNOME logos in the distros. If this was more
quote who=Bill Haneman
Thanks for another make-work project, spanner in the works, etc. Why was
the wider development community not consulted before proposing this?
It has been on the agenda at least one whole release before Evolution was
added to the GNOME Desktop release, and discussed many
quote who=Marc O'Morain
With regards to having the menubar at the top of the screen, rather than
the top of the application:
Guys, please take this thread to usability-list. It is not appropriate on
d-d-l until it's being implemented. :-)
- Jeff
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quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 21:56 +0200, Chipzz wrote:
It happens when you visit smb:// from a GtkFileChooser, or when you
go to a folder that has .desktop files in it. The file chooser should
handle .desktop files as if they were symlinks, but it doesn't.
quote who=Luis Villa
Someone with more perl-fu than me- would it be possible to set up a script
to watch cvs-commits list and send this kind of mail out automatically, or
just update a webpage somewhere? Making maintainers do this manually (and
remember to do it automatically) seems sort of
quote who=Mark McLoughlin
I think these kind of questions are only relevant in the context of
deciding on the *gtk* schedule. I don't think they're very relevant in the
context of deciding whether GNOME 2.12 should use GTK+ 2.8. If we're all
confident the schedules line up, then I don't think
quote who=Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:50 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Hi all,
Could all the module maintainers add themselves in the maintainer column
on the Desktop modules list [1] and on the Developer Platform modules
list [2]. It might also be useful for the platform
quote who=Morten Welinder
For non-local servers without Render, Cairo will allow us to eliminate
the round-trips... a huge win.
Show me the money!
Morten, I can understand your frustration, but to abuse some more movie
quotes: Your tone was pretty bogus, and we should all be excellent to
quote who=Scott Sloan
It think making it obvious and reminding them that their feedback does
matter, is a lot better than throwing it in the about Box which maybe gets
looked at once or twice.
gnome-about is one thing that distros, thus far, have politely declined to
molest. Which is good.
quote who=Steven Garrity
Let's leave the market stats (both Gnome's and totals) to firms that
specialize in it. Rough estimates are the best we'll ever be able to do on
this anyhow.
Mostly, I agree, but there are a number of sources of information that we
could use to help us along the way,
quote who=Luis Villa
I *think* we're asking 'how many users of GNOME are there'
Broadly, yes, but what we've discussed is establishing multiple data sources
(however reliable, having datapoints with caveats is better than nothing) as
well as providing encouragement through momentum.
- Jeff
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quote who=Rob Adams
That's close but that talks about Preferences and Administration. I'm
talking about System Tools and Administration.
In many ways, they're in it together. One way of getting rid of crapplets is
by integrating them into more useful locations - you could do the same thing
quote who=James M. Cape
Couldn't you just set it to run gnome-terminal --execute sudo -i or
something?
(Yes, and with -p, you can add a prompt - these are new options though, at
least since hoary.)
- Jeff
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OSCON 2005: August 1st-5th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/
quote who=Bryan Clark
I'm pushing to see, switching to g-c-c shell with search! in the spirit
of Calum's response earlier, that way we're shuffling deck chairs in order
to build another ship.
Don't you see searching for preferences as an astounding failure on Apple's
part (and others, who
quote who=Matthias Clasen
- is a bit heavy on work-related fields. I mean, who really wants to
know about my assistant (if I had one) ?
- the Personal Info tab looks intimidating with all those long
entries
- it was not immediately clear to me what kind of data I am expected
to
quote who=Daniel Borgmann
One alternative would be that you just call it Clearlooks and we change
the Clearlooks default to be what you have in mind (at least for the
metatheme, which is GNOME specific anyway). Another one would be to call
it Default or maybe GNOME Default. In any case I
quote who=Luis Villa
Yeah, figured it would have to be per-distro*. With a little help from
vmware or something along those lines that should be too hard to automate.
That'll be slow. Use a chroot. :-)
- Jeff
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OSCON 2005: August 1st-5th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
Mark Shuttleworth, during his keynote at GUADEC, gave an awesome demo of
Ubuntu's meta-bug tracker: they maintain pointers for the same bug across
the different bug trackers of different distros, and thus they magically
know when any of them manages to fix
quote who=Luis Villa
On 7/22/05, Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like the Ubuntu folks are coming up with the solutions anyways.
I (and I expect others) would certainly be displeased if we became
dependent on a proprietary tool to manage our bugs or release process. As
long
quote who=uws
If the default is just the built-in theme in GTK+ (no way to check now, no
X over here), I think a rename to Built-in is the best.
That won't mean anything to users, and is a pretty skanky name for a theme
anyway. :-) The metatheme should just be nuked; having something called
quote who=Rob Adams
If you'd care to explain how this feature will enable us to estimate the
number of gnome users worldwide I would be very happy to hear it.
There are many different sources of information we can use. We started by
discussing passive information, such as popcon stats, ntp and
quote who=John Williams
You are right to be a stat-cynic, if by that you mean that much published
research and estimates of percentages are unreliable.
If, however, you mean that the science of statistics is useless (as
opposed to mis-used), I beg to differ.
No, I mean that the numbers
I've filed a bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312839, but
this seemed important enough to raise here for exposure before we release (I
didn't want to mark it as a blocker).
gnome-icon-theme ships the mozilla.org trademarked firefox logo. Not only do
we not have the right to ship this
quote who=Pat Suwalski
Jeff Waugh wrote:
gnome-icon-theme ships the mozilla.org trademarked firefox logo. Not only
do we not have the right to ship this under their licensing requirements,
but it would impact on our distributors too.
While the obvious solution is to remove it, is there any
quote who=Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 21 août 2005 à 14:00 +0200, Claessens Xavier a écrit :
2) If GTK+-3.0 is released, will it lead automatically to gnome-3.0 ? So
is it the right moment (not now, but when GTK3 will be released) to do
API/ABI breakage in all gnome apps/libs ?
There's no
quote who=BJörn Lindqvist
I don't really see much reason ever to break ABI for the forseeable
future. There's essentially nothing stopping us from simply leaving
deprecated functions in there indefinitely, other than a fairly minor
memory footprint increase which will never be paged in
quote who=Alex Graveley
My gut reaction is that you should disable it now, and reenable/cache xrdb
if user response is negative.
Turns out we've already disabled it and re-enabled it again because the user
response was negative. So... :-)
- Jeff
--
UbuntuBelowZero
quote who=Luis Villa
Probably back when adobe was still Xlib...
Luis (trying hard to think of any significant applications anymore
that aren't in some modern toolkit)
How about most people's Emacs? Not that modern toolkits should be completely
ignoring this stuff anyway. *cough*
- Jeff
--
quote who=Jeff Waugh
How about most people's Emacs?
And everything Tk, which covers a pretty surprising amount of software that
corporates like.
- Jeff
--
GNOME Summit: October 8th-10th http://live.gnome.org/Boston2005
There is a very fine line between 'hobby
quote who=Luis Villa
I'm still distinctly unconvinced the rest of us (that is, the vast
majority) should be paying a 10% startup penalty for this.
The suggestions of 'add it back to your session' were fine - the reason I'm
responding is to put some reality back into the but that's crack
quote who=Mike Hearn
GNU Emacs in CVS uses GTK2 though. Hopefully they'll get around to doing a
new release before the day the X server is obsoleted by mind implants.
Lisp was more powerful than mind implants twenty years ago. Ask Paul Graham.
- Jeff
--
linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New
quote who=Luis Villa
This rocks! I'd love to see every module maintainer write down their plans
for the next release (if they have them) in the wiki[1] and include a link
in the branch email in the future.
[1] live.gnome.org [2]
[2] always happy to provide footnote services
- Jeff
--
GNOME
quote who=Yavor Doganov
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:46:12 +0530, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
Evolution Data Server is now licensed under the terms of LGPL.
That's really sad news.
It's *great* news. The GNOME Developer Platform is LGPL (and similar) for a
reason, and we have been keen to see
http://go-evolution.org/Evo2.6
Hi Harish,
Was disappointed to not see the big Evolution UI split in your 2.6 plans,
though I was under the impression it was coming up very soon. How soon do
you guys think you'll get to it?
Thanks,
- Jeff
--
GNOME Summit: October 8th-10th
quote who=Elijah Newren
- In past releases, we did not specify an exact time when tarballs were
due nor when freezes began. This ended up causing some
misunderstandings, cut down on testing time, and made it harder for
release-oriented projects (e.g. live cd, garnome). So I'd like
quote who=JP Rosevear
That happened a while ago. Unfortunately, the daemon is still APSL2, so
we should not be recommending that our distributors ship it by
supporting it.
We already are with howl since it uses the same daemon.
Yes, and this is bad. Luckily we've been able to express
quote who=Luis Villa
In the future, you have updated:
http://live.gnome.org/RoadMap
to indicate what wonderful new features applets will have in 2.13.
Luis (insert air guitar here)
EXCELLENT!
- Jeff
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linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand http://linux.conf.au/
quote who=Luis Villa
but your mail client probably looked at my Mail-Followup-To header and
complied. :-)
gmail displays that to the user as reply-to, which is damned irritating.
EVIDENCE OF EVIL!
- Jeff
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EuroOSCON: October 17th-20thhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/
quote who=Mark McLoughlin
I the first thing worth discussing is why?. Why is it a good idea to
show /etc/motd at login?
It's very handy for sysadmins to display information to the user at login.
I've used zenity and very bad gnome-session hacks for this in the past. Our
audience of
quote who=Rodrigo Moya
Looking at how to improve gnome-session startup, I found both
gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon are starting ESD.
I guess we really want one of them to start it, so which one should be
removed? My first thought is to remove the one in g-s-d. Is that ok? Or am
I
quote who=Davyd Madeley
clock panel applets remove e-d-s dep in panel
This would stop us from linking the clock in with the panel, which would be
a good idea in this day and age (it was eons ago that we stopped doing that
for silly but what if it crashes reasons).
- Jeff
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quote who=Rodrigo Moya
So, do we really want to keep around the xrdb thing in
gnome-settings-daemon?
How about an off-by-default GConf key? Lots of workstation deployments I
know about really benefit from the xrdb stuff (heaps of motif and xforms).
- Jeff
--
Ubuntu USA Europe Tour: Oct-Nov
quote who=John Rice
3. Front End: my understanding of the current control center applets are
that they have a front end and back end architecture communicating via
XML. Would be great if we could support Python based front ends as well.
That's true for the gnome-system-tools, but not for
quote who=Alan McGinlay
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1872166,00.asp
Has anyone from gnome been contacted about this? It would seem to me that
if they don't work with us then what they are trying to do is utterly
pointless.
I caught up with them at the open LSB plenary during LWE
quote who=Shaun McCance
I've long held that XP got the interaction right. There's just one login
screen. Unlocking your screen is just logging back in again. Switching
users is just logging in.
Right now, we have the OS X interaction: We have a login screen and a
separate unlock dialog.
quote who=Shaun McCance
I don't think useful to my mum should be our only criterion for
inclusion in the desktop. Right now, our fastest path onto desktop is
corporate workstation deployments. Any tool that helps admins roll out
two hundred Gnome desktops should be greeted with enthusiasm.
quote who=James Henstridge
Vincent Untz wrote:
Does it mean that the apps should depend on gnome-themes (or the modules
where the HighContrast theme is) at installation time?
No more than the checks they do for hicolor-icon-theme at the moment (i.e.
no checks). It'd just involve
quote who=BJörn Lindqvist
Gnome currently uses the GNU Autotools for building all projects.
Autotools is hard to work with and complicated and there are lots of
techically superior build systems out there. Therefore, I suggest that
GNOME should gradually replace Autotools with scons
quote who=Elijah Newren
I'm sending this email because there are a couple areas where we need
everyone's help getting their product updated with the new bugzilla:
Dude, this totally needs to be on devel-announce-list. :-)
- Jeff
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linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand
quote who=Anna Marie Dirks
In the next version of the Novell Linux Desktop, we will definitely be
using browser mode by default -- and we'll default to having the sidepane
on, too.
Which side pane will you be using by default - tree or places?
- Jeff
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linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New
quote who=Emmanuele Bassi
I, for one, did not understand why Breezy did ship with that crippled
ubuntu-nautilus option set to on by default inside the schema, that
closed the parent windows behind, breaking my work flow without letting me
know (apart from digging into Ubuntu's bugzilla and
quote who=Anna Marie Dirks
Which side pane will you be using by default - tree or places?
Places.
Cool. We're doing the same, and that appears to be the upstream default in
browser mode. I'd love to see this as the default in 2.14.
- Jeff
--
linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand
Hey,
What's the status of the new session manager code? Will this land soon for
testing in 2.13?
Thanks,
- Jeff
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NASCAR is not race per se. It's just a contest about who can turn left
quote who=Reinout van Schouwen
It irks me every time people talk about selling GNOME or using GNOME to
get people to shift from some other platform. [1]
* That is not what GNOME is about *
Yes it *absolutely* is. Freedom - not just software freedom, but the big
freedoms that it supports and
quote who=Reinout van Schouwen
What I'm trying to say is that I believe that design decisions on GNOME
components should never be primarily motivated by considerations like
will it be familiar enough to Windows converts? or let's put in this
useless gimmick because it will generate more sales
quote who=Ryan Lortie
I've compiled a list of these bugs with summary information.
devel-announce-list would be the perfect place to post these in future. :-)
- Jeff
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What does an underage
quote who=Mattias Eriksson
I know that this have been discussed in the past, but no solution was
reached then. I hope it will be different this time.
I strongly agree that we need a solution for this (something GConf defined
would be perfect for desktop/network administrators). Let's do it for
quote who=Murray Cumming
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 21:29 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Mattias Eriksson
I know that this have been discussed in the past, but no solution was
reached then. I hope it will be different this time.
I strongly agree that we need a solution
quote who=Alan Horkan
Microsoft have finally [1] said they will drop the patronising my
prefix. I hope you were using it only for example.
I'd much prefer if we could have
~/Documents/
/Templates/
/Pictures/
/Videos/
They're also dropping the way they have everything rooted
quote who=Frederic Crozat
Le mardi 17 janvier 2006 à 10:48 +0100, Andy Wingo a écrit :
Hi Vincent,
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 22:42 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
Well, the question is: is GStreamer 0.8 totally unmaintained?
Yup.
Thanks for all the people running deployed software
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
We need to mock, ridicule, and ostracise distributions which don't commit
their patches for non-HEAD versions of GNOME to CVS.
I will get the rubber chicken.
A while back, someone mentioned they had a script that polled for patches in
various distro packages
quote who=Christophe Fergeau
Want to have fun in Brussels?
Here is a reminder, we are still looking for people to give talks in the
gnome devroom during FOSDEM.
Christophe,
I made a page on the GNOME wiki about the FOSDEM devroom earlier today, but
didn't want to announce it until I'd
quote who=Christian Persch
The latest gnome-icon-theme release has removed the gnome-spinner and
gnome-spinner-rest themed icons, causing breakage in (at least)
epiphany, nautilus, gedit and beagle. Other people have told me that other
removed icons also cause problems in nautilus and
quote who=Federico Mena Quintero
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 13:36 -0600, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
6. Create a subpackage of symlinks from the missing icons (the old icon
names) to the new icons. If you don't have a new icon that matches,
find the closest generic one, or simply put in
quote who=Elijah Newren
Dude, why are we supporting this *wholly inappropriate* late breakage? This
is not the kind of change that we should meekly accept at this stage of the
release process. We don't *have* to do this, and we *shouldn't* do it. This
is a choice between release
quote who=John Williams
I take Jeff's point as well, although personally I would not have put it
in such emotive terms.
I put it in emotive terms because *someone* has to offset all the hugging
and back-slapping about Dan's mail. All this positivity about a mail that
basically says this
quote who=Dan Winship
But it seems to me now that everyone other than me (and possibly Jono) is
actually talking about Xgl, and I have no comment on that.
(OTOH, if you really were saying that Novell's writing a replacement for
the panel menu was commons-sapping, community-tearing, morally
quote who=Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
I was not talking exclusively about Novell, Xgl, or the new panel
applet. I was talking about a serious problem in our community, and the
destructive ideas, memes and role models that support it.
Isn't what we got here exactly what has been
quote who=Thom Holwerda
What I am missing in your replies is some sort of thank you to Novell.
They seem to have done some serious amount of work -- behind closed
doors, but they did it. They released their code for everyone to benefit
from. So what is the big problem?
So, again, despite
quote who=Thom Holwerda
But my point remains. How far are you willing to go? Must developers
adhere to some sort of code of conduct-- a sort of extra set of
requirements-- before they can contribute to the GNOME project?
Because that is kind of how your viewpoint comes across here.
I don't
quote who=Alan Cox
It isn't about Design by community but Design IN the community.
*Exactly* - and it's so easy to fall to laziness in the face of all the
challenges Dan so eloquently explained in his email... and that's what has
been happening in GNOME for a long time now. Let's break the
quote who=Anna Marie Dirks
What a big jerkbird! So lazy! So community-tearing! Definitely the work of
an evil, evil noncontributor.
Anna, as I mentioned in another email, this frustration is about a broader
problem we have in our community than the particular acts of contributing
organisations
quote who=Havoc Pennington
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 21:54 +0100, Jon K Hellan wrote:
However, if we decide to target a niche audience, on a niche operating
system, that's niche squared. I doubt if that's sustainable.
Didn't say niche, I said specific. The group can still be large. There are
quote who=Shaun McCance
Well, the new Clearlooks entails both the Cairo-enabled Clearlooks engine
in gtk-engines and the Clearlooks theme data in gnome-themes. Both the
engine and the theme data have changed. The theme data is probably
setting a few things that are new to the engine, but
quote who=Shaun McCance
The theme we have now is a fundamentally different beast from the
Clearlooks we selected as the new default last release cycle. There's no
question that it's become more lickably delicious, but it isn't even close
to the same theme. Using it is basically tantamount
quote who=Lex Hider
(A similar set of issues were expressed more eloquently in my GUADEC talk,
if you want to watch that video.)
do you have a link?
http://stream.fluendo.com/archive/6uadec/Jeff_Waugh_-_Project_Topaz.ogg
- Jeff
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FOSDEM 2006: Brussels, Belgium
quote who=Rodrigo Moya
My list in the GEP includes all this and more ;)
yeah, I think your list + some evaluation team scrutiny could work much
better than looking for complete consensus on the mailing list.
That evaluation team *is* the release team. But the release team doesn't
make
quote who=Brian Cameron
One issue I see is that ORCA depends heavily on Python. Python (and
probably more importantly gnome-python) isn't officially a part of the
GNOME Platform.
As discussed in numerous previous release cycles (and finally consummated in
2.14), Python software can and will
quote who=Shaun McCance
2) Create a build script that can take a list of all our documents from
all relevant branches of all relevant modules and produce the HTML.
Better to use tarball releases.
3) Set up a system that tracks CVS and rebuilds the live documentation
whenever needed. Forget
quote who=Rodney Dawes
The Tango theme is not replacing GNOME icon theme, but the icons in
gnome-icon-theme are being updated with their style, and being moved to
follow the naming spec. I tried to get this done for 2.14 even, and did it
at what I thought was a reasonable time in the cycle
quote who=Alan Horkan
Chris Lahey wrote:
I think if we are targeting features,
... no not really, I wasn't suggesting targeting features any more than is
done within the current 6 month release cycle.
I call 'Brooken!'
We hardly even have an agenda for our time-based
quote who=Alexander Larsson
Any grand and glorious plans for 2.16?
Not really. Jon Nettleton is working on pam-keyring[1], so some work
required for that is going in.
1) http://www.hekanetworks.com/pam_keyring/
That's very exciting! Has anyone been working on kerberos, gpg or ssh love
quote who=Alan Horkan
[1] Holy shit, just stop talking about version numbers at all. It
totally doesn't mean anything useful.
I understand you and most developers do not think it is important but
would it kill you to recognise that some people do* and it wouldn't hurt
to try and pin down
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