Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-24 Thread Steven Noels
On Nov 24, 2003, at 1:18 AM, Erik Bruchez wrote: This being said, for those who judge techologies without reading the specs (or who read them too fast), there is nothing in JavaServer Faces that forces you to use JSP or that limits you to outputting a character stream from a renderer. Amen. An

Re: DB support in flowscript (was: XSP official position)

2003-11-24 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Leszek Gawron dijo: Could you provide me with some link to OJB docs that describe handling databases witch triggers modifying the DB content? http://db.apache.org/ojb/how-to-work-with-stored-procedures.html (Follow the document, they create some triggers for Oracle in the sample). Best

Re: SVGSerializer patch

2003-11-24 Thread Borges Charles
I think that in cocoon 2.1.3 the sitemap parameters are not available for serializers. They're always set to empty parameters when the SitemapModelComponent is a Serializer. Is that correct? It is correct that... you found a bug :-/ The sitemap engine wasn't updated to take into

Re: [Woody patch] Class, New, Struct, and Union widgets

2003-11-24 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 21:39, Timothy Larson wrote: --- Bruno Dumon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:37, Timothy Larson wrote: I found the naming of the class/new widgets confusing. In fact, I think it is confusing to call them widgets at all, even if they might be

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-24 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 01:18, Erik Bruchez wrote: I just laughed. It will be a very hard job for any JSF proponent to convince multi-channel-intensive users to follow that renderkits road. I don't envy them at all ;-) They'll probably defend by saying you can write a renderkit that

Re: Removing deprecated i18n features

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Hi all, Currently I'm looking into i18n transformer... Couple of most irritating problems I want to solve are: * No reload of catalogues on change This would be very cool! * Crashes when message/ contains tag with attributes: messagebla a href=bla bla /a bla /message

excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Hi: It is OK the following libs changes in cocoon 2.2: Add (from cocoon 2.1): excalibur-event-api-1.0.4-dev.jar excalibur-event-impl-1.0.4-dev.jar excalibur-sourceresolve-1.0.2-dev.jar excalibur-store-1.0-dev.jar excalibur-xmlutil-1.0-dev.jar Remove: excalibur-event-20030904.jar

RE: excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Unico Hommes
It should be. Just do it. Unico -Original Message- From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 24 november 2003 14:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi: It is OK the following libs changes in cocoon 2.2: Add (from cocoon 2.1): excalibur-event-api-1.0.4-dev.jar

Re: excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Should be no problem, though it might be better to have real releases. Ralph Goers on the users list mentioned that it is always a problem to grap the sources of these packages from CVS. The below updated versions are no real releases, but only recent tagged versions in the CVS. So there is no

FirstFriday: 5th or 12th December?

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David (Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is there a good reason? -Bertrand

Re: Problem with CVS of Cocoon-Documentation an Authoring Question

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I'm copying the mail list. Thanks for notifying us. We'll solve the issues you outline ASAP. On 21 Nov 2003, at 00:23, Thomas J. Sebestyen wrote: Dear Diana, Dear Stefano, Dear Greg, I have just only two simple questions. The first one is not really a question, it's related to the

Re: excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Geoff Howard
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Should be no problem, though it might be better to have real releases. Ralph Goers on the users list mentioned that it is always a problem to grap the sources of these packages from CVS. The below updated versions are no real releases, but only recent tagged versions in

wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Leszek Gawron
Hello, As Wiki became more than 50% of written documentation I think it is crucial to provide users with some kind of it's offline version. I have already found myself stalled at some problem because I had no internet access at the moment. I know I can fetch an offline version of the site but

Re: XSP official position

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 22.11.2003 03:49, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: (By the way, the simplification to xsp:logic if (somecondition()) { true_tag/ } else { false_tag/ } /xsp:logic is exactly what does not work at Cocoon and was the reason for

Serialization Exceptions (repost from user)

2003-11-24 Thread Yuri Schimke
Hi, I asked a question to the user list. However no-one was able to offer any assistance on that list. We have spent a lot of time investigating options and haven't found any solutions yet. We are having a lot of problems with caching and XSLT transformers. We are using deli, so our caches

FragmentExtractor: component parameter vs. map:parameter for extract-{uri,element}

2003-11-24 Thread Sebastian Klamar
Hi, is there any special intension (configure component once, run many times with less if's for performance issues?) to configure the extract-uri and extract-element for the FragmentExtractorTransformer (batik block) inside map:components instead of to to make them known via map:parameters? I

woody-field-styling

2003-11-24 Thread Leszek Gawron
I have noticed that woody-field-styling.xsl uses a $uri variable to prefix all resources but it is only used in xsl:template name=woody-field-head while the part that renders calendar icon has the address hardcoded. I think that this parameter should be top level for this stylesheet so it is

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button? bah. I tried to set one of the people commenting straight on how it works in Cocoon, but they seems to be convinced

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 23 Nov 2003, at 22:04, Bruno Dumon wrote: OTOH, renderkits not only abstract the rendering but also the decoding of request parameters, so that's a point where they are more flexibile then Woody, where it is all hardcoded in the widgets (and assumes HTML-like behaviour). Do you see value in

Re: CocoonForms compared with JSF

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 23 Nov 2003, at 22:04, Bruno Dumon wrote: OTOH, renderkits not only abstract the rendering but also the decoding of request parameters, so that's a point where they are more flexibile then Woody, where it is all hardcoded in the widgets (and assumes HTML-like

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Leszek Gawron
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button? bah. I have also a problem that maybe the

Re: Problem with CVS of Cocoon-Documentation an Authoring Question

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 21 Nov 2003, at 00:23, Thomas J. Sebestyen wrote: I have just only two simple questions. The first one is not really a question, it's related to the page/directory: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/cocoon-2.1/src/ documentation/xdocs/faq/ probably no one from you is using the

Re: woody-field-styling

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Leszek Gawron wrote: I have noticed that woody-field-styling.xsl uses a $uri variable to prefix all resources but it is only used in xsl:template name=woody-field-head while the part that renders calendar icon has the address hardcoded. I think that this parameter should be top level for this

Re: Introducing IOC for Java classes created in flowscript

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 21 Nov 2003, at 09:45, Sylvain Wallez wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: .. So I added a new method to cocoon that sets up an object just as if it were an Avalon component by honoring the various lifecycle interfaces. Some useful lifecycle

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Ugo Cei
Leszek Gawron wrote: I have also a problem that maybe the same: How should one protect the application from resubmitting the previous continuation? If user hits back button and submits again the the form gets into inconsistent state (some action gets called twice). var kont =

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Marc Portier
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button? bah. Yep, looks like some coins still need to fall. On the other hand, invalidated

Re: FirstFriday: 5th or 12th December?

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 17:44, Upayavira wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David (Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is there a good reason? -Bertrand Well, 5th is the first Friday, and I don't see a reason why it

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reinhard2003/11/24 09:40:41 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml index.xml Added: src/documentation/xdocs features.xml Log: - add features list from http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFeatures to CVS Cool. I

[VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Bruno Dumon
Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. -- Bruno Dumon http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought -

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1. Apply your patches yourself ;-) Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez

RE: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Joerg Heinicke On 24.11.2003 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reinhard2003/11/24 09:40:41 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml index.xml Added: src/documentation/xdocs features.xml Log: - add features list from http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?

RE: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Bruno Dumon Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 -- Reinhard

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Geoff Howard
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 - welcome! Geoff

Re: [Woody patch] Class, New, Struct, and Union widgets

2003-11-24 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 06:27, Timothy Larson wrote: --- Bruno Dumon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...slow operation on deeper nesting levels... Don't have any either (damn that optimizeit thing is expensive), but suddenly the thought crossed my mind that this might be caused by the calls to

Re: excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 15:36, Geoff Howard wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: Should be no problem, though it might be better to have real releases. Ralph Goers on the users list mentioned that it is always a problem to grap the sources of these packages from CVS. The below updated versions are no real

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1... welcome aboard! Tony

Re: Continuations and the web

2003-11-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
On 24 Nov 2003, at 17:06, Leszek Gawron wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: On 23 Nov 2003, at 21:16, Tony Collen wrote: There's a few interesting posts going on over at [1] regarding the use of continuations on web. Continuations break the back button?

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-site/site/2.1 features.html features.pdf index.html index.pdf

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 19:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reinhard2003/11/24 10:24:54 Modified:site/2.1 index.html index.pdf Added: site/2.1 features.html features.pdf Log: - add features list to our web site Unfortunately you have to commit more than the above two HTML pages. You

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Steven Noels
On Nov 24, 2003, at 7:09 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. Ditto here: welcome, Timothy! /Steven

Re: M$ publishes Word Document ML / Hello World Sample attached

2003-11-24 Thread Steven Noels
On Nov 24, 2003, at 4:57 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I'll do it then. Yep, saw that. Thanks! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog at

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Guido Casper
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 Guido

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Matthew Langham
Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 Matthew

RE: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Unico Hommes
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread gounis
how is marked that a wiki page is ready to move to CVS? --stavros On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 24.11.2003 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reinhard2003/11/24 09:40:41 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml index.xml Added:

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is marked that a wiki page is ready to move to CVS? I think whenever someone decides it's ready :) --stavros Tony, soon to have time to devote to working on Cocoon again

Re: FragmentExtractor: component parameter vs. map:parameter for extract-{uri,element}

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 16:45, Sebastian Klamar wrote: Hi, is there any special intension (configure component once, run many times with less if's for performance issues?) to configure the extract-uri and extract-element for the FragmentExtractorTransformer (batik block) inside map:components instead of

Re: excalibur libs in cocoon 2.2

2003-11-24 Thread Geoff Howard
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 24.11.2003 15:36, Geoff Howard wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: Should be no problem, though it might be better to have real releases. Ralph Goers on the users list mentioned that it is always a problem to grap the sources of these packages from CVS. The below updated

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is marked that a wiki page is ready to move to CVS? I guess almost every page has valuable content to be moved to the CVS. The only question is: Who does the work? Reinhard simply started with the maybe most wanted page for the official

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread gounis
so why not start to rate wiki pages so if anyone want to do something start with most wanted pages ? -- stavros On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 24.11.2003 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is marked that a wiki page is ready to move to CVS? I guess almost every page

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml book.xml index.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Joerg Heinicke On 24.11.2003 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reinhard2003/11/24 09:40:41 Modified:src/documentation/xdocs book.xml index.xml Added: src/documentation/xdocs features.xml Log: - add features list from

RE: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread John Morrison
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 J.

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 19:09 Europe/Zurich, Bruno Dumon a écrit : Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1, welcome Tim! -Bertrand

Re: Woody Rant

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Sorry Antonio, but you absolutely missed my points. I don't want to remove JavaScript or HTML, but I want to have good code - maintainable, readable, understandable, extendible and so on. Especially having the help popups based on the same bad code was one thing I didn't like. I will answer to

Moving docs from Wiki (was : cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml ...)

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 19:22 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ..It's time for Doco because moving content from Wiki to CVS is a very, very, very, very boring job. (Aren't there any tools which could help?)... If you're talking about format conversion, JSPWiki's HTML shouldn't be hard to

Re: Woody Rant

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 22.11.2003 08:55, Antonio Gallardo wrote: IMO Woody should re-focus on form processing. Yes, we should provide a default view, but a simple one. If there must be used any JS as I see it for the calendar or the help popups then it should definitely be done the standard way (i.e. W3C DOM)

Re: Moving docs from Wiki (was : cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml ...)

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 19:22 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ..It's time for Doco because moving content from Wiki to CVS is a very, very, very, very boring job. (Aren't there any tools which could help?)... If you're talking about format conversion,

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs features.xml

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so why not start to rate wiki pages so if anyone want to do something start with most wanted pages ? It is simpler than that. A page gets into the CVS when someone wants to put it there. So if you think a page should be in the CVS, then suggest it here, and if it

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
BTW, when a page is moved, I think we should keep the page on the wiki, and perhaps keep a record of when the last version was committed to CVS. Blowing away docs (like the features list) isn't too useful, especially since I was going to point to the version of the docs in the Wiki, and

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 22.11.2003 14:40, Sylvain Wallez wrote: It's maybe to late in the night to start a rant, but I will do it. Rants are more ranty late in the night ;-) I hear your concerns an try to turn them into constructive criticism. Thanks ... See below: The problem I have with Woody at the moment is,

Re: Scriptable objects with BeanShell

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 21:05 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...From looking at the BeanShell docs, the Java is definitely 'scripted' java, and lacks Java's object orientedness... But what about this example from the BeanShell docs: buttonHandler = new ActionListener() {

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 22.11.2003 18:30, Ugo Cei wrote: I'm with you here. Let's face it, what people are and will be using Woody for is mainly HTML forms, and there's no way you can make a decent form-based application without *lots* of DHTML code. But the current code is not DHTML, but document.write(). For

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 23.11.2003 20:21, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi dijo: At the same time, all the style should happen in the XSLT thus the HTML calendar strings worries me. I think it can be easily addresses by inspecting with XPath if there is a widget with Date datatype. In that way we can

A general Note

2003-11-24 Thread JD Daniels
I just wanted to take moment and thank the cocoon community. Cocoon kicks butt. I make small to medium small business / personal web applications. Nothing fancy, basically alot of xsp + xsl templates (These alone match PHP I think) After the initial learning curve (which seems to extend a bit

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 24950] New: - cocoon.sh script does not invoke Sun JVM = 1.3 with preferred options

2003-11-24 Thread bugzilla
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24950. ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 21:28, Tony Collen wrote: BTW, when a page is moved, I think we should keep the page on the wiki, and perhaps keep a record of when the last version was committed to CVS. Blowing away docs (like the features list) isn't too useful, especially since I was going to point to the

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
Joerg Heinicke wrote: The problem I saw (and because of this I removed the list) are the missing diffs (or the bad usability with it) after further additions to the page are made. Imagine in a half year you want to update the page in the CVS, in the meantime there were 10 changes in the wiki

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Marc Portier
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 Warm welcome to an extra woody-man! -marc= -- Marc Portier

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Marcus Crafter
+1 Cheers, Marcus On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 07:09:57PM +0100, Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me.

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 09:14, Ugo Cei wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: At the same time, all the style should happen in the XSLT thus the HTML calendar strings worries me. I am using another calendar with Woody: http://dynarch.com/mishoo/calendar.epl. As the author says: It works with Mozilla,

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
Tony Collen wrote: BTW, when a page is moved, I think we should keep the page on the wiki, and perhaps keep a record of when the last version was committed to CVS. Blowing away docs (like the features list) isn't too useful, especially since I was going to point to the version of the docs in

Re: A general Note

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
JD Daniels wrote: I just wanted to take moment and thank the cocoon community. Cocoon kicks butt. I make small to medium small business / personal web applications. Nothing fancy, basically alot of xsp + xsl templates (These alone match PHP I think) After the initial learning curve (which seems

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 24950] - cocoon.sh script does not invoke Sun JVM = 1.3 with preferred options

2003-11-24 Thread bugzilla
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24950. ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AND INSERTED IN THE BUG DATABASE.

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 21:55 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...I agree that blowing away docs is bad. However, just leaving them is pretty bad too. IMO, once a doc is moved to CVS, the original wiki page should be replaced by a placeholder, which is where people can place comments about

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 21:55, Upayavira wrote: Tony Collen wrote: BTW, when a page is moved, I think we should keep the page on the wiki, and perhaps keep a record of when the last version was committed to CVS. Blowing away docs (like the features list) isn't too useful, especially since I was going

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 21:58, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...I agree that blowing away docs is bad. However, just leaving them is pretty bad too. IMO, once a doc is moved to CVS, the original wiki page should be replaced by a placeholder, which is where people can place comments about the related page

Re: Scriptable objects with BeanShell

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 21:05 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...From looking at the BeanShell docs, the Java is definitely 'scripted' java, and lacks Java's object orientedness... But what about this example from the BeanShell docs: buttonHandler = new

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:06 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit : ...Would a centralized list of pages that were moved over (along with the last date they were moved) be useful to maintain? If all moved pages point to http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=MovedToCvs then the Referenced by

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:00 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...From that point of view my solution must be really good in your opinion :-) http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFeatures hmmm..maybe we should push a little more towards patches? Instead of If you want to add

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 22:05, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:00 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...From that point of view my solution must be really good in your opinion :-) http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFeatures hmmm..maybe we should push a little

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
Tony Collen wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: The problem I saw (and because of this I removed the list) are the missing diffs (or the bad usability with it) after further additions to the page are made. Imagine in a half year you want to update the page in the CVS, in the meantime there were 10

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Tony Collen
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:00 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...From that point of view my solution must be really good in your opinion :-) http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFeatures hmmm..maybe we should push a little more towards patches?

Re: Scriptable objects with BeanShell

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:02 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...Then I've effectively created a class. But it seems a bit around the houses to me... ok, see your point now, thanks. Don't close the door on scripting stuff too soon though, there's a lot happening with Groovy [1] (not to

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Joerg Heinicke wrote: snip/ Of course. But as I pointed out the current solution is not really cross-browser, but only works for many browsers at the moment because they are backwards compatible. I don't know if you heard of it, but at the time Apple chose Konqueror as the base of Safari they

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Upayavira
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 24.11.2003 21:55, Upayavira wrote: Tony Collen wrote: BTW, when a page is moved, I think we should keep the page on the wiki, and perhaps keep a record of when the last version was committed to CVS. Blowing away docs (like the features list) isn't too useful,

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Ugo Cei
Joerg Heinicke wrote: I'm with you here and would even not add a simple stylesheet. People adding simply a guestbook won't use Cocoon, so it's more or less useless effort. Cocoon Forms has higher aims :-) Sorry if I misunderstood you, but your sentence on focusing on server side form processing

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Welcome aboard, Tim! :-D +1 Antonio Gallardo Bruno Dumon dijo: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work.

Re: Refactoring woody styling (was Re: Woody Rant)

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 22:32, Ugo Cei wrote: Joerg Heinicke wrote: I'm with you here and would even not add a simple stylesheet. People adding simply a guestbook won't use Cocoon, so it's more or less useless effort. Cocoon Forms has higher aims :-) Sorry if I misunderstood you, but your sentence on

Re: [OT] - About MS published schemas

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 19.11.2003 03:43, Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi: I found this interesting article about the recent MS published schemas. And I like to share it with the rest of the community: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34045.html What a frustrating point of view! But I fear to much will be true:

Re: FragmentExtractor: component parameter vs. map:parameter for extract-{uri,element}

2003-11-24 Thread Sebastian Klamar
* Joerg Heinicke [2003-11-24 20:33 +0100] wrote: The change would be really easy as you can see if you have a look at other transformers that are map:parameterizable - something I could even do ;-) But I don't have that much time at the moment. I've done the changes locally. I could post a

Re: FragmentExtractor: component parameter vs. map:parameter for extract-{uri,element}

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
On 24.11.2003 23:04, Sebastian Klamar wrote: * Joerg Heinicke [2003-11-24 20:33 +0100] wrote: The change would be really easy as you can see if you have a look at other transformers that are map:parameterizable - something I could even do ;-) But I don't have that much time at the moment.

Fix for row-action widget docs

2003-11-24 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
Hi! Is it ok to change 'add-below' to 'add-after' on the following Wiki doc for the row-action widget? http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=WoodyWidgetReference#ref-WoodyWidgetReference-9 You'll find it directly below the box. Or do I miss here something ... -- Andreas Hochsteger

Re: A general Note

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
JD Daniels wrote: I just wanted to take moment and thank the cocoon community. Cocoon kicks butt. I make small to medium small business / personal web applications. Nothing fancy, basically alot of xsp + xsl templates (These alone match PHP I think) After the initial learning curve (which seems

Re: Fix for row-action widget docs

2003-11-24 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi! Is it ok to change 'add-below' to 'add-after' on the following Wiki doc for the row-action widget? http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=WoodyWidgetReference#ref-WoodyWidgetReference-9 You'll find it directly below the box. Or do I miss here something ...

Re: Fix for row-action widget docs

2003-11-24 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
Thanks, next time I'll try myself ;-) -- Andreas Hochsteger http://highstick.blogspot.com/ Sylvain Wallez wrote: Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi! Is it ok to change 'add-below' to 'add-after' on the following Wiki doc for the row-action widget?

Re: FirstFriday: 5th or 12th December?

2003-11-24 Thread David Crossley
Joerg Heinicke wrote: Upayavira wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=FirstFriday David (Crossley) says it's going to be on the 12th, is that a typo or is there a good reason? Well, 5th is the first Friday, and I don't see a reason why

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 24457] - Xalan/XSLT using UTF-8: Incorrect SAXException: Attempt to output character of integral value...

2003-11-24 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Problem with CVS of Cocoon-Documentation an Authoring Question

2003-11-24 Thread Joerg Heinicke
I had further discussion with Thomas and we found out, that the reason is the DTD handling of IE. If you view the XML (or HTML) documents in render mode, IE searches for the linked DTD. These links point to the old relative locations of the files, exactly where they were before we switched to

Re: [VOTE] Tim Larson as Cocoon committer

2003-11-24 Thread David Crossley
Bruno Dumon wrote: Tim has been hanging around on our mailing lists for quite some time, and is actively contributing, both in discussions and code. Becoming a committer can only motivate him to keep up the good work. +1 from me. +1 --David

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread David Crossley
Tony Collen wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ..It's time for Doco because moving content from Wiki to CVS is a very, very, very, very boring job. (Aren't there any tools which could help?)... If you're talking about format conversion, JSPWiki's HTML

Re: FragmentExtractor: component parameter vs. map:parameter for extract-{uri,element}

2003-11-24 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Sebastian Klamar wrote: Hi, is there any special intension (configure component once, run many times with less if's for performance issues?) to configure the extract-uri and extract-element for the FragmentExtractorTransformer (batik block) inside map:components instead of to to make them known

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