Re: Migration and consolidation helm charts for ASF projects from helm/charts to apache/charts git

2020-10-16 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Jarek, On 16/10/2020 05:45, Jarek Potiuk wrote: > Joan - I hope you are back and we can continue the discussion. Sorry, I just don't have the time or the energy to carry this further. I only brought up OO because it was one of the outliers, and the first "user application" that came to

Re: [ALC] ALC Indore is set for next event, 'The Apache Day'

2019-09-25 Thread Joan Touzet
to be incorporated in future :) will also > follow the same process. Yeah, I think that's wise, especially if any third parties are involved in paying for any resources, providing space, or seek to sponsor the efforts. > Kindly let me know if I am missing anything :-) > > Thanks again fo

Re: [ALC] ALC Indore is set for next event, 'The Apache Day'

2019-09-25 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Swapnil, On 2019-09-17 6:45, Swapnil M Mane wrote: > Dear all, > > ALC Indore Chapter [2] is pleased to announce the next event for the > local student community, 'The Apache Day'. > The event will be organized on 28 September 2019 at Prestige Institute > of Engineering Management & Research

Re: Please add CouchDB logo to RedBubble

2019-09-15 Thread Joan Touzet
On 2019-09-15 4:44 a.m., Mark Thomas wrote: Hi Joan, I've looked back at the timing and the order was placed before I fixed the issues you highlighted above. Sorry you ended up with T-Shirt that wasn't quite right. No problem! Just wanted to be sure we caught it. I have reviewed all the

Re: Please add CouchDB logo to RedBubble

2019-09-14 Thread Joan Touzet
Oh hai Mark, thanks for responding. On 2019-09-03 1:01 p.m., Mark Thomas wrote: On 02/09/2019 23:40, Joan Touzet wrote: On 2019-08-10 4:36 p.m., Mark Thomas wrote: On 07/08/2019 15:26, Joan Touzet wrote: Just like the subject says. Logo: https://www.apache.org/logos/#couchdb (Version 1

Re: Please add CouchDB logo to RedBubble

2019-09-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Mark, Sorry to be so late getting back to you on this. On 2019-08-10 4:36 p.m., Mark Thomas wrote: On 07/08/2019 15:26, Joan Touzet wrote: Just like the subject says. Logo: https://www.apache.org/logos/#couchdb (Version 1) https://www.redbubble.com/people/comdev/works/40515362-apache

Re: Please add CouchDB logo to RedBubble

2019-08-07 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Sharan - sure! That'd be lovely. I've run out. -Joan On 2019-08-07 1:34 p.m., Sharan Foga wrote: HI Joan Did you want me to order some stickers for Apachecon too? Thanks Sharan On 2019/08/07 14:26:01, Joan Touzet wrote: Just like the subject says. Logo: https://www.apache.org/logos

Please add CouchDB logo to RedBubble

2019-08-07 Thread Joan Touzet
Just like the subject says. Logo: https://www.apache.org/logos/#couchdb (Version 1) Thanks! -Joan "so many stickers" Touzet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Changing the default reporter tool

2019-08-06 Thread Joan Touzet
On 2019-08-06 12:47, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 8/6/19 6:43 PM, Jan Høydahl wrote: >>> 6. aug. 2019 kl. 17:35 skrev Daniel Gruno : Another question - I don't see mailing list stats for the list solr-u...@lucene.apache.org , what is the logic behind

Re: New board report wizard, feedback welcome!

2019-08-01 Thread Joan Touzet
On 2019-08-01 11:06, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 8/1/19 2:19 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> I've tried out the tool. I can see it being useful for some projects, >> and should be available as a choice. >> >> However, I would not use it as it is, and hope the existing reporter >> gets upgraded,

Re: Focused effort on Apache Way education

2019-07-17 Thread Joan Touzet
Hey y'all, On 2019-07-17 7:53, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> On Jul 17, 2019, at 2:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 1:11 AM Dave Fisher wrote: >>> ...I’d like to see the Apache Way described like Euclidean Geometry >> >> I have no clue what this would look like

Re: New inter-project Mailinglist i...@apache.org created

2019-07-05 Thread Joan Touzet
https://projects.apache.org/projects.html has the ability to filter projects by category. I believe actually assigning categories to your project was something we did last year, in advance of the fantastic T-Shirt design for ACNA 2018. Unfortunately, there are only 3 self-tagged IOT projects:

Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D committee

2019-05-04 Thread Joan Touzet
Not sure if it's binding (I'm not on the ComDev PMC) but +1 from me. -Joan On 2019-05-04 7:52 p.m., Ross Gardler wrote: +1 From: Shane Curcuru Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Paul Berschick as Committer

2019-04-23 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Paul - congratulations, and thank you for all your hard work! On 2019-04-23 7:19, Myrle Krantz wrote: > Hey all, > > Please welcome Paul Berschick as a committer for community development. He > helped us put together the Apache Roadshow in Berlin last year, doing > everything from booking

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Gris Cuevas as new PMC member

2019-04-23 Thread Joan Touzet
Welcome, Gris! I don't need to expect great things, because they've already happened. -Joan On 2019-04-23 7:26, Myrle Krantz wrote: > Hey all, > > Please welcome Gris Cuevas as the newest member of the Community > Development PMC. > > Gris is helping out representing Apache at various

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Joan Touzet
On 2019-04-17 9:04 p.m., Griselda Cuevas wrote: I want to understand how we see and value the topic since I consider it an important influencer in the D topic. More clearly - some projects are not diverse on the commercial vendor affiliation dimension, which can create an environment not so

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Joan Touzet
Sorry for the self-reply, this sentence: On 2019-04-17 18:04, Joan Touzet wrote: > The danger in writing it down is that it will change people's > opinions of . should read: > the situation by implying the corporate relationship itself is what > is driving the decision making, w

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Joan Touzet
Sorry for the self-reply, this sentence: On 2019-04-17 18:04, Joan Touzet wrote: > The danger in writing it down is that it will change people's > opinions of . should read: > the situation by implying the corporate relationship itself is what > is driving the decision making, w

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-17 Thread Joan Touzet
I'm generally in agreement with Rich, Jim, Shane, Sam and the other "grey beards" who have responded on this thread already. We recognize the individual, not the company, and the individual gets the merit. That said, there are always rumours and scuttlebutt floating around of this sort: "If

Re: Feature request: Git/GH Issues in reporter.apache.org ?

2019-04-10 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Sebastian, > From: "sebb" > > I believe reporter only currently pulls down commit statistics > > from svn, > > Does it? Where is that presented?. My mistake! I saw the commits@ mailing lists and realized that this only shows what got sent to the mailing list. It's a stand-in for now at

Feature request: Git/GH Issues in reporter.apache.org ?

2019-04-10 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi everyone, As a newly-elected board member, I'm discovering a blind spot in the reporter.apache.org tool, specifically for projects that have transitioned to git for version control and GitHub issues for issue management. I believe reporter only currently pulls down commit statistics from svn,

Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-04 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Maxim, > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" > To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019 > > If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD > We nee

Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-04 Thread Joan Touzet
> From: "Maxim Solodovnik" > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:20:55 AM > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019 > > Hello Adina, > > This make sense > > But these 1 or 2 tech writers will select from project ideas > They can't just write

Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

2019-04-03 Thread Joan Touzet
Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those groups to be individually reaching out on those topics. -Joan - Original Message

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Griselda Cuevas wrote: > @joan - I also get a Pony, I requested the Jira ;) Of course you do! (Use a monospace font for best rendering...) ,--, _ ___/ /\| ;( )__, ) ; // '--; \ | ^^ -Joan "Caaan do!" Touzet

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Daniel wrote: > Requested, and should be ready within an hour or two. Thank you! You get a pony! -Joan "JFDI" Touzet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Daniel Gruno said: > On 02/04/2019 11.34, Joan Touzet wrote: > > Daniel said: > >> On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >>> On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote: > >>>> Trying to cut through the bikeshedding: > >>>> > &g

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Daniel said: > On 02/04/2019 11.29, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > On 02/04/2019 11.26, Joan Touzet wrote: > >> Trying to cut through the bikeshedding: > >> > >> Daniel Gruno said: > >>> I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) a

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Trying to cut through the bikeshedding: Daniel Gruno said: > I'd recommend a separate mailing list (to provide focus) and a JIRA, > perhaps some place to put documents (either within the comdev svn > area, > or somewhere else if spun off), and then...just get to work :) This is what Griselda

Re: Building and Sustaining Inclusive Communities (was: on "meritocracy")

2019-03-30 Thread Joan Touzet
Thanks for this post, Shane. You share a number of my concerns. I am absolutely not blind to opposition to some of the things I've suggested, but I would argue that the thread on the topic has become so negative and heated that informed discussion isn't useful. Again I encourage others to listen

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-29 Thread Joan Touzet
"Wade Chandler" wrote: > On one hand an organization “can” actively keep > people out based on personal attributes; intentional negative & bad; > don’t see this here; if you do, please give direct links; most will > certainly see that the same. Naming and shaming in a public forum isn't a good

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-29 Thread Joan Touzet
> TL;DR: identify a list of tangible deliverables, and I'll help you > make it happen. In the interest of not losing sight of the meritocracy debate, along with the D work (which I'm happy to engage on, someone sign me up), we need to actually solve the original "meritocracy" problem. I proposed

Re: Help us understand the effects of developers' personality on collaboration in OSS development

2019-03-29 Thread Joan Touzet
Did they even ask us to help put them in touch with people? How did they pick who they were going to email? Can anyone take point in contacting their IRB and, well, not to put a too fine a point on it: ratting them out? This certainly was done without approval. And I don't know how they

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-25 Thread Joan Touzet
I'm travelling and on holiday this week, but my $0.02: Stop trying to find a single word for what we mean. It's too subtle: > >   When using the word 'Meritocracy', is is important to > >   explain on which merits the meritocracy is based : > >   -- community building > >   -- software

Re: Use GitLab, not GitHub

2019-02-18 Thread Joan Touzet
Julian asked: > Re. "owning our data": we do own our source code but what about all > the conversational metadata in GH? In the Subversion project we have > a GH mirror of the code but pull requests and code comments etc. in > GH aren't even copied to the Subversion PMC mailing lists, apart >

Re: Best ways to reach out ASF community to participate in research?

2019-02-01 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Aizhamal, There have been a few mishaps recently with misuse/abuse of other channels for this type of survey, so I think keeping it to dev@community for the moment is probably best. (Details aren't relevant.) Of course, as you analyse your data, you will need to take into consideration that

Re: [RB] Working on Reproducible Builds for ASF projects

2019-01-26 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Hervé, Apache CouchDB is very interested in this - and have made significant strides towards reproducible builds already, including our Dockerhub image build process. However, because of our very complex build environment and toolchains, especially on Windows, we're not a "slam dunk" like a

Re: Proposed process for recognizing *Non-Technical* Contributions

2019-01-21 Thread Joan Touzet
"Mark Thomas" wrote: > On 21/01/2019 17:59, Roy Lenferink wrote: > > CNCF is using a bot on their GitHub repositories which adds a label > > to > > every pull request whether the contributor has a cla on file > > [1][2]. > > More info on this here [3] > > The cla label is checked before the PR

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Myrle Krantz as a new PMC member

2019-01-08 Thread Joan Touzet
Congrats Myrle - very well deserved. - Original Message - > From: "Sharan Foga" > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Tuesday, 8 January, 2019 4:33:34 PM > Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Welcome Myrle Krantz as a new PMC member > > The Community Development PMC has invited Myrle Krantz to become

Re: Feedback requested: New committer invitation template

2018-12-30 Thread Joan Touzet
Nice work, Daniel - that should definitely be incorporated. It's a big improvement over a template that a human has to review before In addition to this, we over at CouchDB found the intro text a bit too forceful for our tastes - too much guilt tripping and expectation setting. It's also in our

Re: Why are large code drops damaging to a community?

2018-11-03 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Myrle, Thanks for starting this topic, and thanks to everyone else who has shared their stories. I'd like to bring up another scenario that is all-too-common in the larger Apache projects: commercial "value-added" versions that find their way back to the ASF after some time. I know this has

Re: Discussions in pull requests vs. dev list (was: The Apache Way and good developers...)

2018-11-02 Thread Joan Touzet
We also use them successfully on CouchDB and I don't see the problem here. We do route these notifications to notifications@, not dev@. My email client properly threads multiple comments on the same PR. Another option is to use the GitHub "watch" functionality on a repository, which can provide

Re: Request for Participation in University of Cincinnati - Open Source Survey

2018-11-01 Thread Joan Touzet
I got spammed, clicked the "unsubscribe" link, and received only a webpage confirmation. Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/uePkDgE.png Privacy Policy and Security Statement both go to a third party, Qualtrics. As a university research in a previous phase of my life, I'm pretty upset with their

Re: IMPORTANT: OSS Employment Survey - Now Open to Self-Employed and Retired

2018-10-22 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Kevin, I tried to run the survey three times today, once from each of the major web browsers. As soon as I check both boxes and press Next, I am forwarded to the end of the survey. I don't think this is intended. I'm holding off on forwarding the link to the CouchDB dev@ list until I hear

Re: Dev vs User Mailing Lists

2018-10-17 Thread Joan Touzet
Thanks for the info, Bertrand. Mailing lists can be just as exclusive as semi-synchronous environments. They may not work for your community, but they work for ours, and removing them will necessarily disadvantage many contributors. I'm firmly of the opinion that you can't completely ignore

Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-02 Thread Joan Touzet
One problem with such an approach is that by lengthening the survey, you end up with more "drop-outs," i.e., people who don't finish the complete survey. This means that you have a reduced sample set. I believe the 2016 survey didn't count any partial responses, which is typically good practice

Re: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey

2018-10-01 Thread Joan Touzet
+1, let me know how I can help. - Original Message - From: "Sharan Foga" To: dev@community.apache.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 5:30:10 AM Subject: [DISCUSSION] Running another ASF Committer Diversity Survey Hi All It’s been nearly 2 years since we ran our ASF Committer Diversity

Re: Apache access to RHEL equivalent of MSDN?

2018-08-10 Thread Joan Touzet
is freely available to all open source projects, and is a great way to get testing done, as well as to get packages into RHEL, via CentOS. As for the RH Connect for Technology Partners, I must admit that I know absolutely nothing about it, but I can ask around. --Rich On 08/10/2018 10:14 AM, Joan To

Apache access to RHEL equivalent of MSDN?

2018-08-10 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi folks, I know we have a few RedHat people on this list (Hi Rich!) Does Apache have access to the RH Connect for Technology Partners programme for *@apache.org committers? We've received a few reports of problems with RHEL vs. CentOS, and it'd be easiest to nail this down if we could add

Re: ApacheCon "ads" on project sites - Help wanted

2018-04-18 Thread Joan Touzet
- Original Message - From: "sebb" > Agreed it's better than nothing but: > - it's a change from previous advice > - AFAICT it's undocumented It's documented by nature of the link on line 19 of: http://apache.org/events/README.txt which links to the

Re: Building release artifacts for an Apache project on docker container

2017-11-01 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi Nandish, CouchDB's reading of the policy suggests that it needs to be done on HW controlled by you or the ASF: https://apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#owned-controlled-hardware As such, we only auto-generate binaries through Apache Jenkins CI, or directly on developer workstations/VMs

Re: Introducing code owners

2017-07-10 Thread Joan Touzet
Cookie licking is the term I prefer, too. It's very well defined here: http://communitymgt.wikia.com/wiki/Cookie_Licking -Joan - Original Message - From: "Rich Bowen" To: dev@community.apache.org Sent: Monday, 10 July, 2017 9:03:33 AM Subject: Re: Introducing code

Re: Test Suite progress report (2017-05-07)

2017-05-07 Thread Joan Touzet
Apologies all, wrong dev@ mailing list. -Joan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org

Test Suite progress report (2017-05-07)

2017-05-07 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi everyone, With a recent fix to the startup process (fix race condition on creating _dbs), our test failure count has gone down a lot. However we are still getting enough failures that approximately 1 in every 5 test suite runs in our CI infrastructure are failing. I am still asking for

Re: Vetoes for New Committers??

2017-03-28 Thread Joan Touzet
Shane said: > But the CouchDB ones look great - and it seems a number of projects > have > already copied them. IT would be a neat project to take those bylaws > and check them someplace as a "here's a sample set of bylaws to start > with" in Incubator land, so podlings have an example. I bet if

Re: Vetoes for New Committers??

2017-03-28 Thread Joan Touzet
Apache CouchDB does not allow vetos on new committer votes. You can read our policy on all vote types here: https://couchdb.apache.org/bylaws.html#types I encourage all other projects to make public a similar summary of their guidelines. This table alone has helped eliminate a LOT of

Re: Gamifying user lists

2017-02-10 Thread Joan Touzet
CouchDB tried AdvocateHub for a while. It's not the best solution but it is something like what you're asking for. -Joan - Original Message - > From: "Denis Magda" > To: dev@community.apache.org > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 7:35:46 PM > Subject: Gamifying user

Re: Diversity: How many disabled people are at Apache

2016-12-14 Thread Joan Touzet
Missed one reference I really wanted to include. This paper, which won the ASQ Award for Scholarly Contribution in 2007: http://web.mit.edu/cortiz/www/Diversity/Ely%20and%20Thomas,%202001.pdf This article is especially important because it contrasts and compares three perspectives on diversity:

Re: Diversity: How many disabled people are at Apache

2016-12-14 Thread Joan Touzet
Rich Bowen said: > On 12/13/2016 08:59 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Now, this is what I know as "equality in opportunity" and is why I > > am > > somewhat skeptical to efforts focused on increasing so called > > diversity for > > the sake of diversity, also known as "equality in outcome". > >

Re: Encouraging Diversity - Update 6

2016-11-11 Thread Joan Touzet
- Original Message - > From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" > > Note that in the meantime there's > https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct - IMO it's better > if projects use that one, and if needed contribute improvements to > it. I will note that CouchDB's

Re: Addition to the project maturity model

2016-09-28 Thread Joan Touzet
Big +1 here. Projects that can't be repeatably built risk decay faster than those that can. Given the needs of some build chains (especially Windows, in my experience) I also endorse the fact that this does not specifically call out /automated/ builds, though projects should be striving to

FOSSology - any recent experiences?

2016-09-02 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi everyone, Apache CouchDB is about to make their big 2.0 release. As part of final due diligence we're double-checking all of our dependencies for licenses. Based on prior experiences, I recommended our team leverage FOSSology (https://www.fossology.org/), an open source tool I've used before

Re: Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions

2016-08-27 Thread Joan Touzet
7:18:48 AM > Subject: Re: Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions > > +1, change looks good. There are always areas in ComDev that can use > editorial improvements if you've got some more time... 8-) > > - Shane > > (Both emails came thru BTW) >

Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions

2016-08-26 Thread Joan Touzet
(Trying again from the correct email address) Hi all, Based on a discussion with other ASF members about improving our new committer templates and guidelines, I tried to commit a change to this page: https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html Apparently I do not have permissions to

Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions

2016-08-26 Thread Joan Touzet
Hi all, Based on a discussion with other ASF members about improving our new committer templates and guidelines, I tried to commit a change to this page: https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html Apparently I do not have permissions to publish the change to the public. You can view the