Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-25 Thread Steven Gill
] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-25 Thread Michal Mocny
...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Mocny
] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Mocny
...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Steven Gill
? -Chuck -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Mocny
plugins? -Chuck -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Andrew Grieve
AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior of peerDependencies in npm@3. We won't be automatically downloading the peer dependency

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Mocny
to upgrade to install any new plugins? -Chuck -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Andrew Grieve
, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior of peerDependencies in npm@3. We

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-23 Thread Michal Mocny
? -Chuck -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-19 Thread Carlos Santana
:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior of peerDependencies in npm@3. We won’t be automatically downloading the peer dependency anymore. Instead, we’ll warn you

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-17 Thread Michal Mocny
FYI since its perhaps relevant to npm transition (from npm weekly notes): We will also be changing the behavior of peerDependencies in npm@3. We won’t be automatically downloading the peer dependency anymore. Instead, we’ll warn you if the peer dependency isn’t already installed. This requires

RE: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-17 Thread Chuck Lantz
simply telling people they have to upgrade to install any new plugins? -Chuck -Original Message- From: mmo...@google.com [mailto:mmo...@google.com] On Behalf Of Michal Mocny Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition FYI since its perhaps

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Query, you say, if we use the mapper module - is there a chance that may not happen, and in 3+ months, folks who do cordova plugin add org.apache.cordova.something will get an error? Sorry if that's a dumb question, not 100% sure what the mapper module entails. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:39 PM,

RE: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-13 Thread Treggiari, Leo
] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:48 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition I agree with Steve to move forward with this. The package name rationale was already discussed during the hangout, and we all agreed. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Steven Gill

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-13 Thread Andrew Grieve
(or some other source of metadata) for a 'cloud' Cordova build system. Thanks, Leo -Original Message- From: Shazron [mailto:shaz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:48 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition I agree with Steve to move

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Steven Gill
We don't have one yet but we should pick dates soon. How about: CPR Switch to read only: Monday, May 18th NPM fetch becomes default: Monday, May 18th CPR offline: Monday, August 17th Based on the following proposal:

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Michal Mocny
Steve, npm fetch default only affects plugins that use same name in both places, right? If we create cordova-plugin-device today, and tell users to start using cordova plugin add cordova-plugin-device, then we will get much user feedback on npm fetching far before May 18th, right? On Wed, Feb

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Steven Gill
Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we will try to fetch from npm. If users run cordova plugin add cordova-plugin-device, it would hit CPR, fail, go to npm, succeed. If we use the mapper module, cordova plugin add org.apache.cordova.device would be

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Andrew Grieve
Going to try and summarize my concerns with the proposal here: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we will try to fetch from npm. If users run cordova plugin add

RE: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Treggiari, Leo
that? Is the name change really necessary - why can't we stick with the current names? Thanks, Leo -Original Message- From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:40 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Michal Mocny
with the current names? Thanks, Leo -Original Message- From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:40 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Michal Mocny
, 2015 11:40 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we will try to fetch from npm. If users run cordova plugin add cordova-plugin-device, it would hit CPR, fail, go to npm, succeed

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Michal Mocny
I would agree that we should change plugin ID as well as package name, but I don't think that affects the results. All 3 of those use cases you mentioned I think are addressed equivalently. Whether the plugin is added as a dependency, with save/restore, or explicitly from the command line,

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Gorkem Ercan
On 11 Feb 2015, at 13:09, Steven Gill wrote: We don't have one yet but we should pick dates soon. How about: CPR Switch to read only: Monday, May 18th NPM fetch becomes default: Monday, May 18th CPR offline: Monday, August 17th I was hoping for a longer read-only period, 6 months would be

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Steven Gill
names? Thanks, Leo -Original Message- From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:40 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Gorkem Ercan
@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we will try to fetch from npm. If users run cordova plugin add cordova-plugin-device, it would hit CPR, fail, go to npm, succeed. If we use the mapper

Re: Schedule for npm transition

2015-02-11 Thread Shazron
[mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 11:40 AM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Schedule for npm transition Correct! For the first 3 months, all requests will hit CPR first, if CPR fails, we will try to fetch from npm. If users run cordova plugin add cordova-plugin