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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:14 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: ApacheCon Slides
Hi,
Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most
efficient way to make money selling RIAs and mobile apps, some of those
folks will come back.
My
I would like to see FlexJS advertised more as a way to expand Flex, rather
than to replace ActionScript or Flash.
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
Ok, I will remove the Flash-based solutions no
On 3/26/14 7:56 AM, Kessler CTR Mark J mark.kessler@usmc.mil wrote:
We have 15 applications in total. These are all web based flex/flash
based medium business level applications that are data driven. It is
unrealistic for us to do a large conversion to JS of any type at this
point.
I'm definitely not a marketing person so suggestions are welcome. We
should probably start another thread on it. I like the FlexJS name right
now because I think it is important to get the attention of the JS
developers, but maybe there's a better or additional tag line besides
Flex for
I looked into this slide:
Why FlexJS?
Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser
Adobe AIR used to run on most computers
Executives no longer carry Flash-capable devices
AIR apps require installation and upgrades
AIR apps have some fidelity issues
Flash-based solutions no longer desirable
Yes, I agree with you.
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De : Deepak MS [mailto:megharajdee...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 07:52
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
I looked into this slide:
Why FlexJS?
Adobe Flash Player used to be in every browser Adobe AIR used to run
Hi,
@Deepak MS Flex is so popular - I don't think so, maybe in US or China. Here
in Poland I got serious difficulties to found proper job as a Flex developer
2 months ago and had to move to another city because of that.
More over I got one talk with some of the global outsourcing company and
some
Few remarks:
Slide 6: Native Applications = Native mobile applications , to avoid the
confusion with AIR apps.
Slide 7:
Desktop + Web + Mobile
Slide 8:
the green smiley should not cover the flex logo
Slide 9:
IntelliJ ultimate = I think the correct name is IDEA IntelliJ (ultimate
version
Von: Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com
Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2014 23:58
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: Re: ApacheCon Slides
Hi,
I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Building%2
0Enterprise%20Level%20Applications
Von: Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:37
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides
What software are you using for the slides? Powerpoint ?
Maurice
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De : Christofer Dutz
Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:35
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides
Few remarks:
Slide 6: Native Applications = Native mobile applications , to avoid the
confusion with AIR apps.
Slide 7:
Desktop + Web + Mobile
Slide 8:
the green smiley
that?
But thanks for the Feedback ... I'll probably update the slides this evening.
Chris
Von: Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 10:35
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides
Few remarks:
Slide 6
Hi,
Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping
that dam shadow ;-)
Know what you mean I open have many stand back I'm using photoshop moments :-)
Justin
: ApacheCon Slides
Hi,
Have to admit that it seems to be easier to extend Flexmojos than dropping
that dam shadow ;-)
Know what you mean I open have many stand back I'm using photoshop moments :-)
Justin
: Dienstag, 25. März 2014 11:19
An: dev@flex.apache.org
Betreff: RE: ApacheCon Slides
What did you want to Point out on slide 11?
I mean skinning is on the appearance, not on the behavior.
So the word usability may be confusing.
Usually, you use skins to change the size, color, layout, etc.
So
While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more
related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex for folks with
established Flex projects. There was a whole market of independent
consultants/contractors who were making good money creating Flex apps for
more than
Ok, I will remove the Flash-based solutions no longer desirable
Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the Flex without
Flash?
-Alex
On 3/24/14 11:52 PM, Deepak MS megharajdee...@gmail.com wrote:
I looked into this slide:
Why FlexJS?
Adobe Flash Player used to be in every
?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 17:34
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more
related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex
On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
We'll know we are truly on our way to success when we start hearing
from those folks again.
I agree with the first sentence : I also think current users of Apache
Flex are related to established Flex projects, that moved
:-)
Maurice
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De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2014 19:49
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
On 3/25/14 11:07 AM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
We'll know we are truly on our way to success when we
Hi,
Anybody besides Maurice think I need to change or remove the Flex without
Flash?
Yes IMO as FlexJS is not really Flex as people understand it.
Justin
Hi,
While we should be proud of our install numbers, I think they may be more
related to the transition from Adobe Flex to Apache Flex for folks with
established Flex projects.
That's probably correct but we have seen increasing numbers of installs for
each version released.
There was a
Hi,
Maybe I am too idealistic, but I think if FlexJS does become the most
efficient way to make money selling RIAs and mobile apps, some of those
folks will come back.
My option on this is this:
Unless it's a drop in 1 for 1 replacement I don't think the take up is going to
be huge. People
My 2 cents:
I see no reason for folks to not adopt FlexJS, if we do good marketing.
Also, I had voiced this opinion earlier - FlexJS is a new SDK being built
from scratch. Forgetting the JS part, it is a chance to right a lot of
wrongs that have been accumulated with the current Flex SDK (which
I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex Mobile:
- New components/features (Mobile Grid, Scrollable text)
- iOS7 status bar support
- Support for low res (120DPI) and hi-res (480, 640 DPI) devices
- CSS-Media queries for OS version
- CSS-Media queries for device dimensions
-
Looks good @Alex.
I just hope that the full session, including the apps on your demo for
both sessions would be available to everyone after the event.
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
bigosma...@gmail.comwrote:
I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex
For FlexJS, it would be nice if you can use the beads/strands diagrams from
here [1]
They do a good job of explaining the concepts visually.
Thanks,
Om
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Creating+Components
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
Flex.pdf
Page 6: Eclipse-based IDE = not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc..)
Overall, the impression it gave me is that it's not describing what's
happening in Apache Flex Project, but rather an advertisement to attract new
developers by telling them
Hey, there is not only AS in Flex, there are
On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote:
Flex.pdf
Page 6: Eclipse-based IDE = not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc..)
Overall, the impression it gave me is that it's not describing what's
happening in Apache Flex Project, but rather an advertisement to attract
new
+1 for the mobile improvements
-Message d'origine-
De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:13
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
I would like to see mention of all the activities around Flex
Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for
folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my
360|Stack slides that tries to show the class substitution done by the
compiler
-Message d'origine-
De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:42
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com wrote:
Flex.pdf
Page 6: Eclipse-based IDE = not only (IDEA, FlashDevelop, etc
Hi,
Hmm. I think the whole point of FlexJS is to create a framework that runs
without Flash and a key factor is the impact from decisions and statements
made by Jobs and Adobe. Are you saying that enough time has passed that
these decisions and statements are no longer a factor?
IMO
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece for
folks attending a 45 minute session. I do have another diagram from my
On 3/24/14 3:21 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala bigosma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote:
Thanks for the feedback. That diagram is a bit lower-level than I was
going to go, but I'm interested to hear why that's an important piece
for
folks
.
Thanks,
Om
Maurice
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De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 21:42
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
On 3/24/14 1:30 PM, Maurice Amsellem maurice.amsel...@systar.com
wrote:
Flex.pdf
Page 6: Eclipse
and Android.
It happened around me many times.
WDYT?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23:28
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM
Hi,
I just uploaded my stuf a few minutes ago:
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Building%20Enterprise%20Level%20Applications%20with%20Apache%20Flex%20and%20Java-v9-20140313_1547.pdf
Lots of info + liking the positive tone you have going there :-)
You may want to
Chris, a couple of points:
1. You seem to switch between the terms 'Flex SDK' and 'FDK' midpoint in
the presentation. I think we should all be consistently using the term
'Flex SDK'.
2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000
installs of the Flex SDK since we started
.
Thanks,
Om
WDYT?
Maurice
-Message d'origine-
De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash
Muppirala
Envoyé : lundi 24 mars 2014 23:28
À : dev@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: ApacheCon Slides
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Maurice Amsellem
Hi,
Also I think both slide decks need a little more branding (Apache Flex and ASF
logos) and of course the trademark statement and a link to flex.a.o wouldn't go
astray.
Remember more than just attendees of ApacheCon will see these.
Thanks,
Justin
Hi,
2. The numbers on slide 32 is a outdated. We have more than 40,000
installs of the Flex SDK since we started keeping track.
BTW where do you get the 40,000 number from. I can only see 30,000 in the
google stats. That only include 4.9 and up are you including 4.8 in that and if
so how
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