Oh! right, I missed out observing! that IRC logs are hosted on a third party
site and relying on them would be unacceptable. I also see why
http://geronimo.apache.org/get-involved.html pages mentions discussions on
IRC being informal :-) . Things are clear straight now. Thanks Jacek for
bringing
On Feb 16, 2008 8:30 AM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 15, 2008 1:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is
created for this. We can use this, as well as IRC chats dev-list
mails,
for
On Feb 20, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 16, 2008 8:30 AM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Feb 15, 2008 1:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is
created for this. We can use
Alright there is no option left now I guess ;-)
--
Thanks,
Shiva
On Feb 20, 2008 6:34 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 20, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 16, 2008 8:30 AM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 15, 2008 1:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H
On Feb 20, 2008 5:35 AM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alright there is no option left now I guess ;-)
No and thanks for your understanding. I'm pretty certain people would
appreciate it (I will certainly).
Jacek
--
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl
I know kevan already responded but this is important... so I'm
saying the same thing again...
On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 16, 2008 8:30 AM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Feb 15, 2008 1:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GEP
I'm interested in 2) Geronimo Eclipse Plug-in (GEP):
a) Model
framework for Geronimo deployment plans and I'd like
to contribute to
this. Shiva, let's work together for this. :-)
--YunFeng
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in
reference to this:
i)
Wow! Thanks so much YunFeng! for joining.
GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is
created for this. We can use this, as well as IRC chats dev-list mails,
for collaborating!
Thanks again,
Shiva
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, YunFeng Ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 15, 2008 1:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
GEP Task https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMODEVTOOLS-278 is
created for this. We can use this, as well as IRC chats dev-list mails,
for collaborating!
Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any important stuff around it.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll be
rolling them into Geronimo. There are
On Feb 13, 2008 4:57 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:36 PM, David Jencks wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects
On Feb 13, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 13, 2008 1:56 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll
Nice to see your priorities :) more so config.ser-xml OSGI ones.
On Feb 11, 2008 9:50 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Replace as much as possible of the gbean infrastructure with xbean-reflect
Remove the necessity of specifying gbean metadata in java code (GBeanInfo)
Replace
On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
yes, the bottom
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jarek Gawor wrote:
I like this list but I think we should first focus on features that
directly impact the end-user experience with G. For example,
considering the first three items on this list, the 3rd one has the
most impact on the end user and therefore in my mind it should have
higher
I think dain may have something up his sleeve in xbean-reflect that
will make points 1-3 much easier if we start with 1. Time will tell.
thanks
david jencks
On Feb 11, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Jarek Gawor wrote:
I like this list but I think we should first focus on features that
directly impact
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:36 PM, David Jencks wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll
be rolling
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll
be rolling them into Geronimo. There are also new specifications
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Kevan Miller wrote:
Server assembly -- We could look at simplifying this process. You
currently must have application plugins in order to include
application capabilities in a server assembly. Why not export
based on one or more installed
On Feb 13, 2008 1:56 AM, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll be
rolling them into Geronimo. There are also new
Kevan Miller wrote:
Server assembly -- We could look at simplifying this process. You
currently must have application plugins in order to include application
capabilities in a server assembly. Why not export based on one or more
installed applications? Also, in addition to our current,
Things that I haven't seen mentioned, yet:
EE 6 -- we should be seeing an initial EE 6 spec, soon. As other
projects begin implementing EE 6 capabilities, I expect that we'll be
rolling them into Geronimo. There are also new specifications which we
may need to implement ourselves. I know
David Jencks wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL
David Jencks wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL
I like the idea of a tree. The headings for each category are descriptive
enough that I
don't think we'd lose usability by hiding what's under each category until
needed.
On Feb 12, 2008 11:35 AM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Hernan Cunico wrote:
I'm hoping it's just configuration options that need to be exposed in
Geronimo.
For DataSources, it's just an updated TranQL code that supports db
clusters and connection failovers.
For ActiveMQ, no idea, as I haven't played around with it yet.
Just throwing out thoughts
-Donald
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008 10:12 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is
On Feb 11, 2008 11:35 AM, Jarek Gawor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here are some of my thoughts:
1) Tests and testing. We need to write more tests especially
functional tests as a group. I can list a number of cases where simple
changes caused things to break but we didn't find out about it
On Feb 11, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
yes, the bottom of the plugin page. Also there's a gshell command
for it
david jencks
On 12/02/2008, at 3:05 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
- Continued work on enable full clustering of all components
Hello Donald,
Could you please list the top two components you would like to see
clustered?
JMS and DataSource
Replace as much as possible of the gbean infrastructure with xbean-
reflect
Remove the necessity of specifying gbean metadata in java code
(GBeanInfo)
Replace config.ser with xml
Improve maven integration and use maven components and concepts where
possible. For instance, the
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think a
very
Excellent list, especially getting rid of the config.ser files.
-Donald
David Jencks wrote:
Replace as much as possible of the gbean infrastructure with xbean-reflect
Remove the necessity of specifying gbean metadata in java code (GBeanInfo)
Replace config.ser with xml
Improve maven
In-line below.
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think
Here are some of my thoughts:
1) Tests and testing. We need to write more tests especially
functional tests as a group. I can list a number of cases where simple
changes caused things to break but we didn't find out about it until a
few weeks later. I'm not talking about very complicated tests,
On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.
- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as
an after thought when we are trying to close out a release.
-
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.
- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as an
after thought when we are trying to close out a release.
- Samples become a prerequisite of each new release.
-
On Feb 11, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
Despite my liking for xmlbeans and
In-line
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 12/02/2008, at 3:05 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
- Continued work on enable full clustering of all components
Hello Donald,
Could you please list the top two components you would like to see
In-line below.
Gianny Damour wrote:
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.
- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as an
after thought when we are trying to close out a release.
- Samples become a prerequisite of each new
On Feb 8, 2008 3:22 PM, Manu George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the point in having geronimo specific annotations? AFAIK there
is a mappedName attribute in the javaEE annotations which can be used
for mapping to server specific resource names. Is this completely
implemented in G?
On Feb 8, 2008 2:09 PM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3a is implemented in 2.1
Is there an admin console page for this already implemented?
Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think a very
strong argument can be made for moving the deployer code to jaxb.
On Feb 10, 2008 11:29 PM, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 9, 2008 12:02 PM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to re-list all our
achievements
I like this list but I think we should first focus on features that
directly impact the end-user experience with G. For example,
considering the first three items on this list, the 3rd one has the
most impact on the end user and therefore in my mind it should have
higher priority then the other
On Feb 9, 2008 12:02 PM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to re-list all our
achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007
I hope to summarize the input collected on this thread in a few days. Let
us introduce some practices that we would love everybody to follow, but as
always it is up to the individual.
++Vamsi
On Feb 10, 2008 11:33 PM, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 10, 2008 9:59 AM,
On Feb 10, 2008 9:59 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In most cases, we have an associated JIRA for a new feature or a major bug
fix. How about we designate the JIRA as resolved only after the related
documentation is in place? Many a time we verify the code before closing
3a is implemented in 2.1
Despite my liking for xmlbeans and its unique strengths I think a
very strong argument can be made for moving the deployer code to jaxb.
thanks
david jencks
On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:30 AM, Shiva Kumar H R wrote:
I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in
I can immediately remember 3 prior discussions in reference to this:
i) [DISCUSS/FEEDBACK] Usability improvements to Geronimo mail from
Prasad in Nov'07
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg53236.html
ii) [Discuss] What next? mail from DJencks in Aug'07
My picks:
1. Documentation: I want to see more users attracted to use Geronimo and
documentation definitely plays a very important role.
2. Security: GBean permissions, better handling of passwords
++Vamsi
On Feb 7, 2008 9:46 PM, Hernan Cunico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Vamsi,
great
What is the point in having geronimo specific annotations? AFAIK there
is a mappedName attribute in the javaEE annotations which can be used
for mapping to server specific resource names. Is this completely
implemented in G? Probably someone with more knowledge on this than me
can comment :).
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.
- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as an
after thought when we are trying to close out a release.
- Samples become a prerequisite of each new release.
- Project mentoring - have several of us pick another open source
project to
On 09/02/2008, at 12:43 AM, Donald Woods wrote:
Agree with 1a, all of #2 and 3b.
- Creating documentation when new features go into svn instead as
an after thought when we are trying to close out a release.
- Samples become a prerequisite of each new release.
- Project mentoring - have
On Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM, Vamsavardhana Reddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geronimo had a great year 2007. I don't need to re-list all our
achievements listed in Matt's mail from 31st Dec 2007
(http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@geronimo.apache.org/msg54994.html). Now
that 2.1 is also rolling out, I
Hey Vamsi,
great start, here are two things I would like to see some discussion around.
- increase focus on improving usability and
- treat documentation as any other module/component of the project. Having it
complete should be a condition for any major release.
Cheers!
Hernan
Vamsavardhana
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