the polling of a log file is
probably also not a good idea because someone may change this to
affect the log level *after* a programmatic call.
I agree. Maybe we should remove the setter.
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have this talk around a
whiteboard! :)
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this will never get finished :-)
Right, off to read those papers now - thanks for your posting and
your interest,
Jules
Hope this helps
andy
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it off to a file for reference when debugging a
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Thoughts?
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Not hearing any objections I went ahead and created a patch with what I
described below.
See JIRA http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-846 for the patch
itself.
Joe Bohn wrote:
I'd like to go ahead and create a JIRA issue for this problem and then
submit the fix to at least get
contexts for this, there's no
security on the portlet (standard) context, it can be accessed directly
with a variety of unpleasant side effects, it makes the whole thing
require multiple build modules and an EAR, etc.
snip
I responded with:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
Regarding #1
m plan should be some reasonable Pluto
integration in the form of a proper "portal server" where you can
dynamically select portlets and alter layout and so on. But that's a
pretty big effort.
Aaron
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
A few weeks back we had a discussion a
:
At the Geronimo BOF last night there was discussion about moving the
web console out of the sandbox and into the main build - general
consensus seem to be something was better than nothing :-)
Any objection to moving it over?
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David, Thanks for your help ... see comments below.
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On Aug 5, 2005, at 6:32 AM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Well I'm still feeling my way around the web console code, but it
looks to me like they are expecting users to add more queues to the
org/apache/geronimo/SystemJMS config
opening up the portlet container for others to
use in the near future then
it would make sense to get more involved with JetSpeed.
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like to see the M5 cut with a 5 day window between QA code
freeze and release. Thus QA cut on 9/4. Does this sound reasonable?
Any other issues, lets make em a part of this thread.
Thanks,
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Of course this is required in Geronimo R1 and I think it is also
required in M5.
However, based upon some of the comments around certification of
Tomcat, I thought I should ask if everyone felt that this was necessary
for M5.
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and tomcat ... but
they may have already been fixed. I'll find out soon :-) .
Joe
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Of course this is required in Geronimo R1 and I think it is also
required in M5.
However, based upon some of the comments
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we
can provide basic JavaMail resource mapping (at least for outgoing mail via
SMTP) as part of the standard package.
If this is not possible for some reason, please retarget this issue to 1.0 and
suggest a path forward. Thanks.
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a utility class under the console for this
function? If this is useful beyond just the console we could move it
to a more general place. Thoughts?
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.
- The log portlet references a GBean object for the JettyRequestLog.
- I don't see an equivalent GBean in tomcat. Should I attempt to create
one and wrap the Tomcat web log in a GBean too?
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deeper than
I anticipated and would like some recommendations.
- The log portlet references a GBean object for the JettyRequestLog.
- I don't see an equivalent GBean in tomcat. Should I attempt to
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t; or something -- I don't have the code in
front of me at the moment).
Aaron
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
There was recently some code specifically implemented under the
webmanager to determine the server on which a portlet is running (jetty
or tomcat). This was accomplished
mind that is).
Joe Bohn wrote:
Yes, I wasn't crazy about the implementation that I saw there either.
I think we need a more dynamic mechanism to to include the correct
elements for a particular configuration (be they UI components or other
internal elements). I also think that this is needed
call it, and look at how we could
implement that for Tomcat and Jetty.
Thanks,
Aaron
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
I was investigating what is necessary to get the log management portlet
in the console working for tomcat. It currently only works to display
the jetty web log
of the navigation area.
Thanks,
Joe
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= log.searchLogs(logFile, start, end, maxRows, ...);
)
To get started, perhaps you could propose an interface for the
RequestLogManager or whatever we call it, and look at how we could
implement that for Tomcat and Jetty.
Thanks,
Aaron
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
I
mind having two containers and builders
running at the same time, but wonder if there's a user case for it (a
web hosting provider?).
david jencks
Jacek
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I'm not a committer but I'd like to add my backing for 9/9 QA cut.
I think we have to keep produce regular milestones/releases to keep the
momentum.
:
[X] Friday 9/9 is the QA Cut date
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that matter).
Aaron Mulder wrote:
The web manager is a GBean that should be present in
tomcat-config.xml or jetty-config.xml in the server plans.
Aaron
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Joe Bohn (JIRA) wrote:
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-981?page=comments#action_12322931
call it, and look at how we could
implement that for Tomcat and Jetty.
Thanks,
Aaron
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
I was investigating what is necessary to get the log management portlet
in the console working for tomcat. It currently only works to display
the jetty web log
understand what this issue is about, but I would like to
point out that the first assumption (that there is one web container
per image) is currently wrong and IMO not likely to change for M5
thanks
david jencks
On Sep 9, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Aaron Mulder wrote:In order
? If so I'd like to talk about it.
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on this was some time ago and I haven't seen any
additional activity on this? Are there more questions/concerns that we
should discuss?
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-922
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outweigh the additional project management complexity involved.
thanks
david jencks
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by
anybody) off of Apache Geronimo?
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that where it is setting the
GBeanInfoBuilder values there is no attribute for the RequestLog ...
but when I look at older versions when the attribute could be found it
is the same setting (or lack of setting) for the RequestLog.
Any ideas?
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Thanks David ... that does help.
I know where it is getting the name from (it's in a constants file in
the console). I'll update that file and see how far it gets.
Joe
David Jencks wrote:
On Sep 12, 2005, at 2:24 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
With the most recent builds since late last week
of these references or garbage left after the change in the name. If
anybody has any suggestions I'm all ears. :-)
Joe Bohn wrote:
Thanks David ... that does help.
I know where it is getting the name from (it's in a constants file in
the console). I'll update that file and see how far it gets.
Joe
Never mind :-[It turns out that it was the original constant file
and somehow I didn't get everything rebuilt. I'll create a JIRA and
add the patch.
Joe Bohn wrote:
Well ... I knew of one place this was specified but it obviously isn't
the only place. :-) I made the change
references and so we can support Tomcat as well.
Aaron
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Joe Bohn wrote:
Never mind :-[It turns out that it was the original constant file
and somehow I didn't get everything rebuilt. I'll create a JIRA and
add the patch.
Joe Bohn wrote:
Well ... I
to utilize the new structure
which will include instantiation of a WebAccessLogCriteria prior to
queries.
- Removal of console-standard classes for WebAccessLogHelper and
WebAccessLogCriteria
Joe Bohn wrote:
Aaron Mulder wrote:
In order to do this right, I think we should define
apply) and move DayTrader (if accepted)
with other relevant codebases into it
[ ] -1 Do not create Applications subproject. Leave in trunk.
I'm happy for people to pose alternatives if there are good ones - I
just didn't see any on the threads so far.
geir
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just yet. It would be a good area for someone to look at :-)
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tegy alone, so that's the stuff I'd like to focus on for 1.0.
Aaron
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Yes, we definitely need to find a way to make the console more dynamic.
There are several ways to do this on top of what we already have from
Pluto. However, it was my und
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. Cut and sign the binary and source distributions
Then it's just test and vote, both take two days and can be done at the
same time.
Any details I've missed?
-David
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or tomcat just once before people deploy apps. As far as
pre-deployed apps, no idea how to work that out.
-David
On Sep 26, 2005, at 6:29 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
I'm still not sure if I completely understand the approach for easy
switching from Jetty-Tomcat.
- If applications have already been
:-)
thanks
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for looking into this, Joe.
Jeff
Joe Bohn (JIRA) wrote:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1029?page=comments#action_12330793
]
Joe Bohn commented on GERONIMO-1029:
I created the jira because there are never any records displayed in
the web access
assumption. In my case the console is
running in the tomcat container but we're attempting to manage the jetty
container.
So now I just have to come up with a way to detect which WebManager is
the one for the default container.
Joe
Joe Bohn wrote:
Thanks for the information Jeff. Right now I'd
to guess which is more important
thanks
david jencks
On Sep 29, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Joe Bohn wrote:
It turns out this isn't a problem with tomcat, the web log viewer
portlet, or even really the management interface. However, it is a
bit related to running multiple containers concurrently
(the only way to
truely manage everything)?
Joe
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on branch/m5 (and head) and do a
M6 tag off of branch/m5 (if people don't find that too
nauseating) and release that?
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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Oct 5, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Joe Bohn wrote:
I think there's two different types of problems here that are being
confused.
The first is a few configuration issues with the zip image that
Stefan (in the tomcat config.xml) and Matt (with the TranQL and DB2
get started on port
8080. Even though Tomcat is running on port 8090:
Before I investigate further, is this a known
problem?
Thanks
Anita
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tree distribution, we could just make the post-assembly
processing available to as well. The user could choose to keep both
containers (and all configurations) or perform this additional step to
narrow it down to just one container.
Joe
thanks
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pre-deployed configurations being included in a tomcat
only configuration)?
thanks
david jencks
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computers to test on, and I think it would be cool to get
the Geronimo logo on their website.
-dain
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to decide, they should
just be able to start working with geronimo.
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show wars, ears, etc
show connection factories (jdbc, jms)
show security realms
basically we can show any type of object, such as web-containers,
servlets, etc
operations console: perform jmx operations
Simon
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but others are still there (such as
the war directory, the AppName-cmp-ejb.jar and the AppName-ejb.jar). I
would expect that everything is properly deleted?!
Maybe I simply don't understand it properly - so enlighten me please :-).
Thanks.
Regards,
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in the security configuration.
Comments?
thanks
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I've made one final attempt to clarify my proposal. If it's still
hair-brained then I'll let it fade into the dev archives ... :-)
David Jencks wrote:
On Oct 24, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Jeff Genender wrote:
Sachin Patel wrote:
Wouldn't it be more confusing to the user
)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:539)
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think it's likely a problem
there?
Joe Bohn wrote:
I'm trying to fix a problem with in the web console where it is supposed
to list the connections ... but instead gets an error (at the bottom of
this note).
It seems to be a problem actually generating the proxy for the class and
I lose
should be created.
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Is there any way to get a view of JIRAs that have files(patches) attached?
If not, can we begin some kind of convention? I noticed that some folks
have added (Patch) to the start of the title for a few JIRAs. Do you
think that would be helpful?
I image it must be a pain for the committers
David Blevins wrote:
On Nov 1, 2005, at 2:04 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
Is there any way to get a view of JIRAs that have files(patches)
attached?
If not, can we begin some kind of convention? I noticed that some
folks have added (Patch) to the start of the title for a few JIRAs.
Do you
/2/05, Joe Bohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any way to get a view of JIRAs that have files(patches) attached?
If not, can we begin some kind of convention? I noticed that some folks
have added (Patch) to the start of the title for a few JIRAs. Do you
think that would be helpful?
I image
. This will let the committers know what everyone is
working on, and will hopefully help those working on earning commit
get used to JIRA.
What do you think?
-dain
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to the v1.0 delivery. Let us know what everyone thinks...
Dave
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not sure if that is
the right fix.
Joe
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in the portable
java:comp/env location and use a name geronimo can resolve without a
plan entry?
It should be jndi.lookup(foo/bar/Connection).
-dain
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of
gratitude for heling to get us out of the Grey console into the
Great! console :)
- Matt
Joe Bohn wrote:
When I first saw these I was surprised at what a dramatic difference
this is over what we sent to Epiq. As I've already told the Epiq
team great work!!
I also agree that we
I think that until we have the ideal solution we will just be
confusing our users and causing them grief.
While the change on the fly option is great for developers (esp.
developers of Geronimo itself :-) ), it isn't so good for the typical
user. Users who are using Geronimo to host their
/jira/browse/GERONIMO-1064
Project: Geronimo
Type: Bug
Components: console
Versions: 1.0-M5
Environment: all
Reporter: Joe Bohn
Fix For: 1.0
Attachments: TomcatHttpsConnector.patch
This may be related to other configuration problems where the first container
is always presumed
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I suggest to remove the Tomcat HTTPS Connector from
the Tomcat
configuration for now and build rest of the code.
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at deploy time when the dependency is generic?
Also, how do you specify a plan that is external from the archive?
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Sachin Patel wrote:
Joe Bohn wrote:
Aaron Mulder wrote:
...now works if you copy your module JAR into geronimo/deploy/ -- let
me know how it goes. :)
Aaron
P.S. You can adjust the directory and frequency in config.xml:
gbean name=HotDeployer
attribute name=pathdeploy/attribute
(webapp in my case)
Undeploy an app
Shutdown geronimo
startup geronimo - fails with:
org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.NoSuchConfigException: No
configuration with id bla/bla/bla
config.xml contains undeployed id, if removed geronimo starts up again.
Cheers
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on the shutdown (deploy-undeploy
works fine)
Simon
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is pretty neat -- but the header doesn't
lay out too well for me. See the attached screen shot.
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it provide links to add tomcat
connectors.
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(416.12) and Firefox 1.0.7 (same problem in
both)
Reporter: Aaron Mulder
Assignee: Joe Bohn
Fix For: 1.0
Attachments: NewLook2.patch, console-after.png, console.png, console.png
The new look and feel for the console is pretty neat -- but the header doesn't
lay out too well for me. See
within) in Connector portlet and went ahead
to address those. If the console is for Geronimo, then this improvement
is definitely not ahead of its time.
-Vamsi
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Is this patch adding the ability to add/display tomcat
appropriately.
There has been talk about some day making the console fully generic,
such that GBeans have associated portlets and the console is built
dynamically based on the content of the server. But that needs much
more thought and is waaay not in scope for 1.0.
Aaron
On 11/14/05, Joe Bohn
My belated but very enthusiastic +1.
Joe
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I have put together the release and its been a long journey to get here.
If you have comments please put them on the corresponding [DISCUSS] thread.
[ ] +1 Release Geronimo 2.0
[ ] 0 No opinion
[ ] -1 Do not release Geronimo
Looks good to me ... just a few comments:
One typo I noted in the new text ... ... flexibility of Apache Geornimo
which already *provides* two certified ...
The mention of EJB 3.0 twice in the third paragraph and the subsequent
list seems a little redundant but I guess it doesn't cause any
+1 to option 2
Joe
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
All,
Earlier today one of the Geronimo committers discovered a bug in the
command line deployer where a null user / password on the deployer
command line will allow a user to deploy modules to a 2.0 server. This
is an unacceptable security exposure
Hernan Cunico wrote:
Anybody seeing plugin issues, specially when starting them?
Could it be a versioning problem, I get similar errors on both Jetty and
Tomcat
- Unable to start configuration org.apache.geronimo.configs
- org.apache.geronimo.kernel.config.InvalidConfigException: Unknown
Here's my +1 assuming TCK is still 100% (tests are still running).
Joe
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
The updated binaries are available for review. I have incorporated the
security changes provided by David Jencks, Kevan and Vamsi. Thanks gents !
I also incorporated a few additional fixes. Please
Congrats on both counts Sachin (but especially on your upcoming
wedding)! Thanks for all your contributions to Geronimo. You've helped
the project immensely. Hopefully you will still have some cycles to
throw our way. :-)
Joe
Sachin Patel wrote:
Hello community members...
I'd thought
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Jeff / Joe,
Can we get the Sun WebSite updated with Geronimo 2.0.1 being certified
rather than 2.0-M6-rc1?
Jeff has the Sun contacts. Also, we certified 2.0.1 with a different OS
and with a newer patch/exclude list. I'll put the updated information
to document our
+1
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
All,
Since 1.1.1 is the stable version of Geronimo I'd like to propose that
we remove the older versions from the download site. If there are no
objections I'll do this tomorrow when we announce the 2.0.1 release.
Looks good to me with one possible exception.
This:
In addition, the Certification Authority portlet lets you setup a
Certification Authority, your own Public-Key Infrastructure, very easily
and use server/client Digital Certificates for securing your applications.
doesn't read quite right
looks like it's fixed to me too.
Joe
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I think its fixed .. if someone else can verify that would be great.
On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
Yikes, that is not good. Hernan?
On Aug 22, 2007, at 5:29 AM, Peter Petersson wrote:
Hi
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