Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread Mladen Turk
On 01/03/2012 09:22 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. Is the issue still present and what the issue actually is. I have watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeat working on windows using the current svn

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/3/2012 2:22 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. I can tell someone what each do (as far as I have seen). There are, minimal docvs on all but watchdog (which is required for a couple)

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread Gregg Smith
Mladen, It is fixed, r1210449 did the trick. Once that extra Win32 pid check was removed, the watchdog takes steps, heatbeat beats heartmonitor monitors. I thought I confirmed this back then, sorry if I didn't. Regards, Gregg On 2/3/2012 6:45 AM, Mladen Turk wrote: On 01/03/2012 09:22

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread Gregg Smith
On 2/3/2012 9:35 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/3/2012 2:22 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. I can tell someone what each do (as far as I have seen). There are, minimal docvs on all but

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread Rainer Jung
On 03.02.2012 19:51, Gregg Smith wrote: On 2/3/2012 9:35 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/3/2012 2:22 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. I can tell someone what each do (as far as I have

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/3/2012 12:51 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: On 2/3/2012 9:35 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/3/2012 2:22 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. I can tell someone what each do (as far as I have

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-02-03 Thread Mladen Turk
On 02/04/2012 12:27 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 2/3/2012 12:51 PM, Gregg Smith wrote: a way of monitoring a cluster of servers and opening another way of balancing the load (lb_meathod_byheartbeat). This is what I see when I look at the bundle. With what external mechanisms that exist

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Gregg L. Smith
0On 1/2/2012 3:06 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 We should try to get at least the rewrite/proxy issue resolved, first. About the

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Honesty, never tries with these on ... especially sendfile ... slows us wintards outbound down bigtime. On 1/2/2012 3:08 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/1/2012 12:30 PM, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers Does disabling the

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-01-03 Thread Gregg L. Smith
Since I have been the most vocal about this watchdog/hearmonitor/heartbeats on windows ... I should chime in. I can tell someone what each do (as far as I have seen). There are, minimal docvs on all but watchdog (which is required for a couple) ... but ... look at my emails in the past ... am

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Gregg L. Smith
My vote ... Stefan, wherever it fits (depends on whom I speak to) , these are showstoppers. But, it can be said these are one OS specific ... which usually does not stop the press AFAIK. I can say however .. as a small time distributor ... this will be noted as the problems yet remaining on

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
Suprised. When ASF is going that way, we theoritical can have: GA Windows 2.4 Beta OSX 2.3.19 Alpha Ubuntu 2.3.19 Steffen On Monday 02/01/2012 at 23:11, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
Suprised. When ASF is going that way, we theoritical can have: GA Windows 2.4 Beta OSX 2.3.19 Alpha Ubuntu 2.3.19 Steffen On Monday 02/01/2012 at 23:11, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Mario Brandt
I agree with Gregg, this server is the best I ever worked with. Since one of the early betas I run it on my prod systems on windows and *nix. Except for known issues it works like a charm. A public beta or RC does not hurt. More testers may find some more stuff to fix. An api freeze coulod gve the

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
On Tuesday 03/01/2012 at 09:16, Gregg L. Smith wrote: 0On 1/2/2012 3:06 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 We should try to get at

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
On Tuesday 03/01/2012 at 09:16, Gregg L. Smith wrote: 0On 1/2/2012 3:06 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 We should try to get at

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
Was off. Still, I want to ask to reconsider going back to the 2.2 behavior (for the time being). On Tuesday 03/01/2012 at 00:09, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/1/2012 12:30 PM, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers Does disabling

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Steffen
Was off. Still, I want to ask to reconsider going back to the 2.2 behavior (for the time being). On Tuesday 03/01/2012 at 00:09, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/1/2012 12:30 PM, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers Does disabling

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
One reason to announce my intent was to basically encourage people to try HEAD and see how it works for them. If we lack sufficient people with access and/or knowledge about Windows, or if they don't bother to try things out until they get a tagged and rolled tarball (or whatever), then that is

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/3/2012 3:30 AM, Steffen wrote: Still, I want to ask to reconsider going back to the 2.2 behavior (for the time being). Highly unlikely for the reasons I responded nearly a year or so back. This bug is irritating, but it is exactly that, a bug. Not 1000's of lines of redundant code.

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/3/2012 2:15 AM, Gregg L. Smith wrote: I all for stop any and all API changes other than anything that may require fixing these. Hopefully, there is consensus that the API is baked :) I am all for RCs if it means changing the -dev is to -rc# -rc# isn't an httpd concept. Long threads

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/3/2012 7:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: One reason to announce my intent was to basically encourage people to try HEAD and see how it works for them. If we lack sufficient people with access and/or knowledge about Windows, or if they don't bother to try things out until they get a tagged

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jan 3, 2012, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/3/2012 7:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: One reason to announce my intent was to basically encourage people to try HEAD and see how it works for them. If we lack sufficient people with access and/or knowledge about Windows, or if they

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-03 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Tuesday 03 January 2012, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/3/2012 3:30 AM, Steffen wrote: Still, I want to ask to reconsider going back to the 2.2 behavior (for the time being). Highly unlikely for the reasons I responded nearly a year or so back. This bug is irritating, but it is

remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-01-02 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 02 January 2012, Takashi Sato wrote: mod_heartbeat mod_heartmonitor mod_lbmethod_heartbeat These have no documentation. Is that OK we release GA with no docs modules? I am +0.5 for removing them from 2.4.0. They can be re-added when someone writes the docs. Other opinions?

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-02 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Sunday 01 January 2012, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers - Rewrite P On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/2/2012 4:10 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers - Rewrite P On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-02 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/1/2012 12:30 PM, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers Does disabling the EnableSendfile/EnableMMAP directives alter either of these cases? It really appears that socket reuse is to blame here. We know there are plenty of windows

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-01-02 Thread Takashi Sato
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:06:35 +0100 Stefan Fritsch s...@sfritsch.de wrote: On Monday 02 January 2012, Takashi Sato wrote: mod_heartbeat mod_heartmonitor mod_lbmethod_heartbeat These have no documentation. Is that OK we release GA with no docs modules? I am +0.5 for removing them

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-01-02 Thread Eric Covener
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Takashi Sato taka...@lans-tv.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 23:06:35 +0100 Stefan Fritsch s...@sfritsch.de wrote: On Monday 02 January 2012, Takashi Sato wrote: mod_heartbeat mod_heartmonitor mod_lbmethod_heartbeat These have no documentation. Is that

Re: remove mod_heart* from 2.4?(was: 2.4.0 GA This week?)

2012-01-02 Thread Sander Temme
On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Eric Covener wrote: I will crank out docs for these tomorrow and ping paul to review. Thank you for getting this going: it seems to be the most constructive way to resolve this issue. S. -- scte...@apache.orghttp://www.temme.net/sander/ PGP FP:

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-02 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Tuesday 03 January 2012, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/2/2012 4:10 PM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: On Sunday 01 January 2012, Steffen wrote: Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers - Rewrite P On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt

2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-01 Thread Jim Jagielski
I'm proposing a TR of 2.4.0 this week with a release sometime next week... I'll RM.

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-01 Thread Mario Brandt
The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 IMHO a blocker for GA. Cheers Mario On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 18:47, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: I'm proposing a TR of 2.4.0 this week with a release sometime next week... I'll RM.

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-01 Thread Steffen
Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers - Rewrite P On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 IMHO a blocker for GA. Cheers Mario On Sun,

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-01 Thread Steffen
Also IMHO blocking GA: - SSL on windows not usable - Hanging logging workers - Rewrite P On Sunday 01/01/2012 at 19:03, Mario Brandt wrote: The loadbalancer still crashes on windows. See https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52402 IMHO a blocker for GA. Cheers Mario On Sun,

Re: 2.4.0 GA This week?

2012-01-01 Thread Takashi Sato
mod_heartbeat mod_heartmonitor mod_lbmethod_heartbeat These have no documentation. Is that OK we release GA with no docs modules? -- 佐藤 高志 (Takashi Sato) taka...@lans-tv.com