Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-23 Thread Joe Orton
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:14:32PM +0100, Mladen Turk wrote: Guenter Knauf wrote: Hi, Should we add a cert-creation .sh and .vbs script to support/ for this purpose (on any platform)? Sounds like a great idea to me! +1 from me. If you find my vbs useful then I will contribute it. I've

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-23 Thread Mladen Turk
Joe Orton wrote: Drop an eye on: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/examples/mkcerts?view=markup - auto-generating dummy certs which claim to be issued by or to the ASF doesn't seem like a good idea at all It is an example, so anyone is entitled to change it for its

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hi, I'll take this as a resounding no, and that the draft package is sufficient. Moving it within 24 hrs unless I hear a specific technical objection. I've heard from a couple of users that they prefer *.zip archives rather than the *.msi files; and hacked a WSH script to fix the config files

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Guenter Knauf wrote: I've heard from a couple of users that they prefer *.zip archives rather than the *.msi files; and hacked a WSH script to fix the config files when using a zip distribution. Should we add a cert-creation .sh and .vbs script to support/ for this purpose (on any platform)?

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread Sander Temme
On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:22 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Guenter Knauf wrote: I've heard from a couple of users that they prefer *.zip archives rather than the *.msi files; and hacked a WSH script to fix the config files when using a zip distribution. Should we add a cert-creation .sh

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Sander Temme wrote: On Mar 22, 2007, at 12:22 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Guenter Knauf wrote: I've heard from a couple of users that they prefer *.zip archives rather than the *.msi files; and hacked a WSH script to fix the config files when using a zip distribution. Should we add

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hi, Should we add a cert-creation .sh and .vbs script to support/ for this purpose (on any platform)? Sounds like a great idea to me! +1 from me. If you find my vbs useful then I will contribute it. I've spent a good time to find at least something working; the Inet is full of stuff, but

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread Mladen Turk
Guenter Knauf wrote: Hi, Should we add a cert-creation .sh and .vbs script to support/ for this purpose (on any platform)? Sounds like a great idea to me! +1 from me. If you find my vbs useful then I will contribute it. I've spent a good time to find at least something working; Drop an eye

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-22 Thread Guenter Knauf
Hi Mladen, Drop an eye on: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/connectors/trunk/jni/examples/mkcerts? view=markup I've also spend a good deal of time on that, so it might be helpful :) yeah!! Thanks! Will do, and update my vbs soon thanks, Guenter.

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd like to propose we ship apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8d.msi with this release. Couple of notes... Did anyone else have feedback on the comments/notes? I know Roy's made some additional progress with the notification

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-16 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:48 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd like to propose we ship apache_2.2.4-win32-x86- openssl-0.9.8d.msi with this release. Couple of notes... Did anyone else have feedback on the comments/notes? I know Roy's

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-03-16 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Mar 16, 2007, at 2:48 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd like to propose we ship apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8d.msi with this release. Couple of notes... Did anyone else have feedback on the

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-12 Thread Issac Goldstand
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Issac Goldstand wrote: I'd agree if mod_ssl is disabled by default, but if it is, why are they downloading the mod_ssl-enabled installer? You miss the point, it's illegal in some jurisdictions to possess/use such cryptography. That installer will remain as a

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Do note that not all users that will chose the SSL package will know how to correctly fill in the fields. s/not all/a small minority of/ They can't figure out what Domain Name means, let's be serious :) On 1/10/07, *Issac Goldstand*

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
Jorge Schrauwen wrote: On 1/10/07, *William A. Rowe, Jr.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Do note that not all users that will chose the SSL package will know how to correctly fill in the fields. s/not all/a small

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-11 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On 1/11/07, Issac Goldstand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ./configure; make; make install We don't deposit a certificate today for Unix. After considering this a bit more, I agree with jerenkrantz. True... if you don't enable mod_ssl by default and add a note in the conf

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Issac Goldstand wrote: I'd agree if mod_ssl is disabled by default, but if it is, why are they downloading the mod_ssl-enabled installer? You miss the point, it's illegal in some jurisdictions to possess/use such cryptography. That installer will remain as a service to those communities,

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 1/10/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A final question for all, do we wish to install an arbitrary, on the fly self signed default.crt/default.key? Do we want to help them fill out the details or use stock details? Or do we want them to use openssl.exe to generate one for

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread Issac Goldstand
I think the MSI should autogenerate a self-signed cert at least (last thing we need is for people to deploy a static pre-distributed cert which would make it that much easier to do man-in-the-middle attacks). Would be great if the MSI had a choice to use an existing cert, or generate a new one

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
Do note that not all users that will chose the SSL package will know how to correctly fill in the fields. My experience tells me if there is a package with XYZ and without most chose it with XYZ even if they don't need it. So if there is a dialog in the installer that would ask for the

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Do note that not all users that will chose the SSL package will know how to correctly fill in the fields. s/not all/a small minority of/ They can't figure out what Domain Name means, let's be serious :) On 1/10/07, *Issac Goldstand* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On 1/10/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge Schrauwen wrote: Do note that not all users that will chose the SSL package will know how to correctly fill in the fields. s/not all/a small minority of/ Do not underestimate user stupidity ;) ok maybe the number won't be

Re: 2.2.4 windows binary w/ssl?

2007-01-10 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 01/10/2007 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Does this sound sane? +1 Regards RĂ¼diger