"classic mode" anyone? Meh.
FWIW I think "Standalone mode" is fine because it refers to the node
itself, not the cluster. A cluster of standalone mode Solrs vs. a
SolrCloud cluster.
The SolrCloud name seems too entrenched to try to re-brand it. And that's
fine with me; it's not a terrible
I like Cassandra's original suggestion: uncoordinated vs coordinated (or
non-coordinated vs coordinated).
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 8:19 PM Jan Høydahl wrote:
> Hehe, «self» can be self as in user or self as in Solr :)
>
> Legacy feels like something that is going away, and so far the
>
Hehe, «self» can be self as in user or self as in Solr :)
Legacy feels like something that is going away, and so far the «standalone»
mode is not going anywhere.
Cassandra, feel free to propose what is your best shot and then I don’t think
we need a poll for it, but suffice a bunch of +1 on
How about we collect all the reasonable options and conduct a poll on
solr-users list?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:52 PM Cassandra Targett
wrote:
> OK, fair point about self-managed. But I object to "leaving it" as Legacy,
> as I've previously explained (I put that in quotes because it’s not
OK, fair point about self-managed. But I object to "leaving it" as Legacy, as
I've previously explained (I put that in quotes because it’s not always called
that at all - it has at least 3 names right now).
The reality is someone can come up with an objection to every single
possibility.
I object to "self managed". It gives the impression that Solr manages
itself, whereas it is the other way around: users need to manage the
standalone mode with lots of manual effort, as opposed to SolrCloud which
is in spirit self managed (solr manages itself using zk).
I'm +1 with Legacy
I don’t feel there is a consensus for me to move forward confidently, but the
docs need to be fixed before 8.7. I’ve thought about Ilan’s suggestion, and
like calling the non-SolrCloud cluster “self-managed”. It avoids the currently
awkward phrasing and any misinterpretation of my original
The suggestion to use “managed” and maybe “self-managed” is an interesting one.
Do you think it’s possible some might confuse that with the other ways we use
managed - like the “managed-schema”, and “managed resources” (synonyms and stop
words)? Neither of those are cluster-specific, and I
There may be other things, but off the top of my head, Streaming
expressions and TRA's are not available in "legacy"...
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:49 AM Cassandra Targett
wrote:
> On Aug 6, 2020, 10:22 AM -0500, Gus Heck , wrote:
>
> WRT the name "uncoordinated mode" I fear it could be read (or
Both "legacy" and "SolrCloud" clusters are search server clusters. Seen
from far enough, they look the same.
In "legacy" the management code is elsewhere (developed by the client
operating the cluster, running on other machines using a diferent logic and
potentially another DB than Zookeeper)
On Aug 6, 2020, 10:22 AM -0500, Gus Heck , wrote:
> WRT the name "uncoordinated mode" I fear it could be read (or even become
> known as) as "clumsy mode" which is humorous but possibly not what we're
> going for :)
I had also considered “non-coordinated”, and prefer it but couldn’t articulate
Just occurred to me: Maybe no adjective for the current zookeeper based
mode just "Solr" and the non-zookeeper (legacy/uncoordinated/clumsy) could
be Solr "Lite" which has a nice pun and very much fits with reduced
functionality with less infrastructure.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:22 AM Gus Heck
WRT the name "uncoordinated mode" I fear it could be read (or even become
known as) as "clumsy mode" which is humorous but possibly not what we're
going for :) I'd perhaps suggest Cluster mode for SolrCloud though I'm not
entirely sure if Legacy Solr (in curren parlance) is not a "cluster"
too,
Thanks, Ishan. Just to be clear, I’m not planning on replacing “SolrCloud”
throughout at this time. I feel there are code changes that would need to
correspond to that, so it’s a larger effort IMO. The way I put it in the Jira
is:
“...Instead I'll augment the use of the word "SolrCloud" with
+1 Cassandra. These names are very appropriate. I'm glad we'll get rid of
"SolrCloud" name.
On Thu, 6 Aug, 2020, 7:57 pm Cassandra Targett,
wrote:
> The work in SOLR-14702 has left us with some awkward phrasing (which is
> still better than what it was) around non-SolrCloud clusters that I've
>
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