Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Changes Plugin version 2.4
Dennis Lundberg wrote: Hi On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Dennis Lundberg wrote: Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-072/ Staging site: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.4/ +1 Not sure whether this is expected from the staging site but the links changes.xml and changes.xsd below the Reference menu in the left nav bar yield 404s. A quick check tells me that the same problem can be found on the 2.3 staging site as well, but both files are available (with the correct date) on the last production site deploy. So we should be OK for the final site deploy, but I'll have a closer look tonight to see if I can fix it for staging as well. The modello-plugin runs in the pre-site phase, but I suppose you just used the (documented) site:stage-deploy goal without running 'site' first, so the xsd was not generated. This will be no issue in site-plugin-2.3, see http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSITE-533. Cheers, -Lukas Benjamin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 -Lukas Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: +1 -Lukas Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. +1 Stéphane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Maven ear Plugin version 2.5
+1 -Lukas Stephane Nicoll wrote: Hi, We solved 9 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11132version=16706 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=11132status=1 Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-076/ Staging site: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ear-plugin-2.5/ Guide to testing staged releases: http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 My +1 S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
[ANN] Maven Surefire Plugin 2.7.2 Released
The Maven team is pleased to announce the release of the Maven Surefire Plugin, version 2.7.2 This release includes the maven-surefire-plugin, which executes the unit tests of an application, the maven-surefire-report-plugin, which parses surefire/failsafe test results and renders them to DOXIA creating the web interface version of the test results, as well as the maven-failsafe-plugin, which executes the integration tests of an application. Highlights of this release: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE-257 is fixed, which is the third highest voted maven issue ever. It's now possible to consolidate surefire and failsafe reports due to http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SUREFIRE-570 being fixed. Note to JUnit4 users upgrading: Due to SUREFIRE-482 users upgrading to surefire 2.7.2 from 2.7 may see some (incorrectly defined) tests not being run any more. This should be verified by running mvn -Dsurefire.junit4.upgradecheck=true install at least once (this can be run multiple times until you have fixed all issues) http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-surefire-plugin/ You should specify the version in your project's plugin configuration: plugin groupIdorg.apache.maven.plugins/groupId artifactIdmaven-surefire-plugin/artifactId version2.7.2/version /plugin Release Notes - Maven Surefire - Version 2.7.2 ** Bug * [SUREFIRE-257] - surefire-report reruns tests * [SUREFIRE-260] - Detail display doesn't work if there are tests with the same name * [SUREFIRE-319] - skiptrue/skip cannot be overridden using mvn -Dmaven.test.skip=false test * [SUREFIRE-424] - A class providing JUnit's suite() method need not itself implement Test. But Surefire ignores the suite if it doesn't. * [SUREFIRE-468] - When tests timeout, report files on disk are incorrect * [SUREFIRE-480] - Improper TestCase classes incorrectly reported as a failure of the TestSuite class * [SUREFIRE-498] - POJO tests have only partially implemented fixture support * [SUREFIRE-500] - puzzling NoClassDefFoundError instead of meaningfull stacktrace * [SUREFIRE-510] - surefire.test.class.path is not set when forkMode is always * [SUREFIRE-515] - Executes nested classes that are not tests * [SUREFIRE-516] - Definition of multiple Suite-Files not working * [SUREFIRE-519] - junit-dep 4.4+ isn't detected - transitive dependency to JUnit-3.x causes POJO-test treatment * [SUREFIRE-542] - JUnit 4.4 tests skipped for a failed assumption are not reported as Skipped * [SUREFIRE-548] - System properties not inherited * [SUREFIRE-560] - tests with @Ignore are treated as unsuccessful * [SUREFIRE-562] - Exorbitant long site-build since surefire 2.4 * [SUREFIRE-568] - Fork mode of pertest or always does not fork per test or always * [SUREFIRE-570] - Empty surefire reports when a multi-module project is ran with multiple report directories in surefire-report configuration * [SUREFIRE-625] - Testclass which fails during launch claims to have no tests * [SUREFIRE-677] - Improve param documentation * [SUREFIRE-679] - [regression] TestNG suite no longer succeeds, with error testSetStarting called twice * [SUREFIRE-680] - Printout Running TestSuite twice times * [SUREFIRE-682] - skipTests cannot be overridden by commandline param * [SUREFIRE-685] - Cannot pass multiple comma-separated includes * [SUREFIRE-687] - JunitCore runs classes that are not tests ** Improvement * [SUREFIRE-645] - Meaningful message when test has no runnable methods * [SUREFIRE-675] - perCoreThreadCount/useUnlimitedThreads param should be boolean * [SUREFIRE-676] - useSystemClassLoader should have default-value declared through annotation * [SUREFIRE-678] - Fixes to the upgrade check doc * [SUREFIRE-684] - Avoid duplicate code in AbstractSurefireMojo ** Test * [SUREFIRE-546] - test case for @Test(threadPoolSize) Enjoy, -The Maven team - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Maven ear Plugin version 2.5
+1 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: +1 -Lukas Stephane Nicoll wrote: Hi, We solved 9 issues: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11132version=16706 There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=truepid=11132status=1 Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-076/ Staging site: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-ear-plugin-2.5/ Guide to testing staged releases: http://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-releases.html Vote open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 [ ] +0 [ ] -1 My +1 S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
'+1' vs 'I agree'
This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 Le 26 janv. 2011 09:40, Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com a écrit : +1 Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: +1 -Lukas Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
I agree :-) Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
Arnaud, what do you agree with? :) Thanks, ~t~ 2011/1/26 Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com: I agree :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
I agree to say I agree when I agree with something instead of using +1 :-) Do you agree ? Arnaud 2011/1/26 Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net Arnaud, what do you agree with? :) Thanks, ~t~ 2011/1/26 Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com: I agree :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
I Agree :) 2011/1/26 Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com: I agree to say I agree when I agree with something instead of using +1 :-) Do you agree ? Arnaud - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
-1 or: I do not agree ;) seriously, a +1 and -1 just states agreement/disagreement. Imo a vote is a vote is a vote only if the subject says [VOTE] or [DISCUSS] [1]. A +1 in all other threads are just the expression of a ack/nack which makes it easier/quicker to read, because the +1 or -1 just visually jumps out of the text. If people start expressing their gut feeling with long sentences, then this might slow down the process/overview on the mailing lists. LieGrue, strub [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DocumentationPlan --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: From: Arnaud Héritier arnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com Subject: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:03 PM I agree :-) Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: svn commit: r1062210 - /maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml
Although the PMC has not approved a policy yet, it has been making good progress and I am confident that we will have a policy in very short order. As a consequence I am now rescinding my veto. Note though that this change may be subject to review by the PMC when that policy is formalized - but that doesn't necessarily mean this change won't be approved. I am aware that a few other PMC members expressed support for my veto. It wasn't clear to me if they meant to imply that they also were vetoing the change, in which case they would also need to rescind theirs. Ralph On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: From what I can tell Sisu was previously under the Apache license but now also seems to have the EPL attached to it. Until the PMC makes a decision on how it is going to handle dependencies being managed by Sonatype I must veto any version changes on these artifacts. Please revert this change. Ralph On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:22 AM, bentm...@apache.org wrote: Author: bentmann Date: Sat Jan 22 17:22:15 2011 New Revision: 1062210 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1062210view=rev Log: [MNG-4992] Allow to configure plugin parameters of type java.util.Properties just like a map Modified: maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml Modified: maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml?rev=1062210r1=1062209r2=1062210view=diff == --- maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml (original) +++ maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml Sat Jan 22 17:22:15 2011 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ plexusVersion1.5.5/plexusVersion plexusInterpolationVersion1.14/plexusInterpolationVersion plexusUtilsVersion2.0.4/plexusUtilsVersion -sisuInjectVersion1.4.3.1/sisuInjectVersion +sisuInjectVersion2.0.0/sisuInjectVersion wagonVersion1.0-beta-7/wagonVersion securityDispatcherVersion1.3/securityDispatcherVersion cipherVersion1.4/cipherVersion - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
No problem if it's clear in the context. As I said, it's not a big issue and I'm not going to tell anybody how to lead a conversation. That said, I believe it shows good form and education if you use normal language in a normal conversation. :) -Lukas Mark Struberg wrote: -1 or: I do not agree ;) seriously, a +1 and -1 just states agreement/disagreement. Imo a vote is a vote is a vote only if the subject says [VOTE] or [DISCUSS] [1]. A +1 in all other threads are just the expression of a ack/nack which makes it easier/quicker to read, because the +1 or -1 just visually jumps out of the text. If people start expressing their gut feeling with long sentences, then this might slow down the process/overview on the mailing lists. LieGrue, strub [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DocumentationPlan --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: From: Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com Subject: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' To: Maven Developers Listdev@maven.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:03 PM I agree :-) Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lukas Theusslltheu...@apache.org wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
Olivier Lamy wrote: I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. +1 Benjamin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: svn commit: r1063715 - in /maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules: doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/
Vincent: you are the author of those tests, can you please review this? If I understand correctly, both FmlValidatorTest and XdocValidatorTest only validated files from doxia-test-docs. What's the point in checking that a fixed set of files is valid? IMO the modules should test that the generated files in each version are still valid, the files to check should only include files from the target folder. The reason for this is that I see sporadic test failures in doxia-related projects, also in the pdf plugin [1], that are due to network timeouts. I'm now trying to re-write the tests so they don't require a network connection, and these tests were part of the problem. Thanks, -Lukas [1] https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins/ ltheu...@apache.org wrote: Author: ltheussl Date: Wed Jan 26 13:45:34 2011 New Revision: 1063715 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1063715view=rev Log: disable pointless tests. to be clarified but for now: they lead to sporadic test failures when there are network issues Modified: maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/xdoc/XdocValidatorTest.java Modified: maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java?rev=1063715r1=1063714r2=1063715view=diff == --- maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java (original) +++ maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-fml/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/fml/FmlValidatorTest.java Wed Jan 26 13:45:34 2011 @@ -83,4 +83,10 @@ public class FmlValidatorTest return content; } + +public void testValidateFiles() +throws Exception +{ +// TODO: super.testValidateFiles() only validates files from doxia-test-docs, what's the point? +} } Modified: maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/xdoc/XdocValidatorTest.java URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/xdoc/XdocValidatorTest.java?rev=1063715r1=1063714r2=1063715view=diff == --- maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/xdoc/XdocValidatorTest.java (original) +++ maven/doxia/doxia/trunk/doxia-modules/doxia-module-xdoc/src/test/java/org/apache/maven/doxia/module/xdoc/XdocValidatorTest.java Wed Jan 26 13:45:34 2011 @@ -83,4 +83,10 @@ public class XdocValidatorTest return content; } + +public void testValidateFiles() +throws Exception +{ +// TODO: super.testValidateFiles() only validates files from doxia-test-docs, what's the point? +} }
RE: EXTERNAL: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
+1 Sorry, couldn't resist. -Original Message- From: Lukas Theussl [mailto:ltheu...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:37 AM To: Maven Developers List Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' No problem if it's clear in the context. As I said, it's not a big issue and I'm not going to tell anybody how to lead a conversation. That said, I believe it shows good form and education if you use normal language in a normal conversation. :) -Lukas Mark Struberg wrote: -1 or: I do not agree ;) seriously, a +1 and -1 just states agreement/disagreement. Imo a vote is a vote is a vote only if the subject says [VOTE] or [DISCUSS] [1]. A +1 in all other threads are just the expression of a ack/nack which makes it easier/quicker to read, because the +1 or -1 just visually jumps out of the text. If people start expressing their gut feeling with long sentences, then this might slow down the process/overview on the mailing lists. LieGrue, strub [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DocumentationPlan --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: From: Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com Subject: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' To: Maven Developers Listdev@maven.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:03 PM I agree :-) Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lukas Theusslltheu...@apache.org wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 On 01/26/2011 12:30 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: svn commit: r1062210 - /maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml
Just to be clear, I was expressing my support that the veto was valid. I didn't see the point in adding to the pile of -1's, each of which would have to be rescinded individually. Like Ralph, I think now we've got some momentum started where we can resolve this without such confrontational means. -john On 1/26/11 7:31 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: Although the PMC has not approved a policy yet, it has been making good progress and I am confident that we will have a policy in very short order. As a consequence I am now rescinding my veto. Note though that this change may be subject to review by the PMC when that policy is formalized - but that doesn't necessarily mean this change won't be approved. I am aware that a few other PMC members expressed support for my veto. It wasn't clear to me if they meant to imply that they also were vetoing the change, in which case they would also need to rescind theirs. Ralph On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:34 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: From what I can tell Sisu was previously under the Apache license but now also seems to have the EPL attached to it. Until the PMC makes a decision on how it is going to handle dependencies being managed by Sonatype I must veto any version changes on these artifacts. Please revert this change. Ralph On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:22 AM, bentm...@apache.org wrote: Author: bentmann Date: Sat Jan 22 17:22:15 2011 New Revision: 1062210 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1062210view=rev Log: [MNG-4992] Allow to configure plugin parameters of type java.util.Properties just like a map Modified: maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml Modified: maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml?rev=1062210r1=1062209r2=1062210view=diff == --- maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml (original) +++ maven/maven-3/trunk/pom.xml Sat Jan 22 17:22:15 2011 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ plexusVersion1.5.5/plexusVersion plexusInterpolationVersion1.14/plexusInterpolationVersion plexusUtilsVersion2.0.4/plexusUtilsVersion -sisuInjectVersion1.4.3.1/sisuInjectVersion +sisuInjectVersion2.0.0/sisuInjectVersion wagonVersion1.0-beta-7/wagonVersion securityDispatcherVersion1.3/securityDispatcherVersion cipherVersion1.4/cipherVersion - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
On 1/26/11 7:36 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote: No problem if it's clear in the context. As I said, it's not a big issue and I'm not going to tell anybody how to lead a conversation. That said, I believe it shows good form and education if you use normal language in a normal conversation. :) Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), and being in the habit of expressing agreement via +1 which happens all over the place in the open-source world, and not just for votes. Again, apologies if I confused anyone. -Lukas Mark Struberg wrote: -1 or: I do not agree ;) seriously, a +1 and -1 just states agreement/disagreement. Imo a vote is a vote is a vote only if the subject says [VOTE] or [DISCUSS] [1]. A +1 in all other threads are just the expression of a ack/nack which makes it easier/quicker to read, because the +1 or -1 just visually jumps out of the text. If people start expressing their gut feeling with long sentences, then this might slow down the process/overview on the mailing lists. LieGrue, strub [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DocumentationPlan --- On Wed, 1/26/11, Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com wrote: From: Arnaud Héritierarnaud.herit...@exoplatform.com Subject: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' To: Maven Developers Listdev@maven.apache.org Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 12:03 PM I agree :-) Arnaud On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Lukas Theusslltheu...@apache.org wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 On 1/26/11 1:30 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
2011/1/26 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote: +1 On 1/26/11 1:30 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
You should publish a fax number for people who wish to join the group. From my phone, Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 15:59 skrev nicolas de loof nicolas.del...@gmail.com: 2011/1/26 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
+ 1 also it's good to set a footer so that people understand that young on a phone can sometimes give incorrect words (though with swype things are usually only one mistake pet surrender) - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On 26 Jan 2011 14:59, nicolas de loof nicolas.del...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/26 John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
I would even go further and say that if it's not a vote, a +1 or I agree by themselves don't really add to the conversation. In general, no response means either I agree or I don't care enough to respond, so do what you want. If a proposal or discussion item is put forward, it's normally safe to assume that unless someone speaks up, people are ok with it. So at a minimum for non-vote items, I would prefer I agree because..., or I disagree because On 01/26/2011 05:44 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
On 1/26/11 10:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: You should publish a fax number for people who wish to join the group. You shouldn't joke...my mother gets tech-support questions about her website via fax. ;-) From my phone, Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 15:59 skrev nicolas de loofnicolas.del...@gmail.com: 2011/1/26 John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
So you can use her fax machine and ppl can page your beeper when they've sent a fax! Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 16:25 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: On 1/26/11 10:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: You should publish a fax number for people who wish to join the group. You shouldn't joke...my mother gets tech-support questions about her website via fax. ;-) From my phone, Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 15:59 skrev nicolas de loofnicolas.del...@gmail.com: 2011/1/26 John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
-1 I'm all for keeping it short, it works well with IRC, and other forums, +1 / -1 are easy to pick out in threads by just scanning them quickly. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: So you can use her fax machine and ppl can page your beeper when they've sent a fax! Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 16:25 skrev John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org: On 1/26/11 10:09 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: You should publish a fax number for people who wish to join the group. You shouldn't joke...my mother gets tech-support questions about her website via fax. ;-) From my phone, Kristian Den 26. jan. 2011 kl. 15:59 skrev nicolas de loofnicolas.del...@gmail.com: 2011/1/26 John Caseyjdca...@commonjava.org Apologies if my addition to the veto thread was what touched this off. :-) It was a combination of using a phone for email for the first time (yes, I know, I must be some kind of Luddite), I also sent my first mail from my first web-enabled mobile phone yesterday - shall we create a group page on linkedIn ? :P Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- John Casey Developer, PMC Member - Apache Maven (http://maven.apache.org) Blog: http://www.johnofalltrades.name/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: '+1' vs 'I agree'
For me the difference between +1 I agree and +0 I don't care is relevant. Especially if you're fixing a problem, but your solution isn't 100% perfect, it's interesting to know if people are daily annoyed by this problem or don't care. If you see many +1's, there might be even just cause to ignore a single -1 :) Op 26-01-11 16:23, Paul Gier schreef: I would even go further and say that if it's not a vote, a +1 or I agree by themselves don't really add to the conversation. In general, no response means either I agree or I don't care enough to respond, so do what you want. If a proposal or discussion item is put forward, it's normally safe to assume that unless someone speaks up, people are ok with it. So at a minimum for non-vote items, I would prefer I agree because..., or I disagree because On 01/26/2011 05:44 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote: This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal vote threads? thanks, -Lukas (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 Wayne On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Changes Plugin version 2.4
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Lukas Theussl ltheu...@apache.org wrote: Dennis Lundberg wrote: Hi On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Benjamin Bentmann benjamin.bentm...@udo.edu wrote: Dennis Lundberg wrote: Staging repo: https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-072/ Staging site: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-changes-plugin-2.4/ +1 Not sure whether this is expected from the staging site but the links changes.xml and changes.xsd below the Reference menu in the left nav bar yield 404s. A quick check tells me that the same problem can be found on the 2.3 staging site as well, but both files are available (with the correct date) on the last production site deploy. So we should be OK for the final site deploy, but I'll have a closer look tonight to see if I can fix it for staging as well. The modello-plugin runs in the pre-site phase, but I suppose you just used the (documented) site:stage-deploy goal without running 'site' first, so the xsd was not generated. Yes, that's right. The documented release procedure for staging a plugins site is not correct. When deploying the real site, this is not a problem. This will be no issue in site-plugin-2.3, see http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSITE-533. Unitl that is released and used, the workaround is to run 'mvn site' prior to running 'mvn site:stage-deploy -Preporting' Cheers, -Lukas Benjamin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Dennis Lundberg
Re: Invite Evgeny Mandrikov to join Maven committers
+1 On 26/01/2011, at 5:30 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote: Hello, I propose Evgeny Mandrikov as a new committer. He as done a lot of patches for Maven SCM, he is a Mojo and Sonar contributor @codehaus. Vote is open for 72H. Here my +1. Thanks, -- Olivier Lamy http://twitter.com/olamy http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org -- Brett Porter br...@apache.org http://brettporter.wordpress.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Regarding MNG-3321 - Support for Skipping Plugin Execution
Hi, I recently came across this situation in my own project where I wanted to skip some plugin executions during a standard maven build. I could not find a straight forward way to accomplish this (as described in MNG-3321) and so thought of implementing this feature. I checked out the source yesterday and after some analysis here are my two options about going to implement this feature: Option 1: 1. The DefaultLifecycleExecutionPlanCalculatorhttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-3/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/lifecycle/internal/DefaultLifecycleExecutionPlanCalculator.java?revision=1061589view=markup's calculateLifecycleMappings method computes the applicable executions for a given life cycle phase. This method also has access to the MavenSession which holds the user supplied properties. So, a property like -Dskip.plugin:org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin is available to this method. 2. Line 256 of this method loops over all plugins of the current project and for each plugin, it extracts all the applicable executions (depending on the life cycle phase) and returns these executions. 3. It is here that I would like to introduce this skip filtering. Basically consult the MavenSession for every plugin/execution and check if its supposed to be skipped. If yes, then *do not* add it to the returned list of executions. Option 2: 1. The DefaultBuildPluginManagerhttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/maven-3/trunk/maven-core/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugin/DefaultBuildPluginManager.java?revision=1042237view=markup's executeMojo method executes the given MojoExecution. This method also has access to the MavenSession which holds the user supplied properties. 2. I can introduce a guard clause at line 73, to check against the session and determine if this execution be skipped or not. To me both options seem viable for implementation but I might be missing something. In case you prefer any specific option or if there's a simpler way to do this, will you please point them out. Sincere Regards, Kalyan C. Akella
Japanese file names cannot be correctly assembled by maven-assembly-plugin
I am successfully created the distribution zip file but when I add a file which is in Japanese character file name, it is include in the zip file but the file name was garbled. How to reproduce: add a file to be included in the distribution which file name is in Japanese character. i will provide a sample file. sample file name: 新規ドキュメント.xml Environment: Windows XP SP3 Japanese, Eclipse Ganymede 3.4.2 Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Japanese file names cannot be correctly assembled by maven-assembly-plugin
You should file an issue ticket to make sure that this is handled properly. Include the steps on how to reproduce, like you did in your mail. Also, including a test project will make is easier for anyone to have a look and therefore increasing the likelihood of getting this fixed. I'm assuming you're using the maven-assembly-plugin to create the distro zip? In that case, here's info on how to report issues on that project: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-assembly-plugin/issue-tracking.html /Anders 2011/1/27 GMLチェックツール gml.check.t...@gmail.com I am successfully created the distribution zip file but when I add a file which is in Japanese character file name, it is include in the zip file but the file name was garbled. How to reproduce: add a file to be included in the distribution which file name is in Japanese character. i will provide a sample file. sample file name: 新規ドキュメント.xml Environment: Windows XP SP3 Japanese, Eclipse Ganymede 3.4.2 Thanks in advance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
Re: Japanese file names cannot be correctly assembled by maven-assembly-plugin
be aware that the jar specification has a different filename encoding than the zip specification (perhaps because at the time sun wasn't thinking) you may have hit this issue... this is why there is a truezip maven plugin if I recall correctly - Stephen --- Sent from my Android phone, so random spelling mistakes, random nonsense words and other nonsense are a direct result of using swype to type on the screen On 27 Jan 2011 07:10, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote: