Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release schedule

[Geertjan Wielenga]

NetCAT-as-a-Service.

Gh

On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 17:01, Eric Barboni  wrote:

> Hi Neil, Hi Jiri,
>
> The branding wiki was created but not reviewed. It's based on
> wiki.netbeans checklist I found, but not complete I guess.(handle with
> care).
>
> I like the idea of the "Lite NetCAT" or NetCAT on demand with focus to
> specifc feature.
>
> Regards
> Eric
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Neil C Smith 
> Envoyé : mardi 14 mai 2019 14:32
> À : dev 
> Objet : Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release schedule
>
> On Tue, 14 May 2019 at 13:04, Jiří Kovalský 
> wrote:
> > thanks a lot for taking the time and putting this plan together!
>
> Thanks!
>
> > I like the LTS idea of annual feature releases in April with
> > full-fledged NetCAT programs. I assume that only these LTS releases
> > would have Update Centers, wouldn't they?
>
> That's an interesting question!  My inclination would be they should still
> have UCs.  I wonder how many RCP people are using the Ant scripts and the
> ability to set up autoupdate.catalog.url to download the harness for
> example?  Or is that just me now?!  We would need to be careful of all
> other uses of UCs, and may still want the ability to push critical /
> security-related updates to non-LTS?
>
> Incidentally, there is already a page for what is currently done in the
> release branch but not in master at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Branding
>  Need to check if it's complete, and what given potential splash PR still
> would need looking at in order to release from master if that was desirable.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS} Apache NetBeans Gradle Patch 1 Release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent! Can you also describe the optimal way of overwriting the files?
I.e., is in here an actual patch which we can via a git command incorporate
into a clone of the main repo?

Gj

On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 19:38, Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I was able to assemble something. Please check it and share your
> thought:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-gradle-patch-release/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/dist/netbeans-11.0-gradle-patch-1-source.zip
>
> It is not the final one though.
>
> In order to build that you need to download the 11.0 sources and
> overwrite the files from the patch source. The actual patch is a bit
> more than it normally should as it contains another PR-1206 (
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1206) in order to be able to be
> buildable with the recent infrastructure changes around netbeans.org.
>
> So what's remaining:
>
>   * Increase the impl versiosns of the changed modules
>   * Extend the build instructions in README.MD
>   * Call for a vote
>   * Update the hosted patches:
>  1. I'd overwrite the nbms in the release area of 11.0
>  2. Wait 24 hours for the mirrors to pick up
>  3. Update the changed sections in update.xml.gz on the netbeans-vm
>   * Send announcement to the netbeans announcement list, as it is just a
> patch, I do not think we need to announce it on global Apache level,
> do we?
>
>
> On 4/26/19 10:57 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > As Gradle was a new out-of-the box feature, I've received some
> > issues/feedback. I've already fixed some of them.
> >
> > I would like to do a release of those changes. Those fixes might be
> > not that important, but what I'm really curious, that actually can we,
> > and how can we roll out such a partial patch release?
> >
> > My plan is the following:
> >
> >  1. Branch the current release into something like:
> > release110-gradle-patch-1
> >  2. Cherry Pick the required changes
> >  3. Increase the patch version (3rd number on the affected modules (I
> > guess only gradle and gradle.java)
> >  4. Set up a jenkins job for that branch to release.
> >  5. The release artifacts would be
> >  1. The new nbm modules from gradle and gradle.java
> >  2. The source artifact would contain those module sources only.
> >  3. I do not know what to put in there exactly:
> >  1. The sources of the two modules keeping the directory
> > structure. so that would be in groovy/gradle and
> > groovy/gradle.java
> >  2. LICENSE and NOTICE files
> >  3. Is there a way to generate the DEPENDENCIES file only for
> > two modules?
> >  6. Do the PGP signing with my key
> >  7. Start a vote on the artifacts
> >  8. If the vote would be successful:
> >  1.  I'd upload the source artifact next to our release 11.0 one.
> >  2. I'd upload the binary nbm-s into the 11.0 distribution UC
> >  3. I do not know how to updates.xml, probably I keep the one
> > generated for the whole NB from step 5 and overwrite the
> > current one.
> >  9. Again I do not know how much announcement we shall make with this
> > release, maybe a just our announcement list would be enough.
> >
> > Please think it through! Is this feasible, what else shall be done, do
> > I have some misconceptions, etc. ?
> >
> > Also would like to have a peer feedback from our Release Manager Emilian.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
>

Re: UML Status

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition

Yes, upcoming, will be some time still, after C/C++ etc.

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:18 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> What is the status of bringing in the UML plugs (if memory serves this may
> be part of community contribution)?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release schedule

[Geertjan Wielenga]

We’re a friendly community and I imagine happy to unwind decisions if
needed.

I recommend you send a mail with LAZY CONSENSUS in the subject, outline the
release plan, specify 72 hours for objections, or otherwise you’ll then go
ahead with it. Everyone who cares should be aware of your plan at this
point anyway.

Gj


On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 18:35, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 17:14, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd recommend using lazy consensus rather than voting. I think it's great
> > and you should go ahead.
>
> I'm happy with that too if you prefer.  Shall we vote on it? :-)
>
> So, let's turn this into a prod to raise concerns in the next week
> instead?!
>
> Only reason I suggested vote is that it maybe gets more people to buy
> in or raise a -1 than a discussion thread?  I've curated things
> various people have said in the past into what feels like a viable
> plan.  But I'm wary of setting a precedent in how I think we should do
> 11.1 that causes unforeseen issues down the line that are difficult to
> unwind.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Draft release schedule

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I'd recommend using lazy consensus rather than voting. I think it's great
and you should go ahead.

Gj

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:12 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Quick bump, just to see if there are any further thoughts on this?
>
> If there aren't objections I'd really like to run a vote thread on
> this next week - not the whole text - lots still to discuss - just key
> points around release dates, LTS, version numbering and feature/master
> freeze.  Basically anything that affects how we do the next release
> and whether we archive 11.0 or not.
>
> If we are freezing master for a month in mid-June, it would also be
> good to decide and advertise that by end of next week or so?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Lack of submissions for learning trail

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent and thanks for your hard work!

Gj

On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 12:44, Jeremy Cavanagh 
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I must apologise for my rather abrupt termination of submissions for
> revising the java netbeans learning trail but a string of events
> overcame me. The most serious is a near complete failure with the
> Orange.fr network which went down at the beginning of March and now is
> not likely to be rectified until sometime next month.
>
> This email was possible in one of the few occasions where I get some
> service but it is incredibly slow and unreliable.
>
> So once again I apologise and will return as and when I can.
>
> Kindest regards to all.
>
> Jeremy
>
> P.S., you have been very busy bees judging by the emails I have to sift
> through. Keep up the exceptional work!
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Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

That sounds great.

Also, I believe the mentions of 12.1 should be removed here, i.e., in the
Release column in the table, there should now only be 11.x, if I'm right?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Gj

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:59 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 11:49, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
> >
> > That's it, that's what I'll be linking into netbeans.apache.org.
>
> Yep, that's it!
>
> As for your other question, there's a NB 11.1 label in GitHub - this
> was already there, but I changed the description last week.
>
> Perhaps we should also have an NB 11.2 one for things that are mostly
> complete but we think we should hold back on until the merge window
> reopens post NB 11.1?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

That's it, that's what I'll be linking into netbeans.apache.org.

Gj

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:34 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Also how must we tag the PRs that we want to be sure to remind ourselves
> to include in 11.1.
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 12:33, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, esp. Neil,
>>
>> Can we link the Wiki page providing all the info re 11.1 release plan
>> from netbeans.apache.org, so everyone can see it, sure a work in
>> progress, etc, but so that we have one central reference point?
>>
>> I am happy to do it if Neil can specify exactly which Wiki page that is.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>

Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I get it, sure.

But now it looks more like a template than a concrete schedule.

But, sure, I get it, now that I get it.

Gj


On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 13:53, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 12:01 Geertjan Wielenga,  wrote:
>
> > Also, I believe the mentions of 12.1 should be removed here, i.e., in the
> > Release column in the table, there should now only be 11.x, if I'm right?
> >
>
> Why? The idea was to demonstrate how the same schedule could work from year
> to year. Maybe that could be clarified?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>

11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all, esp. Neil,

Can we link the Wiki page providing all the info re 11.1 release plan from
netbeans.apache.org, so everyone can see it, sure a work in progress, etc,
but so that we have one central reference point?

I am happy to do it if Neil can specify exactly which Wiki page that is.

Gj

Saturday, June 15: 11.1 Feature Freeze

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Don't say nobody warned you, heads up:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Thanks!

Gj

Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I say go for it for 11.1 if you’re ready now.

Gj

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 15:01, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Where do we want to see Java EE 8 support added?  Should we hold off until
> 11.2, or do you want me to get a PR ready for 11.1?  The PR will contain
> changes to a number of the modules within the enterprise cluster.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 7:04 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > I get it, sure.
> >
> > But now it looks more like a template than a concrete schedule.
> >
> > But, sure, I get it, now that I get it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 13:53, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 12:01 Geertjan Wielenga, 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also, I believe the mentions of 12.1 should be removed here, i.e., in
> > the
> > > > Release column in the table, there should now only be 11.x, if I'm
> > right?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why? The idea was to demonstrate how the same schedule could work from
> > year
> > > to year. Maybe that could be clarified?
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> >
> --
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
> <https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866>
>

Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Also how must we tag the PRs that we want to be sure to remind ourselves to
include in 11.1.

Gj

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 12:33, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

> Hi all, esp. Neil,
>
> Can we link the Wiki page providing all the info re 11.1 release plan from
> netbeans.apache.org, so everyone can see it, sure a work in progress,
> etc, but so that we have one central reference point?
>
> I am happy to do it if Neil can specify exactly which Wiki page that is.
>
> Gj
>

Re: 11.1 info publicly available

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Awesome.

Gj

On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 at 22:39, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback everyone.  I will work on getting a PR together
> for 11.1 inclusion.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau
>
> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > Note: Apache projects do not compete, they exist to serve those who want
> to
> > use them, but are explicitly not in competition with any other projects
> out
> > there.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:46 PM Kenneth Fogel  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> +1 on EE 8 in 11.1
> >> We can't fall too far behind E & I. Plus, I'll want to show it off at
> the
> >> IDE Wars session I'm on at Code One in September.
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> >> Sent: June 4, 2019 6:33 AM
> >> To: dev 
> >> Subject: 11.1 info publicly available
> >>
> >> Hi all, esp. Neil,
> >>
> >> Can we link the Wiki page providing all the info re 11.1 release plan
> from
> >> netbeans.apache.org, so everyone can see it, sure a work in progress,
> >> etc, but so that we have one central reference point?
> >>
> >> I am happy to do it if Neil can specify exactly which Wiki page that is.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities nbm-maven-plugin version 4.2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Gj

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:33 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
>
>
>
> I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities
> nbm-maven-plugin version
>
> 4.2
>
>
>
> This is a Apache Maven plugin that make possible to use Maven for
> developing
> Apache NetBeans Platform instead of Apache Ant
>
>
>
> Changes since mojohaus:
>
> - The plugin can handle jars build up to jdk 12  (not tested on jdk 13)
>
> - Fix 64-bit JDK detection
>
>
>
> Note:
>
> Due to change in the groupID, NetBeans IDE may not recognize the plugin
>
>
>
> The voting artefacts sources are located here:
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nbm
> -maven-plugin/nbm-maven-plugin-4.2/
> 
>
>
>
> In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nbm-maven-plugin
>
> with the commit id 659a5fecaaade1b11f26813b5c6b5e530d92e083(tag
> nbm-maven-plugin-4.2)
>
> are staged in the following repository:
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1032/
>
>
>
> Key file is here:
>
>
>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
>
>
>
> The vote is open for at least 72h.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> Eric Barboni (skygo)
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans utilities nb-repository-plugin version 1.4

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Gj

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 8:32 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
>
> I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans utilities
> nb-repository-plugin version
> 1.4
>
> This is a Apache Maven plugin that help populating a maven repository with
> netbeans materials.
> This what we use to populate the maven artefacts to maven central.
>
> One change since mojohaus
> -The plugin his capable to set a parent in the pom file for artefacts (used
> by us to make each artefact pom, having netbeans parent)
>
> The voting artefacts sources are located here:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-utilities/nb-
> repository-plugin/nb-repository-plugin-1.4/
> 
>
>
> In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nb-repository-plugin
> with the commit id 22bd9464d759248bc95c604debcf224514f28087(tag
> nb-repository-plugin-1.4)
> are staged in the following repository:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1031/
>
> Key file is here:
>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
>
> The vote is open for at least 72h.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Eric Barboni (skygo)
>
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Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I believe so, but cannot confirm with 100% certainty.

Is there a way we can provide this certainty, i.e., is this something we
can decide ourselves or do we need to have this approved by Apache -- does
anyone know?

Thanks,

Gj


On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:12 AM Kodewerk  wrote:

> Hi Gj,
>
> Can you confirm that if we don’t modify source that we can just build,
> package a distribute?
>
> Kind regards,
> Kirk
>
>
> > On May 30, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I could be wrong. Maybe rebranding is not needed if indeed the
> binary
> > is made from unmodified sources.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 23:11, Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk,  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we
> >>> needed to rebrand.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well, this is the thread I'm thinking of -
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/072862707d0c75ec72f474d696a1addd994055b0c5b7617d3c7403ca@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Right, thanks a lot for that reference.

What Kirk is looking at doing via AdoptOpenJDK is: "Free copies of Apache
NetBeans software under the Apache License and support services for Apache
NetBeans are available at AdoptOpenJDK."

Meanwhile, since Emilian has modified Apache NetBeans (added some modules,
additional features, etc), the second case in the link you sent applies:
"My own derivative works of Apache NetBeans software and support services
for those derivative works are available as CoolBeans, i.e., under my own
trademarks at my website."

So, based on this, if AdoptOpenJDK make no changes at all, but simply aim
to redistribute the same Apache NetBeans that we release here, they can use
the 'Apache NetBeans' name. However, they would need to redistribute the
binary that we produce in a release, i.e., they couldn't go to the GitHub
repo, do a clone, and then create some subset of it to produce their own
binary -- since that binary could, for example, potentially, provide a
distribution that only contains HTML features, theoretically. They could
not call that Apache NetBeans, even though they haven't modified the
sources in any way?

Gj

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:30 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, 31 May 2019, 09:21 Geertjan Wielenga,  wrote:
>
> > I believe so, but cannot confirm with 100% certainty.
> >
>
> Is there ever 100% certainty?! :-)
>
> The first example of nominative fair use here appears to cover exactly this
> though?
>
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
>
> I assume we might want to clarify the distinction between that and
> derivative though. Eg. Removing modules / clusters, etc.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> >
>

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yeah, I could be wrong. Maybe rebranding is not needed if indeed the binary
is made from unmodified sources.

Gj


On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 23:11, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk,  wrote:
>
> > I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we
> > needed to rebrand.
> >
>
> Well, this is the thread I'm thinking of -
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/072862707d0c75ec72f474d696a1addd994055b0c5b7617d3c7403ca@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> >
>

Re: Updating the NetBeans website page

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Did you see the comment re Past Events? Would be good to respond to that.

Gj

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM mark stephens 
wrote:

> I have added a change to https://netbeans.apache.org/community/events.html
>
> as a pull request at https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/366
>
> Not clear what I should do next to make it live on site….
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> MArk
>
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Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Now that the installer sources are in our GitHub repo:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/master/nbbuild/installer

...thanks to Reema's work here:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1052

Is there anything preventing us from including the installers as
convenience binaries as part of the 11.1 release, instead of having them
available as experimental installers in her repo here:

https://github.com/rtaneja1/incubator-netbeans/tree/installer-bin-11vc4/nbbuild/installer/binaries

Hope so, would be excellent -- the missing official installers is probably
our most requested feature. :-)

Gj

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

But there's several more, e.g., off the top of my head, Pivotal has one and
there's also JetBrains Runtime.

Gj

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:28 PM Eduardo Quintanilla 
wrote:

> I would recommend reading the Java Is Still Free document
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nFGazvrCvHMZJgFstlbzoHjpAVwv5DEdnaBr_5pKuHo/edit?usp=sharing
>
> From  that document
>
> Free Builds for Linux, Windows, Mac, etc. [OpenJDK, no commercial support]:
>
> AdoptOpenJDK (commercial support also available by IBM and jClarity)
> https://adoptopenjdk.net/
>
>
> Amazon Corretto
> https://aws.amazon.com/corretto/
>
>
> Azul Zulu (commercial support also available)
> https://www.azul.com/downloads/zulu/
>
>
> BellSoft Liberica JDK (commercial support also available)
> https://bell-sw.com/java.html
>
>
> Oracle OpenJDK build
> http://jdk.java.net/
>
> SapMachine
> http://sapmachine.io
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eduardo Quintanilla
> Software Developer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: jueves, 30 de mayo de 2019 6:00 a. m.
> To: dev 
> Subject: Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?
>
> Sure, though the question will be 'which JDK'. :-) There's about a dozen
> of them right now.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:52 PM Patrick Musembi 
> wrote:
>
> > Can we also provide a link for downloading jdk if there is no jdk
> > installed mainly because of non-java developers.
> >
> > On Thu, May 30, 2019, 13:22 Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent, thank you for this feedback.
> > >
> > > More from others, welcome.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM mike james <
> > mike.ja...@infomaxgroup.co.uk
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > I'm new so tell me if I'm doing something wrong/odd.
> > > >
> > > > Can I just say that while experienced programmers have no problems
> > > > with "unzip this" and so on NetBeans is a very attractive IDE for
> > > > the complete beginner and an installer lowers the barrier to them
> > > > getting started with NetBeans in particular rather than
> > > alternatives.
> > > > I has to be frictionless - well as much as possible.
> > > > I've tried the installer on Windows and it works very nicely.
> > > > Constructive comment - the final screen might say something more
> > > > to
> > tell
> > > > the newbie where to find NetBeans- Windows does a good job of
> > > > hiding it unless you know its on the
> > desktop.
> > > > mikej
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 9:34 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > >  > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that the installer sources are in our GitHub repo:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/master/nbbuild/installer
> > > > >
> > > > > ...thanks to Reema's work here:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1052
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anything preventing us from including the installers as
> > > > > convenience binaries as part of the 11.1 release, instead of
> > > > > having
> > > them
> > > > > available as experimental installers in her repo here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/rtaneja1/incubator-netbeans/tree/installer-bin-11vc
> > 4/nbbuild/installer/binaries
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope so, would be excellent -- the missing official installers
> > > > > is
> > > > probably
> > > > > our most requested feature. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

NetBeans runs on JDK 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.

But that's not the point in this discussion. The discussion is about
installers -- and just to save some time here, we cannot bundle the JDK
with NetBeans into an installer and then distribute that installer from
Apache because the JDK is GPL licensed, which means it cannot be
distributed from Apache because of Apache's licensing restrictions.

Gj


On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 4:17 PM Mark Ferguson 
wrote:

>  Hi guys, great job.  I follow, but not too good at helping (yet).
> JDK 8 would be a good idea I think.  Build up asap to latest.Do many use
>  methinks.
> On Thursday, 30 May 2019, 14:09:45 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>  OK, let's target beginners. Hmmm which JDK should we focus on? How do
> we decide? There's no way to decide, we cannot decide for beginners or
> anyone else which JDK they should use. No other tool or IDE can do that
> either.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM mike james 
> wrote:
>
> > See I told you it was confusing.
> > I know I'm going on about beginners a lot but you really do need to
> target
> > them.
> > You have got the experienced seasoned user and they aren't going anywhere
> > unless
> > there is a really good reason but the future is in the beginner. If they
> go
> > off to IntelliJ, Eclipse or
> > Visual Studio Code because they sound trendy and have a one click install
> > you have lost the future.
> > mikej
> >
> > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:28 PM Eduardo Quintanilla <
> equintani...@bnext.mx
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would recommend reading the Java Is Still Free document
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nFGazvrCvHMZJgFstlbzoHjpAVwv5DEdnaBr_5pKuHo/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > From  that document
> > >
> > > Free Builds for Linux, Windows, Mac, etc. [OpenJDK, no commercial
> > support]:
> > >
> > > AdoptOpenJDK (commercial support also available by IBM and jClarity)
> > > https://adoptopenjdk.net/
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

OK, let's target beginners. Hmmm which JDK should we focus on? How do
we decide? There's no way to decide, we cannot decide for beginners or
anyone else which JDK they should use. No other tool or IDE can do that
either.

Gj

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM mike james 
wrote:

> See I told you it was confusing.
> I know I'm going on about beginners a lot but you really do need to target
> them.
> You have got the experienced seasoned user and they aren't going anywhere
> unless
> there is a really good reason but the future is in the beginner. If they go
> off to IntelliJ, Eclipse or
> Visual Studio Code because they sound trendy and have a one click install
> you have lost the future.
> mikej
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:28 PM Eduardo Quintanilla  >
> wrote:
>
> > I would recommend reading the Java Is Still Free document
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nFGazvrCvHMZJgFstlbzoHjpAVwv5DEdnaBr_5pKuHo/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > From  that document
> >
> > Free Builds for Linux, Windows, Mac, etc. [OpenJDK, no commercial
> support]:
> >
> > AdoptOpenJDK (commercial support also available by IBM and jClarity)
> > https://adoptopenjdk.net/
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

OK, which one?

Gj

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM mike james 
wrote:

> Yes go for the installer - important to get new users no question about it.
> And I follow about licencing problem (sometimes I think FOSS licensing is
> also too confusing for mortals).
> But - at least pick one and include instructions on how to install it.
> It doesn't have to be the best or have anything special about - just
> something to get started with.
> Sometimes what matters is having something definite to get going and then
> you can make changes later.
> mikej
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:19 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > NetBeans runs on JDK 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.
> >
> > But that's not the point in this discussion. The discussion is about
> > installers -- and just to save some time here, we cannot bundle the JDK
> > with NetBeans into an installer and then distribute that installer from
> > Apache because the JDK is GPL licensed, which means it cannot be
> > distributed from Apache because of Apache's licensing restrictions.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Where am I going wrong in building NetBeans source

[Geertjan Wielenga]

What version of Ant is installed needs to be checked.

Gj

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:56, Jose Ch  wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> I just compile the sources an hour ago without problems, I use
> openJ9-8u212 JDK and *ant -Dcluster.confg=release *to build the sources.
> Perhaps there is a newer commit that broke the building.
>
> Regards
> José.
>
> El lun., 3 jun. 2019 a las 11:35, mark stephens (<
> marksteph...@idrsolutions.com>) escribió:
>
>> I redownloaded the master and ran under Java8 to check I had not
>> donwloaded the wrong jars and I now get this
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> MArk
>>
>> compile-bridge:
>> [mkdir] Created dir:
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build/bridge-classes
>> [javac] Compiling 7 source files to
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build/bridge-classes
>>[repeat] warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in
>> conjunction with -source 1.6
>>[repeat]
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build/public-package-jars/org-netbeans-api-annotations-common.jar(org/netbeans/api/annotations/common/NonNull.class):
>> warning: Cannot find annotation method 'when()' in type 'Nonnull': class
>> file for javax.annotation.Nonnull not found
>>[repeat] warning: unknown enum constant When.ALWAYS
>>[repeat]   reason: class file for javax.annotation.meta.When not found
>>[repeat]
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/src-bridge/org/apache/tools/ant/module/bridge/impl/BridgeImpl.java:149:
>> error: cannot assign a value to final variable systemClasspath
>>[repeat] Path.systemClasspath = new Path(null,
>> AntBridge.getMainClassPath());
>>[repeat] ^
>>[repeat]
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/src-bridge/org/apache/tools/ant/module/bridge/impl/NbInputHandler.java:107:
>> warning: [unchecked] unchecked call to JComboBox(Vector) as a member of
>> the raw type JComboBox
>>[repeat] combo = new
>> JComboBox(((MultipleChoiceInputRequest)request).getChoices());
>>[repeat] ^
>>[repeat]   where E is a type-variable:
>>[repeat] E extends Object declared in class JComboBox
>>[repeat] 1 error
>>[repeat] 4 warnings
>>   [nbmerge] Failed to build target: all-o.apache.tools.ant.module
>>
>> BUILD FAILED
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:512: The
>> following error occurred while executing this line:
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:507: The
>> following error occurred while executing this line:
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:554: The
>> following error occurred while executing this line:
>> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build.xml:38:
>> Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details.
>>
>> Total time: 3 minutes 3 seconds
>>
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Re: Where am I going wrong in building NetBeans source

[Geertjan Wielenga]

So try a higher version and see if it helps.

Gj

On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 23:13, mark stephens 
wrote:

> I am running 1.10.0
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans says to use Ant 1.9.9 or above
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> MArk
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 19:18, Geertjan Wielenga  geert...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> What version of Ant is installed needs to be checked.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 18:56, Jose Ch  pepnes...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> I just compile the sources an hour ago without problems, I use
> openJ9-8u212 JDK and *ant -Dcluster.confg=release *to build the sources.
> Perhaps there is a newer commit that broke the building.
>
> Regards
> José.
>
> El lun., 3 jun. 2019 a las 11:35, mark stephens (<
> marksteph...@idrsolutions.com<mailto:marksteph...@idrsolutions.com>>)
> escribió:
>
> I redownloaded the master and ran under Java8 to check I had not
> donwloaded the wrong jars and I now get this
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> MArk
>
> compile-bridge:
>[mkdir] Created dir:
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build/bridge-classes
>[javac] Compiling 7 source files to
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build/bridge-classes
>   [repeat] warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in
> conjunction with -source 1.6
>   [repeat]
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build/public-package-jars/org-netbeans-api-annotations-common.jar(org/netbeans/api/annotations/common/NonNull.class):
> warning: Cannot find annotation method 'when()' in type 'Nonnull': class
> file for javax.annotation.Nonnull not found
>   [repeat] warning: unknown enum constant When.ALWAYS
>   [repeat]   reason: class file for javax.annotation.meta.When not found
>   [repeat]
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/src-bridge/org/apache/tools/ant/module/bridge/impl/BridgeImpl.java:149:
> error: cannot assign a value to final variable systemClasspath
>   [repeat] Path.systemClasspath = new Path(null,
> AntBridge.getMainClassPath());
>   [repeat] ^
>   [repeat]
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/src-bridge/org/apache/tools/ant/module/bridge/impl/NbInputHandler.java:107:
> warning: [unchecked] unchecked call to JComboBox(Vector) as a member of
> the raw type JComboBox
>   [repeat] combo = new
> JComboBox(((MultipleChoiceInputRequest)request).getChoices());
>   [repeat] ^
>   [repeat]   where E is a type-variable:
>   [repeat] E extends Object declared in class JComboBox
>   [repeat] 1 error
>   [repeat] 4 warnings
>  [nbmerge] Failed to build target: all-o.apache.tools.ant.module
>
> BUILD FAILED
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:512: The
> following error occurred while executing this line:
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:507: The
> following error occurred while executing this line:
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:554: The
> following error occurred while executing this line:
>
> /Users/markee/Downloads/netbeans-master/extide/o.apache.tools.ant.module/build.xml:38:
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>
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Re: C++/cnd cluster

[Geertjan Wielenga]

It's scheduled for September:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap

Just install the C/C++ modules from the 8.2 update center in the meantime
or why not use coolbeans.xyz?

Gj

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:24 AM Alexander Graf  wrote:

> Hey all,
> I am desperately waiting for C++ to become available in Apache Netbeans
> releases. From [1] I can see that the cnd cluster is in progress in step
> 5g
> labeled "Review of NetBeans repositories to be donated to Apache". Is this
> a
> community job I can help with (please elaborate) or do we have to wait for
> Oracle to complete this internally?
>
> Thank you
> Alex
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
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Re: C++/cnd cluster

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Firstly, join this mailing list (right now I need to approve each e-mail
you send here):

https://netbeans.apache.org/community/mailing-lists.html

Secondly, sources at Oracle are free and open source, here:

https://hg.netbeans.org/releases/file

Not sure what would be the best way to create a C/C++ plugin on top of cnd
right now, could be quite hacky.

Gj

On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 10:45 AM Alexander Graf  wrote:

> > or why not use coolbeans.xyz?>
> Thank you Geertjan for mentioning, it was new to me.
>
> Actually, I seek to experiment with the cnd cluster sources. Maybe
> eventually
> creating a plugin on top. I have worked with the nb platform before, but
> I'm a
> bit confused about the different repositories at this stage. What is the
> best
> way to develop a plugin on top of cnd right now without a forced restart
> at
> the September release?
>
> Alex
>
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Re: Issue with JaCoCo in NB 11 including possible fix

[Geertjan Wielenga]

We agree and the pull request would be awesome! :-)

Gj

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 19:04, Mark Herkrath 
wrote:

> Hi community.
>
> I have written the original mail as per instructions on the NB site.
> JaCoCo is effectively not working with NB 11 unless configured in a
> non-standard way. I have spent some time in analyzing and fixing this issue
> (for me). I am happy to contribute the fix to everyone, but somebody
> entitled needs to agree. Then I provide a pull request.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> > Am 23.05.2019 um 18:34 schrieb Mark Herkrath :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running into issues with JaCoCo in NB 11. It was working well in NB
> 10.
> >
> > The problem is the following, it got introduced by NETBEANS-1768 -
> "CodeCoverage doesn't work when custom outputDirectory is used in a
> PluginExecution":
> >
> > In the change done, it is tested if the predetermined JaCoCo output
> directory exists. If it doesn't exist, the outputDirectory variable is
> overwritten by the outputDirectory configuration of the JaCoCoreport
> goal. However, if this is not defined, the outputDirectory variable becomes
> null. As a result, the file is being watched via FileChangeAdapter becomes
> C:\Program Files\NetBeans 11.0\bin\jacoco.xml, or similar.
> >
> > Now, often the Maven target directory, or at least the JaCoCo output
> directory, doesn't exist yet when the Code Coverage report is opened. Due
> to the issue described above, NB doesn't detect when jacoco.xml becomes
> available and claims that there is no data yet.
> >
> > As per my understanding NETBEANS-1768 was fixed incorrectly. The fix
> should have been only to change line 128:
> > outputDirectory = PluginPropertyUtils.getPluginProperty(p, GROUP_JOCOCO,
> ARTIFACT_JOCOCO, "outputDirectory", null, null);
> > to
> > outputDirectory = PluginPropertyUtils.getPluginProperty(p, GROUP_JOCOCO,
> ARTIFACT_JOCOCO, "outputDirectory", "report", null);
> >
> > As a result, the outputDirectory setting will be taken from the report
> goal level but it will still picked up correctly if the plug configuration
> is done at plugin level for example.
> >
> > I have commented about this issue at NETBEANS-1997, which was reopened
> by someone else. Possibly it would be better to create a new ticket. JaCoCo
> 0.8.3 is working well for me after applying the above change.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
>

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

“Adopt NetBeans” would not only be a name, it would also be a ‘call to
action’. :-)

Gj

On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 19:23, Matthias Bläsing 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 09:46 -0700 schrieb Kodewerk:
> > The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to
> > sort out what is needed to make that happen. For example, I believe
> > we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re thinking of calling
> > it Adopt-NetBeans. This implies that there a number of things we need
> > to alter as part of the rebranding. Is there anything else that needs
> > to be done before Adopt could distribute NetBeans?
>
> this sound awesome. Indeed AdoptOpenJDK is in a very good position to
> create a full working NetBeans distribution together with a JDK and
> maybe even jlinked.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, the name is trademarked and the ASF requires, that
> derivates may not be called the original project name (as you rightly
> put it). I'm aware of CoolBeans a project from Emilian Bold and
> essentially a NetBeans distribution. I think Adopt NetBeans sounds
> good.
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
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Re: JIRA permissions / releases?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README

See "5. Creating tag for the Release" in the above.

Hope it helps,

Gj


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> Hi,
>
> I'd like to set up release tags for 11.1 and 11.2 in JIRA.  Am I
> missing where to add this, or just missing the relevant permissions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
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Re: JIRA permissions / releases?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Refresh the page, you should see 11.1 and 11.2 now.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:57 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:54, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > I can do it here, I think:
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:release-page
> >
> > Can you?
>
> Not that I can see - that's the page I was looking for it on.
>
> Neil
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Re: JIRA permissions / releases?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Or that's not JIRA, I suppose.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:51 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>
> See "5. Creating tag for the Release" in the above.
>
> Hope it helps,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to set up release tags for 11.1 and 11.2 in JIRA.  Am I
>> missing where to add this, or just missing the relevant permissions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: JIRA permissions / releases?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I can do it here, I think:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS?selectedItem=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:release-page

Can you?

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:52 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Or that's not JIRA, I suppose.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:51 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README
>>
>> See "5. Creating tag for the Release" in the above.
>>
>> Hope it helps,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:44 PM Neil C Smith 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to set up release tags for 11.1 and 11.2 in JIRA.  Am I
>>> missing where to add this, or just missing the relevant permissions?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> -
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Maybe that PR should be for the 11.1 release only? Jiri Kovalsky, hope
you’re following this discussion.

Gj


On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:48, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

> Ah, that makes sense! Indeed, that update center doesn’t exist yet.
>
> Gj
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:44, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 20:18, Geertjan Wielenga 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself or
>> > whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary from
>> the
>> > Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update center
>> to
>> > get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you
>> can't do
>> > it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?
>>
>> This isn't correct - I see exactly the same issue - the update center
>> link building from master that Ken links to doesn't exist.
>>
>> Adding back the old Plugin Portal link from NB11.0 does get everything
>> to work again.
>>
>> http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/updates/11.0/catalog.xml.gz
>>
>> Looks like https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1293 is broken?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Ah, that makes sense! Indeed, that update center doesn’t exist yet.

Gj

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:44, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 20:18, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself or
> > whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary from
> the
> > Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update center to
> > get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you can't
> do
> > it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?
>
> This isn't correct - I see exactly the same issue - the update center
> link building from master that Ken links to doesn't exist.
>
> Adding back the old Plugin Portal link from NB11.0 does get everything
> to work again.
>
> http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/updates/11.0/catalog.xml.gz
>
> Looks like https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1293 is broken?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

OK, we need to clearly document this, because it's a confusing point each
time.

If I understand it correctly, the update center needs to be created or made
available after the release -- I can't remember why that is, apologies.

Basically, how can we make at least nb-javac and the Oracle JS Parser
available so that the kind of problem we're seeing with daily builds and
those who do the builds themselves won't have this problem.

Gj


On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> Until we create the "latest" version of Update Center please try to
> replace the URL with
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/12/catalog-experimental.xml
>
> It does not contain any useful stuff but should work.
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 14. 06. 19 v 15:50 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > Maybe that PR should be for the 11.1 release only? Jiri Kovalsky, hope
> > you’re following this discussion.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:48, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, that makes sense! Indeed, that update center doesn’t exist yet.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:44, Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 20:18, Geertjan Wielenga 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself or
> >>>> whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary from
> >>> the
> >>>> Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update center
> >>> to
> >>>> get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you
> >>> can't do
> >>>> it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?
> >>>
> >>> This isn't correct - I see exactly the same issue - the update center
> >>> link building from master that Ken links to doesn't exist.
> >>>
> >>> Adding back the old Plugin Portal link from NB11.0 does get everything
> >>> to work again.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plugins.netbeans.org_nbpluginportal_updates_11.0_catalog.xml.gz=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=V2BAPcVgw_1m6mlOznIiGlLV4pwVxj-GBFK09M4151A=YtFd7gX2dvkStfiwYeEBpJfBH-eoyvSnhhxVJxvnVMI=
> >>>
> >>> Looks like
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_netbeans_pull_1293=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=V2BAPcVgw_1m6mlOznIiGlLV4pwVxj-GBFK09M4151A=0GNaHPrlmuTJvaKmmnuQ1Z68Wn5h_VB42Ivr049Elnk=
> is broken?
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Neil
> >>>
> >>> -
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> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=V2BAPcVgw_1m6mlOznIiGlLV4pwVxj-GBFK09M4151A=I7rAUGLBhrBlHXlEOOaecsAjnv2CB1dtYOdRF58SKaU=
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: Software Bill of Materials

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi David,

Thanks for this message -- what would a BoM consist of, can it be generated
in some way via Maven, if so, it can also be generated via NetBeans. And,
indeed, maybe we could provide some user interface support, i.e., a menu
item or checkbox somewhere, to enable this.

Thanks,

Gj

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 7:57 PM David Nalley  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've been participating at the periphery of NTIA's Software Component
> Transparency efforts[1] that's focused on Software Bill of Materials.
> One of the side conversations from that has been where to inject this
> in the software building process. Is it properly located in build
> tools like maven or better in IDEs (like Netbeans) or CI tools?
>
> My initial thought is that there's probably no one right answer, and
> there's a place for generating BoMs in a number of different layers.
> It's probably also relatively trivial to build a plugin in Netbeans to
> generate a BoM, but I wanted to solicit the opinion and feedback of
> those who are smarter than I, hence this message.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --David
>
> [1]https://www.ntia.doc.gov/SoftwareTransparency
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Re: NETBEANS-2400 - Advice needed

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Thanks for the great work!

Here's where you get to lead. :-) What would be your proposal, i.e., what's
the ideal path forward from your point of view? Then, let's do that. :-) Or
at least lets discuss based on your preferred approach as a starting point.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:10 PM Pete Whelpton  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would very much like to resolve NETBEANS-2400
> .  The long and short
> of it is that the version of the Amazon AWS SDK currently in NB doesn't
> support the request signing method that newer AWS regions require, so needs
> to be updated.
>
> It's frustrating, because the actual Java code changes will be pretty
> straightforward.  The tricky part is that the AWS SDK has grown massively,
> and is no longer just one .jar, but several, each with their own list of
> dependencies.
>
> I'm unsure how best to handle this dependency issue - its fairly complex
> and I have tried to describe the problem / my questions as best I can my
> latest comment on the Jira ticket.
>
> If any of the NB veterans / gurus could take a look and provide some
> insight/guidance/suggestions when they get a moment, that would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> P
>

Re: Updating the website for the new release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

One thing we need is the complete list of PRs that are new in 11.1. From
that, we can pick the items that are most significant etc.

Is there a way to get such a list?

Gj

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 21:08, Antonio  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have to update the website for the new release. What features do you
> think are worth mentioning? Anyone wants to share a screenshot?
>
> Of course there're big features but it would be great if we mention
> those little things that make people's life better, such as [1].
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://twitter.com/emilianbold/status/1139441028178599936
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Re: NB11.1 inbound - what is NetCAT lite?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes, we don't have a definition of 'NetCAT Lite'. My feeling is that it
means 'we are all NetCAT, together, i.e., no dedicated NetCAT process, but
everyone on all mailing lists kicking the tires, especially in areas where
work has been done'.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:10 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So, it's feature-freeze day for NB11.1 tomorrow*.  That came around
> quick!  I've blocked out some time early next week for branching and
> rolling a first beta - I'll get it up as soon as I can, but bear with
> me if I get stuck on a couple of things as I get my head around the
> process!
>
> Now, one thing I'm still unsure about is what we mean by NetCAT lite?
> I guess we should actually have an email about the release schedule,
> LTS, etc. on netcat@?  My bad, I should have thought about that
> earlier.  But what do we actually say?  Invite people to just try the
> beta?  Highlight specific new  / tribes that we might want to look at
> anything new?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> * I won't be doing the release branch until Monday, just in case
> anything needs to sneak in.  Before and *after* Monday, everything
> that goes into master should be intended for NB11.1 - in an ideal
> world every PR merged from Monday will have a corresponding issue in
> JIRA tagged with 11.1.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: AutoUpdate and Installer hard-coded versions?!

[Geertjan Wielenga]

There's reasons for that. Jirka will explain, I confess I keep
forgetting/not completely understanding this part.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:44 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've cloned the release task list for 11.0 to 11.1 and started
> revising what needs to be done.  Ideally given our faster release
> schedule it would be good to move to everything being configurable in
> the build.  I'm intrigued why we need to keep hard coding release
> versions in the AutoUpdate and Installer classes?!
>
> eg. from https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2677
>
> nb/o.n.upgrader/src/org/netbeans/upgrade/AutoUpgrade.java
>
> nb/autoupdate.pluginimporter/src/org/netbeans/modules/autoupdate/pluginimporter/Installer.java
>
> Given we probably don't need to support import from versions prior to
> 7.2 any more, can we not list and sort available directories and pick
> the first one less than our current version automatically now?  What
> would be the pros and cons of that change?
>
> Incidentally, I'm planning on treading lightly for NB11.1 so would
> probably make that a PR early for NB11.2.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Updating the website for the new release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Thanks. Antonio, if you put up a placeholder page in the same way as the
Features page for 11.0 or as a subpage of that since this is a minor
release off 11.0, I’ll work with you to categorize those PRs.

Seems Payara and Josh’s Java EE 8 work is not merged yet, and probably
other items too, ideally we’d review and integrate, otherwise do for 11.2?

Gj


On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 21:25, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 20:11, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > One thing we need is the complete list of PRs that are new in 11.1. From
> > that, we can pick the items that are most significant etc.
> >
> > Is there a way to get such a list?
>
> Something like
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+merged%3A%3E%3D2019-03-01+sort%3Aupdated-asc+
>
> Filtered as is:pr merged:>=2019-03-01 sort:updated-asc
>
> The date might not be quite right, and some things will have been cherry
> picked.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Does he/do we know how to get it into Maven Central repo?

Gj

On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 22:39, Jan Lahoda  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 8:59 PM Jiří Kovalský 
> wrote:
>
> > BTW, the latest development center for daily builds has been created.
> > Now we only need to get the nbjavac plugin to the Maven Central
> repository.
> >
> > Honzo, can you please take care of that?
> >
>
> I think Arunava is in a better position to do that.
>
> Jan
>
>
> > Thanks a lot,
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 14. 06. 19 v 16:49 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> >
> > > OK, we need to clearly document this, because it's a confusing point
> each
> > > time.
> > >
> > > If I understand it correctly, the update center needs to be created or
> > made
> > > available after the release -- I can't remember why that is, apologies.
> > >
> > > Basically, how can we make at least nb-javac and the Oracle JS Parser
> > > available so that the kind of problem we're seeing with daily builds
> and
> > > those who do the builds themselves won't have this problem.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:46 PM Jiří Kovalský <
> jiri.koval...@oracle.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Until we create the "latest" version of Update Center please try to
> > >> replace the URL with
> > >>
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_pluginportal_data_12_catalog-2Dexperimental.xml=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=240Jr263HCOgrAqisreAXr5Pof2W-Xx_d0ug7kJnqzU=p5mjLDu_1RezV1iB9xBlt62DGEnjmT-8zUAXawHZvf4=
> > >>
> > >> It does not contain any useful stuff but should work.
> > >>
> > >> -Jirka
> > >>
> > >> Dne 14. 06. 19 v 15:50 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > >>> Maybe that PR should be for the 11.1 release only? Jiri Kovalsky,
> hope
> > >>> you’re following this discussion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Gj
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:48, Geertjan Wielenga  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ah, that makes sense! Indeed, that update center doesn’t exist yet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gj
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 15:44, Neil C Smith 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 20:18, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org
> > >
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself
> or
> > >>>>>> whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary
> > from
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update
> > center
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>> get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you
> > >>>>> can't do
> > >>>>>> it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This isn't correct - I see exactly the same issue - the update
> center
> > >>>>> link building from master that Ken links to doesn't exist.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Adding back the old Plugin Portal link from NB11.0 does get
> > everything
> > >>>>> to work again.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__plugins.netbeans.org_nbpluginportal_updates_11.0_catalog.xml.gz=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=V2BAPcVgw_1m6mlOznIiGlLV4pwVxj-GBFK09M4151A=YtFd7gX2dvkStfiwYeEBpJfBH-eoyvSnhhxVJxvnVMI=
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Looks like
> > >>
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_netbeans_pull_1293=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=V2BAPcVgw_1m6mlOznIiGlLV4pwVxj-GBFK09M4151A=0GNaHPrlmuTJvaKmmnuQ1Z68Wn5h_VB42Ivr049Elnk=
> > >> is broken?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best wishes,
> > >>>>>
> > >&

Failing Linux builds: org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,


https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-linux/1130/console


[genlist] Manifest in jar file
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/netbeans-linux/nbbuild/netbeans/groovy/modules/org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar
does not contain tag OpenIDE-Module-Specification-Version


Thanks,


Gj

Re: Failing Linux builds: org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Just please follow the Linux build and check that everything goes OK now.

Gj

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:35 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Excellent, thanks!
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:27 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Gj!
>>
>> Just fixed it on master. I guess that is the root cause of
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2651
>>
>> It's my bad, I'm sorry!
>>
>> On 6/11/19 4:43 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-linux/1130/console
>> >
>> >
>> > [genlist] Manifest in jar file
>> >
>> /home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/netbeans-linux/nbbuild/netbeans/groovy/modules/org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar
>> > does not contain tag OpenIDE-Module-Specification-Version
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> > Gj
>> >
>>
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Re: Failing Linux builds: org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent, thanks!

Gj

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:27 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Thank you Gj!
>
> Just fixed it on master. I guess that is the root cause of
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2651
>
> It's my bad, I'm sorry!
>
> On 6/11/19 4:43 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-linux/1130/console
> >
> >
> > [genlist] Manifest in jar file
> >
> /home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/netbeans-linux/nbbuild/netbeans/groovy/modules/org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar
> > does not contain tag OpenIDE-Module-Specification-Version
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Gj
> >
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Re: AW: [Mentors] Daily builds available via netbeans.apache.org downloadpage?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Added a 'Daily builds' section near the end of
https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html.

Should be live soon.

Gj

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:34 PM Jiří Kovalský 
wrote:

> Any update on this? I still can't seem to find the link to daily builds
> anywhere except our Confluence [1].
>
> [1]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
>
> Let me know if you disagree otherwise I will create a ticket for linking
> the development builds from "Building From Source" section in the latest
> download page [2] tomorrow.
>
> [2]
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html#_building_from_source
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 29. 04. 19 v 14:51 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
>
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I read the thread for sure, but we didn’t have any agreement, right? I
> mean, if it is possible, then we can add such a link, right? Which is not
> there yet.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Daniel Gruno
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2019 14:06
> > An: d...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Mentors] Daily builds available via netbeans.apache.org
> downloadpage?
> >
> > On 3/12/19 1:16 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> So long as we clearly mark it as such, i.e., not as official Apache
> >> release, can we put a link to the daily builds on our our
> >> netbeans.apache.org downloads page -- for purposes of giving people the
> >> opportunity to try things out and provide feedback?
> >
> > Yes, with the big caveat that it's not an official release and may not
> > work at all etc. This needs to be spelled out on any page that links to
> > such downloads. Preferably, daily builds would be on a sub-page by
> > itself, there has to be no doubt in the users mind that this isn't "the
> > official thing".
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >
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Re: Installers for 11.1 release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

All the sources for these generated installers are in Apache NetBeans
GitHub and the entire generation process is handled by the Apache build
process.

Hence there should be nothing preventing these installers as being released
as convenience binaries as part of the 11.1 release.

Gj


On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 15:37,  wrote:

> Production signing of Windows installer is one that I haven't tried yet
> and it is not free.
>
> Other is limited testing of installers.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reema
>
>
> On 17/06/19 6:25 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Excellent, many thanks for this! Definitely the most requested feature
> for
> > Apache NetBeans is installers, so you have done the most important work
> for
> > this release in that sense, many many thanks.
> >
> > What are the open items from your point of view here, the possible risks,
> > the factors to be aware of?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:32 PM  wrote:
> >
> >> Resending with release number typo corrected..
> >>
> >> Hi Geertjan, Neil,
> >>
> >>  I have created build job [1] for generating installers for Windows
> >> and Linux. Mac installer needs to be built locally.
> >>
> >> This build job currently points to zip generated from a daily build job.
> >> But for release build, it should pick up release artifact from release
> >> job [2]. This artifact is generated by Release Manager as per Release
> >> README wiki, wiki has link to old job I think.
> >>
> >> Neil or I can build the installers once release artifact is built.
> >> Please let me know. Signing installers will require code signing
> >> account, as per the steps I followed.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Reema
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__builds.apache.org_view_M-2DR_view_NetBeans_job_netbeans-2Dinstallers_=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=-6tZX5-JMxuvrGsBr_xcJRwEYq2iqRx3RgUrzKhjeu8=Q70FUES266cI_r3GHELrm_QkAVXvy1n2fNQer382_dk=
> >>
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__builds.apache.org_view_M-2DR_view_NetBeans_job_netbeans-2Drelease=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=-6tZX5-JMxuvrGsBr_xcJRwEYq2iqRx3RgUrzKhjeu8=0Kgy3Eb69T1q8Q3sAzchANIif20ho8HO2uXqOaeAr_I=
> >> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__builds.apache.org_view_M-2DR_view_NetBeans_job_netbeans-2Drelease_=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=-6tZX5-JMxuvrGsBr_xcJRwEYq2iqRx3RgUrzKhjeu8=JGlXPdcXKsLatGJAtoJ6YkH2XlFO3JZBLq7ZUODJMEc=
> >
> >>
> >> [3]
> >> _
> >>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Installer-2BBuild-2BSteps-5F=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0=-6tZX5-JMxuvrGsBr_xcJRwEYq2iqRx3RgUrzKhjeu8=jzK9TdrH4a4BT9FIOZlnkMfdQ_M3--dxNk3rmyBVQe4=
> >>
> >>
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Re: Issue with JaCoCo in NB 11 including possible fix

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi Mark,

Can you check that the problem is now solved in beta-1 of 11.1?

Thanks,

Gj


On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 12:35 AM Mark Herkrath
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have created NETBEANS-2652
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2652> and the
> corresponding pull
> request <https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1286>.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 7:36 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > We agree and the pull request would be awesome! :-)
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 19:04, Mark Herkrath  > .invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi community.
> > >
> > > I have written the original mail as per instructions on the NB site.
> > > JaCoCo is effectively not working with NB 11 unless configured in a
> > > non-standard way. I have spent some time in analyzing and fixing this
> > issue
> > > (for me). I am happy to contribute the fix to everyone, but somebody
> > > entitled needs to agree. Then I provide a pull request.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > > Am 23.05.2019 um 18:34 schrieb Mark Herkrath <
> herkr...@googlemail.com
> > >:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am running into issues with JaCoCo in NB 11. It was working well in
> > NB
> > > 10.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is the following, it got introduced by NETBEANS-1768 -
> > > "CodeCoverage doesn't work when custom outputDirectory is used in a
> > > PluginExecution":
> > > >
> > > > In the change done, it is tested if the predetermined JaCoCo output
> > > directory exists. If it doesn't exist, the outputDirectory variable is
> > > overwritten by the outputDirectory configuration of the JaCoCo
> report
> > > goal. However, if this is not defined, the outputDirectory variable
> > becomes
> > > null. As a result, the file is being watched via FileChangeAdapter
> > becomes
> > > C:\Program Files\NetBeans 11.0\bin\jacoco.xml, or similar.
> > > >
> > > > Now, often the Maven target directory, or at least the JaCoCo output
> > > directory, doesn't exist yet when the Code Coverage report is opened.
> Due
> > > to the issue described above, NB doesn't detect when jacoco.xml becomes
> > > available and claims that there is no data yet.
> > > >
> > > > As per my understanding NETBEANS-1768 was fixed incorrectly. The fix
> > > should have been only to change line 128:
> > > > outputDirectory = PluginPropertyUtils.getPluginProperty(p,
> > GROUP_JOCOCO,
> > > ARTIFACT_JOCOCO, "outputDirectory", null, null);
> > > > to
> > > > outputDirectory = PluginPropertyUtils.getPluginProperty(p,
> > GROUP_JOCOCO,
> > > ARTIFACT_JOCOCO, "outputDirectory", "report", null);
> > > >
> > > > As a result, the outputDirectory setting will be taken from the
> report
> > > goal level but it will still picked up correctly if the plug
> > configuration
> > > is done at plugin level for example.
> > > >
> > > > I have commented about this issue at NETBEANS-1997, which was
> reopened
> > > by someone else. Possibly it would be better to create a new ticket.
> > JaCoCo
> > > 0.8.3 is working well for me after applying the above change.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Mark
> > >
> >
>

Re: NB11.1 Feature Freeze - master branch closed except for fixes!

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Great. It is through practical scenarios like this one that we’ll figure
out how and whether our ideas work out.

Gj


On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 21:07, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 19:37, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > So where should that PR 1301 go, i.e., I guess, it should not be merged
> at
> > all unless it should go into 11.1?
>
> Ideally, no, particularly because it's intended for 11.2 anyway.  In
> general, it depends where the urge to merge comes from.  If a PR is
> fairly standalone, then we tag it with NB11.2 and merge when the
> window reopens after the release, after the spec version update and on
> top of any bug fixes.
>
> OTOH, as Jan, I and others discussed here, there might be a need to
> consider a short-lived "next" branch (or in my opinion various feature
> grouped branches) to allow for collaboration while master is closed.
> We agreed to review after NB 11.1 release, and during if it poses a
> problem earlier.
>
> In respect of PR 1301 need to consider whether to revert the commit
> and reapply later, or whether the code is OK to remain in place.
> Either way, it won't be in first beta now.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Updating the website for the new release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.1

I've started putting together a list of what will be in 11.1 -- it's far
from complete.

Can everyone take a look especially if you know you have PRs that will be
in 11.1 for the first time -- and add anything (I'm adding more, just made
a start).

Gj

On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 9:42 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Thanks. Antonio, if you put up a placeholder page in the same way as the
> Features page for 11.0 or as a subpage of that since this is a minor
> release off 11.0, I’ll work with you to categorize those PRs.
>
> Seems Payara and Josh’s Java EE 8 work is not merged yet, and probably
> other items too, ideally we’d review and integrate, otherwise do for 11.2?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 21:25, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 20:11, Geertjan Wielenga 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > One thing we need is the complete list of PRs that are new in 11.1. From
>> > that, we can pick the items that are most significant etc.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to get such a list?
>>
>> Something like
>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Apr+merged%3A%3E%3D2019-03-01+sort%3Aupdated-asc+
>>
>> Filtered as is:pr merged:>=2019-03-01 sort:updated-asc
>>
>> The date might not be quite right, and some things will have been cherry
>> picked.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

This is great!

Gj

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 18:32, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> OK, looks like we have consensus on merging these then.
>
> I will merge to master on Monday, unless someone else does before, and
> then sync everything across to release111 for our next beta.
>
> My inclination is to squash and merge these unless anyone has a reason
> not to before then?
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Great, makes sense.

Gj

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 19:10, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 17:41, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> >
> > One thing — how can the betas and final release be distinguished from
> each
> > other? Right now we have beta-1, soon beta-2, eventually final release,
> but
> > one day when someone reports an issue how will we know which one they’re
> > using?
>
> The only current way I think is the IDE log itself, where the modules
> have the release number and build date?
>
> Ideally the version in the UI would have a -beta suffix, which I don't
> think we had with NB 11.0 either.  I could (should) have added this in
> all the different places it's mentioned for each beta release.  I'm
> putting some thoughts together for NB 11.2 so that the remaining
> changes required in the release branch (eg.
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1304 ) can be set from one
> place in the build so that we can more easily update each time.
>
> Hopefully anyone outside of this community will only be using the
> voted on releases anyway! :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

One thing — how can the betas and final release be distinguished from each
other? Right now we have beta-1, soon beta-2, eventually final release, but
one day when someone reports an issue how will we know which one they’re
using?

Gj


On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 18:38, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

> This is great!
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 18:32, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> OK, looks like we have consensus on merging these then.
>>
>> I will merge to master on Monday, unless someone else does before, and
>> then sync everything across to release111 for our next beta.
>>
>> My inclination is to squash and merge these unless anyone has a reason
>> not to before then?
>>
>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Maven Archetypes new release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Thanks for all the hard work in this area, it looks very good to me.

Gj


On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 5:05 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
>
> I want to call a vote on releasing the following Apache NetBeans Archetypes
> (3 at once if possible):
>
> 1) nbm-archetype-1.16
> 2) nbm-suite-root-1.11
> 3) netbeans-platform-app-archetype-1.21
>
>
> Apache Maven Archetypes are used by Apache NetBeans in the project wizard
> "Java With Maven" to create NetBeans Module and NetBeans Application
>
> Changes since mojohaus
> - Archetype used plugin are up to date, java 8 minimum
>
> NB
> - the file in the respective archetype-resources cannot have Apache header
>   as otherwise the Maven mechanism will make Apache header that end-user
> will not need.
>
> The voting artefacts sources are respectivly located here:
> 1)
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-archetypes/nb
> m-archetype/nbm-archetype-1.16/
> 
> 2)
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-archetypes/nb
> m-suite-root/nbm-suite-root-1.11/
> 
> 3)
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-maven-archetypes/ne
> tbeans-platform-app-archetype/netbeans-platform-app-archetype-1.21/
> 
>
>
> The source are respectivly located (repository, commit id, tag)
> 1) https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-nb-repository-plugin with
> the commit id 243b95363580a0e574ae41f6dc72e10a109968b2 (tag
> nbm-archetype-1.16)
> 2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-archetype-nbm-suite-root
> with the commit id c1089471b9edc5e6bea4d72641704fd93de6c33f (tag
> nbm-suite-root-1.11)
> 3)
>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-mavenutils-archetype-netbeans-platform-ap
> p-archetype
> 
> with the commit id b209b3761cbd5e3ced71254661fb0836fd1c871f (tag
> netbeans-platform-app-archetype-1.21)
>
> Archetypes are staged in the following maven repository
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1033/
>
> Key file is here:
>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
>
> The vote is open for at least 72h.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Eric Barboni (skygo)
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Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

And re the splash screen, there's lots of work going on about that, e.g.,
see this, your comments and thoughts there are welcome:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1246

Gj

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 9:18 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

>
> But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself or
> whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary from the
> Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update center to
> get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you can't do
> it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?
>
> And, yes, nothing is enabled until you start using it, which is always the
> case and has always been the case.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kenneth Fogel 
> wrote:
>
>> I just tried to build NB from source using the latest from the master
>> branch. Before I start polluting JIRA with these I thought I'd run them by
>> the group in the event I'm missing something obvious:
>>
>> Splash screen says NetBeans 10 and remains effectively illegible on a
>> basic 1920x1080 display.
>>
>> Upon startup nothing is activated not even Java SE.
>>
>> Java SE activated successfully.
>>
>> Java Web and EE comes up requiring the Oracle js parser. I find this
>> puzzling.
>>
>> Unable to connect to the NetBeans Plugin Portal because of
>> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/latest/catalog-experimental.xml.gz
>> Therefore I cannot get the Oracle JS parse. As the error suggested a
>> possible proxy or firewall problem I set it to no proxy and turned off my
>> firewall. No difference.
>>
>> Received suggestion to install nb-javac. It too fails to connect to
>> wherever this plugin should come from.
>>
>> I could get it run a Hello World. It reminded that there was a JIRA to
>> file, that I did under Trivial, to get rid of the comment "To change this
>> licence header..." for all new java files. Please imagine me swearing under
>> my breath every time I create a new file. Yes, I can easily fix it but many
>> don't even when instructed to. Grumble, grumble . . .
>>
>> Thank you for indulging me.
>>
>> Ken
>>
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Re: Unsuccessful NB Run after a successful build on Windows.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

But all these things are true whether you build NetBeans yourself or
whether you run NetBeans after downloading and running the binary from the
Download page, right? I mean, if you can't connect to an update center to
get nb-javac or the Nashorn parser in your own built NetBeans, you can't do
it either from the NetBeans that is pre-built for you?

And, yes, nothing is enabled until you start using it, which is always the
case and has always been the case.

Gj

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:16 PM Kenneth Fogel 
wrote:

> I just tried to build NB from source using the latest from the master
> branch. Before I start polluting JIRA with these I thought I'd run them by
> the group in the event I'm missing something obvious:
>
> Splash screen says NetBeans 10 and remains effectively illegible on a
> basic 1920x1080 display.
>
> Upon startup nothing is activated not even Java SE.
>
> Java SE activated successfully.
>
> Java Web and EE comes up requiring the Oracle js parser. I find this
> puzzling.
>
> Unable to connect to the NetBeans Plugin Portal because of
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal/data/latest/catalog-experimental.xml.gz
> Therefore I cannot get the Oracle JS parse. As the error suggested a
> possible proxy or firewall problem I set it to no proxy and turned off my
> firewall. No difference.
>
> Received suggestion to install nb-javac. It too fails to connect to
> wherever this plugin should come from.
>
> I could get it run a Hello World. It reminded that there was a JIRA to
> file, that I did under Trivial, to get rid of the comment "To change this
> licence header..." for all new java files. Please imagine me swearing under
> my breath every time I create a new file. Yes, I can easily fix it but many
> don't even when instructed to. Grumble, grumble . . .
>
> Thank you for indulging me.
>
> Ken
>
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Re: AW: [Mentors] Daily builds available via netbeans.apache.org downloadpage?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Sure, feel free to change, tweak, etc, here where I have added the daily
build info (I think the fact that they're daily builds is info enough re
whether they are unreleased or unofficial etc):

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html

Gj

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 4:21 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Well, probably the NetBeans 11.0 download page is not the best one for
> these links.
> No proper Warning, that these are unreleased material, it is a bit
> confusing, that how they really relates NetBeans 11.0 as the dailies are
> beyond that.
>
> It would be much better in the contribution page join to NetCat or a
> "help testing the latest" section.
>
> I think is ok to have these links on the website, but as it is not
> released, it should not go onto our main download page and shall have a
> proper warning.
>
> Also unless we are creating a windows installer, we shall put the linux
> wersions upfront as those are the versions where the Windows launchers
> actually built from the source.
>
> On 6/10/19 3:42 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Added a 'Daily builds' section near the end of
> > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html.
> >
> > Should be live soon.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:34 PM Jiří Kovalský  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Any update on this? I still can't seem to find the link to daily builds
> >> anywhere except our Confluence [1].
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans
> >>
> >> Let me know if you disagree otherwise I will create a ticket for linking
> >> the development builds from "Building From Source" section in the latest
> >> download page [2] tomorrow.
> >>
> >> [2]
> >>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html#_building_from_source
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Jirka
> >>
> >> Dne 29. 04. 19 v 14:51 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
> >>
> >>> Hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> I read the thread for sure, but we didn’t have any agreement, right? I
> >> mean, if it is possible, then we can add such a link, right? Which is
> not
> >> there yet.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Von: Daniel Gruno
> >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. März 2019 14:06
> >>> An: d...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>> Betreff: Re: [Mentors] Daily builds available via netbeans.apache.org
> >> downloadpage?
> >>> On 3/12/19 1:16 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> So long as we clearly mark it as such, i.e., not as official Apache
> >>>> release, can we put a link to the daily builds on our our
> >>>> netbeans.apache.org downloads page -- for purposes of giving people
> the
> >>>> opportunity to try things out and provide feedback?
> >>> Yes, with the big caveat that it's not an official release and may not
> >>> work at all etc. This needs to be spelled out on any page that links to
> >>> such downloads. Preferably, daily builds would be on a sub-page by
> >>> itself, there has to be no doubt in the users mind that this isn't "the
> >>> official thing".
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>>
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[DISCUSS] The need for code reviewers

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

We have a beautiful PR for Payara integration, Java EE 8 integration, and
more.

But we're not going to be able to include those PRs if no one reviews them.

How can we solve this situation? Possibly a tribe concept for reviewing
PRs, similar to the tribe concept in NetCAT? I.e., the tribe name (e.g.,
'jakarta' or 'javascript' or 'profiler' or something) would be a tag in the
PR, created by the author of the PR, signalling to the relevant tribe that
they should review the PR?

And a tribe wouldn't need to be massive, i.e., quality more important than
quantity, probably 3 or 4 per reviewer tribe would be all that's needed --
all we need is a small subset of people who we can ping if no one reviews a
PR and so that reviewers have a way to focus on the PRs that are most
relevant to them.

Thoughts?

Gj

Re: Files to License List

[Geertjan Wielenga]

It means those Oracle apps are built on top of NetBeans and the devs from
Oracle Labs are about to move to the latest Apache NetBeans release. In
short, “import”, in a way.

Gj


On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 19:26, Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> On 6/19/19 11:43 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> > [IGV](
> >
> https://www.graalvm.org/docs/graalvm-as-a-platform/implement-language/#igv
> )
> > stands for Ideal Graph Visualizer and it is a great way to get an insight
> > into what kind of optimizations the Graal compiler does when generating
> the
> > native code for your bytecodes.
>
> Well, what I meant was, what does it mean "We are about to import Apache
> NetBeans 11.x to OracleLabs projects"?
>
> > st 19. 6. 2019 v 16:30 odesílatel Glenn Holmer
> 
> > napsal:
> >
> >> On 6/19/19 8:34 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> >>> We are about to import Apache NetBeans 11.x to OracleLabs projects like
> >>> VisualVM and IGV.
> >>
> >> I am curious: what does this mean?
>
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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.1-beta1 Is Available for Testing!

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Some of what you describe, specifically the downloading of JavaFX, may be
related to this: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/917

Gj

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:43 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 at 15:29, Sven Reimers  wrote:
> > Hi just ran NetBeans 11.1 beta 1 on OpenJDK Runtime Environment 12+33
> from
> > AdoptOpenJDK on Mac.
>
> OK, so I'm using AdoptOpenJDK 11 (OpenJ9) on Linux and can definitely
> replicate the error message.
>
> > I activated all plugins, got some follow  up install messages, once Java
> > plugins was active nb-javac installation was triggered...
>
> How exactly are you activating?
>
> > After all was over I saw this:
> >
> > java.lang.IllegalStateException: Host module
> > StandardModule:org.netbeans.libs.javacapi jarFile:
> >
> /Users/sven/tools/netbeans-11.1beta1/java/modules/org-netbeans-libs-javacapi.jar
> > was enabled before, will not accept fragment
>
> With a clean userdir and no import, if I go to create a new Maven
> Application the dialog offers buttons for download and activate, and
> just activate.
>
> The dialog has the same text repeated four times.
>
> If I click download and activate it wants to install JavaFX for Linux.
> Why?!  This is also unsigned.
>
> If I just activate (or cancel download install because I'm worried
> about an unsigned plugin!) I get the notification bubble to install
> nb-javac.  This triggers the above error.  It seems to actually work
> OK though.
>
> Anyone else replicate that?
>
> The exact same steps cause the exact same problems for me with NB 11.0
> though.  And it does appear to work OK afterwards.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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>

Profiler images in main toolbar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi David and Chris,

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2727

That would be a great item to have resolved, i.e., remove the blue NetBeans
icon and use the new one instead, together with similar or some different
overlay on top to indicate the difference between them in functionality.

Hope this is doable and it makes sense.

Gj

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Great, thanks Josh. Just to understand what this consists of -- when I go
to the New Project dialog and I choose "Java with Maven" and then "Web
Application" and click Next, and Next again, there is a "Java EE Version"
drop-down, which now has "Java EE 7 Web", "Java EE 6 Web", and "Java EE 5".

Does your PR add new content to that drop-down? That's my assumption,
please just confirm/deny that.

Thanks,

Gj


On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:32 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Thanks Neil, for the information.  I created the PR for Java EE 8
> integration, and those enhancements are specifically geared towards Maven
> projects.  The PR includes the following functionality:
>
> - Ability to create a new Maven Web Project using Java EE 8 (utilizes a
> Java EE 8 maven archetype)
> - Ability to change an existing Maven Web Project to use the Java EE 8
> Platform
> - Support for GlassFish 5.0.1 and GlassFish 5.1 (enhanced by adding
> separate identifiers in the sources for GlassFish 5 branch - gfv5ee8,
> rather than gfv3ee6)
> - IDE recognizes all Java EE 8 artifact versions, for example: JSF 2.3
> faces-config, CDI beans.xml 2.0, web.xml 4.0
>
> +1 for merging the Payara server and micro tools integration as well.
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:53 AM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This email follows some off-list discussion with various people
> > including Geertjan and the relevant contributors.  The release
> > schedule we agreed has an open question about allowing selective
> > feature freeze bypass based on mailing list agreement - hence ...
> >
> > I propose we allow the pending Java EE and Payara PRs to be merged to
> > master for the NB 11.1 release -
> >
> > * Incorporating new files and code modifications for adding Java EE 8
> > support. https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1298
> > * NP-20 Payara Server tools integration in Apache NetBeans IDE.
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1290
> > * NP-20 Payara Micro tools integration in Apache NetBeans IDE.
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1297
> >
> > One of the reasons we discussed having quarterly and non-LTS releases
> > was to get things testing in the wild earlier.  These partly missed
> > the feature freeze because of Travis issues, seem ready to merge, and
> > (hopefully!) have minimal impact on existing features.
> >
> > This is a lazy consensus thread that will be open for 72hrs.  You do
> > not need to +1 (although you're welcome to), but do raise concerns or
> > -1 if need be.  Assuming this goes ahead, we can merge in time to sync
> > up and include in beta2 next Wednesday.
> >
> > My own lazy consent as release manager is also based on -
> >
> > * All tests are passing before merging (appears now to be the case)
> > * Merging is done before second beta (possibly a good criteria for
> > feature freeze bypass in general?)
> > * The respective contributors can commit to timely fixes in case of
> > issues so that this doesn't cause delay in the NB 11.1 release
> > schedule.
> >
> > Thanks and best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
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>

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

That would be wonderful!

Gj

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 6:05 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> It won't magically happen on Gradle. The support needs to be patched for
> that. Hopefully not a big deal and might catch the release train...
>
> On 6/19/19 4:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > That is great.
> >
> > Is "Java EE 8 Web" correct as a label or should it have "Jakarta" there
> in
> > some way instead?
> >
> > Can you check if Ant-based Java Web projects and Gradle-based Java Web
> > projects (new in 11.1) don't somehow magically inherit this new feature?
> > Probably not, but worth checking.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:44 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Geertjan,
> >>
> >> You are correct.  The drop-down you've mentioned should now include
> "Java
> >> EE 8 Web" as an option.
> >>
> >> Additionally, if you right-click on an existing Maven Web Project using
> >> Java EE 7 or less, the Project Properties dialog "Run" panel now
> contains
> >> "Java EE 8 Web" as a Java EE Version.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 6:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great, thanks Josh. Just to understand what this consists of -- when I
> go
> >>> to the New Project dialog and I choose "Java with Maven" and then "Web
> >>> Application" and click Next, and Next again, there is a "Java EE
> Version"
> >>> drop-down, which now has "Java EE 7 Web", "Java EE 6 Web", and "Java EE
> >> 5".
> >>> Does your PR add new content to that drop-down? That's my assumption,
> >>> please just confirm/deny that.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:32 PM Josh Juneau 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks Neil, for the information.  I created the PR for Java EE 8
> >>>> integration, and those enhancements are specifically geared towards
> >> Maven
> >>>> projects.  The PR includes the following functionality:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Ability to create a new Maven Web Project using Java EE 8 (utilizes
> a
> >>>> Java EE 8 maven archetype)
> >>>> - Ability to change an existing Maven Web Project to use the Java EE 8
> >>>> Platform
> >>>> - Support for GlassFish 5.0.1 and GlassFish 5.1 (enhanced by adding
> >>>> separate identifiers in the sources for GlassFish 5 branch - gfv5ee8,
> >>>> rather than gfv3ee6)
> >>>> - IDE recognizes all Java EE 8 artifact versions, for example: JSF 2.3
> >>>> faces-config, CDI beans.xml 2.0, web.xml 4.0
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for merging the Payara server and micro tools integration as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:53 AM Neil C Smith 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This email follows some off-list discussion with various people
> >>>>> including Geertjan and the relevant contributors.  The release
> >>>>> schedule we agreed has an open question about allowing selective
> >>>>> feature freeze bypass based on mailing list agreement - hence ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I propose we allow the pending Java EE and Payara PRs to be merged to
> >>>>> master for the NB 11.1 release -
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * Incorporating new files and code modifications for adding Java EE 8
> >>>>> support. https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1298
> >>>>> * NP-20 Payara Server tools integration in Apache NetBeans IDE.
> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1290
> >>>>> * NP-20 Payara Micro tools integration in Apache NetBeans IDE.
> >>>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1297
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One of the reasons we discussed having quarterly and non-LTS releases
> >>>>> was to get things testing in the wild earlier.  These partly missed
> >>>>> the feature freeze because of Travis issues, seem ready to merge, and
> >>>>> (hopefully!) have minimal impact on existing features.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is a lazy consensus thread that w

Re: Re: [Lazy Consensus] Feature freeze pass for Java EE and Payara PRs for NB 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I was talking about from a UI perspective.

Gj

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 16:39, Eric Bresie  wrote:

> Are you talking about a “branch” or label of some type from a git
> perspective or from a version display in the UI perspective?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
> > On June 22, 2019 at 1:54:56 PM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Great, makes sense.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 19:10, Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 17:41, Geertjan Wielenga 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One thing — how can the betas and final release be distinguished from
> > > each
> > > > other? Right now we have beta-1, soon beta-2, eventually final
> release,
> > > but
> > > > one day when someone reports an issue how will we know which one
> they’re
> > > > using?
> > >
> > > The only current way I think is the IDE log itself, where the modules
> > > have the release number and build date?
> > >
> > > Ideally the version in the UI would have a -beta suffix, which I don't
> > > think we had with NB 11.0 either. I could (should) have added this in
> > > all the different places it's mentioned for each beta release. I'm
> > > putting some thoughts together for NB 11.2 so that the remaining
> > > changes required in the release branch (eg.
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1304 ) can be set from one
> > > place in the build so that we can more easily update each time.
> > >
> > > Hopefully anyone outside of this community will only be using the
> > > voted on releases anyway! :-)
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > -
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>

Re: Profiler images in main toolbar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent. The point of the actions is that they allow for NetBeans itself
to be profiled, so the icon needs to be the NetBeans icon, so the first of
the options you've provided looks great and matches what's needed, would be
great to have those! Maybe even in 11.1 as a cherry pick.

Gj

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 11:40 PM David Schulz  wrote:

> Mh, hard question. The old ones look quite characteristic and artistic
> but probably either way too much for an IDE which should focus on the
> content/code itself. I would go for a more minimal version. Maybe we can
> try to modernize some of them a bit.
>
> Can someone send me a high-quality image of the IDE without skin and with
> dark skin? I could play with some styles which could fit, based on the
> original ones 
>
> Here is my first try:
> https://xd.adobe.com/spec/ab085381-8d07-4868-43f7-bc350fac0e58-dd39/
> Feel free to feedback!
>
> All the best,
> Dave
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> From: Eirik Bakke
> Sent: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 23:50
> To: David Schulz; Christian Lenz
> Cc: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Profiler images in main toolbar
>
> See the previous thread, "NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?"
>
> I listed the various possible approaches at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/HiDPI+%28Retina%29+improvements
> . Downsides to using an existing icon library include: (1) quite a few
> NetBeans icons will have no suitable replacement in an existing font
> library, (2) icon font libraries yield monochromatic icons only,
> sacrificing the color of the old icons for an improvement in resolution,
> and (3) the style of new icons would appear mismatched next to old ones.
> There's also the license issues.
>
> The existing NetBeans icons are really quite good--most of them were drawn
> by a single professional designer (Leos Tronicek), who once did all the
> work to set a color theme, make a visual language for various objects etc.
> Thus I have proposed keeping new icons in the same style and shapes as the
> old ones, only making them more modern by omitting unnecessary shadows,
> bevels, and gradients. That makes them easier to vectorize in any case.
> This approach also makes new icons look reasonably consistent next to old
> ones that haven't been vectorized yet.
>
> Some examples are shown at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/110692909/vectorized.png
>
> -- Eirik
>
> From: David Schulz 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 1:56 PM
> To: Eirik Bakke ; dev@netbeans.apache.org; Christian
> Lenz 
> Subject: RE: Profiler images in main toolbar
>
> Makes sense, we could also check some Icon libraries like Streamline or
> Icon8 to use them as a base for our icon rework. Not sure how the apache
> license works with icon libraries like that, any opinions?
>
> Best,
> Dave
>
> From: Eirik Bakke
> Sent: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2019 17:12
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org; David Schulz; Christian Lenz
> Subject: RE: Profiler images in main toolbar
>
> If it's not urgent for legal/trademark reasons, it would be natural to do
> this as part of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617
> ("Redraw common icons in SVG"). Added a comment about this.
>
> See
> https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/netbeans-icons/prioritized.html
> for a list of other icons that we should eventually try to redraw in SVG
> versions. This task does require a fair bit of graphic design skills,
> though.
> -- Eirik
> -Original Message-
> From: Geertjan Wielenga 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:54 AM
> To: David Schulz ; Christian Lenz ;
> dev 
> Subject: Profiler images in main toolbar
>
> Hi David and Chris,
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2727
>
> That would be a great item to have resolved, i.e., remove the blue
> NetBeans icon and use the new one instead, together with similar or some
> different overlay on top to indicate the difference between them in
> functionality.
>
> Hope this is doable and it makes sense.
>
> Gj
>
>
>

Maven repo for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all, especially Eric,

What is the URL to the Maven repo of Apache NetBeans artifacts?

We need to be very clear about comunicating this and publish the info maybe
on the Download page?

Thanks,

Gj

Re: Failing Linux builds: org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent, thanks!

Gj

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:25 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> It is fixed now.
>
> On 6/11/19 9:43 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > Just please follow the Linux build and check that everything goes OK now.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:35 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Excellent, thanks!
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 6:27 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thank you Gj!
> >>>
> >>> Just fixed it on master. I guess that is the root cause of
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2651
> >>>
> >>> It's my bad, I'm sorry!
> >>>
> >>> On 6/11/19 4:43 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-linux/1130/console
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [genlist] Manifest in jar file
> >>>>
> >>>
> /home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/netbeans-linux/nbbuild/netbeans/groovy/modules/org-netbeans-modules-gradle-javaee.jar
> >>>> does not contain tag OpenIDE-Module-Specification-Version
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
> >>>>
> >>> -
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
> -
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>
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>
>
>
>

Dead/obsolete NetBeans features umbrella issue

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

I'm trying to collect all dead wood, i.e., features in NetBeans that don't
actually work (anymore) within this umbrella issue so that we can see how
to solve these and have them all in one place:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2716

If you're aware of any feature that is a default part of NetBeans but does
not work or is old and for that reason unusable, please create a new
subtask in the above.

Thanks,

Gj

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.1-beta1 Is Available for Testing!

[Geertjan Wielenga]

There's been Java EE 8 support for quite a while -- use NetBeans to create
one of the AirHacks archetypes by Adam Bien, which is set up and ready for
Java EE 8, and deploy to GlassFish from NetBeans.

Want more Java EE 8 support? Help to review and comment here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1298
Want Payara support? Help to review and comment here:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1297

Thanks,

Gj

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 1:50 PM Patrick Musembi 
wrote:

> So no java ee 8 support yet?
>
> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 14:24 Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> > Dear Community,
> >
> > I'd like to announce that the first beta build for Apache NetBeans
> > 11.1 from the release111 branch is available for download.
> >
> > As this build is for testing purposes only, we are not going to do the
> > release dance and voting around it (and as we're not voting on it, the
> > files are tagged beta not vc!).
> >
> > As per the recently agreed release schedule, NB 11.1 is a non-LTS
> > release, and will not have a full NetCAT process.  However, feedback
> > and testing from those on the dev@ and netcat@ lists would still be
> > appreciated, particularly around new features.  Please file issues in
> > JIRA as necessary, with the affects and fix versions set to 11.1.
> >
> > Further betas will be released, as required, on June ~26th and/or July
> > ~3rd.  The final NB 11.1 release is scheduled for July ~15th.
> >
> > The next full NetCAT is scheduled for NB 12.0 in early 2020, which
> > will be the next LTS release.
> >
> > Release schedule :
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
> > NB 11.1 major changes :
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.1
> >
> >
> > See the artefacts here:
> >
> > https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-release/413/artifact/dist/
> >
> > The binary you most likely need is:
> >
> >
> >
> https://builds.apache.org/job/netbeans-release/413/artifact/dist/netbeans-11.1-beta1-bin.zip
> >
> > Installers, as mentioned in the major changes link, are in progress.
> >
> > The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as
> > well as here:
> >
> >
> >
> 8d401c2e2b16fca5b236da24a379416f315fc8ac83177cc740319a3c3fdd31154af683b624cf31968d6bd4288de96de4d651a7b2990f1da4d5c456f3849bdb59
> >  ./netbeans-11.1-beta1-bin.zip
> >
> >
> 78061ea3dde1741b50dc0aa3a994274d688285b58b6ec0ac48426ae15bbb2cddec348d85d36ddaf5a6a4b459f5cdfb7d11bbab59ed1bb5b072f245cbfbd02f06
> >  ./netbeans-11.1-beta1-source.zip
> >
> >
> a3d1b839a859ad3b916e7ae54e6335aa071a7530c17ab7749f1267eb38f7666823862af886aae53c9ccc379e131d28f5ab8de2498b97e3433c2fbb59c1217d2e
> >  ./netbeans-platform-11.1-beta1-bin.zip
> >
> >
> 91b494fa43925f4c8a73a9be5a57fe24f7b0d496a37a79678fd7d0fbb91d8a0f73a68cf35dfb6ea4d82f5594b29f958716f31ebe9a85f317d4404c9da995d8bb
> >  ./netbeans-platform-11.1-beta1-source.zip
> >
> >
> > Thanks and best wishes,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > Voluntary Release Manager for Apache NetBeans 11.1
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent, great again a decisive contribution from James Gosling.

Gj


On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 09:45, Christian Lenz  wrote:

> Yes, I’m also fine +1 with James Approach  Looks good enough.
>
>
>
> Von: James Gosling
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. Mai 2019 23:31
> An: dev
> Cc: d...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: [NETBEANS-2455] Splash Screens!
>
> Another approach is to just flatten the text to vectors, and remove all
> font references:
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 2

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Gj

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 10:09 AM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> +1
>
> Dne neděle 12. května 2019 8:42:50 CEST, Antonio napsal(a):
> > +1
> >
> > Verified SHA512 & PGP Keys. Proper license & notice. Correct TLP urls.
> >
> > Way to go, Eric! Keep it high! Thanks!
> >
> > El 10/5/19 a las 17:44, Eric Barboni escribió:
> > > Sorry staging is never on dev.
> > > Here is the correct location
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-parent/netbeans-p
> > > ar ent-2/
> > >
> > >
> > > -Message d'origine-
> > > De : Eric Barboni 
> > > Envoyé : vendredi 10 mai 2019 17:36
> > > À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
> > > Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans parent pom 2
> > >
> > > Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to call a vote on releasing Apache NetBeans maven parent
> version 2.
> > >
> > > This is a maven pom containing basic information needed like mailing
> list,
> > > license.
> > >
> > > This new version should no more refer to incubator.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The voting artefacts sources are located here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/netbeans-parent/netbea
> > > ns -parent-2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans-parent/
> > >
> > > with the commit id f3957d486d48c56d177f4a4fac168fb4b5b9d188 (tag
> > > netbeans-parent-2)
> > >
> > > are staged in the following repository:
> > >
> > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1026/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Key file is here:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.apache.org/dist/netbeans/KEYS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The vote is open for at least 72h
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Eric Barboni (skygo)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> > >
> > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>
>
>
> -
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>
>
>
>

OpenJFX and NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Chris Luff has some great new articles about OpenJFX in combination with
Apache NetBeans:

https://dzone.com/articles/adoptopenjdk-11-openjfx-netbeans

https://dzone.com/articles/adoptopenjdk-11-openjfx-netbeans-part-2

Note that Chris is also the organizer of the upcoming Apache NetBeans Day
in the UK (please sign up):

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/apache-netbeans-day-2019-uk-tickets-56803479737

Speaking of OpenJFX and Apache NetBeans, take a look at this new pull
request by the Gluon team, your comments and feedback are needed:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1241

Thanks,

Gj

Re: NetBeans Development Setup

[Geertjan Wielenga]

OK, it's time to make a new and maybe more complete and simpler version of
those YouTube videos -- if you can list what should be in that, and what
was confusing, that will help in putting it together, also what you found
helpful in the videos.

When you have a moment, but no rush.

Gj

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:13 AM Lou H  wrote:

> Yup, I've gone over it a few times. My concerns were from the video not
> exactly matching what I was seeing. I believe I've been able to get things
> working - just a little uncertainty.
>
> -Lou
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 1:44 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > See the README, always, first:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/master/README.md
> >
> > Tells you about how to build.
> >
> > I'd recommend you then simply open the module you want to work on, make
> your changes, and then run that module, which will start up your built
> NetBeans and which will install the changed module into it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:49 AM Lou H 
> wrote:
> >
> >> A few questions/observations:
> >>
> >> 1- How to do the Ant build wasn't mentioned, I did it like this: "ant
> -Dcluster.config=full". Build was done with a user.build.properties file
> inside netbeans/nbbuild containing "nbjdk.home=/home/lou/jdk/jdk8u212-b03"
> (latest OpenJDK). Correct?
> >>
> >> 2- When adding a new NetBeans Platform (around 1:40 in the first
> video), at first the dialog doesn't list any modules. By de-selecting and
> re-selecting the built platform it only lists "RCP Platform". Bad?
> >>
> >> 3- @2:30 (first video), again only a "platform" module is listed, so
> this doesn't look correct. However, I am able to create a new "Module
> Suite" project (3rd video) and it seems to run fine. I've noticed that as I
> load new module projects, the list in the platform dialog grows a little.
> >>
> >> 4- Does it matter which JDK is used to run your installed/main NB
> (especially for debugging the dev-NB)?
> >>
> >> -Lou
> >>
> >> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> >> On Monday, May 20, 2019 4:31 PM, Lou H 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not sure how I missed that, relying on the GitHub readme too much I
> guess. I'll take a look, thanks!
> >>>
> >>> -Lou
> >>>
> >>> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> >>>
> >>> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> >>> On Monday, May 20, 2019 4:27 PM, Patrik Karlström pat...@trixon.se
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Have a look at
> >>> >
> http://netbeans.apache.org/participate/build-run-debug-tutorials.html
> >>> > Den mån 20 maj 2019 kl 22:21 skrev Lou H lo...@protonmail.com.invalid
> :
> >>> >
> >>> > > I've been looking for guidelines or instructions on how to set up
> for NB
> >>> > > development & debugging (inside NB), but it's difficult to search
> on
> >>> > > "compiling/building netbeans within netbeans" without getting hits
> on...
> >>> > > everything but that.
> >>> > > How would you get started setting up a productive dev environment &
> >>> > > workflow? Does it depend on what you're focusing on at the time?
> (Gradle
> >>> > > support, JavaFX support, etc.)
> >>> > > -Lou
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >>
> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists

Re: NetBeans Development Setup

[Geertjan Wielenga]

See the README, always, first:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/master/README.md

Tells you about how to build.

I'd recommend you then simply open the module you want to work on, make
your changes, and then run that module, which will start up your built
NetBeans and which will install the changed module into it.

Gj

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:49 AM Lou H  wrote:

> A few questions/observations:
>
> 1- How to do the Ant build wasn't mentioned, I did it like this: "ant
> -Dcluster.config=full". Build was done with a user.build.properties file
> inside netbeans/nbbuild containing "nbjdk.home=/home/lou/jdk/jdk8u212-b03"
> (latest OpenJDK). Correct?
>
> 2- When adding a new NetBeans Platform (around 1:40 in the first video),
> at first the dialog doesn't list any modules. By de-selecting and
> re-selecting the built platform it only lists "RCP Platform". Bad?
>
> 3- @2:30 (first video), again only a "platform" module is listed, so this
> doesn't look correct. However, I am able to create a new "Module Suite"
> project (3rd video) and it seems to run fine. I've noticed that as I load
> new module projects, the list in the platform dialog grows a little.
>
> 4- Does it matter which JDK is used to run your installed/main NB
> (especially for debugging the dev-NB)?
>
> -Lou
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, May 20, 2019 4:31 PM, Lou H 
> wrote:
>
> > Not sure how I missed that, relying on the GitHub readme too much I
> guess. I'll take a look, thanks!
> >
> > -Lou
> >
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> >
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Monday, May 20, 2019 4:27 PM, Patrik Karlström pat...@trixon.se
> wrote:
> >
> > > Have a look at
> > > http://netbeans.apache.org/participate/build-run-debug-tutorials.html
> > > Den mån 20 maj 2019 kl 22:21 skrev Lou H lo...@protonmail.com.invalid:
> > >
> > > > I've been looking for guidelines or instructions on how to set up
> for NB
> > > > development & debugging (inside NB), but it's difficult to search on
> > > > "compiling/building netbeans within netbeans" without getting hits
> on...
> > > > everything but that.
> > > > How would you get started setting up a productive dev environment &
> > > > workflow? Does it depend on what you're focusing on at the time?
> (Gradle
> > > > support, JavaFX support, etc.)
> > > > -Lou
> >
> > --
> >
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org
>
> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>
>
>
>

Re: NetBeans Development Setup

[Geertjan Wielenga]

And ide-branding is here:

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/master/nb/ide.branding

Gj

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 10:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
wrote:

> Thanks a lot, very useful.
>
> Build the basic project (mainly, JavaSE features): $ ant
> -Dcluster.config=basic
>
> Build the full project (including Groovy, PHP, JavaEE/JakartaEE, and
> JavaScript features): $ ant -Dcluster.config=full
>
> Build the NetBeans Platform: $ ant -Dcluster.config=platform
>
> Does the above help? I.e., "platform" is the underlying framework only,
> "basic" is "platform" together with the Java SE-related development
> features, such as the Java Editor, while "full" is everything, i.e., all
> the clusters (which are groups of related modules, which each have a
> dedicated folder in your installation directory.
>
> The reason why doing the Ant build is needed is that you need to have a
> binary of NetBeans to deploy your modules-in-development to and that binary
> needs to be created and is created during the build, in 'nbbuild/netbeans'.
>
> Does the above answer some of your questions?
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:34 AM Lou Hamersly 
> wrote:
>
>> Gj,
>>
>> Here's some feedback - sorry this got kind of long. The videos aren't so
>> outdated that I couldn't figure things out, so I just explained the issues
>> I see. Using NB 11 (running on JDK 12?) instead of NB 8.2 should be a big
>> improvement on the visuals.
>>
>> The readme on GitHub explains how to build with 4 different examples:
>> ant
>> ant -Dcluster.config=basic
>> ant -Dcluster.config=full
>> ant -Dcluster.config=platform
>>
>> I've used the default and full config versions, but I'm still not sure if
>> it really matters or even why you'd choose one or the other. More specifics
>> there would be nice.
>>
>> The fact that you need to do an Ant build before loading in the IDE is
>> fine, but unusual. For those used to "clone->open project->build" entirely
>> inside the IDE, it might help to explain "why" an Ant build is needed prior
>> to loading into the IDE. ("Won't the IDE do all that for us?") There seems
>> to be some "magic" happening here from an outsider's perspective.
>>
>> In the 1st video, you start out in the Favorites tab (which I never
>> really use). You could show the step to add a favorite which starts at the
>> root of the cloned "netbeans" folder. That would also eliminate the extra
>> "main" root folder that the video has (momentary confusion as I was
>> thinking about a standard Gradle file structure which includes "main", but
>> has nothing to do with this). This is admittedly nit-picky, so not crucial.
>>
>> 1st video, 1:48:
>> Platform Modules listed under Modules tab only has one item for me.
>> Hopefully this is just the way it works now, post JDK 9:
>> https://imgur.com/a/aVNrnJh
>>
>> 1st video, 2:30:
>> The Project Properties dialog->Libraries tab starts out very different
>> for me in NB 11.
>> https://imgur.com/a/iEeh3oB
>>
>> However running the project worked fine for me. Despite what the readme
>> says about build requirements, I didn't need to switch the project's
>> platform from the default JDK 12 for the module project's
>> properties->Libraries->Java Platform. (I suspect that may become an issue
>> later on and should be changed to JDK 8?)
>>
>> 2nd video:
>> Debugging worked fine, breakpoint was hit.
>>
>> 3rd video, 1:07:
>> Again only "platform" is listed: https://imgur.com/a/L6WrAgo
>>
>> Run, debug + breakpoint worked fine.
>>
>> 4th video:
>> The ide.branding folder doesn't seem to exist anymore, or it was moved. I
>> have the master branch checked out and I noticed some work is being done on
>> the splash screen so I guess this is why.
>>
>> 5th video:
>> Works fine, very nice.
>>
>> Some general comments:
>> -It might be useful to talk about what "magic" is going on with these
>> "module" project types, or point to where more information can be found if
>> it's documented elsewhere. Is it "injecting" a compiled module? Maybe
>> explain what "clusters" are and what their purpose is, etc. Good to know a
>> little about architecture/what's happening under the hood.
>>
>> -Readme specifies Oracle/OpenJDK 8 as a requirement. I had assumed that
>> the Azul Systems "Zulu" certified version of JDK 8 would work just fine--it
>

Re: [Lazy Consensus] Release schedule - general and NB 11.1 specific

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi Neil,

Great.

Just one thing — I realize we’re no longer tied to being in sync with the
JDK release schedule, which is great and so on, but on the other hand if
tweaking the schedule slightly so that we can sync with JDK releases anyway
(not a bad thing in principle, since NetBeans is itself built in Java and
not some other language or technology and hence undeniably on a technology
level has a closer affinity to Java than anything else), then I think we
should consiser that.

For example, even though we could agree on the schedule exactly as proposed
by Neil, we could commit to providing a Beta release in sync with the
release of a JDK release, if that release is not too far off our release
dates as proposed by Neil. So, practically, Neil suggests an October
release and since the next JDK is scheduled for September, we could focus
on a Beta of the NetBeans release in sync with that.

So, note I’m not pushing for us to be in sync with JDK releases. Instead,
I’m suggesting that if a JDK is set to be released in the neighborhood of
one of our releases, we could target a Beta release, where that makes
sense, to be released as close as possible to that JDK release date.

Gj


On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 14:29, Victor Corral  wrote:

> HARD At WORKNOT
> Lazy Consensus
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 5:15 AM Victor Corral  wrote:
>
> > please give me a minute to catch up im only an individual and you have no
> > idea how much i reall have on my plate. Im trying to get a hold of the
> > president im configuring my domain im about to purchase champion.android
> > from the eu. Im learning about how to file for securities in my state, im
> > building my bitcoin-core for my clearinghouse proiject andf more but im
> > almost where i want to be to maybe ionpress the WORLD!!!
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 2:22 AM Neil C Smith 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> OK, as requested I'm starting a lazy consensus thread] following the
> >> discussion thread on draft release schedule -
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ea5189b51477cfca2b18e9c122872d36ab3ef6d9babf27c4aa649c3d@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
> >>
> >> This is to get consensus on the following broad points and specifics
> >> that affect how / when we release NB 11.1, and how we present it to
> >> users.  Other aspects of the release plan are definitely still up for
> >> discussion and modifications as necessary.  If you have any objections
> >> or things to clarify, please respond here by Tues May 28th.
> >>
> >> General
> >>
> >> * Four releases a year - mid-January, mid-April, mid-July, mid October.
> >> * One release a year (April), starting with NB 11.0, is an LTS that
> >> will be kept available until following April.
> >> * Only LTS has a full NetCAT process, and an emphasis on stability
> >> over features.
> >> * Each release has a feature freeze date one month in advance, two
> >> months in the case of LTS to fit in NetCAT.
> >> * All commits to master are intended for the release - only required
> >> PRs should be merged between feature-freeze and release dates.  Master
> >> should always be releasable.
> >> * Major number is increased with LTS - so NB 12.0 will be in April 2020.
> >> * Critical and security updates may be pushed via UC to last and LTS
> >> release - otherwise releases are not expected to get new features.
> >>
> >> NB 11.1 -> 11.2 specifics
> >>
> >> * NB 11.1 release date will be ~15th July.
> >> * NB 11.1 feature freeze date will be 15th June.  Features for NB 11.1
> >> should be merged by that date.
> >> * NB 11.1 beta(s) will be made available for testing as soon as
> >> possible after feature freeze date.
> >> * NB 11.2 merge window will open after 15th July release, with
> >> currently intended feature freeze ~15th Sept and release ~15th Oct
> >> * NB 11.0 will remain available alongside NB 11.1, 11.2 or 11.3 until
> >> NB 12.0 is released in April 2020.
> >>
> >> Open questions
> >>
> >> * Jan raised important point of whether freezing master hinders
> >> development, and whether we need a "next" branch.  I would suggest we
> >> start with freezing master and review after NB 11.1 release, but
> >> during release process if it becomes a real problem.  Personally I
> >> think it would be worth considering feature branches for this that can
> >> be merged and closed.  If we do have a long-lived "next" branch and
> >> end up cherry-picking from it to master do we gain anything or are we
> >> better continuing with cherry-picking to release branches?
> >>
> >> * Glenn raised important issue on NetCAT scheduling / test-spec
> >> review.  How that fits in the draft schedule definitely needs
> >> reviewing, although I don't think it affects the other key dates, and
> >> doesn't have a direct NB 11.1 implication(?)
> >>
> >> Thanks and best wishes,
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> -
> >> 

Re: Re: UML Status

[Geertjan Wielenga]

The idea could be to put plugins in Maven Central and access them from
there.

Gj

On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 5:01 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> Are any of the developers of the UML plugin currently on the mailing list
> and able to chime in some on this?
>
> Appears the last hg tag was for "donation_review" which assume means last
> thing prior to donation...so assume it's just waiting to be integrated into
> the Apache context.
>
> This does get me wonder given now that netbeans is maintained in the Apache
> context...does that make the whole thing "community" in a senses?  So if
> so, then would all submissions go into the netbeans repository or should
> all plugins / community submissions really need to be separate from the
> main netbeans as such?
>
> Assume at a minimum, maybe a separate repository for "netbeans-plugins"
> might make sense for an aggregate of plugin's unless really want every
> submitted plugin to be part of the core netbeans repository.  Assume having
> separate plugin repository might make it easier to have "plugin updates"
> managed independent of the core netbeans.  Does such a netbeans-plugin
> repository type repository exists yet?
>
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 2:22 AM Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
>
> > Not sure when it will be, don't want to promise anything in terms of time
> > -- it will be some time after the 4th donation (C/C++ features) which is
> > planned for September.
> >
> > Whether it will be in the main codebase or not depends on what you think,
> > what I think, what everyone thinks, together, like anything else here.
> :-)
> >
> > Fixed that incubator reference and note that you can have access to the
> > Wiki so you can immediately fix any problems you find.
> >
> > Note also that just because something has not yet been donated to Apache,
> > does not mean that you can't work on/with it, exactly as before.
> >
> > For example, here's the source code constituting the UML features:
> >
> > https://hg.netbeans.org/community-uml/file
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:52 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >
> > > Cool
> > >
> > > So maybe around release 13 timeframe?
> > >
> > > Will the community projects be in the main Netbeans codebase as well or
> > > will a seperate repository be setup for those?
> > >
> > > FYI, breadcrumbs at the top of that page still has incubator.
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > > > On May 17, 2019 at 10:43:42 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > geert...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
> > > >
> > > > Yes, upcoming, will be some time still, after C/C++ etc.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:18 PM Eric Bresie 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What is the status of bringing in the UML plugs (if memory serves
> > this
> > > may
> > > > > be part of community contribution)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric Bresie
> > > > > ebre...@gmail.com
> > >
> >
>

Re: Request for Help : Java Hint to enable Preview feature in gradle project

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Maybe read “enable-preview” as a fallback in netbeans.conf? I.e., if not
set anywhere else, check in netbeans.conf for -J-Denable-preview and, if
present, apply to all Java projects, which would include Gradle projects?

Not 100% sure, but just an idea.

Gj


On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 11:47, Arunava Sinha 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried org.gradle.jvmargs=--enable-preview. It didn't worked.
>
> Considering the scenarios as there and n number of ways to specify jvm
> parms for compilation/run and also currently support is not present to
> read/write gradle configuration from the plugin. I would choose to not
> provide the hint in gradle project.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arunava Sinha
>
> On 5/19/2019 7:05 PM, Eric Bresie wrote:
> > How is what’s being discussed different from a “gradle template” type
> scenario?
> >
> > That said, where in the code are the “hints API” locates? Where does a
> given hint get it’s possible options?
> >
> > As I understand Gradle, it’s a flavor of groovy coding with some DSL
> build specifics for the Gradle domain?
> >
> > In the end would this be a mixture of groovy with addition domain
> specific tips/hints?
> >
> > Eric Bresie
> > ebre...@gmail.com
> >> On May 19, 2019 at 2:20:34 AM CDT, Antonio  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> What about adding (or requesting to add)
> >>
> >> org.gradle.jvmargs=--enable-preview
> >>
> >> inside gradle.settings? Would that do?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >> El 19/5/19 a las 8:16, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> >>> I'm replying through the dev mailing list as others could help and/or
> >>> comment that way.
> >>>
> >>> In my personal point of view as Gradle build scripts are read-only. The
> >>> are wide variety of those files out there.
> >>>
> >>> An editor hint might work. Though detecting if the given compiler arg
> is
> >>> set for a source set may require support from the plugin and the
> >>> generated additional code might not work at all.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/15/19 6:20 AM, Arunava Sinha wrote:
>  Hi laszlo,
> 
>  I am working on below issue to enable preview feature in java
>  projects.(Planned to support for ant/maven/gradle projects).
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D2457=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=TcOkMvLD7qc02lagR7KuBiLDeNKXztf_6Bvny3re7l4=x0CMWxWnIBHkx3QOtpL0PEqyCThBrNx-142YfHmhrt0=
> 
>  Hints will add below parameters in build.gradle file to enable
> preview.
> 
>  compileJava {
>  options.compilerArgs =['--enable-preview']
>  }
>  run{
>  jvmArgs(['--enable-preview'])
>  }
> 
> 
>  I am not able to find and utility/model class to read and write into
>  build.gradle. So I am planning to read build.gradle as text file line
>  by line and then will manipulate the lines to add the parameters .
> 
>  I will be using the below APIs
> 
>  java.nio.file.Files.readAllLines(,
>  StandardCharsets.UTF_8);
>  java.nio.file.File.write(, lines,
>  StandardCharsets.UTF_8);
> 
>  Also I found that even if parameters were added in build.gradle, in
>  editor it still shows error for that below fix I am proposing
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_arusinha_incubator-2Dnetbeans_pull_3=DwIFaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=TcOkMvLD7qc02lagR7KuBiLDeNKXztf_6Bvny3re7l4=dE0lSzvPoiUK67lxrpK8ta3NErDqV9kpUNWwmsSLlaQ=
> 
>  Please let me know is there any better approach to read/write
>  build.gradle file.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Arunava sinha
> >>> -
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> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> -
> 

Re: Request for Help : Java Hint to enable Preview feature in gradle project

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Good point. :-)

Gj

On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 13:36, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 12:10, Geertjan Wielenga 
> wrote:
> > Not sure either, but if there’s no way (Laszlo might be able to advise
> > here) to set “enable-preview” on project level, then global (at least as
> a
> > fallback) would seem to be the only way to go.
>
> I was suggesting (badly) that somewhere in between project level and
> globally affecting every project in the IDE is the Java Platform API.
> Still not a great fallback, and doesn't ensure that anything is
> portable or compilable, but at least you can then choose which
> projects are affected by any "global" hint that way.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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>
>
>

Re: Still Plugging Away on Java EE Support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Excellent progress, thanks!

Gj

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:40 AM Josh Juneau  wrote:

> I wanted to post a quick update to let everyone know that I'm still
> working on adding Java EE 8 support to Apache NetBeans.  I've modified a
> number of modules, including maven.j2ee and some of the glassfish modules.
> I've been stuck on an issue trying to get the Java EE 8 Maven archetype to
> download when Java EE 8 is selected...so I may need some assistance.  I
> will try to get my sources updated into my fork so that my work can be
> reviewed.  I'll post an update when the sources are in GitHub.
>
> Thanks
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau

Re: ? about removing a deprecation..

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes that sounds good, make sure things still work afterwards, i.e., start
up NetBeans, do some work, maybe for a day or so, to see whether there are
any side effects.

Gj

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:02 AM Brad Walker  wrote:

> I see a lot of the following warnings when building..
>
>
> ...
> >[repeat]
> >
> /home/bwalker/src/netbeans-11.0-test/enterprise/j2eeserver/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/deployment/impl/query/J2eePlatformJavadocForBinaryQuery.java:180:
> > warning: [deprecation] getURL() in FileObject has been deprecated
> >[repeat] normalizedURL = fo.getURL();
> > ...
> >
>
> In looking at the code for FileObject, it seems like a straightforward
> change.
>
> Since there are approx. 160 instances of code like this, should this change
> be as simple as I think it should be?
>
> If so, I'm make the effort to change it.. 8-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> -brad w.
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans 11.0 Gradle Patch 1 Release

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1

Followed the instructions here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0+Gradle+Patch+1

Built everything successfully, ran NetBeans from 'nbbuild/netbeans/bin'
with a clean user directory, created a Gradle project, and did a build
which caused the Output window to automatically open, so this issue is
fixed as stated in the list above:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2035

So, looks great, thanks.

Gj

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:48 AM Antonio  wrote:

> +1
>
> - SHA & PGP keys are ok with keys at [1]
> - Builds OK. Maybe we want to add a flag to the "unzip" of the patch so
> that it overwrites everything ("-o  overwrite files WITHOUT prompting ")?
> - verify-libs-and-licenses reports 2 errors out of 5, but I think these
> are unrelated to the patch.
>
> Again I don't know how to test this functionally. Also I didn't check
> the adding NBMs to the IDE.
>
> Kind regards & thanks for this effort!,
> Antonio
>
> [1]
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.0-gradle-patch-1/
>
> El 20/5/19 a las 11:50, Eric Barboni escribió:
> > +1
> >
> > But there is a DISCLAMER in the nbm. That it's not needed now.
> > SHA,checksum,Pgp ok
> > Buildability on wsl ok
> >
> > I'm not a graddle user so I Cannot do functional testing.
> >
> > " unzip netbeans-11.0-gradle-patch-1-source.zip -o -d nb-gradle-patch-1"
> was not working as is. IT's supposed to overwrite, right?
> >
> > Regards
> > Eric
> >
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De : Laszlo Kishalmi 
> > Envoyé : lundi 20 mai 2019 04:08
> > À : Apache NetBeans 
> > Objet : [VOTE] Apache NetBeans 11.0 Gradle Patch 1 Release
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I'd like to call a vote on our first patch release under Apache.
> >
> > Please see the the details on this release on our Wiki:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0+Gradle+Patch+1
> >
> > The source package we are voting on:
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/11.0-gradle-patch-1/netbeans-11.0-gradle-patch-1-source.zip
> >
> > SHA512SUM:
> >
> >
> 6ade3a375a9b67a514c7368004a4b499fcac8d0072bb2aefbf0ef6e43a48bb29ed9b913cf8d1f61a0f4cf629b867cab42611ea3ad13fba537f6f98f55253cb60
> >
> > Please check:
> >
> > * SHA Checksums
> >
> > * PGP Signature
> >
> > * LICENSE and NOTICE files
> >
> > * Buildability
> >
> > * Patching an existing IDE from the provided NBM-s
> >
> > * Some testing of the fixes would be welcome as well
> >
> >
> > This thread would be open at least 72 hours and requires at least 3
> binding +1 votes to proceed.
> >
> > If this patch goes through, its distribution would happen through
> overwriting the nbm files in our 11.0 release area and replace the
> updates.xml.gz on the netbeans-vm.  We might update the download page with
> a link to this patch.
> >
> >
> > Thank you in advance!
> >
> > Laszlo Kishalmi
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
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Re: Re: UML Status

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Not sure when it will be, don't want to promise anything in terms of time
-- it will be some time after the 4th donation (C/C++ features) which is
planned for September.

Whether it will be in the main codebase or not depends on what you think,
what I think, what everyone thinks, together, like anything else here. :-)

Fixed that incubator reference and note that you can have access to the
Wiki so you can immediately fix any problems you find.

Note also that just because something has not yet been donated to Apache,
does not mean that you can't work on/with it, exactly as before.

For example, here's the source code constituting the UML features:

https://hg.netbeans.org/community-uml/file

Gj

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:52 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> Cool
>
> So maybe around release 13 timeframe?
>
> Will the community projects be in the main Netbeans codebase as well or
> will a seperate repository be setup for those?
>
> FYI, breadcrumbs at the top of that page still has incubator.
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
> > On May 17, 2019 at 10:43:42 AM CDT, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geert...@apache.org> wrote:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition
> >
> > Yes, upcoming, will be some time still, after C/C++ etc.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:18 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >
> > > What is the status of bringing in the UML plugs (if memory serves this
> may
> > > be part of community contribution)?
> > >
> > > Eric Bresie
> > > ebre...@gmail.com
>

Fwd: Travel Assistance for ApacheCon NA Las Vegas 2019 now open.

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

The applications for travel assistance for ApacheCon NA 2019 in Las Vegas
have been opened.

If you're going to present on Apache NetBeans, or other Apache projects,
and are prevented from doing so because of costs, see the below.

And please spread the word.

Thanks,

Gj

-- Forwarded message -
From: Gavin McDonald 
Date: Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:12 AM
Subject: Travel Assistance for ApacheCon NA Las Vegas 2019 now open.
To: 


Hi Committers!

The Travel Assistance Committee (TAC) are pleased to announce that travel
assistance applications for ApacheCon NA 2019 are now open!

We will be supporting ApacheCon NA Las Vegas, Nevada on 9th - 12th
September 2019

 TAC exists to help those that would like to attend ApacheCon events, but
are unable to do so for financial reasons.
For more info on this years applications and qualifying criteria, please
visit the TAC website at < http://www.apache.org/travel/ <
http://www.apache.org/travel/> >. Applications opened today and will close
around the 21st June.

Important: Applications close on June 21st, 2019. Applicants have until the
closing date above to submit their applications (which should contain as
much supporting material as required to efficiently and accurately process
their request), this will enable TAC to announce successful awards shortly
afterwards.

As usual, TAC expects to deal with a range of applications from a diverse
range of backgrounds. We therefore encourage (as always) anyone thinking
about sending in an application to do so ASAP.
We look forward to greeting many of you in Las Vegas!

Kind Regards,
Gavin - (On behalf of the Travel Assistance Committee)

Re: When is an iCLA needed?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Awesome! Pete, you’re an absolute validation of everything we’re doing here.

Gj

On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 19:42, Pete Whelpton  wrote:

> I'm not sure the handful of bug fixes I've submitted is significant -
> especially compared to huge amount of work contributed by others over the
> years ;)
>
> But I'm more than happy to sign an iCLA - I'll send one off to ASF
> tomorrow.
>
> All the best,
>
> Pete
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2019, 18:13 Geertjan Wielenga,  wrote:
>
> > I think Mark Phipps and Pete Whelpton have committed quite some code
> and/or
> > have PRs that are significant -- would be great if they're provide iCLAs,
> > i.e., how do we want to approach this, just ask them, hope they see this,
> > etc?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 5:08 PM Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Would it be possible to at  make sure when PR created by non commiter
> is
> > > created that this page has been read
> > > https://netbeans.apache.org/participate/submit-pr.html ?
> > > This may give idea to contributor that he may sign iCLA by themselves
> and
> > > start they journey in Apache.
> > > This because you may only come to Apache NetBeans via github.
> > >
> > > Idea of criteria for iCLA request
> > > -- mandatory for api changer ?
> > > -- full tutorial page writing ?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > -Message d'origine-
> > > De : Bertrand Delacretaz 
> > > Envoyé : jeudi 16 mai 2019 16:16
> > > À : dev 
> > > Objet : Re: When is an iCLA needed?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Christian Lenz  >
> > > wrote:
> > > > When I talk to colleagues about NetBeans contribution they say: „But
> > > > I’m not a Apache comitter.“ And some of them don’t want to sign such
> a
> > > > „contract“. And I say: „You don’t need to be one, just fork it, make
> a
> > > PR and that’s get reviewed“...
> > >
> > > That is correct. What's need is a clear intention to contribute, and
> > > forking + PR does that.
> > >
> > > As I said from the ASF's point of view the iCLA is only required when
> one
> > > is elected as a committer.
> > >
> > > Before that, the NetBeans PMC needs to clarify when an iCLA is
> desirable.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
> > > -
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Re: Wiki Docs

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Looks like it should be this: http://wiki.netbeans.org/FitnessMemoryLeaks

Yes, would be great to have an issue where we can list any problems or
missing items or glitches of any kind in relation to the Wiki.

Gj

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:27 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> While reviewing memory faq
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/DevFaqMemoryLeaks.asciidoc
>
> There was a link to the following which was unavailable.
>
> https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/FitnessMemoryLeaks.asciidoc
>
> Where can this be found?
>
> Is there a ticket for wiki migration issues and I missed it?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com

Re: Netbean Platform Not FInding Modules

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Best to after doing the build simply open the module into Apache NetBeans
11 that you want to work on. Then work on it and run it and the built IDE
will start and include your changes.

Gj


On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 17:17, Eric Bresie  wrote:

> So I have been trying to setup my environment to start working in netbean
> code development per the Getting started page
> https://netbeans.apache.org/help/getting-started.html
>
> And on the first video
>
> https://youtu.be/VC8gQJknPaU
>
> It talks about compiling with ant on the pulled down via git source which
> builds the nbbuild\netbean folder which is added then populated into the
> "Netbeans Platform" wizard with all the modules within Modules tab.
> However for some reason following my build and setup it seems to only show
> RCP module without the other items.
>
> Did I miss something or is this a potential issue?.
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
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Re: netbeans.org redirection status

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Well, the FAQ we have ported already, needs to be worked on and organized a
bit, would be great if you'd take a look:

https://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/index.asciidoc

Gj

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:01 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> Okaymay have missed this thread when I sent out my earlier email...
>
> Should  wiki.netbeans.org  redirect to someplace on netbeans.apache.org or
> is the expectation to remaining at netbeans.org?
>
> Or maybe redirect in some way to
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/
> 
>
> with any other material migrated over accordingly?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 11:58 AM Antonio  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > A short summary of where we're standing regarding the netbeans.org
> > redirection to netbeans.apache.org:
> >
> > - wiki.netbeans.org
> >
> > Seems to be working correctly.
> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Maven Remote

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Tell him to join this mailing list and ask and discuss here.

https://netbeans.apache.org/community/mailing-lists.html

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:53 PM Kenneth Fogel 
wrote:

> A follower on LinkedIn has asked me who he could contact to contribute to
> NetBeans to support remote development such as for a Raspberry Pi with a
> Maven based project. Let me know how he can get involved and I'll pass it
> on.
>
> Ken
>
>
>
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Re: Warning: can not install modules

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I'd recommend starting with a fresh user directory and installing the
Oracle JS Parser via the Plugin Manager after start up.

Gj

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 7:00 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> Downloaded recent 11.0 NB from download site.
>
> And on startup received the following:
>
> Warning - could not install some modules:
> Nashorn Integration - No module providing the capability
> com.oracle.js.parser.implementation could be found.
> 27 further modules could not be installed due to the above problems.
>
>
>
> I am running
>
> C:\git\netbeans.dev>java -version
> java version "1.8.0_201"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_201-b09)
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.201-b09, mixed mode)
>
>
> I do have newer versions on the system present including openjdk and update
> java 12 but the above shows what is the current default version.
>
> Is this maybe some corrupted temp / cached files maybe confusing the
> startup (as I do find even in the new install it is still picking up the
> last project I was working on)
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ebresie
>

Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Ideally the sources of the current state of the NetBeans Kotlin plugin
would be donated to Apache NetBeans. Does anyone have the right connections
to ask for this to happen?

Gj

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, Mario Schroeder  wrote:

> Yes, maintain as well.
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi  schrieb am Di., 30. Apr. 2019,
> 00:10:
>
> > Only supporter or willing to maintain the code as well?
> >
> > On 4/29/19 11:31 AM, Mario Schroeder wrote:
> > > Count me in as a supporter.
> > >
> > > Am Mo., 29. Apr. 2019 um 20:16 Uhr schrieb Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > > laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> There is an unmaintained plugin actually from JetBrains:
> > >>
> > >> https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans
> > >>
> > >> If there would be someone interested to support/maintain Kotlin we
> might
> > >> ask JetBrains for contribute this one to Apache NetBeans.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 4/29/19 10:58 AM, Mike Billman wrote:
> > >>> I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for
> > netbeans.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike Billman
> > >>>
> > >>> Senior Software Engineer
> > >>>
> > >>> CPTE
> > >>>
> > >>> qclogo
> > >>>
> > >>> 11800 Conrey Rd
> > >>>
> > >>> Suite 150
> > >>>
> > >>> Cincinnati, OH 45249
> > >>>
> > >>> T +1 513 469 1424
> > >>>
> > >>> E mikebill...@qcsoftware.com 
> > >>>
> > >>> F +1 513 469 1425
> > >>>
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
> >
>

Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues/137

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:40 PM Antonio Vieiro  wrote:

> I’d suggest asking them first. After all we’re polite guys...
>
> El El mar, 30 abr 2019 a las 10:47, Christian Lenz  >
> escribió:
>
> > Is there a Need to ask them for the code? Why not fork the code and add
> it
> > into the codebase? It is still Apache 2.0. Is it still possible that they
> > say: no we don’t want to see the code inside the core code? I’m not a
> > lawyer, just asking.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Antonio
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 09:52
> > An: dev@netbeans.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: kotlin support
> >
> > Wise words!
> >
> > El 30/04/2019 a las 9:50, Laszlo Kishalmi escribió:
> > > Apache 2.0 licensed, so on that part there is nothing wrong with that.
> > >
> > > We have just never actually did the simple thing to ask for their code.
> > >
> > > I do not say we shall not do the LSP, we shall keep on that route as
> > well.
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: kotlin support

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yup, that makes sense to me, at least, to focus on LSP instead.

Indeed, we should have asked in that discussion whether they'd like to
donate their Kotlin plugin to Apache NetBeans. Personally, I ended up being
very frustrated with their continual "well, there was never much interest
in this plugin and Kotlin in general from the NetBean community", etc,
while that very clearly was not true and they never created a solid plugin
to begin with.

Gj

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:29 AM Antonio  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There's a Kotlin Language Server here [1] that seems to be well
> supported (11 contributors) and is available under the MIT license.
>
> Maybe we should focus our efforts in helping out the LSP support in
> NetBeans [2], which is a long time effort by Jan.
>
> If we help out Jan with the LSP support our users would be able to use
> NetBeans for a wide range of languages [3], from Fortran, Nim and Rust
> to Lua, TypeScript and PowerShell (but for refactoring, which is lacking
> in LSP AFAIK) and, with [1] for Kotlin.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/fwcd/KotlinLanguageServer
>
> [2]
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/926
>
> [3]
> https://microsoft.github.io/language-server-protocol/implementors/servers/
>
> El 29/04/2019 a las 19:58, Mike Billman escribió:
> > I was curious what kind of kotlin support currently exists for netbeans.
> >
> > Mike Billman
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > CPTE
> >
> > [qclogo]
> >
> > 11800 Conrey Rd
> > Suite 150
> > Cincinnati, OH 45249
> >
> > T +1 513 469 1424
> > E mikebill...@qcsoftware.com
> > F +1 513 469 1425
> >
> >
>
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>

"incubating" on Downloads page

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Is there anything blocking us from removing 'incubating' everywhere on this
page:

https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html

Just checking,

Gj

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans HTML/Java API version 1.6.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

+1 works for me and looks good to me.

Gj

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:01 AM Eric Barboni  wrote:

> +1
>
> We should not use md5 and sha1 on the dist area.
>
> Regards
> Eric
>
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Jaroslav Tulach 
> Envoyé : dimanche 5 mai 2019 08:36
> À : dev@netbeans.apache.org
> Objet : [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans HTML/Java API version 1.6.1
>
> Dear members of Apache NetBeans community.
>
> Please cast your vote about my attempt to release the Apache NetBeans HTML/
> Java API version 1.6.1 library. The release is staged at
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-html4j/netbeans-htm
> l4j-1.6.1/
> 
>
> e.g. it is in no longer in the incubator staging location, but at a top
> level project place. ZIP file with sources, signed by an .asc file with all
> possible checksums is there, ready for your review.
>
> In addition to that the Maven artifacts built from the same changeset
> [release-1.6.1](
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-html4j/tree/release-1.6.1)
> are available in the following staging repository:
>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1025/
>
> Please do some testing and cast your vote by Wednesday May 8, 2019. Thanks
> for your review and votes.
> -jt
>
> PS: You can test the Maven bits by adding following snippet (with
> appropriate XML closing tags) to your $HOME/.m2/settings.xml file:
>
> 
> http://maven.apache.org/SETTINGS/1.0.0; xmlns:xsi="
> http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
>   xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/SETTINGS/1.0.0
> http://maven.apache.org/xsd/settings-1.0.0.xsd;>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> html-java-api-1.6.1
> 
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/
> orgapachenetbeans-1025/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
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Re: Volunteer Release Manager(s) Needed for Apache NetBeans 11.1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Absolutely agree, extremely happy to see you taking this on.

Off-list cajoler in chief,

Gj

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 11:55 AM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 07:10, Laszlo Kishalmi 
> wrote:
> > Probably we shall agree on how would we imagine the 11.1 release.
>
> OK, following up on other thread email, and a little off-list cajoling! ;-)
>
> I'd happily volunteer to take this on, but I'd like to do as described
> in the other thread with a release snapshot of master, and with the
> intention of trying to tidy up the various visions (or not!) of
> time-based releases into a process everyone is on board with, so that
> we're not trying to re-imagine the release process each time.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: Uploading binaries to osuosl.org?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Emi should know, he set it up.

Gj

On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 01:04, Antonio  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> How am I supposed to upload binaries to
> http://netbeans.osuosl.org/binaries/?
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
> P.S.: Is this documented anywhere? I'd happy to document it. The Infra
> section in our confluence seems a good fit.
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