Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Antonio
On 26/09/18 06:17, Tim Boudreau wrote: The plugins site could sign modules, but since it aggregates modules from elsewhere, that wouldn't mean much. And if the signature is not tied to the download host, all it means is "someone signed it" - a proxy that injects code and signs the result would

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, exactly, you will create a release branch on the 30th and the first voting candidate on October 1. With that achieved, we’ll be in really good shape to complete the release on schedule. Gj On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > This looks great! > I just wanted to ask

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Agreed. Let's see how things go for this release. But we may need to focus on 3 releases per year, potentially one or two of them synced with new releases of the JDK, or else we must make this 2 months release process shorter in future, somehow. Gj On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, John

Re: Future of JavaHelp (or a replacement) in NetBeans?

2018-09-25 Thread Tim Boudreau
Generate HTML files. Publish them online. Let modules include a help URL and when herp is invoked, find out via the classloader. A netty based web server can run in an 8mb memory footprint. Have an "offline help" module that bundles them and a tiny web server. For third party modules, have the

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Tim Boudreau
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:04 PM Antonio wrote: > Hi Kenneth, > > I don't think there's any security related problem here. The Apache > Mirror System, for instance, uses "http" frequently. IMHO there's no > need to encrypt files that are publicly available for everyone to see. Nonsense. There

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Antonio
Hi Kenneth, No need to apologize at all. On the contrary. I think it's very good reporting things that we think are security concerns. Whether these are really affecting users' security or not can be discussed later. The important thing is to raise these quickly and clearly, as you've done.

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Which NetBeans domains to keep?

2018-09-25 Thread Efrem Mc
One note, subdomains can do rollups if using SEO and analytics with one single point to review, and multiple domains are separate unless cross domain configuration is required. Separate domains allows collections and analytics about your traffic flow by domain. It all depends on if the data is

OffTopic: Java 11 Removed Modules

2018-09-25 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Hi all! Is there somebody what happens with the removed modules of JDK? I guess the codebase still has some value and should be able to compiled and distributed on its own, even if it is not part of the JDK any more. Thanks!

Re: PHP readiness for Apache NetBeans 10?

2018-09-25 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
I've added it[1]. Then I've integrated PHPStan[2]. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/891 [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/896 Thanks, Junichi On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 7:30 PM Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > > I'll try adding the php cluster to

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread John McDonnell
My one concern with the timetable is that it looks like its under 2 months to do a release (if all goes well) from the 24th September to 15 November. While this is doable and I have no problems with Jiri's timeframe, it does imo put a little strain on us if we are attempting to do quarterly

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Which NetBeans domains to keep?

2018-09-25 Thread Brett Ryan
I’m thinking the same thing here. stageing.netbeans.org for one makes sense to me, all others should be subdomains also. > On 24 Sep 2018, at 23:21, Scott Palmer wrote: > > I’m curious as to why subdomains are not used instead? > > stage.netbeans.org > dev.netbeans.org > > I agree that .com

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
This looks great! I just wanted to ask for the NetBeans 10 Release Schedule, as it seems we do not have it in the Wiki. Shall we create a different page for that? As far as I feel we have the "go through the PRs and merge" week this week, finalize the scope by Sept 30. cut the release

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
To me, this looks good and doable -- though I agree Laszlo needs to take a look at this proposal too from his release manager perspective, at least to be aware of this schedule. Thanks, Gj On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > Hello NetBeans community, > >the November

Re: Observation on info in the "About" screen in NetBeans 9.0

2018-09-25 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Good catch! Would you create an issue on that? On 09/25/2018 09:35 AM, Kenneth Jaeger wrote: Has anyone else seen this behavior? I am just curious if this is also how it appears on a clean install. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:46 AM Kenneth Jaeger wrote: The "About" screen in NetBeans 9.0

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Kenneth Jaeger
Apologies for not classifying this correctly. Yes, this is not a security issue with NetBeans itself. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:47 PM Antonio wrote: > Hi Kenneth, > > I fully agree with you. I'd add a JIRA so we can remember it, but I > won't classify this as a security problem. For me

Re: PR Submitted for JUnit 5 Support - Looking for help testing

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
One thing to do is to update the JUnit spec to include the new JUnit 5 support, I think: http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/title/junit_testing_specification/ Gj On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:54 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > Hi All, > > I have submitted a PR today for JUnit 5

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Peter Steele
Kenneth apache.netbeans.org supports https, so once everything redirects here we should be good by default. There is a Jira to find a solution to the plugin hosting question once we go fully move over but I think that's the still TBD. Maybe find that Jira and add some comments to mention the new

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Antonio
Hi Kenneth, I fully agree with you. I'd add a JIRA so we can remember it, but I won't classify this as a security problem. For me security issues have special priority, I don't see that priority here. Kind regards, Antonio On 25/09/18 19:16, Kenneth Jaeger wrote: I understand since there

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Kenneth Jaeger
I understand since there is no login information being sent to plugins.netbeans.org, that security is less of a concern, but this is a front facing website. It is not just used by the IDE. Browsers are going to start yelling at us when we go to any http site (as I personally think they should

Re: Per-cluster repo layout loose ends

2018-09-25 Thread John McDonnell
Recently I've been looking at doing a complete end to end jenkinsfile to replace the 5 jenkins jobs down to 1 multibranch pipeline that will build and test both windows and linux and not duplicate some of the steps like some jobs do. This error happens every so often on my builds, and I've been

Re: SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Antonio
Hi Kenneth, I don't think there's any security related problem here. The Apache Mirror System, for instance, uses "http" frequently. IMHO there's no need to encrypt files that are publicly available for everyone to see. Security is on the IDE side: verifying that the downloaded file has not

Re: Build binaries hosting (was Re: Jenkins Builds)

2018-09-25 Thread Antonio
El 24/09/2018 a las 21:28, Matthias Bläsing escribió: I don't like the rush - Oracle claims to be able to host whole clouds, it should be possible to continue providing a simple server for a few months. Wise words. I don't like the rush either. As Gj points in another email it's not about

SECURITY: plugins.netbeans.org domain not secure

2018-09-25 Thread Kenneth Jaeger
The plugins.netbeans.org does not use https by default, nor does it allow https. An error occurs if you try to change it to https. The updates.netbeans.org site does allow the use of https, but does not redirect to https if http is used.

Re: Per-cluster repo layout loose ends

2018-09-25 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Eric, Am Dienstag, den 25.09.2018, 17:25 +0200 schrieb Eric Barboni: > New layout make git repo clearer, great job. > I just have an issue on "ant clean" (failing at a time build > is cleaning platform/openide.util.lookup module) is this target > supposed to work ? it normally does.

TR: [Platform] Maven artefacts

2018-09-25 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi, I'm afraid this will be complicated. We don't know the previous process of 8.2 artefact publication. There is a way with OSSRH [1] but we need more complete pom.xml that we had on bits.netbeans.org. Pom generated by nb-repository maven plugin [2] do not have licence section (others

Re: Observation on info in the "About" screen in NetBeans 9.0

2018-09-25 Thread Kenneth Jaeger
Has anyone else seen this behavior? I am just curious if this is also how it appears on a clean install. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:46 AM Kenneth Jaeger wrote: > The "About" screen in NetBeans 9.0 has an "Updates" line that seems > erroneous or inaccurate. > Here is the full text from the

Re: [news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 09/25/2018 08:34 AM, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > Hello NetBeans community, > >    the November release of Apache NetBeans is quickly approaching so I > would like to propose a schedule for the NetCAT 10.0 program [1]. > Release drivers for version 10.0 are JDK 11 features and PHP support. > > [1]

RE: Per-cluster repo layout loose ends

2018-09-25 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi, New layout make git repo clearer, great job. I just have an issue on "ant clean" (failing at a time build is cleaning platform/openide.util.lookup module) is this target supposed to work ? Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Geertjan Wielenga Envoyé : mercredi 12 septembre

[news] NetCAT 10.0 proposal

2018-09-25 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Hello NetBeans community, the November release of Apache NetBeans is quickly approaching so I would like to propose a schedule for the NetCAT 10.0 program [1]. Release drivers for version 10.0 are JDK 11 features and PHP support. [1]

Re: Jakarta EE and Apache NetBeans 10

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Nice. If those working on Java EE manage to get everything done this week, we could include that cluster in the first voting candidate for Apache NetBeans 10 -- and then if there turn out to be serious problems, we could then decide to exclude that cluster in the next voting candidate. But only

Re: Future of JavaHelp (or a replacement) in NetBeans?

2018-09-25 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Am 25.09.18 um 01:00 schrieb Jan Tosovsky: On 2018-09-24 Peter Nabbefeld wrote: Am 23.09.18 um 21:20 schrieb Jan Tosovsky: On 2018-09-18 Peter Nabbefeld wrote: What about some JavaHelp 3.0 (which probably needs a new name), building on Lucene but with a replaceable GUI (probably based on

Re: Jakarta EE and Apache NetBeans 10

2018-09-25 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Geertjan, Yes, I've not made it through the licensing for the Java EE modules as quickly as I had hoped to. There are a couple of particularly messy modules that I've been working with...but I will try to get through more this week. Thanks for following up...I appreciate it! On Tue, Sep 25,

Re: Jakarta EE and Apache NetBeans 10

2018-09-25 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I see a lot of items still open in the 'enterprise' cluster when I look at the Rat report: https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/826/artifact/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt Gj On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Josh Juneau wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been trying to get through the

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Which NetBeans domains to keep?

2018-09-25 Thread Efrem Mc
vote +1, to keep most of the domains for transition purpose and notes below: Basically restated: 1. Consider the redirects as noted from Gj and also what Ken F. and Ed's additions of netbeans.com, .net, and .info for the reasons they stated above. 2. Keep fake sites away in case