NetBeans is module
based. Nothing of them is related to the Version. Neither the Java
implementation nor the other core Plugins.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Chuck Davis
Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2019 22:42
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Sun, Jan 27
On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 10:28 AM Christian Lenz wrote:
>
> TLDR;
> Please everyone, go away from Connection JDK/Java with NetBeans. NetBeans is
> for years an IDE for a lot more languages. Java should not anymore the main
> Language that is full featured supported in NetBeans than others that
I suggest that those who're most in favor of more than 2 releases can start
making it happen right now -- evaluate some of the pull requests:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls
And help resolve the 600+ broken tests related to the introduction of
Graal.js parser:
them. There is always work todo.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2019 19:48
An: dev
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
Absolutely agree.
However, we do need to release at specific points in the time/space
continuum, don't we?
Here is the proposal
;
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Von: Neil C Smith
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2019 19:03
> > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at
.3 or 8.4, because only critical bug
> fixes after the release.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Januar 2019 19:03
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>
> On Sun, 27 Ja
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:51, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> Well, since there are two releases of the JDK this here, neatly
> interspersed in March and September, it seems like a logical approach to
&g
Well, since there are two releases of the JDK this here, neatly
interspersed in March and September, it seems like a logical approach to
follow, with the benefit that we could potentially end up having NetBeans
bundles with a JDK, if the stars align. The stars are less likely to align
if we
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 14:32, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> Well, maybe I see it too simply, but the March and September releases are
> in line with the JDK releases, hence these are major releases, call them
> what you will, 11, 11.0, or whatever, I don't mind or see much difference,
> and then
Well, maybe I see it too simply, but the March and September releases are
in line with the JDK releases, hence these are major releases, call them
what you will, 11, 11.0, or whatever, I don't mind or see much difference,
and then there are two minor releases in between, depending on whether we
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 13:41, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> I see the difference between 11.0 and 11.1 being the same kind of
> difference as between 8.0 and 8.1.
..
> A patch release would, in my understanding, never be 8.1 or 11.1 or
> anything like that.
But that is different to the original
I see the difference between 11.0 and 11.1 being the same kind of
difference as between 8.0 and 8.1.
But no one I know of talked about "NetBeans 8.0", everyone talked about
"NetBeans 8".
A patch release would, in my understanding, never be 8.1 or 11.1 or
anything like that.
Gj
On Sat, Jan 26,
On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 08:30, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> Thanks for taking the lead and setting up the vote threads.
Sorry, I'm abstaining from voting on this until someone can articulate
a consensus viewpoint on what the difference between 11.1 and 12.0
would be.
If the intention is that the
Thanks for taking the lead and setting up the vote threads.
Gj
On Saturday, January 26, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Well, all I am wishing for is clarity and consistency.
>
> Though as humans, naming a baby creates a real active discussion, however
> the most important thing is that it
Well, all I am wishing for is clarity and consistency.
Though as humans, naming a baby creates a real active discussion,
however the most important thing is that it should be healthy.
There were a few attempts on this list to bring up the topic every
attempt died with time without actually
. We are not bind to
RELEASE... version I guess.
Anyway I will follow the decision.
Eric
-Message d'origine-
De : Emilian Bold
Envoyé : vendredi 25 janvier 2019 11:01
À : NetBeans Dev@
Objet : Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
> Or should we change the apidocs, the maven artefa
; Envoyé : vendredi 25 janvier 2019 10:12
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>
> Hi,
> I don't like calendar versioning. I have problem with remember it. It is more
> easy to remember 11 or 11.0 than 2019.03. What will be next version
> 2019.02
+1 for calver. (Yearh.month)
Cheers
Chris
Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Januar 2019 10:41
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 09:12, Tomas Poledny wrote:
> I don't like calendar versioning. I have prob
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 09:12, Tomas Poledny wrote:
> I don't like calendar versioning. I have problem with remember it. It is
> more easy to remember 11 or 11.0 than 2019.03. What will be next version
> 2019.02 or 2019.03 or 2019.04 and what was previous version?
>
> So +1 for 11.0
Yes, +1 for
Envoyé : vendredi 25 janvier 2019 10:12
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
Hi,
I don't like calendar versioning. I have problem with remember it. It is more
easy to remember 11 or 11.0 than 2019.03. What will be next version
2019.02 or 2019.03 or 2019.04
+1 to calendar versioning.
+1 to NOT using nicknames. I still have to learn if Debian Wheezy is
older or newer than Debian WhateverTheFlippingName
El 25/01/2019 a las 10:02, Daniel Gruno escribió:
On 1/25/19 9:48 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Are you saying you're against Emilian's
t; >>>> And for the codenames, I mean 2019.03 could have also a moon chemical
> >>>> thing like Natrium or whatever. For me it is more to say and, instead
> >> of or.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> &g
Chris
Von: Kenneth Fogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 20:44
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one
knows
what the most recent version is. For example, we could use the names
so a moon chemical
> >> thing like Natrium or whatever. For me it is more to say and, instead
> of or.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Von: Kenneth Fogel
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Von: Kenneth Fogel
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 20:44
> >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> Betreff: RE: Apache NetBeans
thing like Natrium or whatever. For me it is more to say and, instead of or.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Kenneth Fogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 20:44
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so
Sure, but as you can see, we have different opinions about that. I mean if it
is that simple, we can now start a vote for the suggestions?
Cheers
Chris
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Januar 2019 09:30
An: dev
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
I think whatever
netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: RE: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>
> We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one knows
> what the most recent version is. For example, we could use the names of the
> 63 moons of Jupiter, the planet with the most moons. A
And for the codenames, I mean 2019.03 could have also a moon chemical thing
like Natrium or whatever. For me it is more to say and, instead of or.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Kenneth Fogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 20:44
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Apache NetBeans
I think this is something to discuss and we could probably reach consensus
around it without a vote. I’m in favor of it for its simplicity and indeed
alignment with other tools.
Gj
On Friday, January 25, 2019, Emilian Bold wrote:
> So now, both IntelliJ and Eclipse use calendar versioning
So now, both IntelliJ and Eclipse use calendar versioning (2019.03)
but it seems crazy to suggest this for NetBeans?
I guess this is also a branding strategy: be against the trends.
--emi
http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 10:58 PM
Just so you know, Eclipse stopped using this nomenclature recently!
>From now on, it's going to simply be the year and month of release (e.g.:
Eclipse IDE 2018-12)!
C.
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:44 PM Kenneth Fogel
wrote:
> We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one
Just to increase the insanity level, one of my former projects used
codnames from the periodic table of elements.
So what would you say on: Apache NetBeans Natrium? or just Apache
NetBeans Na, and when the patch version comes: Apache NetBeans Na+
On 1/24/19 12:31 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
But then we need 51 voting threads!
--emi
http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 9:44 PM Kenneth Fogel
wrote:
>
> We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one knows
> what the most recent version is. For
We could use seemingly random words like Eclipse does so that no one knows what
the most recent version is. For example, we could use the names of the 63 moons
of Jupiter, the planet with the most moons. Also, select them randomly, users
will catch on if we do it alphabetically. Here are the 51
Seems so odd to have multiple voting threads because Apache rules
can't allow multiple options voting...
I also want to include calendar versioning aka 'NetBeans 2019.03' on
the voting list. So that makes 3 voting threads?
--emi
http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 16:52 Christian Lenz There was no 8, there was 8.0 and it was not a minor, it was the major
> release after 7.3.
>
You're still missing my point! ;-) IMO 7.3, 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 were all the same
level of release. They're only major / minor if you assume the intention is
semantic
s.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: AW: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>
> 10.0 was not used for the Images like the Splash screen and the About
> Dialog.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Geertjan Wielenga
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 19:09
>
@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
10.0 was not used for the Images like the Splash screen and the About Dialog.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 19:09
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans
10.0 was not used for the Images like the Splash screen and the About Dialog.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 19:09
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
Well, we used 10.0 the last time, so why not 11.0 now
Well, we used 10.0 the last time, so why not 11.0 now. I still don’t really
understand why though, or why it matters, but I’ll support either way.
Gj
On Thursday, January 24, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Well, all I'm seeking is the consensus here. I have pro-s for both of
> them.
>
> What
Yeah, let’s vote.
Von: Laszlo Kishalmi
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 18:53
An: Apache NetBeans
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
Well, all I'm seeking is the consensus here. I have pro-s for both of them.
What about, if I start two voting threads on each version
Well, all I'm seeking is the consensus here. I have pro-s for both of them.
What about, if I start two voting threads on each version and whichever
got the most +1 in three days will win?
(I know it is a kind of pity, but sometimes small things matter.)
On 1/23/19 10:41 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi
should be consistent
everywhere.
Cheers
Chris
Von: Emilian Bold
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 18:01
An: NetBeans Dev@
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
>From a branding perspective, 10 and 11 sound better. 'NetBeans 10',
'NetBeans 11' is like a big, memorable rele
they don’t release only 2019
(patch 1 or whatever).
Cheers
Chris
Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 17:52
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
Hey Neil,
There was no 8, there was 8.0 and it was not a minor, it was the major release
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 14:45 Christian Lenz Still from my point of view, there was no reason from switching from 9.0
> to 10 (and not to 10.0).
>
In which case you missed the point I was trying to make. There *was* a
reason! 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 were hardly
>From a branding perspective, 10 and 11 sound better. 'NetBeans 10',
'NetBeans 11' is like a big, memorable release.
'NetBeans 11.0' underlines the work-in-progress nature of it. (Of
course, after 11.0 there must be a 11.1?)
I think calendar versioning (there's even a site for it
NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 14:45 Christian Lenz Still from my point of view, there was no reason from switching from 9.0
> to 10 (and not to 10.0).
>
In which case you missed the point I was trying to make. There *was* a
reason! 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 were hardly minor - the
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019, 14:45 Christian Lenz Still from my point of view, there was no reason from switching from 9.0
> to 10 (and not to 10.0).
>
In which case you missed the point I was trying to make. There *was* a
reason! 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 were hardly minor - the 8 just referred to Java 8.
There
, not 8.2.2)
Now under Apache, we have
9.0 (Major, w/ 0)
10 (Major, w/o 0)
11 (Open discussion for 11 or 11.0)
Cheers
Chris
Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 15:33
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 13:56
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 13:56, Christian Lenz wrote:
>
> +1 for 11.0 for almost everything. No Need to Change it from 7.0, 8.0, 9.0 to
> 10 or 11. There was no reason for that of changing it. My 2 cents
>
Sorry, I disagree with that point. NetBeans 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 were
quite distinct releases
+1 for 11.0 for almost everything. No Need to Change it from 7.0, 8.0, 9.0 to
10 or 11. There was no reason for that of changing it. My 2 cents
Cheers
Chris
Von: Laszlo Kishalmi
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 08:00
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache NetBeans 11
Yes we might have a first minor/patch release inside of Apache as 11.1
in June.
On 1/23/19 10:44 PM, Vano Beridze wrote:
11 patch 1,2,...?
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 10:42 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
Well, probably it is the right time to decide: 11 or 11.0 ?
11 patch 1,2,...?
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 10:42 AM Laszlo Kishalmi Well, probably it is the right time to decide: 11 or 11.0 ?
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