[jira] [Closed] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-4833. -- Resolution: Fixed This is completed with r1417329 Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions: SlimDown Reporter: Jacques Le

Re: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-05 Thread Tom Burns
you: Nelly Burns From: Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA) j...@apache.org To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:36 AM Subject: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833?page

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-04 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
-log4j12-1.6.4.jar. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-04 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
-1.2.16.jar Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-04 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
in name) we have only one snapshot jar and I think it's needed: jdbm-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar see http://jdbm.sourceforge.net/ So we are close to close Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Paul Piper (JIRA)
with SOAP. I would argue that perhaps instead of removing, we may want to make it easier to use? Apart from that: good job identifying. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
org.springframework.web-3.1.0.M2.jar Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
at all, I guess it's a misunderstanding? Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Paul Piper (JIRA)
:) Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions: SlimDown Reporter

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
-annotations-1.0.jar log4j-1.2.16.jar slf4j-log4j12-1.6.4.jar xml-apis-ext-1.3.04.jar yuicompressor-2.4.6.jar org.springframework.core-3.1.0.M2.jar org.springframework.test-3.1.0.M2.jar org.springframework.web-3.1.0.M2.jar Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-03 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
-1.2.16.jar slf4j-log4j12-1.6.4.jar org.springframework.core-3.1.0.M2.jar org.springframework.test-3.1.0.M2.jar org.springframework.web-3.1.0.M2.jar Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux updated OFBIZ-4833: --- Attachment: jar.pdf Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
] :if ~�/�/file�license file :endif :endif :endfor {code} PS: I have finally attached a jar.PDF where you can see the APL code. All this remembers me how fun it was to work with APL during 20 years :) Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Assigned] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jacques Le Roux reassigned OFBIZ-4833: -- Assignee: Jacques Le Roux Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-12-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
an issue: reverted (was OFBIZ-4792) at r1416358 saxon65.jar is there for newhelp (OFBIZ-4941), I will add it in LICENSE when I will commit, hopefully soon... Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-07-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
pacth was never integrated I did my best but I could have missed some... Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-07-08 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
(rename old jars to add release numbers in the file name). I think that those which remains are OK, but I could have missed one or 2... Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-07-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
*.jar and ij.sh- have been moved to Attic Update on axis1.4 and crowd Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-07-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
project since nobody knows where they are. I also marked as done most of subtasks, please check and reopen if you think it's needed. So only remains Axis1.4 because of Crowd, both could be moved to Extras in my opinion Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-07-02 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
marked as done most of subtasks, please check and reopen if you think it's needed. So only remains Axis1.4 because of Crowd, both could be moved to Extras in my opinion Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-06-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
helper.jar-: they will go in Extra, one worry less * -ofbiz-tools.jar- must stay as is * -derbytools*.jar and ij.sh- have been moved to Attic ) Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-06-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
# rename old jars to add release numbers in the file name See [this thread|http://markmail.org/message/z4sl4chpgdfacydq] for more Moved one of my comment in description to let other people edit it Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
to Birt so will be also moved to Extra Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
\lib attributes.jar ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar (should stay as is, I guess) * -derbytools*.jar and ij.sh have been moved to Attic- Housekeeping of jar files - Key

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions: SlimDown

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-27 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar-: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar must stay as is * -derbytools*.jar and ij.sh- have been moved to Attic Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-26 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
://www.jarfinder.com/index.php/jars/versionInfo/507]. We should simply wait Birt move Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz

[jira] [Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-26 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
=rev) * jcl.jar * \specialpurpose\ebaystore\lib attributes.jar ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar (should stay as is, I guess) * -derbytools*.jar and ij.sh have been moved to Attic- Housekeeping of jar files

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-14 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I will begin to push things to Attic, notably what describes Jacopo below and other stuff, see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 In my mind this means to create an Attic page in Wiki and to reference there things removed from the repository at some revisions. Hence people will

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
else)... Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions

Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Last reminder before doing what Jacopo proposed at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833?focusedCommentId=13260336page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13260336 We should also remove derbytools-*.jar together with the ij.sh script that uses it

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
[this thread|http://markmail.org/message/z4sl4chpgdfacydq] for more I makes all remaining jar marked as svn binary Note: I could not apply it to ofbiz-tools.jar (still there after an ant clean, normal?) and cobertura-1.9.3.jar (not sure why) Housekeeping of jar files

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux
In the same spirit, has someone still the source files for of biz-minerva.jar, else the lib will be moved to Attic .- Jacques From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com Last reminder before doing what Jacopo proposed at

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
ofbiz-tools.jar, else I think it can stay as is. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
/z4sl4chpgdfacydq] for more Remove note, now useless, see comment Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques, Doing a search on minerva + ofbiz I found: - this thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-user/200610.mbox/%3cd90d225f-4aca-43f0-8742-e5f604fd1...@opensourcestrategies.com%3Eread the first line - this reference:

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-05-13 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com Jacques, Doing a search on minerva + ofbiz I found: - this thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-user/200610.mbox/%3cd90d225f-4aca-43f0-8742-e5f604fd1...@opensourcestrategies.com%3E Hi Pierre, What do you mean? How is it related

[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1076756view=rev) * jcl.jar * \specialpurpose\ebaystore\lib attributes.jar ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar (should stay as is, I guess) Housekeeping of jar files

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
) make sure all jar files are marked as binary I actually didn't check all the jar files consistently. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
). Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions: SlimDown

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL COMPONENTS Affects Versions: SlimDown

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Jacopo Cappellato (JIRA)
just setup it in his/her local box. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task Components: ALL

Re: [jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-24 Thread Pierre Smits
left out of the project because there is no integration and a developer willing to use it can just setup it in his/her local box. Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
* \specialpurpose\ebaystore\lib attributes.jar ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar (should stay as is, I guess) Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https

[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
=1076756view=rev) * jcl.jar * \specialpurpose\ebaystore\lib attributes.jar ebaycalls.jar ebaysdkcore.jar helper.jar: they will go in Extra, one worry less * ofbiz-tools.jar (should stay as is, I guess) Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833

[jira] [Created] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-21 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
Jacques Le Roux created OFBIZ-4833: -- Summary: Housekeeping of jar files Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4833 Project: OFBiz Issue Type: Task

[jira] [Updated] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-21 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
(whenever possible) # upgrade jars to use latest versions (whenever possible) # remove jars no more needed # rename old jars to add release numbers in the file name Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833 URL: https

[jira] [Commented] (OFBIZ-4833) Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-21 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)
(please Jacopo confirm and then strike from the description) I believe task 2 is not needed but can't guarantee I'm working on subsequent tasks (ie 3 to 6), see the thread in description Housekeeping of jar files - Key: OFBIZ-4833

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Pierre, As you committed the org.springframework* files I'd prefer that you check if using v3.1.1 as suggested Pierre would work (I suppose, but who knows before testing) while I focus on renaming not versionned libs Thanks Jacques From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com Jacques,

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks Jacques, But you should credit and address Hans Bakker as he committed the org.springframework jars in r1163084http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1163084. I am just a contributor. But I can submit a patch, if you want me to. Regards, Pierre Op 15 april 2012 10:28

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux
With Pierre's comment, I haved added in the list: * jython-nooro.jar : can't find any evidences, somebody an idea? I think we should update to a newer version (scripting). Or even wonder, since there is no use OOTB, if we should not comment out in service engine and let people download the

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Pierre, Oops, indeed forgot to put Hans, before As you committed the org.springframework* files I'd prefer that you check if using v3.1.1 as suggested Pierre would work (I suppose, but who knows Please let's wait Hans's answer Jacques From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Grin. No problem. Op 15 april 2012 11:45 schreef Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com het volgende: Hi Pierre, Oops, indeed forgot to put Hans, before As you committed the org.springframework* files I'd prefer that you check if using v3.1.1 as suggested Pierre would work

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques, I can provide a patch that: 1. removes the org.springframework related jar from framework/testtools/lib 2. has a target called download-testtools in build.xml that downloads the jars r3.1.0 by using ivy 3. has a new config setup in ivy.xml for the download of the

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Is this something we would want in our 'slimdown' branch/version? If I am not wrong these jars are related to the Seleniumxml integration added to testtools and we discussed in the user list about the opportunity to remove it and there was a

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Then the patch will be even shorter. Pierre Op 15 april 2012 15:28 schreef Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com het volgende: On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Is this something we would want in our 'slimdown' branch/version? If I am not wrong these jars are

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com On Apr 15, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Is this something we would want in our 'slimdown' branch/version? If I am not wrong these jars are related to the Seleniumxml integration added to testtools and we discussed in the

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacopo, Please keep in mind that there is a GSOC 2012 task running regarding selenium under the supervision of Erwan. See OFBIZ-4189https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4189 Also, in a reply to your mail with title 'Who is using the seleniumxml and why?' Hans stated that it is being used

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 15, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: Jacopo, Please keep in mind that there is a GSOC 2012 task running regarding selenium under the supervision of Erwan. See OFBIZ-4189https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4189 I would suggest to defer to that task the decision about

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-14 Thread Jacques Le Roux
* we have jars in OFBiz (some of them very old) with no release number in their file name: we have to research and find the release number and then document it (manually renaming the file OR editing a tool config file like Ivy... I don't care at the moment) I can take care of that I found

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-14 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
Le 12/04/2012 17:02, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : On Apr 12, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: ivy would rename the jars the way we want (eg package-version.jar), and using ivy, we would then reduce the LICENSE file, as less jars would be released with OFBiz. From an extremist POV,

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-14 Thread Pierre Smits
Also without version number: - jython-nooro.jar - axis-ant.jar - org.springframework.core-3.1.0.M2.jar - org.springframework.test-3.1.0.M2.jar - org.springframework.web-3.1.0.M2.jar - selenium-server.jar - jpos18-controls.jar Regards, Pierre Op 14 april 2012 13:44 schreef

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-14 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Pierre, I have added to my list - jython-nooro.jar - axis-ant.jar - selenium-server.jar - org.springframework.core-3.1.0.M2.jar - org.springframework.test-3.1.0.M2.jar - org.springframework.web-3.1.0.M2.jar Seems more to be in the * we have jar files that are

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-14 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques, According to mvnrepository the org.springframework has a 3.1.1 release available. See http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework, but also a 3.1.0 release version. The jars seem to be related to testtools, so I wonder whether these should be in... Regards, Pierre Op 14

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-13 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 12, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: First of all I believe that (packaged) releases are intended for non-developers (end users) and not for developers. That in mind, releases should have everything that is needed to run generic production systems. And nothing more, not test

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-13 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacopo, I agree. The long term solution is nice to have. But for now, there has work to be done. I'll see what I can do, and create the JIRA if it not already exists. Regards, Pierre Op 13 april 2012 08:27 schreef Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com het volgende: On Apr

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Adrian Crum
I believe Tidy is used by some of the HTTP client libraries, and Commons VFS was used by Webslinger (it might be used currently by Jackrabbit). -Adrian On 4/11/2012 5:49 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Hi all, the following are housekeeping tasks that could be part of the SlimDown roadmap we

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Rajbir Saini
BTW, how to you checkout OFBiz or download the source if there is no Internet connection. I know we can build with Maven without Internect connection once you have downloaded the dependencies when you build first time. Also, OFBiz similar to other should have a different binary release and

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Thanks Adrian, I can confirm that Commons VFS was used by Webslinger... can someone confirm that it is now required by Jackrabbit? And if yes, what is the version required by Jackrabbit? Can we at least use a stable version of it rather than a snapshot? Jacopo On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:23 AM,

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi Raj, From: Rajbir Saini rajbsa...@yahoo.com BTW, how to you checkout OFBiz or download the source if there is no Internet connection. I know we can build with Maven without Internect connection once you have downloaded the dependencies when you build first time. A real important issue

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Rajbir Saini
Hi Jacques, I agree there are minor problems when libraries are downloaded form different repositories. I had been in similar situation couple of time in the past. But again, source repository is not really to store the binary contents. We cant main any versioning information of the jars in

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacques Le Roux
To be frank, when I 1st read Pierre's proposition I thought it was a good idea and just wanted to ask him for patches :p Then I put my black hat (played the devil's advocate if you prefer) and began to think about drawbacks and possibles issues. No Internet connection poped to my mind and then

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
2012/4/12 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com: To be frank, when I 1st read Pierre's proposition I thought it was a good idea and just wanted to ask him for patches :p Then I put my black hat (played the devil's advocate if you prefer) and began to think about drawbacks and possibles

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Well, I think it is important to bundle all the jars required to build, run and test the system in the OFBiz package; and they have to be properly listed in LICENSE/NOTICE files. See in particular: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain Jacopo On Apr 12, 2012,

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Rajbir Saini
I agree with you Jacopo regarding bundling the jars in release. But source code is not release. Apache projects using Maven do not keep jars in the repository but they do bundle the jars in release. Thanks, Raj On Thursday 12 April 2012 07:38 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Well, I think it

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Erwan de FERRIERES
../.. My main questions are: what is the real advantage of doing this? How this would solve the problems I posted at the beginning of this thread (that has been ignored to discuss about tools)? ivy would rename the jars the way we want (eg package-version.jar), and using ivy, we would then

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I see what you mean but... source code releases are required by the ASF. Quoting http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html : All releases are in the form of the source materials needed to make changes to the software being released. In some cases, binary/bytecode packages are also produced as a

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Erwan, That was not clear to me. So then maybe we could discuss Pierre's proposition. But to have a real idea of the time added (not an estimate) if we use Ivy instead of having the libs in the repo, we need to have all done already... Jacques From: Erwan de FERRIERES

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Yes, I was only dicussing about trunk checkout. As proposed Raj a specific ant task could be used to prepare the releases. Anyway more a brainstorming than anything else at this stage Jacques From: Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Well, I think it is important to bundle all

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Apr 12, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Erwan de FERRIERES wrote: ivy would rename the jars the way we want (eg package-version.jar), and using ivy, we would then reduce the LICENSE file, as less jars would be released with OFBiz. From an extremist POV, we could only whip ant + ivy, and one of the

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-12 Thread Pierre Smits
First of all I believe that (packaged) releases are intended for non-developers (end users) and not for developers. That in mind, releases should have everything that is needed to run generic production systems. And nothing more, not test code, not demo data. When developers want to look at what

Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-11 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi all, the following are housekeeping tasks that could be part of the SlimDown roadmap we could do (help from the community would be highly appreciated) related to the big number of jar files bundled with OFBiz: * making sure all jar files are marked as binary * making sure they are listed

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-11 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Jacopo, How about using Apache Ivy more to manage dependencies. That way OFBiz should reduce in size dramatically and the modifications of the licence and notice file are trimmed down considerably. Regards, Pierre Op 11 april 2012 18:49 schreef Jacopo Cappellato

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-11 Thread Jacques Le Roux
The problem with this approach: it does not work if you don't have an Internet connection: blocking -1 Jacques From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com Hi Jacopo, How about using Apache Ivy more to manage dependencies. That way OFBiz should reduce in size dramatically and the modifications

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-11 Thread Pierre Smits
If you don't have an internet connection, you wouldn't be able to download OFBiz. Op 11 april 2012 22:44 schreef Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com het volgende: The problem with this approach: it does not work if you don't have an Internet connection: blocking -1 Jacques

Re: Housekeeping of jar files

2012-04-11 Thread Jacques Le Roux
There are situations where you are able to download and then deploy where you don't have a connection. If then things change it can turn in a nightmare Also there are situations where, etc... Think about it, not only your way... It's ok for secondary libs, and most often used for those we can't