Re: Development updates

2016-05-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
With the current instructions, it takes me a total of less than an hour to do the downloads, signature checks, build, and test the built software. On 5/13/2016 5:05 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: ... Hopefully I can get ONE more binding vote on the Groovy UNO Extension vote so I can finish up the exten

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-05-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I decided to try to fix the underlying error/warning, by making the header file declaration complete. Unfortunately, I think my C++ rustiness is getting in the way. I get an error suggesting a constructor is being treated as a function. I've attached a diff in the hope that someone else can fi

Re: [VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.5-RC1

2016-05-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 Approve On 4/23/2016 8:23 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: This is for a source release of Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.5 from Apache OpenOffice and binaries made available from Maven via Apache Nexus. Source packages for RC1 are available at: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/devtools/ an

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-04-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/25/2016 9:07 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: I checked out the latest, and tried to build it. My debug build also failed on sqliterator.cxx. I used exactly the same configure parameters as on previous successful debug builds. thanks for testing, hopefully i will find some time to do further i

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-04-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I checked out the latest, and tried to build it. My debug build also failed on sqliterator.cxx. I used exactly the same configure parameters as on previous successful debug builds. Patricia On 4/17/2016 12:34 PM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: Hi, this weekend i tried again and was able to build cur

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/21/2016 3:12 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/21/2016 02:09 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: The .class files in the uploaded .jar were compiled with Java 1.8: Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/Users/Patricia/.groovy/grapes/org.openoffice/guno-extension/jars $ !find find . -type f -name

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
n them. On 4/21/2016 10:47 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: After some more testing: It works with JDK1.8 or JRE1.8, 32-bit or 64-bit in each case. However, it fails with the following output using jdk1.7.0_79. Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/GroovyUNO/test $ !gr groovy *.g

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
After some more testing: It works with JDK1.8 or JRE1.8, 32-bit or 64-bit in each case. However, it fails with the following output using jdk1.7.0_79. Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/GroovyUNO/test $ !gr groovy *.groovy Apr 21, 2016 10:03:31 AM org.codehaus.groovy.runtime.m12

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Like all sane Java-using programs, Groovy seems to be perfectly happy with a 64-bit JDK. In the shell I have been using for my UNO-testing: Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/GroovyUNO/test $ echo $JAVA_HOME C:/Program Files/Java/jdk1.8.0_71 which is a 64-bit release 8 JDK. I'll

Re: [VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 Approve (binding) On 4/19/2016 7:35 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: This is for a source release of Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4 from Apache OpenOffice and binaries made available from Maven via Apache Nexus. Source packages for RC2 are available at: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/de

[DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4-RC2

2016-04-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I did a signature check on the files. The md5 checks both passed. The tar.gz.asc check also passed, but the .zip.asc check failed: Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/GroovyUNO/signatures $ gpg --verify guno-extension-0.1.4-r1740035-src.tar.gz.asc gpg: WARNING: using insecure memor

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4 - PLEASE VOTE

2016-04-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/19/2016 3:22 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/19/2016 4:20 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/18/2016 07:04 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: ... I have the most of what I wanted to add to the release testing page [1] done. If you would like to review and make any changes or additions feel free. :) I

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/19/2016 4:20 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/18/2016 07:04 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: ... I have the most of what I wanted to add to the release testing page [1] done. If you would like to review and make any changes or additions feel free. :) I have added a process I devised for verifying tha

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
eed a third PMC members to cast a binding +1 vote, but I'm hoping having step-by-step instructions will inspire someone. Patricia On 4/17/2016 4:27 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 10:01 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/15/2016 6:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 09:21 PM

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/17/2016 5:48 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/17/2016 4:27 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: I'll try to work with these instructions, and go on asking questions whenever I get stuck. I have saved all the e-mails in this thread, and in any case they are in the archive. I think we shoul

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/17/2016 4:27 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 10:01 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/15/2016 6:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 09:21 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... Do I need to run it in any particular directory? How does it find the .jar I built? It doesn't

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/15/2016 6:52 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 09:21 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... Do I need to run it in any particular directory? How does it find the .jar I built? It doesn't need to find the jar you built. There is one pre-built from the RC and staged in Apache

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/15/2016 5:05 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/15/2016 07:12 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/15/2016 3:40 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: ... Did you have a chance to try the HelloTextTableShape.groovy test script that I placed in Bugzilla [3]? ... Instructions for running it? What do I need to

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/15/2016 3:40 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: ... Did you have a chance to try the HelloTextTableShape.groovy test script that I placed in Bugzilla [3]? ... Instructions for running it? What do I need to set up? - To unsubscribe, e

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/15/2016 3:40 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 10:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/14/2016 6:29 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 08:10 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/14/2016 3:28 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/6/2016 3:27

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/14/2016 6:29 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 08:10 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/14/2016 3:28 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/6/2016 3:27 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/05/2016 09:57 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I think you will get

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/14/2016 3:28 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/14/2016 12:57 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 4/6/2016 3:27 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/05/2016 09:57 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I think you will get more votes with more instructions. I've never done a gradle build, and have no idea h

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/6/2016 3:27 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 04/05/2016 09:57 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I think you will get more votes with more instructions. I've never done a gradle build, and have no idea how to do one. I'm sure I could find out, but that is going to take time. ... If yo

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
For me, the delay has been the combination of some non-Apache projects and Apache River needing some attention (I'm the PMC Chair). I put away my Linux system to make more room for sewing for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I will need to use unfamiliar tools to do the Windows build. I'll

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-04-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/10/2016 5:28 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: Hi Patricia, thanks for your build settings. Did you manage to build aoo420 debug version? I am building off the current Trunk. Is that a00420? yesterday i started a new aoo412 debug build with my settings. after 5 hours the build finished wit

[DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4

2016-04-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I think you will get more votes with more instructions. I've never done a gradle build, and have no idea how to do one. I'm sure I could find out, but that is going to take time. On 4/5/2016 4:07 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: This is for a source release of Groovy UNO Extension 0.1.4 from Apache Op

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-04-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
For comparison, here is the debug version of my configure parameters: $ more run_configure.sh SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0" ./configure \ --enable-dbgutil \ --enable-symbols \ --disable-unit-tests \ --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \

Re: failed to build aoo420 dev on win32

2016-04-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
How are you specifying debug? Any differences between what you are doing and https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1? I have been doing Windows 8.1 debug builds without any problems. I manually 'make debug=true' the gmake componen

Re: [HELP NEEDED] old Solaris related build issues

2016-04-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/4/2016 2:59 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 04/04/2016 11:30 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: ... In any case, since we don't currently have "official" distros for Solaris -- I would be content changing all these issues to ENHANCEMENT rather than DEFECT. Thoughts? I think this wouldn't change the actual pr

Re: [HELP NEEDED] old Solaris related build issues

2016-04-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/4/2016 2:28 AM, Marcus wrote: ... It's simply a fact that we have no experts for Solaris and no testing hardware. ... Solaris runs on Intel PC hardware, so no need for special testing hardware. From the late 1980's to 2002, I was a system performance analyst and architect for servers that

Re: Exporting symbols from AOO shared libraries

2016-04-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
A difficult one. I don't like making things public just to support testing, because later on, when someone wants to make changes, it is impossible to tell whether they can or not. In a simpler project, I might suggest doing separate builds for testing, but I hesitate to add to the AOO build

Re: Regression tests?

2016-03-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
ns instead?). Also these Java qa tests seem new and some are unfinished - were they ported from somewhere (smoketest?)? Damjan On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:53 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I have a few simple changes I would like to check in. Before doing that, I would normally run regression tests agains

Regression tests?

2016-03-28 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have a few simple changes I would like to check in. Before doing that, I would normally run regression tests against my working copy. In any case, as one of the few people who are building on Windows, I should test early, test often. What tests do people normally run to check that changes do

Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans

2016-03-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/27/2016 3:53 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 03/27/2016 05:01 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/27/2016 12:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... When we have three PMC members willing to commit to voting (at due time) on the NetBeans plugin, this discussion will make sense. Otherwise we are wasting

Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans

2016-03-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/27/2016 12:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... When we have three PMC members willing to commit to voting (at due time) on the NetBeans plugin, this discussion will make sense. Otherwise we are wasting our time. I generally have at least one Windows box with Netbeans installed, so I should

Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans

2016-03-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/26/2016 2:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:38 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans On 20/03/2016 Patricia

Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans

2016-03-27 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/26/2016 10:37 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 20/03/2016 Patricia Shanahan wrote: The issue is whether it is ASF distributed software, for which ASF trademarks can appropriately be used. I think it is and should continue to be ASF distributed software. ... 3) We recognize that http

Re: [OT] ApacheCon

2016-03-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/22/2016 3:10 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 21/03/2016 Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/20/2016 10:02 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: I would have liked to attend but my TAC application wasn't successful. TAC was apparently faced with an unusually large number of high quality applications, and h

Re: Can we add the value "N/A" to the Target Milestone field

2016-03-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/22/2016 9:25 AM, Marcus wrote: ... OK, it seems you also like the idea to have another resolution status - it just depends on what the name is, right? ;-) ... How about RESOLVED - WENEEDPEOPLE for issues where we would like to do a fix or enhancement, and are only being prevented by lack

Re: Can we add the value "N/A" to the Target Milestone field

2016-03-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/21/2016 8:59 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I want to clarify this. I think the problem might be that "Resolved - Fixed" is being used incorrectly. As far as I know, there are many cases where this resolution is used where one of "Resolv

Re: [OT] ApacheCon

2016-03-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/20/2016 10:02 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 03/16/2016 08:23 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Are any of you planning to attend the North America ApacheCon? I have not yet decided whether to go. Patricia - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: Releasing the Apache OpenOffice API plugin for NetBeans

2016-03-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 also. The issue is whether it is ASF distributed software, for which ASF trademarks can appropriately be used. I think it is and should continue to be ASF distributed software. Releasing the source, on an ASF server, with a PMC release vote, is required for ASF distributed software. Derived a

[OT] ApacheCon

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Are any of you planning to attend the North America ApacheCon? I have not yet decided whether to go. Patricia - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.

Re: AOO Governance (was RE: Next release and gbuild)

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am really, really curious. How would you recommend the hypothetical AOO management hierarchy go about compelling me to do anything? On 3/17/2016 10:41 AM, donaldupre . wrote: Not only it is possible to compel, it is imperative for a viable project. As Stalin once said, "When there's a person,

Re: Debug on Windows

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/16/2016 4:37 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/16/2016 12:07 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/16/2016 11:24 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8

Re: AOO Governance (was RE: Next release and gbuild)

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
t some sort of "management" is needed? How someone here suggested making a release without a manger is beyond me... On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I am really, really curious. How would you recommend the hypothetical AOO management hierarchy go about compellin

Re: AOO Governance (was RE: Next release and gbuild)

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have offered, on the PMC mailing list, to learn to be a release manager if necessary or desirable. The more people we have who can do a role, the better the chances of someone being available when needed. However, I would have to function as keeper-of-the-checklist, and depend on everyone doi

Re: Debug on Windows

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/16/2016 12:07 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/16/2016 11:24 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/14/2016 10:49 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: Hi Patricia, Has anyone

Re: Debug on Windows

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/14/2016 10:49 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: Hi Patricia, Has anyone nailed getting e.g. windbg running with AOO on Windows? If so, I have some questions. better try with vs 2013 community edition 😉 I remember I had a lot of trouble with windbg. Thanks for the tip - it does work better th

Coding standards?

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Consider the case of an if-statement with a single statement in the "true" branch only. For example: if( someCondition ) return; Should it be formatted on one line, as above, or on two lines: if( someCondition ) return; or on four lines: if( someCondition ) { return; } I dislike the

Re: Debug on Windows

2016-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/16/2016 11:24 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/14/2016 10:49 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote: Hi Patricia, Has anyone nailed getting e.g. windbg running with AOO on Windows? If so, I have some questions. better try with vs 2013

Debug on Windows

2016-03-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Has anyone nailed getting e.g. windbg running with AOO on Windows? If so, I have some questions. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: Build without doing any tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
somehow: OSL_ASSERT failures in compile-time unit tests should not interact with the user. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: It looks as though the attached .pdf image did not get through. Here is the data from it: The error was in main/sal/osl/w32/process.cxx, line 340, null me

Re: Build without doing any tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
It looks as though the attached .pdf image did not get through. Here is the data from it: The error was in main/sal/osl/w32/process.cxx, line 340, null message. The assertion is "OSL_ASSERT(g_command_args.m_nCount > 0);" On 3/13/2016 10:44 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Hi D

Re: Build without doing any tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
t Corporation. All rights reserved. c:/OpenOfficeDev/Trunk/main/solver/420/wntmsci12/workdir/CxxObject/sw/qa/core/Test-BigPtrArray.o [ build CUT ] sw_bigpointerarray On 3/13/2016 10:01 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: It is highly unusual to get a dialog during build. Please send a screenshot next time.

Re: Build without doing any tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
. "./configure --help" is probably the best - I couldn't find anything better so far. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I also have no idea which tests - I just know I was greeted this morning by an incomplete build and the form of AOO dialog I only see fro

Re: Build without doing any tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
the .dbgsv.ini somewhere, and from then on start AOO with the environment variable DBGSV_INIT set to the path of that .dbgsv.ini you backed up. On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: I am currently building a debug version of AOO, including using --enable-dbgutil. I lost a f

Build without tests?

2016-03-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am currently building a debug version of AOO, including using --enable-dbgutil. I lost a few hours overnight because it did a test that triggered an assertion dialog, and waited for me to wake up and click "No" to continue. I would prefer to separate building and the tests that are normally

Re: apache testing volunteer

2016-03-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Would it make sense to get Rashida working on characterizing and classifying some of the Bugzilla issues, including constructing additional tests around the reported bugs? Should Rashida subscribe to the qa mailing list? Patricia On 3/11/2016 9:20 AM, rashida m wrote: hi I would like to jo

Re: UNO SDK?

2016-03-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks for the "side menu" tip. I was just not seeing it. On 3/6/2016 3:36 PM, JZA wrote: The UNO SDK is public from the Download page in AOO. http://openoffice.org/download/ Make sure to look into the side menu. On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: As

UNO SDK?

2016-03-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
As part of my ongoing attempt to understand AOO, I would like to try out and explore UNO. I found an Eclipse plug-in that looks potentially useful, but it needs me to tell it the location of my UNO SDK. Where is it, or can I download it? Thanks, Patricia -

Re: [VOTE] Release Java Bootstrap Connector via Maven

2016-03-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 On 2/12/2016 6:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: [.] +1 approve the release - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
In the short term, incremental and iterative can go well, but in the long term it only makes the bit rot worse. I have had bad experiences both ways, so neither course guarantees success. Thread synchronization is a particularly dangerous area for not having a known design, because it can lead to

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/4/2016 9:39 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Patricia, Based on Damjan's finding that profile files are read by the application and that some are created during setup, with others copied in from the setup, it is settled that the code is used in current distributions and is also available to ex

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/3/2016 5:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] ... I am curious about whether it started out with pthread_mutex uses and lost them along the way, or whether that difference between unx and w32 is primordial. [orcmid

Re: 100% of bvt QA tests now pass

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
+1 Test early, test often. On 3/4/2016 6:30 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Damjan; Running tests in the buildbots is always a good idea. Best regards, Pedro. ps. the FreeBSD buildbot appears to still be broken with the downloading issue.

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/4/2016 4:40 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 3/4/2016 12:54 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: ELF binaries (Linux, *BSD) fundamentally use one of the worst ideas of all time: symbols are process scoped (unlike on Windows and MacOS

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/4/2016 12:54 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: ELF binaries (Linux, *BSD) fundamentally use one of the worst ideas of all time: symbols are process scoped (unlike on Windows and MacOS where they're library scoped), meaning that symbols with the same name can clash even if in different libraries lo

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/3/2016 5:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 14:38 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve) I am seriously considering

Broken links in the Wiki

2016-03-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
In studying the OpenOffice architecture, from time-to-time I find a broken link. For example, https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Uno/Effort/Binary/Extend_Threading-Model contains: E.g. see [http://home.pacbell.net/ouster/thr

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/3/2016 5:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 14:38 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve) I am seriously considering starting

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am seriously considering starting a project to eliminate profile.c etc. and seeing what, if anything, breaks. Before I do that, I have a question about whether it could be accessed through any of OpenOffice's extension or plugin facilities? Even if it can, 14 years seems quite long enough fo

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
code is really obsolete, we should prune it from trunk and source releases. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 20:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the learning curve On 2/20/

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-03-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/1/2016 6:31 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Patricia; Good analysis, thank you! I think the operation is invalid. We can just comment out the code. FWIW, I looked at the SUN history to see if I could guess what the author pretended: https://bitbucket.org/mst/ooo340/annotate/8b564af029aa60259

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-02-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/29/2016 7:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; FWIW, I have looked at i126669 and Coverity confirms there is a bug there. CID 440168 (#1 of 1): Dereference after null check (FORWARD_NULL)9. var_deref_model: Passing null pointer "&pProfile->m_AccessLock" to function "pthread_mutex_unlock(pthr

Re: Profile.c bugs (was RE: Some thoughts on the learning curve)

2016-02-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
is -Original Message----- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 20:57 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the learning curve On 2/20/2016 8:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I sympathize with Pedro's observation. Meanwhile,

[DISCUSS] Documentation comments

2016-02-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Does the AOO source code have any documentation comments? If so, what package is used? If not, I would like to propose selecting a package. I am getting into reading some of the code, and would like to record my conclusions in place, in a form that can be extracted and turned into HTML or simi

Re: Some thoughts on the learning curve

2016-02-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/20/2016 8:39 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I sympathize with Pedro's observation. Meanwhile, although I am not an expert, I could stand to buddy up on the following profile-related situation: . Looks interesting. I am familiar with pthre

Some thoughts on the learning curve

2016-02-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
One of the biggest problems facing AOO is getting new developers up to speed. As I understand it, there is a small group of developers who do understand AOO, but do not have anywhere near enough time to do everything that needs doing. Meanwhile, you have newcomers with various levels of exper

Re: Food for Thought

2016-02-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/15/2016 1:15 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: The Apache OpenOffice project, and other Apache projects, are more like do-ocracies than any other form of project governance. The distinct karma for committers and also PMC members is fundamentally related to

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/14/2016 1:34 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 2/14/2016 1:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 2/5/2016 6:55 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Patricia, Patricia Shanahan schrieb: My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/14/2016 1:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 2/5/2016 6:55 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Patricia, Patricia Shanahan schrieb: My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The minor

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/5/2016 6:55 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Patricia, Patricia Shanahan schrieb: My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The minor problem is that https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have made changes to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step to record what I learned during this process. It would be helpful if someone with a Windows machine could attempt a build using the latest version of those instructions, to test them. --

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
g icuin.lib, and the Perl script should convert that dependency into the makefiles it creates. So far icu has been rebuilt 10 times with this patch (attached), succeeding every time, so please test it and see if it works for you as well. Damjan On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Patricia Shanahan wro

Where to start?

2016-02-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I expect to complete my "Building on Windows" project in the next day or so, by documenting the results in https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 That means it is time to pick another project. Any suggestions? Here is a brief resume: Education

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
epend on the i18n project containing icuin.lib, and the Perl script should convert that dependency into the makefiles it creates. So far icu has been rebuilt 10 times with this patch (attached), succeeding every time, so please test it and see if it works for you as well. Damjan On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks. Silly typo, when I've typed "build --all" dozens of times over the last couple of weeks. On 2/10/2016 2:22 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: I can reproduce that. The "--All" needs to be in lowercase, ie. "build --all". On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:20 PM

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have experienced a major step backwards. My build attempts all fail: == $ build --All build -- version: 275224 = Building module instsetoo_native = Entering /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/Trunk/main/insts

Re: AOO build system upgrades

2016-02-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/9/2016 2:11 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: ... == HELP, TOO MANY MAKEFILES == I started looking at what's been done so far. And, due to the fact that dmake also uses makefiles, what's the correct way to invoke GNU make for a build? It looks like the "main" makefile for what's been migrated so far is

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
$processes_hash{$pid}; start_child($child_nick, $folders_hashes{$child_nick}); }; On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: My next step is to try to get rid of the intermittent failure of the icu build. It seems to be the one thing standing between me a repeatable unattended build. If you

Re: [DISCUSS][POLICY?] Lost Features When Saving to ODF

2016-02-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/7/2016 11:51 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... 3. Note that on saving to .xls, the rubber-stamp warning about possible loss of features occurs, but in this case the feature is not lost. There is no such warning when the feature in its unsupported form is transformed and saved as an .ods fil

Re: A Complaint

2016-02-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
This does not seem like a very constructive response - I suggest reading Regina Henschel's message instead. Unlike much of Apache's software, OpenOffice is intended to be used by normal end users. I wish every computer user used backups and revision control, avoiding a lot of misery. It is rea

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
My next step is to try to get rid of the intermittent failure of the icu build. It seems to be the one thing standing between me a repeatable unattended build. If you know anything about its cause, please let me know. Here is a typical failure output: Generating Code... link.exe @C:\cy

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The linked page includes a reference for a Video on migrating a large C++ codebase, and a training course whose topics include creating multiple versions for multiple platforms. That all looks encouraging. On 2/6/2016 4:11 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: Hi Damjan, Have you looked at Gradle for C/C++

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/5/2016 6:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Patricia .. good point about IDE's. We have a dilemma here: On one side ~80% of our users are Windows-based so it would certainly be ideal to use an environment where we keep both our users and our developers in sync. Unfortunately the majority of ou

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I thought most windows developers were more IDE orientated than command line, so we should be considering selecting an IDE for Windows builds, and as many others as possible, and putting together the project files for it. Parallelism is far, far lower priority than reliable unattended buildin

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The minor problem is that https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 has incorrect paths using "OpenOffice" rather than "Apache_OpenOffice". The more serious pr

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/4/2016 4:10 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: -Original Message- From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 13:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Building on Windows On 2/4/2016 12:40 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Patricia, Patricia

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/4/2016 3:36 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:47 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 2/4/2016 12:40 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Patricia, Patricia Shanahan schrieb: I think maybe I need to clean up and start again. What is the best way to clean, short of doing a

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