Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 03/10/2017 Roberto Galoppini wrote:

2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher:

What do you have in /Users//Library/Application
Support/OpenOffice/4/user?

Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.


I see that you had 4.1.3 installed and it was working correctly. You 
renamed the user profile (to simulate a fresh installation) and 
installed 4.1.4.


How far do you get when you start OpenOffice? For example:
- Does the new profile folder get created or OpenOffice dies before 
creating it?
- Can you see, even for a fraction of a second, the OpenOffice splash 
screen?


Probably it would be best if you can start OpenOffice from a terminal 
(look for an executable called "soffice"). It should output something to 
the terminal before dying and that will probably give some clues to 
understand what the problem is due to and how common we can expect it to be.


As I wrote in the vote thread: it might be that this bug is not so 
common to be considered a blocker, but if it is not due to your 
particular configuration then we should mention it in the Release Notes 
once it is clarified/explained.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA

2017-10-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/09/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:

I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4
as GA!!


+1 (binding)

I did several tests, including:
- downloading and verifying the .bz2 sources (checksums, hashes)
- making sure these match with SVN: they don't but it is just a cosmetic 
difference, see https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127544 (not a 
blocker; it was worse in previous releases)

- configured (English+Italian) and built source on Linux-64
- verified that the build works (tested with Writer and Calc)
- verified LICENSE and NOTICE files

Additionally, I've used the 4.1.4-RC "convenience binaries" for several 
weeks (and recently switched to 4.1.4-RC4):

- I didn't notice regressions with respect to 4.1.3.
- I verified that the update connects to the expected internal URL on 
https://ooo-updates.apache.org/


I still recommend that we verify better the issue reported by Roberto: 
if we determine the cause and find a workaround then, depending on how 
common it is, we may add it to the release notes (assuming we conclude 
it is not a blocker). More in the dedicated thread.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Marcus

Am 03.10.2017 um 22:26 schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:


On 10/3/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

Now what:
1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
(GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us

to?

2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform

(*nix

users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which

is

liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?

Damjan


Tempest in a teapot. You do know that Oracle isn't the only provider
of Java or OpenJDK, right?

Options
1. You can buiild your own 32-bit x86 binary based on OpenJDK sources.
2. make AOO compile OK on 64 bit thus making AOO a 64-bit Windows app,
able to use any 64-bit JRE (Oracle JRE, IBM JRE, Azul's Zulu JRE)
3. Have you asked Azul Systems if they can provide a 32-bit build?
4. Compile the Java code in AOO as native with Java 9's AOT compiler?
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/295

Just my $0.02
FC



​As a bystander, I'm wondering just how alarming this news is to Apache
OpenOffice.


IMHO not at all. Java 9 was published just 2 weeks ago. So, it will take 
some time until it's the favorite one. Until then 8 is developer's darling.



The builds are using Java 6 or 7, right?​


With the next larger release (probably 4.2.0) we will use Java 8 which 
should last a longer time. Time enough to decide what to do with the 
dependency of Java 32-bit.



  I'm still on 32-bit Linux for now but my default OpenJDK is 1.8. I can run
AOO fine with it but must use 1.7 for building.


Marcus

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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
(GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?

To answer my own question, we can't ship OpenJDK - according to
http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional "Apache projects cannot
distribute any such components within their releases".


Well, "we can't" is always simplistic when coming to Apache rules. If 
something can't be distributed WITHIN a release (a source release) it 
may still be possible to bundle it with the the binary releases, much 
like what we do with dictionaries. Of course this needs discussion and 
validation (and a lot of patience) but the process can be started if we 
see value in it as a temporary fix.


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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On 10/3/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> > Now what:
> > 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
> > (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us
> to?
> > 2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform
> (*nix
> > users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
> > available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
> > 3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
> > 4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which
> is
> > liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?
> >
> > Damjan
>
> Tempest in a teapot. You do know that Oracle isn't the only provider
> of Java or OpenJDK, right?
>
> Options
> 1. You can buiild your own 32-bit x86 binary based on OpenJDK sources.
> 2. make AOO compile OK on 64 bit thus making AOO a 64-bit Windows app,
> able to use any 64-bit JRE (Oracle JRE, IBM JRE, Azul's Zulu JRE)
> 3. Have you asked Azul Systems if they can provide a 32-bit build?
> 4. Compile the Java code in AOO as native with Java 9's AOT compiler?
> http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/295
>
> Just my $0.02
> FC
>
>
​As a bystander, I'm wondering just how alarming this news is to Apache
OpenOffice.

The builds are using Java 6 or 7, right?​

 I'm still on 32-bit Linux for now but my default OpenJDK is 1.8. I can run
AOO fine with it but must use 1.7 for building.


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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Roberto,

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Roberto Galoppini  
> wrote:
> 
> 2017-10-03 21:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> On System Preferences / Security & Preferences what is your Allow apps
>> downloaded set to? It should be App Store and identified developers.
>> 
> 
> Correct.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> If you go into Terminal what are your permissions on /Users/> user>/Library/Application Support/.?
>> 
> 
> drwxr-xr-x

I have the following permissions:

drwxr-xr-x   3 davewave  staff   102 Oct  3 12:45 OpenOffice
drwx--+ 32 davewave  staff  1088 Oct  3 12:45 .
Daves-MacBook-Pro:Application Support davewave$

Not sure what’s up.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)
>> 
>> I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a
>> prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user
>> name registration.
>> 
>> What do you have in/Users/davewave/Library/Application
>> Support/OpenOffice/4/user/4/user?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.
>> 
>> Roberto
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
>> that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>> 
>> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
>> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
>> upload, download, install chain.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>> Double-clicking.
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>> 
>> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
>> 
>> Alt-click Open?
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
>> 
>> 
>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>> 
>> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>> 
>> before it crashes?
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to test
>> 
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>> 
>> couldn't, it
>> 
>> 
>> keeps crashing.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Roberto
>> 
>> 
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Would it be useful to try to download and install 4.1.3, using the same 
process? If that also fails, it has to be a configuration problem. If it 
succeeds, there is something different about the 4.1.4 file in question.



On 10/3/2017 12:25 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

2017-10-03 21:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :


Hi -

On System Preferences / Security & Preferences what is your Allow apps
downloaded set to? It should be App Store and identified developers.



Correct.





If you go into Terminal what are your permissions on /Users//Library/Application Support/.?



drwxr-xr-x




Regards,
Dave

On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :

Hi -

I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)

I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a
prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user
name registration.

What do you have in/Users/davewave/Library/Application
Support/OpenOffice/4/user/4/user?



Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.

Roberto


Regards,
Dave

On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini :

Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
upload, download, install chain.


On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

Double-clicking.

2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :

How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?

Alt-click Open?

On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <


roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:


It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,

before it crashes?


On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I was trying to test

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I

couldn't, it


keeps crashing.


Best,

Roberto


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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2017-10-03 21:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :

> Hi -
>
> On System Preferences / Security & Preferences what is your Allow apps
> downloaded set to? It should be App Store and identified developers.
>

Correct.



>
> If you go into Terminal what are your permissions on /Users/ user>/Library/Application Support/.?
>

drwxr-xr-x


>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
>
> Hi -
>
> I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)
>
> I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a
> prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user
> name registration.
>
> What do you have in/Users/davewave/Library/Application
> Support/OpenOffice/4/user/4/user?
>
>
>
> Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.
>
> Roberto
>
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini  >
> wrote:
>
> I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
> that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?
>
> 2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>
> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
> upload, download, install chain.
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
> Double-clicking.
>
> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>
> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
>
> Alt-click Open?
>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
>
>
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
>
> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>
> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>
> before it crashes?
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
> I was trying to test
>
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>
> couldn't, it
>
>
> keeps crashing.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2017-10-03, 9:20 AM Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Meanwhile, it would be useful if everyone with a Mac would download and test 
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg. Is it that one machine? All Macs 
running that OS version? All Macs? 


I have been using Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-GB.dmg. I've only used Writer 
and had no problems.


Just downloaded and installed 
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg.
No problem installing it. Brief test using Writer was okay.



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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

On System Preferences / Security & Preferences what is your Allow apps 
downloaded set to? It should be App Store and identified developers.

If you go into Terminal what are your permissions on /Users//Library/Application Support/.?

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Roberto Galoppini  
> wrote:
> 
> 2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)
>> 
>> I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a
>> prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user
>> name registration.
>> 
>> What do you have in/Users/davewave/Library/Application 
>> Support/OpenOffice/4/user/4/user?
>> 
> 
> Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.
> 
> Roberto
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
>> that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>> 
>> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
>> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
>> upload, download, install chain.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>> Double-clicking.
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>> 
>> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
>> 
>> Alt-click Open?
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
>> 
>> 
>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
>> 
>> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>> 
>> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>> 
>> before it crashes?
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to test
>> 
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>> 
>> couldn't, it
>> 
>> 
>> keeps crashing.
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Roberto
>> 
>> 
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :

> Hi -
>
> I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)
>
> I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a
> prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user
> name registration.
>
> What do you have in /Users//Library/Application
> Support/OpenOffice/4/user?
>

Nothing, I've simulated a fresh new start.

Roberto


> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
> wrote:
>
> I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
> that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?
>
> 2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>
> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
> upload, download, install chain.
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
> Double-clicking.
>
> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>
> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
>
> Alt-click Open?
>
> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
>
>
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
>
> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
>
> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>
> before it crashes?
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
> I was trying to test
>
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>
> couldn't, it
>
>
> keeps crashing.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Roberto
>
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi -

I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29)

I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a prior 
setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user name 
registration.

What do you have in /Users//Library/Application 
Support/OpenOffice/4/user?

Regards,
Dave

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini  
> wrote:
> 
> I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
> that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?
> 
> 2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
> 
>> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
>> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
>> upload, download, install chain.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>>> Double-clicking.
>>> 
>>> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>>> 
>>> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
 Alt-click Open?
 
 On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> 
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> 
> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
> 
> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
> 
> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>> before it crashes?
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>> I was trying to test
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>>> 
>> couldn't, it
 
> keeps crashing.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Roberto
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread mabdul
Hi *,

On 03.10.2017 17:34, Marcus wrote:
> Am 03.10.2017 um 17:20 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>> I am sure anyone else having similar problems would have reported
>> them. I don't have a Mac, so I can't do any tests myself.
just downloaded the German version, works without any problems with
macOS Sierra (10.12.6) on my MacBook Pro (mid 204)


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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Marcus

Am 03.10.2017 um 17:20 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
I am sure anyone else having similar problems would have reported them. 
I don't have a Mac, so I can't do any tests myself.


Could you sumcheck or check keys? That would tell if there were 
corruption during the upload.


I've done a quick check with the Mac install files from [1] for en-US, 
en-GB and de and its SHA256 hash. All fine.


Also, maybe download a different language, such as en-GB instead of 
en-US, to see if it is that one file or all builds.


Meanwhile, it would be useful if everyone with a Mac would download and 
test Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg. Is it that 
one machine? All Macs running that OS version? All Macs?


Unfortunatelly, I've also no Mac available for testing.

@Jim:
Are you able to do a quick check with the install files on [1]?

[1] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC4/

Thanks in advance.

Marcus




On 10/3/2017 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?

2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :


Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the 
build,

upload, download, install chain.


On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:


Double-clicking.

2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :

How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?

Alt-click Open?

On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <



roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:



It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,

before it crashes?


On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I was trying to test

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I


couldn't, it



keeps crashing.


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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread FR web forum
>I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
>that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?

A french volunteer does not reproduce this.
AOO 4.1.4 and MacBook Pro SSD OS X 10.12.6 Sierra / RAM 8Go / Java 1.8.0_144
He tried with french and US version

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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am sure anyone else having similar problems would have reported them. 
I don't have a Mac, so I can't do any tests myself.


Could you sumcheck or check keys? That would tell if there were 
corruption during the upload.


Also, maybe download a different language, such as en-GB instead of 
en-US, to see if it is that one file or all builds.


Meanwhile, it would be useful if everyone with a Mac would download and 
test Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg. Is it that 
one machine? All Macs running that OS version? All Macs?




On 10/3/2017 6:25 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?

2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :


Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
upload, download, install chain.


On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:


Double-clicking.

2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :

How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?

Alt-click Open?

On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <



roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:



It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,

before it crashes?


On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I was trying to test

Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I


couldn't, it



keeps crashing.


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Roberto


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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
On 10/3/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> Now what:
> 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
> (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?
> 2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform (*nix
> users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
> available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
> 3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
> 4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which is
> liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?
>
> Damjan

Tempest in a teapot. You do know that Oracle isn't the only provider
of Java or OpenJDK, right?

Options
1. You can buiild your own 32-bit x86 binary based on OpenJDK sources.
2. make AOO compile OK on 64 bit thus making AOO a 64-bit Windows app,
able to use any 64-bit JRE (Oracle JRE, IBM JRE, Azul's Zulu JRE)
3. Have you asked Azul Systems if they can provide a 32-bit build?
4. Compile the Java code in AOO as native with Java 9's AOT compiler?
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/295

Just my $0.02
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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 03.10.2017 um 15:59 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 03.10.2017 um 14:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689
>
> thanks for your finding. I think we have a new topic on our todo list.

However, the 32-bit version is still available through other sites.
Oracle offered them for download but pulled them shortly after the release.

Maybe if the shitstorm is big enough Oracle will think about it, but I
would not make a bet on it.

Matthias

>
> Marcus
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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Now what:
> 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
> (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?
>

To answer my own question, we can't ship OpenJDK - according to
http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional "Apache projects cannot
distribute any such components within their releases".

We could however download and install an OpenJDK binary distribution at
run-time, as needed and after user confirmation, from something like
https://github.com/ojdkbuild/ojdkbuild, for these cases where Oracle's JDK
is unsupported.


Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Marcus

Am 03.10.2017 um 15:18 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Now what:
1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
(GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?


of course this can be an option. But IMHO it's just a life extension. 
Somewhen in the future we need to decide which direction to go.



2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform (*nix
users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.


The long term option to go. As the relevance and usage of Windows 32-bit 
versions is also decreasing it's time to change to 64-bit.



4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which is
liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?


Also possible. Microsoft has modified this, so that it can now also work 
on Linux and macOS. However, we need to know that .NET is really the 
same on all 3 platforms. I don't think we want to deal with differences 
between them that have to be incorporated into OpenOffice' code. This 
sounds like if it's too painful.


I would prefer for option 3.

Marcus




On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


Hello all,

It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:

https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689

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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Option 1, 3, 4 could work. (I would prefer 1  for short term and 3 for
long term)
Option 2 is nonsense.

Either way, I just wanted to inform the list about the fact...

Matthias


Am 03.10.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> Go for which option?
> Or do you mean option 4 with the "Go" language?
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
>
>> Go for it! ;-)
>>
>>
>> Am 03.10.2017 um 15:18 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
>>> Now what:
>>> 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
>>> (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us
>> to?
>>> 2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform
>> (*nix
>>> users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
>>> available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
>>> 3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
>>> 4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which
>> is
>>> liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?
>>>
>>> Damjan
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel <
>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:

 https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689

 Matthias



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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Go for which option?
Or do you mean option 4 with the "Go" language?

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Go for it! ;-)
>
>
> Am 03.10.2017 um 15:18 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> > Now what:
> > 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
> > (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us
> to?
> > 2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform
> (*nix
> > users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
> > available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
> > 3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
> > 4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which
> is
> > liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?
> >
> > Damjan
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:
> >>
> >> https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>


Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
I've re-downloaded again, it does not work. Does anyone else have tried
that? I'm really the only one facing problem with this build?

2017-10-03 15:04 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

> Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is
> sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the build,
> upload, download, install chain.
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
>> Double-clicking.
>>
>> 2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :
>>
>> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
>>> Alt-click Open?
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <

>>> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

 It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

 Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
> before it crashes?
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
> I was trying to test
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
>>
> couldn't, it
>>>
 keeps crashing.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Roberto
>>
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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Go for it! ;-)


Am 03.10.2017 um 15:18 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> Now what:
> 1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
> (GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?
> 2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform (*nix
> users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
> available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
> 3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
> 4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which is
> liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?
>
> Damjan
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>>




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Re: Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Now what:
1. Ship our own builds of OpenJDK, in matching bitness. Do the licences
(GPL for JVM, GPL-with-classpath-exception for class library) allow us to?
2. Drop Windows as a platform, since it's the only affected platform (*nix
users usually install distro OpenJDK packages so 32 bit OpenJDK will be
available for 32 bit AOO). We have no Win64 AOO.
3. Drop 32 bit versions of AOO and add Win64 support.
4. Or drop Java entirely and port our Java code to eg. .NET core, which is
liberally licensed and private copies of it can be shipped?

Damjan

On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Matthias Seidel 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:
>
> https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689
>
> Matthias
>
>
>


Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Did you happen to check keys or do a sumcheck on the download? This is 
sounding like it could be a file that was corrupted somewhere in the 
build, upload, download, install chain.


On 10/3/2017 5:13 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

Double-clicking.

2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :


How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
Alt-click Open?


On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <

roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:


It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :


Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
before it crashes?


On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:


I was trying to test
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I

couldn't, it

keeps crashing.

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Java 9 32-bit

2017-10-03 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hello all,

It seems that Oracle pulled the 32-bit version of Java 9:

https://twitter.com/mreinhold/status/912311207935090689

Matthias




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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Double-clicking.

2017-10-03 13:42 GMT+02:00 Jim Jagielski :

> How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
> Alt-click Open?
>
> > On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
> >
> > 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
> >
> >> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
> >> before it crashes?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was trying to test
> >>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I
> couldn't, it
> >>> keeps crashing.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Roberto
> >>>
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
How do you open it? Dbl-click the Icon? Select it and choose Open?
Alt-click Open?

> On Oct 3, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Roberto Galoppini  
> wrote:
> 
> It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.
> 
> 2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :
> 
>> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
>> before it crashes?
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>> 
>>> I was trying to test
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
>>> keeps crashing.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Roberto
>>> 
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
It never launched, actually. It crashes before anything else.

2017-10-03 11:24 GMT+02:00 Patricia Shanahan :

> Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document,
> before it crashes?
>
>
> On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>
>> I was trying to test
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
>> keeps crashing.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Roberto
>>
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Do you do anything in particular, such as open some type of document, 
before it crashes?


On 10/3/2017 12:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:

I was trying to test
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
keeps crashing.

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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
macOS version 10.12 (16A323)
Yes, I did reset that.

2017-10-03 10:12 GMT+02:00 FR web forum :

> Could you provide more details about your OS version?
> Did you reset your user profile before installation?
>
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Roberto Galoppini" 
> À: "dev" 
> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Octobre 2017 09:28:35
> Objet: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac
>
> I was trying to test
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
> keeps crashing.
>
> Best,
>
> Roberto
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Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

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Could you provide more details about your OS version?
Did you reset your user profile before installation?


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À: "dev" 
Envoyé: Mardi 3 Octobre 2017 09:28:35
Objet: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

I was trying to test
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
keeps crashing.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
I can't vote until I get a better understanding of why it keeps crashing on
my Mac.

Roberto

2017-10-02 19:23 GMT+02:00 Don Lewis :

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> I built a FreeBSD package from the source tarball and installed it on
> my daily desktop.  No obvious regressions, and documents that have links
> to external ole objects pop up the dialog box when opened.
>
> On 30 Sep, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4
> > as GA!!
> >
> > You can find these gems at:
> >
> >   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC4/
> >
> > The vote will last at least the normal 72 hours.
> >
> > Cheers!
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Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

2017-10-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
I was trying to test
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US.dmg but I couldn't, it
keeps crashing.

Best,

Roberto