Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:18:11 +0100 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. There is surely someone on this list who can hack together a few lines of Visual Basic (or whatever; even a .BAT file would work) and build a profile renaming tool we can point people to. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? It's hard to reproduce since it depends on customizations. But I believe it will be fixed automatically in 4.0 since new major releases should start with a clean profile (they use a different folder name anyway, and I don't believe users will be upset if we don't migrate their 3.x customizations to 4.0). Regards, Andrea. I think professional writers and power users of OpenOffice will certainly wish that their customisations are preserved so that they may be transferred to AOO 4.0, even if this is not done automatically. A separate transfer utility would be a good idea. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Apache OO program crashes
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:33:52 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote: then I should notify all of you to see if someone else has the problem and possibly a solution. His tip did not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes... Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official OpenOffice forum. http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it? Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy. It requires more OS knowledge than the typical user has, especially on Windows where folders like this are hidden by default. Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening? Is there anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0? We might not be able to migrate every extension, but at least make it so that if something cannot be converted we write out some diagnostic info in a text file. And if something doesn't convert, we skip it entirely? IMHO, it is better to require a reinstall of an extension than to create an unstable profile. -Rob This has NOT been an issue with Linux (in my experience), even though Hagar's response on the forums gives instructions for how to deal with it: http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426 Do we know what OSes are most affected? I have never seen the issue either, on Windows or Linux. But I may be just missing the combination needed. What is frustrating is that we don't know the cause. Is it a problem with a single popular extension? A problem with a single setting, or many settings? All settings of a specific data type? A robustness issue dealing with bad data? A new bug? An old bug? Studies have shown that most people don't report problems. If something doesn't work they'll just stop using it. But they'll tell their friends. So for every person who has reported this issue, we should consider that there are many more how are just suffering in silence, or have already given up. On the other hand, if this just goes away in AOO 4.0 then a well-publicized , easy to use profile clean-up tool might be the only thing we can do for current users. -Rob Rather than a separate profile clean-up tool perhaps a better approach would be to incorporate the functionality for this within AOO, accessible only by command line. # A separate tool is OS dependant, which means we have to have a number of them (each with detailed instructions); incorporated into OpenOffice at a command line level it knows the target OS so we don't need individual separate OS dependant applications. Being driven from command line prevents inadvertent application of such a potentially dangerous utility, and at command line level it ought be simple(ish) to cause OpenOffice to reboot into graphics mode and thereby generate a new default User Profile. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:35:56 +0100 Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi Regina, On 21.11.2012 15:32, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Jürgen, ---snip--- We are planning some bigger UI changes for the next release (sidebar) and such UI changes are always a good indicator for a new major release to signal our users bigger changers. I know Ariel has also some incompatible changes regarding add-ons in the pipeline that would also fit in a major release. Not to forget the internal changes in Draw. ---snip--- If nobody will complain I will start to merge the started 3.5 and 4.0 planning into one combined planning later. The changes are so large, that they need a lot of testing. The printing dialog has been the last large UI change and that has last over a year. Even when I only take the test time, which is reflected in Bugzilla, I see eight months CWS printerpullpages. The internal changes in Draw are not visible, but because they effect the whole office, they need a lot of testing too. These will need some more time (1/2 a year I guess roughly), so these will not be in a next release in Feb/march 2013. They indeed need deep testing, anything else would be too dangerous. Thus, these changeas are independent from the name for the next release. ---snip-- If there is a major User Interface change in AOO 4.0, whether this is User selectable (best option in my view) or installed without offering any option to revert to the traditional interface, it will need much more testing and perhaps even more rigorous testing than for a normal 0.1 release. Any instability in it will severely prejudice Users' confidence in AOO 4.0. I prefer therefore an interim 3.4.2 or 3.5 release, adding extra languages and some new functionality, such as the zapper for corrupt User Profiles, targetted for release early in 2013 to maintain a semblance of a six monthly release cycle. Of course I will accept the group decision, but the above is my thinking based on knowledge of relatively inexperienced posters on the en-Forum. Other Forum Volunteers and Moderators subscribed to this list may have other ideas. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 08:53:38 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 11/21/12 5:33 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Jürgen, Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: Hi, first of all I would like to volunteer again as release manager for our next release if it's ok for our community. +1 +1 on that from me also Second I would like to define with you what our next release will be. After various discussion and activities on the mailing list and also at the ApacheCon, I got the impression that the majority would support a 4.0 version as our next release. I'm not in favor of an version 4.0 as next release. The changes have listed below would justify a version 4.0. But I doubt, that they are possible in a time frame, I see for the next release. I am with Regina on this one. I do not see a Jan or Feb time frame as feasible for the design and implementation of a new and still a comfortable bit of padding to deal with the inevitable gremlins that will sneak out of the woodwork to assure the kind of quality release that is expected of OpenOffice and that we expect of ourselves. Uh, Juergen never suggested January or Feburary as a time frame for 4.0. So I don't see how one can dismiss a 4.0 proposal as being unfeasible based on dates that he never suggested. Maybe we should ask Juergen what timeframe he had in mind for 4.0? Of course, it might be possible to do both, provided we have volunteers willing to own testing and release management for 3.5. -Rob As I re-read the post you are correct Rob and I apologize to Juergen for reading to much between the lines. What timeframe were you considering for a 4.0 release Juergan? Well I had indeed not February in mind but when we targeting on end of March or April we will have more time. Maybe we can take first a look on what others have in mind to put in the next release. Juergen This sounds like a good idea. My concern is that we have enough time to adequately the changes, especially the potential UI changes, and that we address the end of life issues with the 3.x.x line. We do not want to spring possibly major UI changes on end users without adequate warning. Is there something users need to do to prepare for UI changes ? ;-) IMHO, if the changes are a bad idea we should never do them. But if the changes are a good idea then let's get them done, tested and released without delay. Yes, it will be a surprise for many end users. As far as I can tell most users still don't know we've moved to Apache either. -Rob Regards Keith My preference would be that the User should be able to switch between the traditional interface and the new interface (whatever it mmight be) by setting some form of switch. I have no need or desire to learn a new interface just for the sake of having something trendy; I'm used to what is there and know my way around it. On the other hand, I understand that there is a stratum of Users who must have bells and whistles and skins and all sorts of horrible frills and colours. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:00:54 +0100 jan iversen j...@apache.org wrote: Good idea, that was basically what I meant...however even microsoft, does provide a slim setup, that then downloads the needed packages. There is a disadvantage to that: such an installation has to have on-line access at install time. There are still many users who do not have on-line access 24/7 at broadband speeds; they may rely for installation on a download on a public library machine or a friend's machine and transfer the file to the target computer by USB key, so a complete package (whether compiled for natice language or as outlined above) would be useful to them, jan On 23 November 2012 16:58, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:00:38 +0100 jan iversen j...@apache.org wrote: Following your thought... Would it not be an idea, if we defined the binary to be en-US always, and then modify the installation scripts to include the proper language pack ?? Please see it as an open question, I do not know if there are other implications. I have for some time (years) downloaded the en-US binary and added the language pack, so technically it is possible. Jan. On 23 November 2012 15:47, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:30 AM, jan iversen j...@apache.org wrote: If it is easier, we could keep the binary, and just release language packsa bit more uncomfortable but still an official release ! I'm just thinking ahead, to the very real possibility that we're adding new languages on a continual basis until we're shipping 100+ of them. If that happens we're going to create absolute chaos if we encoding version changes in a way that appears externally to scripts, extensions, in documents, to upgrade servers, etc. It will lead to a proliferation of version strings that will destroy us all. This is what the Mayans were warning us about !!! (OK, maybe not that bad, but it would be quite a mess) But if we can consider these new languages to be merely the continuation of the 3.4.1 release, and an keep the external behavior of the program the same, then live is easy. We can release full versions of Danish, etc., 3.4.1. All we need to do is vote on a new source tarball which could be called AOO341-danish-patch.tgz or whatever. -Rob Jan. On 23 November 2012 15:01, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, we all know that the number of volunteers helping with translation is growing and we would like to make new languages as soon as possible available. This is important for two reason, first to make AOO available in further languages to reach more users. Second to show our volunteers that their work is appreciated and become integrated as soon as possible. We don't have a well defined process for doing it at moment but we will find a working way that will be ok for all of us. And we can improve it over time when see demand for changes or improvements, means we don't have to find a 100% perfect solution from the beginning. The most important part is how we do the naming of the different parts of such a release. I see two different scenarios: 1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the office with the new languages and release the new languages as convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and add the revision number in the name to identify a respin of the orginal 3.4.1. For example: aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2 This new src release becomes the default for 3.4.1 because it is a respin only (no functional changes) The revision number is part of the about dialog as well and it is possible to identify the respin. If we change the about dialog does this change anything else? For example, does it change what is written into ODF documents for the creator string? Does it cause AOO to report a different version to scripts? If we change anything more than the UI strings we risk breaking 3rd party scripts who have logic tied to 3.4.0 or 3.4.1. -Rob 2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle. The src release will contain the revision number in future always. Concrete proposal for 3.4.1 and new languages: 1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012 2. integrate the new languages
Re: spam attack
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:32 + Cairns watchho...@btinternet.com wrote: Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns The stability of OpenOffice is a matter of interaction with your operating system. You need to tell us what your operating system is and what symptoms you are experiencing. You may also find it of use to search the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ I doubt that any such instability is caused by a spam attack; the current spam attack is to the mwiki pages. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: spam attack
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:32 + Cairns watchho...@btinternet.com wrote: Having been bedevilled by OpenOffice 3.4.1 System crashes to the extent of wanting to ditch the whole programme I now understand the programme is under spam attack and you ask users to contact you for a solution. That would be most welcome. Regards, Gordon Cairns The stability of OpenOffice is a matter of interaction with your operating system. You need to tell us what your operating system is and what symptoms you are experiencing. You may also find it of use to search the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ I doubt that any such instability is caused by a spam attack; the current spam attack is to the mwiki pages. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: A small problem?
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 13:28:01 +0100 David Holst david.ho...@private.dk wrote: Is it possible, without having access to my computer to advise me about the following issue: After several years of use, I suddenly cannot access my Open Office program. I then without success have tried to uninstall the program with the aim of reinstalling it again, but get the message (in danish) Close OpenOffice org 3.3 and OpenOffice org. 3.3 start before you continue. If you have a multi-user system, ensure that other users do not have the program OpenOffice 3.3 running. Best regards David Holst Bregnevej 40 3500 Værløse DENMARK Phone: +45 4481571 Type Ctrl Shift Esc to open TaskManager and kill any soffice processes running on its Processes tab. Ignore any messages about horrible things happening - they have already, as your OpenOffice has stopped working! Now try starting OpenOffice again. Such processes can be left running after a program or system crash, or sometimes by too speedy a computer shutdown. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Installation of Open Office/Re-installation
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:38:22 -0500 Ron Napier ronnapier...@gmail.com wrote: After several attempts to install I discovered news about the spam attack. So sorry! I would like to re-install. Uninstalled because it would not open. Please advise. Normally, OpenOffice not opening on a computer on which it did open earlier indicates that there has been a program or system crash, or perhaps too speedy a close down of the computer (not enough time for write buffers to flush); the normal cure is to start TaskManager, then to kill any soffice processes shown running on TaskManager's Processes tab. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Trobles using Forum and Wiki
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:14:22 +0100 Daniel Paviotti danpav2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm writing to tell you about my troubles to connect to sites in object, I get the connection time out and I'm not able to use that sites. Probably the server is down. Tank for your attention, Daniel I have had no problems in logging on to the Forum sites; I log on regularly many times per day. For your information, the mWiki site is under spam attack and access to add new information is currently restricted, although this should not hinder read access. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Trobles using Forum and Wiki
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:14:22 +0100 Daniel Paviotti danpav2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm writing to tell you about my troubles to connect to sites in object, I get the connection time out and I'm not able to use that sites. Probably the server is down. Tank for your attention, Daniel Try running a traceroute to see where the path breaks. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Trobles using Forum and Wiki
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:21:43 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:14:22 +0100 Daniel Paviotti danpav2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm writing to tell you about my troubles to connect to sites in object, I get the connection time out and I'm not able to use that sites. Probably the server is down. Tank for your attention, Daniel I have had no problems in logging on to the Forum sites; I log on regularly many times per day. For your information, the mWiki site is under spam attack and access to add new information is currently restricted, although this should not hinder read access. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie I should emphasise that my Forum connection which gives no trouble is to the Apache Forum. Over the past few weeks (perhaps 4 or 5) connections to the older forum have been very intermittent for everybody. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Please Help!
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:17:50 +0530 Wajid Baig wab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need a small program to just read and write MS Docx and also for XLSx. I need it very urgently/badly. Please help me. Thanks in Advance. Free MS Word Viewer available for download from Microsoft. Possibly also Excel viewer? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: FLV is like a virus (MALWARE)
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:38:58 -0600 Ken Yackle kenyac...@gmail.com wrote: HI I have been using open office for years as a student and as a small business owner. When 3.3 notified me that an update was available, I had no problem trusting that it would be an improvement. on the download I de selected the FLV home page and tool bar options. The FLV interfered with the down load, and forced the tool bar download and install. The FLV tool bar basically is a buggy piece of crap that prevented me from using my browser at all. The page was locked and every mouse click produced a error ping , control on the page was not possible. I had to use the task manager to force the browser to close and use the control panel to un install FLV. The uninstall blurted out error messages about the uninstall. FLV may not be a virus, but it it definitely Malware! FIX this poor update If you download from the recommended official site, www.openoffice.org/download/ you get no add-ons of any sort. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Equivalence in iBook Author
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:39:25 +0100 Sylvain DENIS sylvain.tech...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I make stands and often I made small requests. The last appeared after the release of a software in Apple. In education, many teachers use the software iBooks Author. He realizes ePub with additional features (such as interactions). Is it possible to make the same kind with AOO? There is the plugin Writer2epub but it is far from complete. This is a strong demand in Belgium and France. Thank you for your response -- librement, *Sylvain DENIS* from Belgium /Expert TIC, FLOSS WEB Conseiller en sécurité de l'information Formateur, conférencier/ Look at Calibre at http://calibre-ebook.com/ It runs on many common platforms. In addition to being a complete eBook library manager, it also reads .odt files and converts them to various eBook formats. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Endnote/Index in Writer
On the en-Forum it has just been pointed out to me that Endnotes place themselves at the End of a document; this prevents an alphabetical Index being placed there, which is the usual location for it. Perhaps this should be considered for alteration in a forthcoming revision of Writer. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Endnote/Index in Writer
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:00:46 -0500 TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 12/30/2012 07:11, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On the en-Forum it has just been pointed out to me that Endnotes place themselves at the End of a document; this prevents an alphabetical Index being placed there, which is the usual location for it. Perhaps this should be considered for alteration in a forthcoming revision of Writer. Hi, Rory, Would a fake master doc (only one sub-document) be a quick way around this problem? The endnotes should stay with the chapter, and the index, specified in the master, should come last. (I don't use these features, so I can't say for sure.) My documents are simple book text with no internal funnies or illustrations, so I've never used Master Documents. Having seen (on Forum) many reports of trouble with Master Documents, I'd hesitate to advise someone with a nearly finished text to transfer to a Master Document structure - it could turn to a can of worms! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: What does supported mean for us?
On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 18:06:38 +0100 janI j...@apache.org wrote: +1 to your definition of supported, it is funny I just had somewhat the same discussion today. Regarding lifecycle, I would like to suggest that we only support the latest release, otherwise we stretch our resources pretty thin. We can of course have a statement that we in general will have a look at critical bugs, but they will only be solved in the latest release. rgds Jan I. On 1 January 2013 17:59, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: When a commercial software vendor says a configuration is supported it means something, typically that to the extent the software license includes an entitlement to support, that the vendor will provide that service for that configuration. So saying something is supported is essentially an obligation. With a volunteer-run, open source project, supported cannot mean quite the same thing. We're not obligated, in any contractual sense, to provide anyone with anything. That's the nature of a volunteer effort. However, users and organizations considering OpenOffice will naturally think in terms of support, even if they user that term loosely. We use that term as well, in our release notes, etc. But I think we ought to have a more precise definition of what we mean when we say something is supported, in order to avoid any confusion. This question has come up recently, with regards to the status of Windows 8, where that OS had not been released at the time AOO 3.4.1 was released. So here's a strawman proposal for what supported means for us. 1) Supported is a statement we make about a specific version of AOO used with a specific platform, e.g., AOO 3.4.1 with Windows XP SP3 or AOO 3.4 with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. 2) Supported means we encourage use of AOO in that configuration. We have high confidence that the combination is stable, that it works well and is safe. 3) Our confidence in stating something is supported should have a solid basis in testing. Something is not supported by us guessing it should work. It is supported only after we have successfully completed testing of that release with that platform. We probably should define exactly what level of testing is required. 4) Supported also implies that the supported configuration is sufficiently available and there is sufficient expertise that we have confidence that users will have a high quality experience seeking support on the forums and user list. 5) Supported also implies that we stand behind that release and will take necessary steps to correct *critical* bugs, especially security flaws, via rapidly produced point releases where necessary. Note that these are all expectations that a user might have, though any given user might think that supported means only a subset of these. What we probably really need is more of a lifecycle statement, including when support for a configuration ends. -Rob Supported should mean also that it works with an out of the box install of the supported operating system. We must remember that the average user is relatively unskilled in computer knowledge and terminology; they want to press the button of the install package and have it install a working OpenOffice without intervention on their part. Such behaviour also as a good spin-off in terms of less User support being needed; lurking on the Forum one will quickly see that many awkward support cases are caused by insufficient computer knowledge of the users, as also by attempts on their part to out-guess the install process. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Endnote/Index in Writer
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:21:36 +0100 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/12/30 TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com On 12/30/2012 07:11, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On the en-Forum it has just been pointed out to me that Endnotes place themselves at the End of a document; this prevents an alphabetical Index being placed there, which is the usual location for it. Perhaps this should be considered for alteration in a forthcoming revision of Writer. Hi, Rory, Would a fake master doc (only one sub-document) be a quick way around this problem? I don't think so. The only way to move endnotes from the end of the document is to enclose the whole document/chapter on a section configured to send the endnotes at the end of the section itself instead of the end of the document. While this workaround covers most user cases, there could be corner situations (a document already using lots of sections, for example to get variable number of columns) where this will not work as intended. Regards Ricardo The endnotes should stay with the chapter, and the index, specified in the master, should come last. (I don't use these features, so I can't say for sure.) A further posting from the original poster on the en-Forum may be of interest: - Subject: User defined index goes in master doc? and sub docs? Postby server85050 » 02 Jan 2013 17:22 I have no problems using the built in TOC index in a master doc because that index is also automatically in the index entry options of the sub docs. But if I put the user defined index in the master doc only, the sub doc does not show the user defined index as an option when doing an index entry. In other words, if I want a user defined index in the master doc, do I have to also put a that user defined index by that same name in each of my 15 sub docs? But I don't want an user defined index showing in each chapter of the book, just at the end (at the end of the master doc when updated). I don't want an alphabetical index at the end (built-in option). I want a sequential index (a list of entries with page numbers) at the end of the book. Where do I put the user define index so all the sub docs can see it and let me insert an index entry for that index. Clearly one belongs in the master doc at the end, but what about the sub docs. Putting an index in each sub doc seems redundant and confusing, especially if I do not want it to show-up in each sub doc. Writer is sure to have a fit over 16 user defined indexes with the same name. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=58496 -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Endnote/Index in Writer
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:30:39 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: A further posting from the original poster on the en-Forum may be of interest: Apologies! It is a similar topic from a different poster, but still, I think, relevant to the problem of layout in OpenOffice of the end of a file using Endnotes/Index(es) and Appendices. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
For information: Ubuntu on Android phones news report
BBC report that Ubuntu will be modified to run on Android phones. This may open the door for a port of Apache OpenOffice http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868 I offer the report as is, from a reliable news source. Please don't shoot the messenger! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: http://oooforum.org/ is not accessible
On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:16:12 +0400 Yakov Reztsov yakovr...@mail.ru wrote: http://oooforum.org/ is not accessible I got error: DNS service for this domain has expired with DNS Made Easy It has been very uncertain of access for about the last four months. No one knows anything certain about its future. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Draft blog response to top 10 questions
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:46:41 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=your_top_questions_answered snip Number 5, about PDF needs a plain statement that AOO and earlier OOo are not intended to be PDF readers/editors, which task is best handled by dedicated tools, although the PDF import extension for AOO does permit minor cosmetic editing. There is a common misconception that OpenOffice ought open every type of office file; each week on the Forum there are several queries concerning failure to open PDFs in OpenOffice. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Draft blog response to top 10 questions
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:36:33 -0500 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: First to what Rory was saying on PDF editing, I tend to agree and personally don't see it as a must have feature for any suite - that said, again for myself I'd point out that with ODF-extended file format they can create a PDF/ODF hybrid (whether you think that is a good idea or not..;) but it is the case anyway) and I think worth a mention. It ought be emphasised that this only allows limited (cosmetic type) editing. To Ariel's point - I think it's valid (though I disagree that AOO on MS Windows wouldn't know about it) IMO the best situation is to not address LibO at all - I would directly tell folks asking about it to ask at the proper location and that is LibO. I will say the same about LibO resources. Myself I wish that were not the best way, but I think it is. That said, I also hope that AOO and LibO developers end up having a beer together at FOSDEM and exchanging ideas on the code in sessions.. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:46:41AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=your_top_questions_answered In addition to review, note that I need help developing a response to questions 7, 8 and 10. 7. Open Office doesn't handle tables in Word well - for example re-sizing of columns, keeping table rows together, inserting page breaks within tables. Could OO development include a goal of fully matching MS Office functionality for tables? 8. When is OpenOffice going to get a visual refresh and be built with each OSes native widgets? 10. Why is the User Profile causing so much trouble in migration from older versions to 3.4.1? I counted 11 mentions to LibreOffice. Do we really want to give them such kind of promotion? Simply recall that most of OpenOffice's user base (Windows users), know nothing about LO; I understand their need to build their brand, but using Apache resource to do so doesn't sound fine IMHO. I know this tries to answers the top asked questions, among those are LO related questions, but how representative are these questions when most of our user base does not even know what LO is? These questions could really be genuine AOO users questions, or simply a way some LO followers have chosen to promote their brand using OpenOffice brand and resources. It might be worth reducing the number of specific references to LibO to the bare minimum, and gereralising to stress that AOO code can be and is used by a number of other customised Office suites; we don't have to list them. A general statement of Apache OpenOffice willingness to co-operate should suffice, without casting blame in any direction. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Draft blog response to top 10 questions
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 11:57:11 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip OK. See if the revised answer is good. Revised text is very good. snip Is there anything in the current text that suggests blame? No, Rob, there is not, nor was there; I'm sorry if it was picked up so. My comment was intended as general policy that we should not attribute blame in any direction; I think we are all well aware how any such might be picked up by pro-active supporters of other office suites and a seemingly innocent statement of fact escalated into a vicious slanging match, with increasing ill-feeling on both sides. If the AOO project is to proceed (and hopefully, heal historic breaches) I think we all need to be careful to avoid adverse criticism of others involved in another but similar project. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Problems with Download
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:11:32 -0500 Jan Heckler jan.heck...@pcusa.org wrote: Hi! I am a missionary in Madagascar and my online anti-virus program (TrendMicro) has all the sites your site sends me to to download your software as unacceptably UNSAFE. I went to order a CD and your site says it is studying the possibility of doing this again. Please work out a safe download site with TrendMicro so they don't block your downloads. And, if there is a solution for me I don't see at prsent, please so advise me. Thanks in advance. Peace, Janice B. Heckler Mission Co-Worker Presbyterian Church (USA) Antananarivo, Madagascar If you download from www.openoffice.org/download you will be routed to sourceforge who host our downloads. If you check that you are downloading from such a site you can be reasonably certain that the warning from TrendMicro is a false positive. You can verify the download by checking its MD5Sum as told at http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto You can obtain the MD5Sum from http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html Great care is taken with our download files that they do not become contaminated with virises or malware; from other sites not under or control they are often loaded with adware and other objectionable addons. But from the above sites I feel sure you ought have no problems. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:18:03 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: I've translated the first page of the French flyer and will send it to you now, off list. Chop and change as you think fit. No time today to tackle the second side, so glad you are doing it. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: file extender odm conflict
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 11:09:15 -0800 Toby Fouks tfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi -- I have just had to uninstall open office because downloads from overdrive [public library audio books] are also odm files, and there appeared now way to have the overdrive media console open up -- the defaults [Win 7] were correct but the system automatically wanted to create open office files. This is why I've had to uninstall a very good word processor. I don't know what the solution is ... unless using a flash drive or external hard drive will solve the problem. You could leave OpenOffice installed, byt change the File Association for .odm files. Right click on an overdrive .odm file, select Open with from the popup menu and scroll down the list until you see the overdrive application. Select this. At the window bottom should be a link to say always open with this application (or words to that effect. Now .odm files will open in Overdrive. If you need to open an OpenOffice .odm file, you can do this the long way by /File /Open and point to the .odm file while in OpenOffice. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 19:42:50 -0500 Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Oh one other thing, anyone know what overgangsëffecten translates to, the only word I'm lost on. Transition effects or animation effects, I think. Drew: that paragraph translates (from the French) Need to present your thoughts to a meeting or a conference? Time to call on Impress. Templates assist you to easily prepare your presentations. Use animations, transition effects, sound and video to liven up your presentations. Different methods of layout and formatting and many useful tools will help you design your slide show. Preset yor data in tables and charts. Record your presentation in PowerPoint format if necessary, or export it in PDF format. Be persuasive with Impress! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: APACHE OPEN OFFICE 3.4.1. PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 23:29:48 + harry steven edinburghapartm...@hotmail.com wrote: I have just downloaded this Version of Open Office.Now my Printer will not print anything in Open Office and refers me to check my Printer configuration.At 74 years of age, this is all a mystery to me, so please tell me how I can get my Printer to print out a legal Document I need so urgently.Thanks you.Harry StevenEdinburgh Scotland A quick workaround to allow you print your document without delay: /File /Export as PDF. Now open the PDF document in a PDF reader (usually Adobe Reader, almost certainly installed on your computer) and print the document from that. The longer approach to a fix: it can help to reinstall your printer _after_ installing OpenOffice. Reports of printer problems seem to occur more commonly when 64 bit Windows operating systems are used; there may be some problem interfacing with 32 bit OpenOffice, but the problem is not common or recreatable for debugging, as far as I know. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: An annoying autocorrect
My previous reply sent separately to the OP. I should set my email options to default to 2Reply to All. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Possible broken link: other
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:53:55 +0100 Rolf Apelqvist rolf.apelqv...@live.se wrote: I can´t open my document in Writing rolf.apelqv...@comhem.se What does it say? What operating system are you using? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: website not working
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:58:45 -0800 (PST) cloudfire the_wiz_of...@yahoo.com wrote: Your link for the legacy (last working version) version of Open Office is not working. When will it be up and running? For earlier versions this link is working (just now checked) http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/stable/ -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: images not showing in saved documents
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:58:20 -0500 matt wooddy matt.woo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello - When I open an image and insert it into a .doc document, the image does not appear when it is opened by the recipient. Also, when I open the file on my computer after saving, the image disappears, but the size of the file retains the image information. Attached is an example. Can you please inform me of why I am experiencing this? I have checked by view settings under toolsoptions, so that is not the problem. I have also spent a few hours reading the forums and help sections. Thanks, Matt In OpenOffice check that your images are embedded, not linked. /Edit /Links to switch them from linked to embedded. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: An idea: Add option to delete profile when uninstalling
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 07:09:24 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As I've been reviewing the backlog of defect reports submitted by users I notice a lot of them that are probably caused by the upgrade profile corruption bug. I see reports of this on Twitter and Facebook as well. Most users seem smart enough to uninstall and reinstall. They've learned that from other programs. It is pretty much the standard solution to crash problems -- uninstall and reinstall and you'll be fine. But in our case, that doesn't fix anything, since the profile is not removed when we uninstall. What if we added an option to delete the profile when uninstalling? I've seen many programs that do that. It could be a page that says, Delete application profile and settings? Default could be No, the same behavior we have today. But this would give a far easier way for users to recover from profile corruption. I think it might be better to rename the old profile to .BAK (or something) even if the User believes it to have been deleted; that way, custom dictionaries etc will be preserved and can be recovered. It can happen that a long time user of OpenOffice can have customisation, but is not a technically informed user. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Open Office
On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:56:28 -0800 (PST) conrad luznar ce...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I can not get Open Office to number pages correctly. It either skips to every other page or else keeps repeating page numbers. Thank You Conrad Luznar You may find this thread of help http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=59101p=261392 There is also a useful tutorial on Page Numbering at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=1221 and a tutorial on a related subject Page Styles at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=44607 -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Problem with the API forum
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:57:13 -0300 Yessica Brinkmann yessica.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote: I understand, thank you very much. I really do not like the idea that my posts are modified by others, and that could mean, for example, something I did not say. Actually I did not receive any notification about this. Also I think if my messages are not understood, that I should be notified, for education and respect, asking for more information, and not simply be ignored. I understand that these are policies of the forum, but just saying that I disagree with them. However, for personal reasons, I will unsubscribe for the forum. Regards, Yessica I think there may be a language misunderstanding here, involving the two words modified and moderated. I think the word mofifiied was used in error for moderated. I am not involved with the API forum but my knowledge of the en-Forum is this (and I would not expect the API forum to be much different): the initial posts are moderated, that is, inspected to be sure that they are not spam, carrying advertising, or trivial posts consisting of pointless noise. Unfortunately this has become necessary for initial posters to many newsgroups, mailing lists and forums, to help reduce the nuisance ostings and try to keep the list relevant to its purpose. A user's posts are in general not modified; a group moderator might correct a spelling error (typos can happen to the best of us!) or change a mistranslated term to the correct one, but only to clarify the sense, in the intention to be helpful. Once a user has had a posting approved his postings are displayed immediately. This process is sufficient to reduce the level of spam and noise postings significantly. I hope that explanation sets your mind at rest, Yessica. 2013/2/7 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org On 2/7/13, Yessica Brinkmann yessica.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Excuse me please write back by forum inadequate. But it's already doing 22 hours I sent emails to the API forum but no one answers, and I have not received any message from this other forum participants. I do not know if this forum has a very low flow of mails or what happens. I received confirmation api welcome to the forum, which means that I subscribed. I wanted to ask if you could continue to help me please, if this forum has api mails as low flow, or what recommend I do? Much appreciate an answer please. regards, Yessica Also if you are a new user on the forum, your post needs to be 'cleared' by some of the mantainers, which mean that your post is not visible to the rest of the forum members. You should have got a message announcing you this, so you need to be more patient and also provide more information. Not having enough information on your post is enough reason to get potential contributors to skip your post. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:04:09 +0100 (CET) FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: The forum are back now. Thanks imacat But, this morning 11:00am (UTC+1), the FR forum is slow again. Maybe the MySQL max_connections parameter must be increase. Do you have check this point? Reports from other forums using phpBB software suggest that overflowing log files can cause this problem. I offer this merely as a suggestion - I have no phpBB experience. I note that the maximum number of users listed by the Forum reports has remained static at 294 since 25 October 2012; I have never observed a number of users close to that figure at any time, so I doubt the problem is actually an insufficient number of connections, no matter what the reort says. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
En Forum down again just now. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:07:01 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: En Forum down again just now. En-Forum now back - only a 15 min outage this time! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What is our best recommendation for 3.4.1 spell checking not working?
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:00:26 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Users report that they install 3.4.1 and spell checking is not working. Redd squiggly lines under every word. Currently we point users to an exhaustive and exhausting list of possible remedies for this on the Forum. Very unhelpful, IMHO. I assume that in reality there is one predominate cause and solution to this issue rather than a dozen. So what is the most-likely to work solution? I'd like to point the users to that first, and then the exhaustive list as a back up. Subject to confirmation by Hagar and RGB (and other Forum activists), as far as I am aware most Spellcheck problems are cured by deleting or renaming the User Profile. Mostly the problems arise from finger trouble - Users trying to outguess OpenOffice. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:00:03 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com Hello everybody, The two most important improvements since my last update: - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position and Size, Graphics, Page) - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by placeholders for the time being. More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page [1]. The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the sidebar. But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it. But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform. But please not that this is work in progress. Do not use it to work on important documents. If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for each context. Have fun, Andre [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en... instead of ...rpm_en... fixed Anyway, downloading right now :) Regards Ricardo I'm getting a You don't have permission to access /~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/Apache_OpenOffice-Dev_AOO350m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz on this server. on the DEB and the Windows versions. OK on the RPM and the Mac versions. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forums down (SQL error: Too many connections [1040])
Down again 20130322 1145 UTC -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:58:00 +0100 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this extension (demo): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/ +1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something else in the sidebar. Hagar Agreed that Word Count would be better in the Status bar, rather than in the Sidebar. My reasons: if Sidebar is turned off by a User and they continue to use the classic OpenOffice interface, then they still have the Word Count. I haven't yet had time to try the Sidebar (apart from looking at the visuals), as my current systems are all 32 bit Ubuntu; in the next few weeks I hope to migrate one or more to 64 bit Ubuntu so I can try the Sidebar -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Proposal]: Call for donations
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:22:33 +0200 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, in relation to our budget planning I asked myself if OpenOffice has any impact on the donations to the ASF? Well I don't know and we can probably figure this out but the question is what can we do ti collect more donations and use our brand more effective. When I look on our main website I found a tiny donation link in the footer only. From my point of view this is not good enough and we should think how we can improve it. I can think of a much more prominent and more visible donation link or whatever to make clear that OpenOffice will still benefit from donations to the ASF. We have more IT requirements than other ASF projects, we generate more network traffic, etc. and all this cost money. Furthermore I can think of a blog post to promote this in some way and do a public call for donation. We should of course do this more often with any public announcement. And opinions or further ideas how we can improve this? It shouldn't be a big problem for us to collect the money we need. Juergen While I understand and agree with a call for donations, do I remember that a very early discussion on this list mentioned that donations to Apache could not be project specific, or am I misremembering and that the mentioned restriction was only flaw specific? That is, that one could donate, but could not specify that the donation was to be applied to fix flaw X. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Technical Support
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:41:21 -0400 Renee Lerner rrler...@nj.rr.com wrote: Hello, Open Office's text document opens as ODF Test Document- (.odt) My email recipients can not to access attachments in the above format. I change the format of the document to Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP (.doc) and access to emails is successful. However, if I use bullets in the .odt document the bullets change to a box with an X in it which I do not like in the .doc document. What do you suggest I do to convert the document for access to attachments and save the bullets? Renée Lerner If they do not need to edit the file, send as PDF. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: help
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) marc orlando marco9...@gmail.com wrote: Dear dev, I need to ask a technical question that I need answered in simple language. A step format is welcome. I am moving to UBUNTU. The issue is that OPEN OFFICE is NOT in the software manager screen. I was told it was deliberitly removed for technical reasons. In WINDOWS when I download/install I use the .EXE process. Which I like. If I use UBUNTU to open your web site, when I now download/install will the program show me the equivalent .DEB files? Is the process similar to the EXE format? I do not want to use command line if I can aviod it. Too foreign and hard for me to understand. Do all web site programs show the DEB files as long as I use UBUNTU to open them? Please provide complete details in a step,format in simple language. Please tell me if the OO process also applies to any program opened in UBUNTU. I have researched this but all the explanations are in computer speak. I need it in simple ENGLISH. At present there is no easy way out of using the command line. How to install OpenOffice is clearly set out in this tutorial. Note that, if you are using Ubuntu, you should remove all traces of LibreOffice before installing OpenOffice. The removal is best done (in my experience) using Synaptic; tell it to find libreoffice-core, and remmove that and associated programs. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: help
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:16:55 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) marc orlando marco9...@gmail.com wrote: Dear dev, I need to ask a technical question that I need answered in simple language. A step format is welcome. I am moving to UBUNTU. The issue is that OPEN OFFICE is NOT in the software manager screen. I was told it was deliberitly removed for technical reasons. In WINDOWS when I download/install I use the .EXE process. Which I like. If I use UBUNTU to open your web site, when I now download/install will the program show me the equivalent .DEB files? Is the process similar to the EXE format? I do not want to use command line if I can aviod it. Too foreign and hard for me to understand. Do all web site programs show the DEB files as long as I use UBUNTU to open them? Please provide complete details in a step,format in simple language. Please tell me if the OO process also applies to any program opened in UBUNTU. I have researched this but all the explanations are in computer speak. I need it in simple ENGLISH. At present there is no easy way out of using the command line. How to install OpenOffice is clearly set out in this tutorial. Note that, if you are using Ubuntu, you should remove all traces of LibreOffice before installing OpenOffice. The removal is best done (in my experience) using Synaptic; tell it to find libreoffice-core, and remmove that and associated programs. When posting my previous reply I omitted the URL for the tutorial - sorry! The tutorial is at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=68 -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: draft blog post: With Special Guest Star... Apache OpenOffice
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:48:10 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_special_guest_star_apache This is time-sensitive, so I'd like to get this out this afternoon. Send it out - it's non controversial! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unable to install OpenOffice SDK
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:05:15 +0530 Rajath Shashidhara rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 on my computer. The self extracting .deb file I downloaded from your website doesn't install from ubuntu sofware center. Error: ooobasis3.4-core01 not found. Is there a workaround for this problem? Can I extract the debian and modify some make files to manually install this on my system? The first question that must be asked is this: Is ooobasis3.4-core01 actually present on your computer? Try a file search (including Hidden and System files). If you are using one of the development snapshots I think they have changed the name. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unable to install OpenOffice SDK
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:32:29 +0530 Rajath Shashidhara rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, No. ooobasis3.4-core01 is not found on installed on my computer. I downloaded ooobasis3.4-core01 from this website: http://sourceforge.net/projects/apacheoo-deb/files/debian/pool/main/o/ I tried to install that, again there is an error: OpenOffice.org-ure not found! OpenOffice.org-ure is inbuilt in the SDK.(I found this out from your website). Now I'm downloading the src files and i'll try to compile it myself. Thanks for your help. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 12:05:15 +0530 Rajath Shashidhara rajaths.raja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 on my computer. The self extracting .deb file I downloaded from your website doesn't install from ubuntu sofware center. Error: ooobasis3.4-core01 not found. Is there a workaround for this problem? Can I extract the debian and modify some make files to manually install this on my system? The first question that must be asked is this: Is ooobasis3.4-core01 actually present on your computer? Try a file search (including Hidden and System files). If you are using one of the development snapshots I think they have changed the name. The SDK is probably targetted towards a release version of OpenOffice being already installed. I suspect (no certain knowledge) that you would need to recompile the SDK to suit the development version of AOO you are using/compiling. I doubt that simply downloading the missing deb file will satisfy the SDK's dependencies. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Sidebar
Those working on the Sidebar may find it of interest to look at that in KWord http://www.kde.org/applications/office/kword/ -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.
. I don't know if that was due to the traffic or not. But we might want to plan on having the announcement post be a static webpage just to be sure. The blog post is on the general apache server and not our www, is that correct ? Correct. 2) The homepage and http://www.openoffice.org/download page will be hot. You can see from the download chart the boost we get when a new release occurs: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html (AOO 3.4.0 was May 8th 2012 and AOO 3.4.1 was Aug 23rd). That is a real obvious case for trafficserver, and until it is in place I can ask to have the httpd use memcached (which it might be already). Currently the www is on a general apache server, so I need strong arguments to make changes (high load is a strong argument) Translate-vm also needs tunings, but that is in progress, and infra has been very kind and prepared an extra vm, so we/I install/tune without affecting the active system. thx in advance for figures. rgds jan I. THANKS a lot for your answer, which help me a lot doing calc.. Sorry for being frank about the forum, but it really make me nervous that we have a service where part it unknown. rgds Jan I - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: wiki, forum, www performance upgrade.
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:07:28 +0200 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 24/04/2013 21:12, janI a écrit : I cannot judge the effect of the global slowdownbut someone (me) had a look at the mysql, and did a couple of obvious small changes, however we still have a general httpd/mysql tuning outstanding, the configs seems to have been done independently. I will get around to it when the new pootle server is online. Thanks then. There is definitively an improvement, even with your small changes. Hagar Yes, the en-Forum is now stable again. The only comment I make is that access for moderators to check for new posts and other moderator functions is quite slow, at a guess about 20-30 seconds; but I can live with that if I have to. I'll time it tomorrow when I get a chance (and find my stopwatch!) For the next few weeks efforts should be towards getting AOO 4.0 ready and released. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Omitted carriage return in Norwegian print dialog
This has come up on the en-Forum, illustrated by screenshot at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=61301p=271437#p271363 and I have reported it to Bugzilla https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122163 If anyone is working on Norwegian translation this should be a trivial fix before AOO 4.0. p.s., I don't speak Norwegian... -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update on logo survey
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:18:29 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A quick update. We've been running for 18 hours, enough time to get around the globe. So far we have 1712 responses. It is probably worth thinking about what we want to do with all the data. I did an analysis of the results so far, and some quick thoughts: 1) The question asking for person's age appears to be useless. Unless we have an unusual number of users in their 70's , 80's and 90's, a large number of users are entering their birth year rather than their age. So I'm planning on just ignoring that field. (This is probably why you often see this done as a drop down list of years in other surveys, less error prone). 2) I will be able to produce a list of logos, sorted by average score and given the % breakdown of 1's, 2's, 3's, etc. Maybe even a histogram chart for each. 3) We're receiving a lot of comments on the individual logos, many more than I expected. So we can expect that for each logo there will be 200 or more text comments. I'm not sure what we want to do with these. Since this is an anonymous survey the users are quite blunt with their comments on the logos they did not prefer, using coarse language, etc., stuff that would be inappropriate if a list subscriber posted. It is not all constructive criticism. Some of it is quite harsh. On the other hand, there is a tremendous amount of valuable feedback as well, that we and the designers specifically might find useful. So what to do? a) Post it all, the good the bad and the ugly? b) Remove or censor only profanity and post the rest? c) Make feedback available only to the individual designers via email d) Publicly post the feedback only for the top 5 logos, share the rest privately with the individual designers. e) Something else? -Rob d is best option We are only interested in the 5 best (although if there are close ties for places this ought be extended); we don't care about the comments for the also rans (to use a horse-racing term. If there were a preponderance of comments for any of the top five suggesting a particular modification, the designer might wish to revise his design for the run-off (even to the extent, I suggest, of allowing him have the original and the revision in the run-off). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: tech support
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Martin Obrien pingjock...@ameritech.net wrote: I am trying to get help with a sudden aberration I am experiencing with Open Office. Can you please send me in the right direction? The Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ offers good support for Users dealing with OpenOffice problems. You will need to give full details of your Operating System, OpenOffice version and the problem. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [build] source of epm source package no longer available
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:16 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have just noticed that the epm source package - build requirement for Linux platform - is no longer available via [1] as easysw.com has closed its doors. This is also the reason why our working Linux buildbots could not successfully perform the build. Does somebody has an alternative download URL? [1] http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz Best regards, Oliver. A quick search suggests that the source is moving to http://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2 More details are given at http://www.msweet.org/about.php -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [build] source of epm source package no longer available
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:03:10 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 29.04.2013 10:02, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:16 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have just noticed that the epm source package - build requirement for Linux platform - is no longer available via [1] as easysw.com has closed its doors. This is also the reason why our working Linux buildbots could not successfully perform the build. Does somebody has an alternative download URL? [1] http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz Best regards, Oliver. A quick search suggests that the source is moving to http://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2 More details are given at http://www.msweet.org/about.php Thanks for providing this possible new resource. My quick search was not as sucessful as yours. Oliver I use the term quicxk search r -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [build] source of epm source package no longer available
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:03:10 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 29.04.2013 10:02, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:16 +0200 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I have just noticed that the epm source package - build requirement for Linux platform - is no longer available via [1] as easysw.com has closed its doors. This is also the reason why our working Linux buildbots could not successfully perform the build. Does somebody has an alternative download URL? [1] http://ftp.easysw.com/pub/epm/3.7/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz Best regards, Oliver. A quick search suggests that the source is moving to http://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2 More details are given at http://www.msweet.org/about.php Thanks for providing this possible new resource. My quick search was not as sucessful as yours. Sorry my last post go away, as posts sometimes do! I use the term quick search to mean here is what looks like a good hit - I haven't time to search further. It is worth reading the details at the second URL - the code is the same, from the same author - the transfer is due to commercial restructuring. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Got a problem
On Thu, 9 May 2013 01:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Oliver Trautmann nightwalker...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't know enough about computers to figure it out on my own and nothing at your website helps; my English (US) spellchecker marks every word as misspelled and that's annoying on so many levels. Help Oliver Delete your User Profile Details are at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=12426 and restart OpenOffice _completely_ (Easiest to power of /on your computer, with proper shutdown). If that doesn't work, please post a query to the Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: PO files and version field empty warning.
On Fri, 10 May 2013 15:11:27 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi I have just filed *Bug 122276*https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122276in bugzilla. When we generate po files, we should ensure that the version is not empty, since we dont use it, it can be filled with anything. I suggest to use sed -i when generating po files. I have seen now several times, that we tell translators not to worry about the warning from e.g. POedit. However if you look at the POedit source you will find that a high important warning (like version field) might supress other real warnings. Therefore I highly suggest we change our advice, and tell translators to fill out version with e.g. aoo40. rgds jan I. Might I suggest AOO40 (capital letters, rather than Jan I's lowercase). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Tutorial Constructing Helpers
On Fri, 10 May 2013 08:31:43 -0500 Henry Tiquet Leyva henry.tiquet.le...@gmail.com wrote: hello everyone, I am doing this tutorial: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Constructing_Helpers in ubuntu 12.10. I used the implementation code (http://pastebin.com/aRWY6mrH) in a cxx file but I get this error: -luno_cppuhelpergcc3 -luno_cppu -luno_salhelpergcc3 -luno_sal -lstlport_gcc /usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.7/../../../i386-linux-gnu/crt1.o: In function `_start': (.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status I would like to know witch can be the cause of this error and how can I fix it. Henry, I think the title ought be Instructing not Constructing. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion
On Mon, 13 May 2013 08:59:10 +0100 Cara Johnson caraj1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, FIRST, let me just say that I am in awe of the work you all do and really, really, REALLY, appreciate having all of OpenOfffice's tools available to me. Sorry, but there is a BUT coming: One of the very few things that MS Word does better than OpenOffice Writer is that it allows one to do a global replace of the Shift-Enter character with ^p. Slightly different syntax in OpenOffice /Edit /Find and Replace In the Find box \n In the Replace box \n Drop More Options and select Regular expressions. The \n has different meanings in each of the boxes. In the Find, in means Shift Enter, in the Replace it means Paragraph mark The reason that this is a good thing and would be VERY helpful, is that when one copies text from an online document, the paragraphs invariably are made with Shift-Enter. Example: (unfortch, those dratted little arrow thingees don't show here, just imagine one at the end of each truncated line: Danans in the early ages. The terms Sighc, /Sigheog, and Siabhra, were applied by the Irish to Fairies : hence came the names Sktbhrog, a fairy habitation; Sluagh-Sighe, the fairy host; and Bean-Sighe, a fairy woman. The fairies were also called by the Irish Deamhain-Aedhiry signifying Demons of the Air; and frequently Daione-Maithe, meaning *' the good people — being so denominated for fear of giving them offence, and dreading their power% As one can see, fort of, it's tedious in the extreme to replace each of these characters individually in order for the text to flow properly. Thank you for your time and for this great suite of tools. Kind regards, Cara Johnson Dublin, Ireland -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Translation] What is this?
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:18:02 +0200 (CEST) FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: What does mean a Presentation (packed)? I have a difficulty to translate Difficult to say without the context. Perhaps it refers to a Presentation (minimised); that is, a presentation file that has been processed by Sun/Oracle (or whoever!) Presentation Minimizer, which reduces the presentation to the optimum size for projection and embeds all previously linked graphics. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Find a better name for sidebar?
On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:16:55 +0200 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, Would not it make sense to think about the sidebar to give a distinctive name? OOo and StarOffice but were really known for standalone name of GUI elements. What I mean are terms such as Navigator, Giesskanne or Datenpilot (all German). I think the sidebar is very welcomed by our users (so much so that LibreOffice is to copy it) and I think she deserves a distinctive name. A catchy name would also be good for the marketing for the new sidebar. Is it possible to finding a name to make a brainstorming session? Or to write out a little contest? Navigator is already taken (F5 key turns it on/off). Toolbar is inaccurate and in too common use; I have seen Toolbox used in other programs (years ago in CP/M and early MSDOS days). Perhaps Toolpanel? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Find a better name for sidebar?
I'm cutting previous quotes, as many of the arguments in them are not immediately relevant to the question of a suuitable name. I would argue against the use of bar in connection with the sidepanel. It is not a bar in the normal understanding of the word in computing - a bar being long and thin and (typically) one icon tall, although there can be exceptions. Panel or box is in my view more descriptive. We might consider variations on a car or aeroplane's instrument panel or control panel or perhaps a ship's binnacle or a human nerve centre or medically a monitoring console. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Question about: OpenOffice Calc. =-1^2 like expressions
On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:08:15 +0200 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Andre Fischer wrote: In any case, this is a problem with no good solution. Indeed. Before this becomes another 0 ^ 0... there is an issue for this, it dates back to 2004 and it is marked invalid. That's it. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=24271 If someone has strong feelings he can post comments there, even though I don't believe that marking the issue as REOPENED would have any practical effects. Regards, Andrea. I think whether this behaviour be mathematically correct or incorrect we must follow the behaviour of MS Excel. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Blog about sidebar
On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:10:56 +0200 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: I am writing a blog post about the sidebar. Please have a look at [1]. Any comments are welcome. Some spelling/grammatical/meaning corrections: Para The third group: 'changes where necessary' 'changes were necessary' (spelling) Para The core implementation: OMIT 'that is' (redundant) Para The sidebar is: CHANGE 'may no (not yet) panel' 'may not yet be a panel' (better phrasing) Para The deck that: CHANGE 'the user, you, is currently' 'the user is currently' OR you are currently' (better phrasing) Same Para: UI is undefined (ambiguity for non computer literate reader) Same Para: CHANGE 'at the same time makes' 'at the same time making' (corrects change of verb tense) Para The OpenOffice.org name: CHANGE 'to difficult' 'too difficult' (spelling) Para The name sidebar: CHANGE 'every' 'ever' (spelling) Para Up to now: UXers is undefined. (ambiguity for non computer literate reader - should it be User Experience testers or Users?) Para Like in toolbars: CHANGE 'Like in toolbars' 'As in toolbars' (better phrasing) Same Para, first bullet point: CHANGE 'adavantage' 'advantage' (spelling) Same Para: INSERT 'of most screens' 'of most modern screens' (better description) Para: A little known feature: CHANGE 'are extensions' 'is the extensions' (grammatical error) Para: You can add: CHANGE 'changes like for example changes in the selection' 'changes such as different selections (better phrasing, avoids multiple use of word 'changes') Para: The toolbars and dialogs like: CHANGE 'like' 'such as' (better phrasing) Para: OpenOffice is an: INSERT 'We don't want youyr money. 'We don't want your money, but if you wish to makre a donation link to donatipon site' (Good strategy not to miss possible donations) -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Blog about sidebar
On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:52:33 +0200 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: snip I applied the rest of the changes (some of my errors are so embarrassing). Thank you very much. -Andre If I could write any other language than my own as well as you do, I'd be very proud! -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:46:43 -0400 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to have a canonical response we can point people to. It needs some editing, but mainly looking for content feedback initially. There's a comma I'd move, but otherwise the only real comment I have is that I'd use N and N+1 instead of N-1 and N. I personally think that'd be more intuitively understandable to laypeople. I gather this or a permalink to it will go in the FAQ? Don 4th paragraph two release two releases -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: concerning footnotes when using openoffice writer
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:42:04 +0800 Y Chan teresacha...@gmail.com wrote: When using openoffice writer to write thesis, I find the footnotes often disrupted when converted into doc. Say, the lines are shifted and there are redundant numbering bullets. It is hard to avoid converting into doc. because I don't have a printer, and all the computers at school dont have openoffice. Looking forward to improvements :) Cheers, Yuk There is no immediate fix for this. It is best to use the defined styles for footnotes, the styles modified if necessary to suit your need, rather than to individually (directly) format each footnote to suit your requirements. You can use a portable version of OpenOffice which will run off a USB key. I'm sorry, I haven't an up-to-date link for this version. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Orientation page - Writer
On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:23:13 -0500 Henry Tiquet Leyva henry.tiquet.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I would like begin to modify the AOO code and I think to begin with the page orientation (Writer). The idea is to create a button on the toolbar for change the page orientation with a click. I would like to know what code manipulates the orientation page in Writer. There is an earlier extension to do this at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/Alba but I understand it has been rendered inoperable by later code changes in OpenOffice. Its code may give you some useful hints. How do you propose to cope with the style changes such an orientation change will involve? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:50:12 +0200 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/6/12 Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:35:23 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta program to solicit early feedback on builds. This could be a good complement to our formal QA efforts. A beta program could be set up like this: 1) After feature freeze, and after smoke tests pass on the 3 major platforms, we have a build that has the new code, and doesn't have any known horrible defects. 2) Immediately create a special Release Candidate for the beta, English only, or maybe a combination install with 5 major languages. 3) Vote on the release of the beta via the normal 72-hour PMC vote. Focus on the formal release checks around license, notice, etc. 4) Distribute via SourceForge and/or Apache mirrors. No need to preserve older betas. We'd only keep the most recent one. I just want to make sure that we're all aware this option is available. We can do something that gives wider public exposure than a dev snapshot build, but is less than a final version. The key thing is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user expectations that it is a beta. Regards, A very major problem is that relatively inexperienced user _will_ download and use a beta, disregarding any warnings about it being a beta. They will increase the support workload, as faults may be due to their inexperience, not to shortcomings in the beta, and certainly the stress level for support staff as they are hassled to try to obtain recovery of the most important file this load of has ruined on me. A lot of projects list multiple versions of their software with the most stable at the top, and other versions provided below with multiple caveats attached, such as, This is the most bleeding edge version we've got right now, download and try at your own risk...but please provide feedback if you do. As long as the first entry is described as the stable one, I'd like to think users would get that one. But I've heard I can be naive. I don't think that a lot of users will overlook a big and flashy warning (I've seen users afraid to download 3.4.x because it said incubating), but I'm pretty sure that those few that actually download a beta without worrying about what a beta is will be far more vocal than the others... Just a thought: is it possible to force those beta releases to open on launch a one page document telling (better wording needed, of course...) I'm a development version! Use me at your own risk! Download the latest stable release from here? BTW, I really like the idea of a public beta program. We just need to be very careful about how to promote it. Regards Ricardo Don I think Ricardo's idea is a good one; I'm sure he sees, from his forum experience, as I do, the problems from and the risks to the inexperienced user of a beta. Some form of double warning, as he suggests, would be good. I acknowledge that experienced users do make a valuable contribution in beta testing. I think what I'm really suggesting is that we need to protect inexperienced users from themselves. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Idea: Public beta program for AOO 4.1?
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:06:49 +0200 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 12.06.2013 21:32, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 12/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote: Something to consider for AOO 4.1 is the value of a broad public beta program to solicit early feedback on builds. This could be a good complement to our formal QA efforts. I totally agree that we should do so. In retrospective, it would have been good to do it for 4.0 too: we've still received a lot of feedback from the community, but the hidden development builds don't help if people are just trying to get a glimpse of the coming features. +1 for the beta. The key thing is to meet the formal requirements of an Apache release, but set user expectations that it is a beta. This is key, but we have several ways to do it, not necessarily involving a huge disclaimer like the one you put on your e-mail! But it's such a nice disclaimer. -Andre For example, we could make the beta versions available in archive format only: just unzip it and test it, no installation. This will give additional guarantees that people won't overwrite their stable version and cannot mistake the beta for a full version. Of course, this doesn't test system integration, but it could be an acceptable trade-off. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org A big, brief, very blunt disclaimer Beta Software, not to be used for critical work then a longer, more legal explanation might be the approach to take. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Graphical glitches on Draw 4.0
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:41:24 +0100 The problem still exists in AOO build 1491860 on Ubuntu, although not on the Windows version of that build. Also, on Windows version (same build) the line widths are predetermined, on the side panel I could find no selection box into which one can enter a desired line width, or adjust the line width using the up/down arrows. To test in Windows, I had to use the line width selector on the Toolbar. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: jni_uno bridge error
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:03:43 +0800 (CST) Yi laoyi...@126.com wrote: Hi, when I try to install my java extension , I have the error message as follow , How could I fix it? There was a change in calling points of Java, which needs one of a number of fixes. The usual fix, assuming you are using Windows, is to install a 32 bit Java as OpenOffie is at present a 32 bit application. The 32 bit Java will run alongside 64 bit Java, but one has to be careful automatic Java updates don't take it away. You can download a 32 bit Java from http://download.oracle.com/otn/java/jdk/6u35-b10/jre-6u35-windows-i586.exe Install this, then in OpenOffice got to /Tools /Options / openoffice.org : Java and check the box beside this new version of Java (May ned a system reboot and a short wait on the openoffice screen before it is found). There are other fixes, but that I give above is quick and simple. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: euskal encounter 2013
On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 02:22:43 +0200 RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/6/16 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org On 14/06/2013 RA Stehmann wrote: on July 25-28 there is a great event in Bilbao (Basque Country). http://www.euskal.org/en/ Good! Please remember to add it to the list at https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Events+Calendarhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Events+Calendar A friend of mine is organizing a booth to promote Free Software there. Are there any flyers or posters in spanish language or basque? I don't think we have anything in Basque or Spanish, but the FOSDEM leaflet (including the ODT sources in English) is at http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Conferences/FOSDEM/2013#**Merchandisinghttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Conferences/FOSDEM/2013#Merchandising I'm putting the localization list in CC in case someone can provide a Basque (or Spanish) version. I did a quick translation into Spanish http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/AOO_Flyer-ES.odt Layout must be checked because I do not have the used fonts installed on my system. Also, the original EN doc have a missing half paragraph under Base, it seems, because there is a phrase that makes no sense. The hole is marked on the translation with a note. Regards Ricardo If, at that hole, one changed as follows: The built-in HSQLDB Relational DB engine allows the built-in HSQLDB Relational DB engine allowing all would then be well. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Graphical glitches on Draw 4.0
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:10:03 +0200 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 14. Juni 2013 um 15:43 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:24:43 +0200 Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi Ricardo, as I already wrote in #122456# I am very surprised how something like that can happen. I would be happy to be able to reproduce this. Could you give a step-by-step description and infos about machine/system running on? Maybe put it directly in the task and write that you canks in advance! Sincerely, Armin On 14.06.2013 15:08, RGB ES wrote: Just draw a thick line and see if you can reproduce this http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-341vs400.png On the left, 3.4.1, on the right, 4.0. As you can see, handlers are misplaced on 4.0. There is also a lot of noise when you move an object around con 4.0 http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-400noise.png This problem is absent on 3.4.1. I'm testing the 64 bits Linux build. From the Help → About AOO400m2(Build:9701) - Rev. 1491860 2013-06-11 15:16:25 (Tue, 11 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64 Refreshing the screen with Ctrl-Shift-R fix the second problem, but not the first one. I cannot find any related issue in bugzilla. One user on ES forums reported that boxes like font name/size are not repainting for him, but I cannot reproduce that. Regards Ricardo -- ALG I have just tested this and I'm getting the same effect using AOO 4.0.2 (buld 1489073) on Xubuntu 12.10. please don't use such a version number 4.0.2, we don't have released a 4.0.0 yet and it can be very confusing for external readers. I may have been mistaken; I remembered that as the version number and didn't check. Installing AOO 4 on another machine it said it was 4.0.0-2 during the install and perhaps that is what I misremembered. In any case the build number is the significant item. Juergen Also, with a wide line (24pt) the corners of the line away from the green handles are clipped (bevelled) perhaps by the bounding box of the selection. Also, draw a rectangle or square using the thick line. The four lines are offset from the desired position: that is the wide line is being drawn to one side of the target position, instead of being centred on it, and the top and left lines are the correct width, but the bottom and right lines are narrower. Using the sidepanel, I am only able to alter the line width using the spin buttons (up/down arrows beside the width selector. I cannot highlight ad enter a value direct into the line width selector. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed
On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:54:52 +0200 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Do you have one or two C++ extension at hand (except former Presenter Screen and former Presenation Minizer) for testing? The PDF Import extension: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/pdfimport MySQL Connector: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector My version of this last one: http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ This deserves some discussion: these two extensions are very popular so it would be better to find a solution to this before users ask for support in scores. If I understand correctly, we have now have two problems with these extensions: 1) License: both extensions have GPL (or similar) dependencies, so they cannot be formally released by this Apache project. 2) Compatibility: the STLport change makes the latest versions incompatible with OpenOffice 4.0. Can the problem be solved by simply rebuilding the two extensions in the new framework? If it isn't too hard, it's better to upload an unofficial version (meaning: released by individual developers, but not officially by the project) to the Extensions site than dealing with feature limitations and support requests. For the time being, I updated http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 with this information. Regards, Andrea. For me, the absence of the Presenter Console would be a major barrier to canverting my presentation laptops to AOO 4.0. I hope a way, even if not an official release, can be found to make this available more or less concurrently with the AOO 4.0 release. If Presentation Minimizer is being rewritten, some thought should be given towards adapting the code to provide a similar optimisation and reduction process for Writer documents; users often insert illustrations of considerably too higgh a resolution and size into Writer. A minimise process for this application wuld be useful. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: language of office program
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:28:08 -0600 Kristen Todd hd2m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Can you help me change the language of the entire office program? i just bought this used computer and its all in Spanish Thank you, Kristen Download the appropriate Language Pack from http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html and install it. It will change OpenOffice to the new chosen language. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: how to stop openoffice recovery
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:44:09 +0800 Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote: 彤_u：你好！ 如果是要停止本次恢复，则选择取消按钮。如果是要永久关闭自动恢复功能，也就是下次不再出现这个对话框，目前我还没找到方法。貌似AOO没提供这个选项。 Hi all, is there any one know how to disable the AOO recovery for ever, does AOO provides an option that can prevent displaying these dialogs next time? That is likely Tong Xuan's question in her mail, I haven't found such kind of option. Regards, Yu Zhen 2013/6/25 戴彤_u m991...@mail.chimei.org.tw 你好： 不好意思，想__教一下，如果想_P_]自_踊__臀募_功能__如何做呢？麻_┱_提供方法,_x_x! She should be advised to sort out her operating system! Recovery messages should only occur very rarely, usually after a program or system crash. Even using Windows, system crashes ought very rarely occur - from experience on the en-Forum, these seem to occur mostly with people trying to squeeze an extra few minutes from their laptop batteries and ignoring the low power messages, or from power interruptions (brownouts?) on mains powered computers. Also, she should be advised that the process of OpenOffice closing a file is slightly slower than for an uncompressed file; best to tell the computer to close the file and while it is doing this (and flushing disk write buffers), gather one's papers before powering off. USB removal protocols for the operating system should (must) be observed if working to USB device; working direct to USB memory stick also seems to be responsible for many file corruptions from OpenOffice. . -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: question
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:19:52 -0500 Joann Mitchell joann.mit...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Will your program read/open/work with WordPerfect files? Versions 3.3 and before will, as far as I know. Later versions (3.4.x and 4.0) won't, because of code licensing. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: upgrades on Linux...
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:53:13 +0200 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: I installed the RC on top of a dev version and had to use the --force-all parameter with dpkg (else broken pipe error message). Rather strange. I tried the import of my old 3.4 profile and it worked rather well. Of course the toolbars of my extensions were disabled but I could access the macros through the AOO macro dialog. The recent files list was blank however (there are entries in the former registrymodifications.xcu file). Hagar Le 14/07/2013 00:09, Kay Schenk a écrit : Has anyone installed in Linux over old 3.4 yet? Please let us know how that went if you did. Also, if you have and keep LO, what happened with that situation? Thanks. I installed AOO 4 RC over an earlier dev version (on Xubuntu 12.10) and all was well, with earlier recent files showing. No need for any fiddling. Will be trying other machines (mostly similar OS) later in the week and will advise if any difficulties. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Copy of your message to WikiAdmin: Irish Dictionary link (from Sandra)
As Regina advise in a reply to your earlier message the Irish dictionary is now at http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/irish-language-spell-checker-thesaurus-and-hyphenation-patterns Copy and paste this into your browser to download it. Note that we are all users and volunteers on ths forum; politeness is a sine qua non. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Building the PDF Import extension
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:09:31 +0200 Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, when I wrote about the pdf import addon not working on AOO4 / Win 8 I overlooked Regina's mail. The new extension works perfectly well on AOO4 running on Windows 8. Sorry for my complaint! Max Am 21.07.2013 15:43, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: OpenOffice 4 (like all previous versions) does not include the PDF Import extension. But, while in OpenOffice 3.4.x it was enough to download it from the Extensions site, Ariel wrote that he expects that a PDF Import Extension built for OpenOffice 3.x won't work except on 64-bit Linux, due to the stlport changes. PDF Import is by far the most popular extension, so I'd like that we are prepared if we receive questions. Due to a GPL dependency, it's not shipped with OpenOffice, but questions will come here so... I tried downloading the extension from http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/node/874/ and it works nicely, but I'm in the exceptional case (I tested on 64-bit Linux, the only platform where the old extension is expected to work). Do people who use other operating systems have problems? This is tracked in issue 122733. Ariel has build the extension newly. Find it in http://people.apache.org/~arielch/extensions/aoo-pdf-import/ I have tested the version aoo-pdf-import-0.0.1-windows-x86.oxt on Windows7. It works fine. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org There has been one mention today on the en-Forum of the old version of PDFImport not working on AOO 4.0. This posting is at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21t=63026 and to be helpful I have pointed the poster to the revised versions on Ariel's site at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/extensions/aoo-pdf-import/ -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Three possible issues in AOO 4.0 en_UK
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 20:41:52 -0600 F C. Costero fjcc.apa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Marco A.G.Pinto marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Yes, I tried to register in the forum but I keep getting that my signature is invalid, even with only: OpenOffice 4.0 on Windows 8 Meanwhile the file is attached here and I hope it will get through the ML. Thanks! Kind regards, Marco A.G.Pinto --- On 24/07/2013 01:34, F C. Costero wrote: The volunteers at the user forum ( http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/index.php for support in English) would be happy to help. You can upload the file there if it is under 128 KB. Best regards, Francis -- Hello Marco, I downloaded your document and I see two lines in blue and 13 lines in red, the remainder are black. Is that right? I am using version 4.0. For the signature problem on the forum, you might try saying you use version 3.4.1. I have reported the problem but I'm not sure how long it will take to fix if it is indeed a general problem. A possible workaround, pending a fix for this, is to register as using 3.4.1 and then later, using User Control Panel, edit the signature to AOO4.0. The limited registration options are intended as a crude (but effective) anti-spam device. Finally, there is a tutorial on the forum about fixing spell check problems. You do not have to be registered to view it. The link is http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74t=16512 Best regards, Francis -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AOO in the Linux distros
Now that AOO 4.0 is successfully launched, perhaps the time has come to try to get it into the Linux distros. At present if one selects OpenOffice in the distros I know, one gets LibreOffice. One should get a clear choice, not a default substitution. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Blog, forums and extension sites down
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:13 +0200 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/24 Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com Checking on http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ I can only see the blog in red, but the forums, which are in green there, do not work: General Error SQL ERROR [ mysqli ] Too many connections [1040] An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists. The extension site gives Error The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later. Error message PDOException: SQLSTATE[42000] [1226] User 'a689097admin' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource (current value: 100) in lock_may_be_available() (line 167 of /home/project-web/aoo-extensions/htdocs/includes/lock.inc). Our MySQL server was unable to serve additional requests, and we restarted the server and cleaned the cache table. While our caching system is rebuilding it might be slow. We are now investigating the root cause, that seems to be related to an application issue. We'll keep monitoring the system while working on fixing such issue. Roberto It would be of interest (but irrelevant to the immediate problem) to know if the server failure was due to a peak or overload possibly arising from the AOO4.0 release. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Legacy (3.4.1 versions)
To answer a query on the en-Forum I have been searching for an archived version of AOO 3.4.1 (Swedish). All the archived versions I find, of whatever language, are of OOo 3.3 and earlier. Perhaps I am just having a bad day (yes, from other aspects!), but if not, the 3.4.1 versions ought be made available in archives or legacy links. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Legacy (3.4.1 versions)
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:45:10 +0100 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: To answer a query on the en-Forum I have been searching for an archived version of AOO 3.4.1 (Swedish). All the archived versions I find, of whatever language, are of OOo 3.3 and earlier. Perhaps I am just having a bad day (yes, from other aspects!), but if not, the 3.4.1 versions ought be made available in archives or legacy links. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie In a reply to the thread in question, Hagar has directed the querist to http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/sv/3.4.1/ -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
OT: Coverage of 4.0 Release
Something I am finding of great interest in the coverage of the AOO 4.0 release is how reliant the commentators are on the various release documents. One wonders if any of them actually use the programs they comment upon. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website]
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:57:54 + margaux.ha...@gmail.com margaux.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjour, Je possède un nouvel ordinateur portable depuis peu. Celui ci fonctionne avec Windows 8. Ce matin j’ai télécharger la version payante d’Open Office (avec les sms par code). J’ai envoyé 4 sms qui m’ont coûté chacun 4,50€. Malgré cette version, je n’arrive toujours pas à trouver le logiciel sur mon ordinateur. Pourtant, je suis allé jusqu’au bout de l’installation. Download _only_ from www.openoffice.org/download which will redirect you to a sourceforge site. This is correct. From this site the program will not need any password or payment. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: Interview with the developers of PrOOo-Box
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:21:01 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=interview_with_the_developers_of I've reviewed it already with the PrOO-Box guys, and they provided the German translation. And the English translation as well ;-) Very interesting. will follow up when I have time. Wrong spelling: continue wrong in quote from German user in the blog. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [REVIEW] draft blog.
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:18:46 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: @Rob, can you and/or donald please make the small adjustments that makes it more understandable (and more correct English), please edit it directly that is the easiest way, and let me know when its done. To aid understanding, on first use of acronyms, put full name or explanation in brackets. ASF, AOO and PMC (particularly PMC) need explanation. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [REVIEW] draft blog.
Excellent, very personal! Two little typos: Second line: The sponsorship allows Last line: living in southern Spain -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website]
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 11:53:55 -0400 Danielle Lambert d1lamb...@videotron.ca wrote: Bonjour, J'aimerais que tout affichage dans Open Office soit en français. Je viens d'installer Open Office 4.0 et les mots sont en anglais. J'ai essayé de changer cela mais je n'y arrive pas. Pourriez-vous me dire comment mais en français s.v.p. Merci. Danielle Lambert. Vous pourriez telecharger un Language pack en français, qui changerait votre OpenOffice 4.0 en français (circa 15MO). Ou autrement, vous pourriez telecharger OpenOffice 4.0 en langue français (circa 140MO). Il n'y aurait aucune difference finalment. Telecharger seulement de www.openoffice.org/download -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [discuss] drop support for Java 5 and Java 6 for Windows
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 07:54:55 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to discuss here, if we drop the support for Java 5 and Java 6 for AOO installation on Windows. Important note for discussion: it is all about platform Windows. On my work to update the AOO build environment for Windows I recognized that it is hard to get an official JDK 1.5 (Java 5) or JDK 1.6 (Java 6) for Windows. Thus, I decided to go with JDK 1.7. The resulting AOO installation on Windows no longer works together with an JRE 6. It does not recognize an installed JRE 6 as an valid Java runtime environment. Thus, it comes into my mind to drop the support for Java 5 and Java 6 for Windows. Another perspective to consider: What leads to the most secure build environment for our binaries? I don't think we want to ever be building binaries that millions of users download, that are built on a machine with an unsupported JRE that is no longer receiving security patches. A build machine should be full patched against known security issues. And of course it should be used only for building, not for daily email and web browsing. So I think we should use JDK 1.7 for our builds. If that breaks Java 5 and Java 6 compatibility for end users, then this is unfortunate, but justifiable. We'll face a similar issue of this sort in April 2014, when Windows XP reaches End of Support by Microsoft. Do we then continue to support AOO on XP? Do we test with it? Perhaps. But we certainly would not build our binaries on XP, right? Regards, -Rob Some discussion already took place in the thread about my update on the AOO build environment for Windows. Here are the original statements: cite From Oliver: On a Windows system with JRE 6 the installation of my build does not recognize installed JRE 6 as an Java runtime environment (Menu - Tools - Option - Java). This is no problem from my point of view as our Windows users should not have JRE 6 installed anymore on their systems due to its security risks. Does somebody contradicts? From Andrea: As far as I know, this would be a significant limitation. We can now build with Java 5, 6 or 7 and the build can work with Java 5, 6 or 7 (regardless of the version used for building). Restricting this would require discussion, especially on less common platforms. From Oliver: I agree that it would be a restriction, but due to the security risks of Oracle's JRE 6 I do not think that such a restriction hurts. In contrast it would 'help' our Windows users to update their Java environment. Thus, let us start a new thread to discuss this topic. FromJürgen: we should think how relevant it is and if we have more work to support it. As Oliver pointed out, the latest security problems of Java result in probably many updated systems. I don't see that Java 5 or 6 is important in the future and we should focus on the future. /cite My arguements for a drop of the Java 5 and Java 6 support on Windows are: - JRE 5 is quite old and no longer officially available - JRE 6 is no longer officially available - JRE 6 has certain security risks and the corresponding tools on Widnows are reporting to update to JRE 7 - Simplify our work as we do not need to test under Windows JRE 5 and JRE 6 I currently see no need to support JRE 5 or JRE 6 in our future releases for Windows. Let us discuss openly more Pros and Cons on this topic. I see no objection to future AOO releases requiring at least Java 1.7; ideally I would wish it continued to support XP (I suppose Win 2K is too much to hope for?). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice Download Page
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:07:03 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/07/2013 08:43 PM, schrieb Steele, Raymond: Rob, Thanks for the response. I am looking for the 4.0 code. I clicked the link, but it is not going anywhere. Does it work for you? Yes, for me all 3 links are working, also the links for the signature and hash files. Works fine for me as well, Firefox on Windows 7. -Rob Do you get any error message or at least see any hint that could bring us forward? As alternative, what is happening when you use the Apache server? http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source/ Thanks Marcus -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:51 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Steele, Raymond Cc: us...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: OpenOffice Download Page On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Steele, Raymondraymond.ste...@lmco.com wrote: I download page does not seem to be displaying the correct information. I am looking to download the latest version 4.0 source. Can someone point me in the right direction. I am looking for the tarball. http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#source From that URL, do you see the row labeled Source tarballs? That's what you want. It is available in three different archive/compression formats. But remember, that is not the latest code. That is the code from 4.0. The most recent code is what you get out of the trunk in Subversion. Information on retrieving that is here: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html Regardsm -Rob Raymond - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Sometimes it is necessary to clear the browser's Internet cache to clear such a situation. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
