Re: Extensions site on SourceForge

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Marcus,

Am 07.02.23 um 18:06 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 07.02.23 um 12:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Does anyone have the karma to disable the review section here?
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/reviews/
>>
>> It is full of SPAM. Alternatively we need someone to clean up.
>
> I've asked SF.net for request, got it and cleaned up the reviews.
>
> And I've done the same for the templates site.

Thanks!

Matthias
>
> Thanks for your hint.
>
> Marcus
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Re: Extensions site on SourceForge

[Marcus]

Am 07.02.23 um 12:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Does anyone have the karma to disable the review section here?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/reviews/

It is full of SPAM. Alternatively we need someone to clean up.


I've asked SF.net for request, got it and cleaned up the reviews.

And I've done the same for the templates site.

Thanks for your hint.

Marcus


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Extensions site on SourceForge

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi All,

Does anyone have the karma to disable the review section here?

https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/reviews/

It is full of SPAM. Alternatively we need someone to clean up.

Regards,

   Matthias




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Re: SourceForge download

[Marcus]

Am 19.01.23 um 17:06 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

It looks like they are up again...


that is great. Luckily just a short hiccup.

Marcus




Am 19.01.23 um 16:09 schrieb Matthias Seidel:


In fact it must have happened in the last couple of hours... ;-)

Am 19.01.23 um 16:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:

I can confirm that the versions past 4.1.10 are not available. This
must be a relatively recent mishap as I was checking Source Forge a
couple weeks ago and the files were in place and accessible.



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Re: SourceForge download

[Matthias Seidel]

It looks like they are up again...

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 19.01.23 um 16:09 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi,
>
> In fact it must have happened in the last couple of hours... ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
> Am 19.01.23 um 16:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
>> I can confirm that the versions past 4.1.10 are not available. This
>> must be a relatively recent mishap as I was checking Source Forge a
>> couple weeks ago and the files were in place and accessible.
>>



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Re: SourceForge download

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 15:29:16 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> SourceForge seems to have big trouble!
> 
> All recent download files are gone. Not only for OpenOffice:
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
> 
> Can anyone confirm or is this just my (local) problem?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

Just now checked (2023-01-19-14:40 UTC): only listing up to 4.1.10 
(2021-04-29),but offering a download of 4.1.13

-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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Re: SourceForge download

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

In fact it must have happened in the last couple of hours... ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 19.01.23 um 16:05 schrieb Aivaras Stepukonis:
> I can confirm that the versions past 4.1.10 are not available. This
> must be a relatively recent mishap as I was checking Source Forge a
> couple weeks ago and the files were in place and accessible.
>



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Re: SourceForge download

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

"File uploads are under maintenance, sorry. Check back soon if you need
to make a new release."

They are working on it...

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 19.01.23 um 15:58 schrieb Czesław Wolański:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Same problem at my place.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>   Czesław
>
> Am Do., 19. Jan. 2023 um 15:29 Uhr schrieb Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> SourceForge seems to have big trouble!
>>
>> All recent download files are gone. Not only for OpenOffice:
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>>
>> Can anyone confirm or is this just my (local) problem?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
>>
>>
>>



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Re: SourceForge download

[Aivaras Stepukonis]

I can confirm that the versions past 4.1.10 are not available. This must 
be a relatively recent mishap as I was checking Source Forge a couple 
weeks ago and the files were in place and accessible.


--
Pagarbiai / Sincerely,
 Aivaras Stepukonis <mailto:astepuko...@gmail.com>

2023-01-19 16:58, Czesław Wolański rašė:

Hi Matthias,

Same problem at my place.


Regards,

   Czesław

Am Do., 19. Jan. 2023 um 15:29 Uhr schrieb Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>:


Hi all,

SourceForge seems to have big trouble!

All recent download files are gone. Not only for OpenOffice:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Can anyone confirm or is this just my (local) problem?

Regards,

Matthias

Re: SourceForge download

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi Matthias,

Same problem at my place.


Regards,

  Czesław

Am Do., 19. Jan. 2023 um 15:29 Uhr schrieb Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>:

> Hi all,
>
> SourceForge seems to have big trouble!
>
> All recent download files are gone. Not only for OpenOffice:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>
> Can anyone confirm or is this just my (local) problem?
>
> Regards,
>
>Matthias
>
>
>
>

SourceForge download

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi all,

SourceForge seems to have big trouble!

All recent download files are gone. Not only for OpenOffice:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Can anyone confirm or is this just my (local) problem?

Regards,

   Matthias





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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Marcus, Carl

> On 07/25/2022 5:06 PM WEST Marcus  wrote:
>  
> Am 25.07.22 um 16:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:

> > It seems to be fixed now.
> 
> I can see the listed item for 4.1.13 and it has already over 81,000 
> downloads.

Yes, all is back to normal, even the mirror options.

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Marcus]

Am 25.07.22 um 16:04 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Hi Pedro and all,

On 7/25/22 9:41 AM, Pedro Lino wrote:

It worries me that 4.1.13 does not show up on

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Should I report that?

Sourceforge must be changing the pages (again) because when you press 
the "Problems Downloading?" button, you no longer have the option to 
choose the mirror you want, it will simply switch to another mirror...


It seems to be fixed now.


I can see the listed item for 4.1.13 and it has already over 81,000 
downloads.


Marcus




On 07/25/2022 1:52 PM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:

Hi All,

I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.

When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
in static offline mode.
But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Pedro and all,

On 7/25/22 9:41 AM, Pedro Lino wrote:

It worries me that 4.1.13 does not show up on

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Should I report that?

Sourceforge must be changing the pages (again) because when you press the "Problems 
Downloading?" button, you no longer have the option to choose the mirror you want, 
it will simply switch to another mirror...


It seems to be fixed now.

Thanks,
Carl



Regards,
Pedro


On 07/25/2022 1:52 PM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:

  
Hi All,


I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.

When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
in static offline mode.
But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Pedro Lino]

It worries me that 4.1.13 does not show up on

https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/

Should I report that?

Sourceforge must be changing the pages (again) because when you press the 
"Problems Downloading?" button, you no longer have the option to choose the 
mirror you want, it will simply switch to another mirror...

Regards,
Pedro

> On 07/25/2022 1:52 PM WEST Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi All,
> 
> I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to 
> download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and 
> the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files 
> page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that 
> doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.
> 
> When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily 
> in static offline mode.
> But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.
> 
> Anybody else get this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl
> 
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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Dave and all,

On 7/25/22 9:14 AM, Dave wrote:


On 25/07/2022 13:52, Carl Marcum wrote:

Hi All,

I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.

When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
in static offline mode.
But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl

Going through the route you describe I get the same, but since I have my
browser set to block almost everything on SurceForge that doesn't surprise.

I suggest the "Alternative download link #2" in the right hand column of
https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html


I had already grabbed them from
https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.lua/openoffice/4.1.13/binaries/

I wonder if we should change that alternate link to use the cdn?

Thanks,
Carl


Regards
Dave


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Re: problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Dave]

On 25/07/2022 13:52, Carl Marcum wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to
> download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and
> the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files
> page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that
> doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.
> 
> When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily
> in static offline mode.
> But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.
> 
> Anybody else get this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Carl

Going through the route you describe I get the same, but since I have my
browser set to block almost everything on SurceForge that doesn't surprise.

I suggest the "Alternative download link #2" in the right hand column of
https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

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problem downloading binaries from sourceforge

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

I tried going through https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html to 
download Linux x86-64 rpm binaries and follow the binary link to SF and 
the download download doesn't start and it redirects me to the files 
page and 4.1.13 isn't listed but there is another download button that 
doesn't work and then I'm back to the files page.


When I try to login I get a 404 that it says the website is temporarily 
in static offline mode.

But it shows a tweet that says its back to full capacity.

Anybody else get this?

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: Sourceforge project activity feedback

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 04.05.21 um 16:51 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi all
>
> The Sourceforge activity is now up-to-date with version 4.1.10 ;)
> Small victories on May the Fourth!

Yes!

And thank you for using the 4th...

Matthias

>
> All the best,
> Pedro
>
>
>> On 03/30/2021 5:19 PM Marcus  wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Am 30.03.21 um 15:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 30.03.21 um 11:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>> Following up on the issue I raised about the Project Activity at
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>>> (that shows version 4.1.4 from 3 years ago)
>>>>
>>>> the answer from the Sourceforge staff was
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/24/2021 4:15 PM SourceForge.net Support & Ops 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Your activity feed has been fixed for any releases you make going 
>>>>> forward, but unfortunately, we're not able to backfill the previous 
>>>>> releases.
>>> Thanks for the heads up!
>> yes, thanks
>>
>>>> This is not what I expected but hopefully it will be fixed with the next 
>>>> release.
>>> I am OK with that, given that we are already planning on the next version.
>> If this will still not work like we would expect it, I suggest to delete 
>> it completely as IMHO the value add for the user is really low.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> On 03/02/2021 11:33 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.03.21 um 00:24 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>>>> On 03/02/2021 11:05 PM Matthias Seidel  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 14.02.21 um 17:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>>>>>> On 02/14/2021 3:36 PM Marcus  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> One question: does someone have the permissions to update the 
>>>>>>>>>> Sourceforge page?
>>>>>>>>> I don't know how to edit this. I don't find any hint for it - even as
>>>>>>>>> admin. Must be a thing of SF.net.
>>>>>>>> Can we ask them? I volunteer to do that on behalf of AOO if you don't 
>>>>>>>> have the time.
>>>>>>> Do you have a SourceForge account?
>>>>>> I have an old one but not associated to OpenOffice
>>>>> No problem, I only thought about giving you administrative rights.
>>>>>> In any case I wrote to support and they answered that they are 
>>>>>> investigating the issue. It has been a week since they answered. I will 
>>>>>> give them a few more days before asking for progress.
>>>>> Thanks, I did not find any possibility to change it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be a generated RSS feed that stopped working years ago...
>>
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Re: Sourceforge project activity feedback

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

The Sourceforge activity is now up-to-date with version 4.1.10 ;)
Small victories on May the Fourth!

All the best,
Pedro


> On 03/30/2021 5:19 PM Marcus  wrote:
> 
>  
> Am 30.03.21 um 15:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Am 30.03.21 um 11:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >>
> >> Following up on the issue I raised about the Project Activity at
> >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> >> (that shows version 4.1.4 from 3 years ago)
> >>
> >> the answer from the Sourceforge staff was
> >>
> >>> On 03/24/2021 4:15 PM SourceForge.net Support & Ops 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> Your activity feed has been fixed for any releases you make going 
> >>> forward, but unfortunately, we're not able to backfill the previous 
> >>> releases.
> > Thanks for the heads up!
> 
> yes, thanks
> 
> >> This is not what I expected but hopefully it will be fixed with the next 
> >> release.
> > 
> > I am OK with that, given that we are already planning on the next version.
> 
> If this will still not work like we would expect it, I suggest to delete 
> it completely as IMHO the value add for the user is really low.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >>> On 03/02/2021 11:33 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Am 03.03.21 um 00:24 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 03/02/2021 11:05 PM Matthias Seidel  
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Am 14.02.21 um 17:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 02/14/2021 3:36 PM Marcus  wrote:
> >>>>>>>> One question: does someone have the permissions to update the 
> >>>>>>>> Sourceforge page?
> >>>>>>> I don't know how to edit this. I don't find any hint for it - even as
> >>>>>>> admin. Must be a thing of SF.net.
> >>>>>> Can we ask them? I volunteer to do that on behalf of AOO if you don't 
> >>>>>> have the time.
> >>>>> Do you have a SourceForge account?
> >>>> I have an old one but not associated to OpenOffice
> >>> No problem, I only thought about giving you administrative rights.
> >>>> In any case I wrote to support and they answered that they are 
> >>>> investigating the issue. It has been a week since they answered. I will 
> >>>> give them a few more days before asking for progress.
> >>> Thanks, I did not find any possibility to change it.
> >>>
> >>> It seems to be a generated RSS feed that stopped working years ago...
> 
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Re: Sourceforge project activity feedback

[Marcus]

Am 30.03.21 um 15:33 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 30.03.21 um 11:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:


Following up on the issue I raised about the Project Activity at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
(that shows version 4.1.4 from 3 years ago)

the answer from the Sourceforge staff was


On 03/24/2021 4:15 PM SourceForge.net Support & Ops 
 wrote:
Your activity feed has been fixed for any releases you make going forward, but 
unfortunately, we're not able to backfill the previous releases.

Thanks for the heads up!


yes, thanks


This is not what I expected but hopefully it will be fixed with the next 
release.


I am OK with that, given that we are already planning on the next version.


If this will still not work like we would expect it, I suggest to delete 
it completely as IMHO the value add for the user is really low.


Marcus




On 03/02/2021 11:33 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

Am 03.03.21 um 00:24 schrieb Pedro Lino:



On 03/02/2021 11:05 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
Am 14.02.21 um 17:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:



On 02/14/2021 3:36 PM Marcus  wrote:

One question: does someone have the permissions to update the Sourceforge page?

I don't know how to edit this. I don't find any hint for it - even as
admin. Must be a thing of SF.net.

Can we ask them? I volunteer to do that on behalf of AOO if you don't have the 
time.

Do you have a SourceForge account?

I have an old one but not associated to OpenOffice

No problem, I only thought about giving you administrative rights.

In any case I wrote to support and they answered that they are investigating 
the issue. It has been a week since they answered. I will give them a few more 
days before asking for progress.

Thanks, I did not find any possibility to change it.

It seems to be a generated RSS feed that stopped working years ago...



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Re: Sourceforge project activity feedback

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Pedro,

Am 30.03.21 um 11:29 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi all
>
> Following up on the issue I raised about the Project Activity at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> (that shows version 4.1.4 from 3 years ago)
>
> the answer from the Sourceforge staff was 
>
>> On 03/24/2021 4:15 PM SourceForge.net Support & Ops 
>>  wrote:
>> Your activity feed has been fixed for any releases you make going forward, 
>> but unfortunately, we're not able to backfill the previous releases.
Thanks for the heads up!
> This is not what I expected but hopefully it will be fixed with the next 
> release.

I am OK with that, given that we are already planning on the next version.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> All the best,
> Pedro
>
>> On 03/02/2021 11:33 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>
>>  
>> Hi Pedro,
>>
>> Am 03.03.21 um 00:24 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>> Hi Matthias
>>>
>>>> On 03/02/2021 11:05 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>>> Am 14.02.21 um 17:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>> Hi Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/14/2021 3:36 PM Marcus  wrote:
>>>>>>> One question: does someone have the permissions to update the 
>>>>>>> Sourceforge page?
>>>>>> I don't know how to edit this. I don't find any hint for it - even as 
>>>>>> admin. Must be a thing of SF.net.
>>>>> Can we ask them? I volunteer to do that on behalf of AOO if you don't 
>>>>> have the time.
>>>> Do you have a SourceForge account?
>>> I have an old one but not associated to OpenOffice
>> No problem, I only thought about giving you administrative rights.
>>> In any case I wrote to support and they answered that they are 
>>> investigating the issue. It has been a week since they answered. I will 
>>> give them a few more days before asking for progress.
>> Thanks, I did not find any possibility to change it.
>>
>> It seems to be a generated RSS feed that stopped working years ago...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Pedro
>>>
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Sourceforge project activity feedback

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

Following up on the issue I raised about the Project Activity at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
(that shows version 4.1.4 from 3 years ago)

the answer from the Sourceforge staff was 

> On 03/24/2021 4:15 PM SourceForge.net Support & Ops 
>  wrote:
> Your activity feed has been fixed for any releases you make going forward, 
> but unfortunately, we're not able to backfill the previous releases.

This is not what I expected but hopefully it will be fixed with the next 
release.

All the best,
Pedro

> On 03/02/2021 11:33 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>  
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> Am 03.03.21 um 00:24 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> > Hi Matthias
> >
> >> On 03/02/2021 11:05 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >> Am 14.02.21 um 17:35 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> >>> Hi Marcus
> >>>
> >>>> On 02/14/2021 3:36 PM Marcus  wrote:
> >>>>> One question: does someone have the permissions to update the 
> >>>>> Sourceforge page?
> >>>> I don't know how to edit this. I don't find any hint for it - even as 
> >>>> admin. Must be a thing of SF.net.
> >>> Can we ask them? I volunteer to do that on behalf of AOO if you don't 
> >>> have the time.
> >> Do you have a SourceForge account?
> > I have an old one but not associated to OpenOffice
> No problem, I only thought about giving you administrative rights.
> > In any case I wrote to support and they answered that they are 
> > investigating the issue. It has been a week since they answered. I will 
> > give them a few more days before asking for progress.
> 
> Thanks, I did not find any possibility to change it.
> 
> It seems to be a generated RSS feed that stopped working years ago...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> > Regards,
> > Pedro
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Re: Impossible to download from sourceforge

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Joseph,


SourceForge is a long time trusted partner. We have a simple Download 
page that helps to select the Version you need.


https://www.openoffice.org/download/


Do you have issues with this page?

What Platform do you use?


All the Best

Peter


Am 26.04.20 um 19:35 schrieb Joseph MICHEL:

Hello,

Please, never put your downloads on sourceforge site. The display is
complete mess. Impossible to download from there.

Where can I download openoffice from ?


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Impossible to download from sourceforge

[Joseph MICHEL]

Hello,

Please, never put your downloads on sourceforge site. The display is
complete mess. Impossible to download from there.

Where can I download openoffice from ?


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Re: Violent PopUp window on SourceForge

[Pedro Lino]

Popups on Sourceforge are not Apache OpenOffice responsibility ;)
You can always download directly from the Apache archives if you know which 
files to get

http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/

> On October 10, 2019 at 3:13 PM Matic Smerdu 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I tried to download OpenOffice 4.1.7 from SourceForge. But you a tooo evil 
> with your Advertising.
> I closed totaly AdBlockPlus for all pages, but no difference. 
> 
> Will I never be able to get openoffice again without these violent popups?!
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Violent PopUp window on SourceForge

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I tried to download OpenOffice 4.1.7 from SourceForge. But you a tooo evil with 
your Advertising.
I closed totaly AdBlockPlus for all pages, but no difference. 

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Building while SourceForge is down

[Andrea Pescetti]

As discussed in https://s.apache.org/sHGE we can't do a clean build 
while SourceForge is down, to to the fact that oooextras.mirror (where 
we keep some libraries) is unreachable.


I've created a temporary mirror with the files I had locally and with 
some more files (especially extensions) that Matthias provided.


In a completely clean build, you will need to:

1) Change your configure options as follows (to get dmake and epm):

./configure 
--with-dmake-url=http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/oooextras.mirror/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2 
--with-epm-url=http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/oooextras.mirror/epm-3.7.tar.gz 
...


2) Change the fallback URL in external_deps.lst as follows:

-OOO_EXTRAS=https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/
+OOO_EXTRAS=http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/oooextras.mirror/

3) Change URLs in extensions.lst as follows:

 # English dictionary
 [ language=en.* || language=de || language=it ]
-f4cb089a1101cc06e49d8bbb2886e5cf 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-extensions/files/17102/38/dict-en-20171101.oxt/download 
"dict-en.oxt"
+f4cb089a1101cc06e49d8bbb2886e5cf 
http://home.apache.org/~pescetti/oooextras.mirror/aoo-extensions/dict-en.oxt 
"dict-en.oxt"


Hopefully the SourceForge outage will be resolved soon, so the above 
changes are not worth committing.


Still, once SourceForge comes back we will want to implement a more 
complete backup plan, something like the following:


1. An emergency space on an ASF server (possibly password-protected 
while it is not in use) that mirrors oooextras.mirror and is regularly 
synchronized from it.


2. A refactoring of extensions.lst that makes it possible to switch URLs 
more easily


3. A mirror of all bundled extensions (not ALL extensions, just the ones 
we bundle), as a subset of the previous mirror


Hopefully, this will allow to build when SourceForge is down (hoping 
this means "never"!) by simply changing a couple lines.


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Re: Access to SourceForge

[Marcus]

Am 21.01.2018 um 17:00 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Can one of the admins provide me access to our SourceForge page?

My SourceForge name is seidelm:
https://sourceforge.net/u/seidelm/profile/


done. Due to your usual work I've added you to the Admin group.

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Access to SourceForge

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Can one of the admins provide me access to our SourceForge page?

My SourceForge name is seidelm:
https://sourceforge.net/u/seidelm/profile/

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Re: SourceForge (new look)

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 16.01.2018 um 17:39 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
> On 1/13/18 10:21 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 11.01.2018 um 20:11 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
>>> On 1/10/18 6:30 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> Since yesterday (?) SourceForge has a complete new look:
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>>>
>>>> While I have to get used to the colors, it feels like the AOO downloads
>>>> are much more responsive now.
>>>>
>>> Glad you like it.  You can get a lot more granularity (e.g. daily or 
>>> weekly) now
>>> too.  It used to force you to weekly or monthly stats when you do broad 
>>> dates.
>>> And the countries map doesn't use Flash to show those stats any more either 
>>> :)
>> Yes, I like the new download graphics, but I thought more of the
>> download process.
>> Before it gave me a lot of time outs and "re-captcha not found". This is
>> gone now... ;-)
>>
>> Any chance to get your new logo for our website?
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>
> Sure, you can use these, either directly or save and host on your site:
>
> SVG, can be any size (recommended):
> https://sourceforge.net/;> src="https://sourceforge.net/sflogo.php?type=17_id=639433; 
> width=200>
>
> Dark 150x40
> https://sourceforge.net/;> src="https://sourceforge.net/sflogo.php?type=14_id=639433; >
>
> Light 150x40
> https://sourceforge.net/;> src="https://sourceforge.net/sflogo.php?type=16_id=639433; >

Done!

It is now on our download page:
https://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

Found a nice article about SourceForge:
http://www.itprotoday.com/software-development/github-alternative-sourceforge-vies-comeback-redesigned-site

Regards, Matthias

>
>
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Re: SourceForge (new look)

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 11.01.2018 um 20:11 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
> On 1/10/18 6:30 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Since yesterday (?) SourceForge has a complete new look:
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>
>> While I have to get used to the colors, it feels like the AOO downloads
>> are much more responsive now.
>>
> Glad you like it.  You can get a lot more granularity (e.g. daily or weekly) 
> now
> too.  It used to force you to weekly or monthly stats when you do broad dates.
> And the countries map doesn't use Flash to show those stats any more either :)

Yes, I like the new download graphics, but I thought more of the
download process.
Before it gave me a lot of time outs and "re-captcha not found". This is
gone now... ;-)

Any chance to get your new logo for our website?

Regards, Matthias

>
>
>




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Re: SourceForge (new look)

[Marcus]

Am 11.01.2018 um 20:11 schrieb Dave Brondsema:

On 1/10/18 6:30 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Since yesterday (?) SourceForge has a complete new look:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/

While I have to get used to the colors, it feels like the AOO downloads
are much more responsive now.


Glad you like it.  You can get a lot more granularity (e.g. daily or weekly) now
too.  It used to force you to weekly or monthly stats when you do broad dates.


thanks for the UI update. It's really great to see new things.


And the countries map doesn't use Flash to show those stats any more either :)


OK, *then* it is indeed faster. :-)

Marcus


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Re: SourceForge (new look)

[Dave Brondsema]

On 1/10/18 6:30 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Since yesterday (?) SourceForge has a complete new look:
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 
> While I have to get used to the colors, it feels like the AOO downloads
> are much more responsive now.
> 

Glad you like it.  You can get a lot more granularity (e.g. daily or weekly) now
too.  It used to force you to weekly or monthly stats when you do broad dates.
And the countries map doesn't use Flash to show those stats any more either :)



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SourceForge (new look)

[Matthias Seidel]

Since yesterday (?) SourceForge has a complete new look:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/

While I have to get used to the colors, it feels like the AOO downloads
are much more responsive now.

Regards, Matthias




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Re: [Request] SourceForge permissions for uploading release

[Carl Marcum]

On 12/22/2017 07:10 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Carl Marcum wrote:

Can someone with admin rights to the SourceForge account grant me
permissions so I can upload the release?


Done. Thank you and enjoy!

We now have 6 PMC members as administrators of that area, so we should 
be well covered.


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Thank you Andrea !!

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Re: [Request] SourceForge permissions for uploading release

[Andrea Pescetti]

Carl Marcum wrote:

Can someone with admin rights to the SourceForge account grant me
permissions so I can upload the release?


Done. Thank you and enjoy!

We now have 6 PMC members as administrators of that area, so we should 
be well covered.


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[Request] SourceForge permissions for uploading release

[Carl Marcum]

Can someone with admin rights to the SourceForge account grant me 
permissions so I can upload the release?


My SF username is cmarcum.

Thanks,
Carl


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Re: openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz missing on Sourceforge

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 24.11.2017 um 21:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> It seems that "openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz" is missing on Sourceforge (OOO
>> Extras):
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/
>
> Added earlier today, should be visible now.

Thanks!
I already forced a build for Linux64 and bootstrap could download all
dependencies.
Should be completed in a couple of hours.

Regards, Matthias

>
> More admins can always be added to our SourceForge area, just provide
> the SourceForge username in case.
>
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Re: openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz missing on Sourceforge

[Andrea Pescetti]

Matthias Seidel wrote:

It seems that "openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz" is missing on Sourceforge (OOO
Extras):
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/


Added earlier today, should be visible now.

More admins can always be added to our SourceForge area, just provide 
the SourceForge username in case.


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openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz missing on Sourceforge

[Matthias Seidel]

It seems that "openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz" is missing on Sourceforge (OOO
Extras):
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/

The fallback URL defined in "external_deps.lst" points to:
http://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-0.9.8zg.tar.gz

At the moment our Linux buildbots can not build AOO 4.1.5 because of
problems connecting to openssl.org (503 Service Unavailable).

Could one of the admins upload that file to Sourceforge? It should be
hosted there for future use.

Regards, Matthias





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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 13/10/2017 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Our SourceForge area is now updated with files from revision 22458 from
the dev area (this revision includes the rebuilt Linux-64 binaries).


Now updated again to revision 22553 (this one includes the rebuilt OS X 
binaries).


As expected, the only modified files were the .dmg files (SDK, full 
install sets, language packs).



Everything is still staged (unavailable to the public)


...and everything remains staged. A few hours are normally enough for 
propagation to mirrors, so this shouldn't cause delays.


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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Jim Jagielski]

Perfect! I agree that the fine-tuning, and the in-depth documentation of our
release process, is a Major Good Thing! It will make it much easier for us
to do more frequent and scheduled releases. Thx again for all everyone's
work on this!!

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 7:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 11/10/2017 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload
>> 4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not
>> publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to
>> update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.
> 
> Our SourceForge area is now updated with files from revision 22458 from the 
> dev area (this revision includes the rebuilt Linux-64 binaries).
> 
> Everything is still staged (unavailable to the public), but we can count on 
> propagation to mirrors to be completed well in advance of when the vote will 
> close.
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 11/10/2017 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload
4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not
publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to
update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.


Our SourceForge area is now updated with files from revision 22458 from 
the dev area (this revision includes the rebuilt Linux-64 binaries).


Everything is still staged (unavailable to the public), but we can count 
on propagation to mirrors to be completed well in advance of when the 
vote will close.


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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 11/10/2017 Don Lewis wrote:

That's a good way to reduce the time to the official release, but if we
had done this for RC4, then the release would have been happened before
the latest regression was reported.


Yes, the idea is not to give people another opportunity to block the 
release! Just joking of course, but indeed -as you noted- the regression 
in RC4 didn't probably affect many users. With that one fixed in RC5, 
hopefully we don't have major bugs remaining.


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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Jim Jagielski]

Sounds like a great plan! 
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area (not 
> public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). This is the 
> place where our official binaries are served from.
> 
> Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 4.1.4-RC5 
> there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not publicly accessible). 
> This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to update the download pages 
> any moment after the vote passes.
> 
> Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Don Lewis]

On 11 Oct, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
> (not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
> This is the place where our official binaries are served from.
> 
> Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
> 4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
> publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
> update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.
> 
> Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.

That's a good way to reduce the time to the official release, but if we
had done this for RC4, then the release would have been happened before
the latest regression was reported.  That report came in well after the
conclusion of the vote.


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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Marcus]

Am 11.10.2017 um 23:29 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
(not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
This is the place where our official binaries are served from.


Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.


Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.


sounds good +1.

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Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Andrea Pescetti]

I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
(not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
This is the place where our official binaries are served from.


Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.


Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.

Regards,
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Re: Contact to SourceForge

[Roberto Galoppini]

Dave Brondsema is our contact. May I ask you what is the problem you're
trying to solve?

Roberto

2017-02-15 22:52 GMT+01:00 Raphael Bircher <rbircherapa...@gmail.com>:

> Hi all
>
> I search our contact to SourceForge. Has anyone the information?
>
> Regards Raphael
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Contact to SourceForge

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Hi all

I search our contact to SourceForge. Has anyone the information?

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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Marcus]

Am 10/13/2016 07:20 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Thanks!

This should definitely go into the release instructions...


actually it is, but it's not in the right order. Therefore I've 
overlooked it yesterday. This needs to be changed for the next release. 
I've now changed the default.


Thanks

Marcus




Am 13.10.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Dave Brondsema:

On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
Matthias Seidel<matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>  wrote:


The "latest version" on
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
pointing to 4.1.2.

I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...

regards

Matthias


Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.


I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.

It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making the
folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows&  Linux.  Other types don't
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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Dave Brondsema]

On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
> Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
> 
>> The "latest version" on
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>
>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Matthias
>>
> 
> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
> 

I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.

It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making the
folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows & Linux.  Other types don't
really matter too much.


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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Matthias Seidel]

Thanks!

This should definitely go into the release instructions...


Am 13.10.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
> On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
>> Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>>
>>> The "latest version" on
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>>
>>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
>>
> I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.
>
> It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making 
> the
> folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
> release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows & Linux.  Other types 
> don't
> really matter too much.
>
>




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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Matthias Seidel]

That was not the point, the directory was visible...

But now the link is OK! ;-)


Am 13.10.2016 um 19:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
> Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
>
>> The "latest version" on
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>
>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Matthias
>>
> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
>




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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:

> The "latest version" on
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
> pointing to 4.1.2.
> 
> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
> 
> regards
> 
> Matthias
> 

Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.

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"Latest version" on Sourceforge

[Matthias Seidel]

The "latest version" on
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
pointing to 4.1.2.

I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...

regards

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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Patience! Let's see what Roberto has to say


Something has been puzzling me lately. What if this is delliberate?. I
mean, people setting up these "fake AOO" sites and then joining the SF.net
advertisers network only to hurt AOO?.

Can an individual project hosted on SF.net, choose to only display adverts
from advertisers that have a long track record of "no problems/complaints"
(a "scoring" if you prefer)? That would be a good way to remove the people
who join the sf.net advertising network with the only purpose to do these
AOO scams and hurt AOO.

Besides the "removal" of offending advertisers, is there any other legal
action that could be taken by the ASF, SF.net, or both? Can we at least
know who they are and publicly shame them? (I suppose if the adverts
networks can pay revenue to them, that they already know who they are and
whom to send the checks to).

Just thinking aloud...
FC


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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Roberto Galoppini]

Thanks for your patience, what follows it's the result of a joint meeting
with our AdOps team and  our Managing Director.

Ad Ops has paused the Google Ad Exchange ad serving on SourceForge.net's
Apache Open Office project pages. This will continue while the team
completes our review of the Ad Exchange blocking rules and controls with
the Google team.

Having said that, I wish to share with you all some background information
about the whole process to ban ads and advertisers that are not compliant
with our advertising policies.

Ad Exchange blocking rules are our first tool of control to block
advertising that is non-compliant with company policy. They are quite
effective, though not perfect solutions. Unfortunately when malicious
advertisers find a way to fool the system, they are eventually able to
inject ads that are confusing. Under the Clean Software Alliance umbrella
we're collaborating with them to prevent similar ads to get into the
marketplace, hopefully that would help them to refine their policies and
tools over time.

As a second layer of control, our ad operations department regularly
reviews the advertising from the Ad Exchange and manually removes
advertising and advertisers that bypass the technology controls. They are
at the domain and advertiser-level, and are permanent.

We also have had some success with the community feedback element to our ad
quality process that includes a community feedback form. This has been
helpful for us to improve the timeliness of removing ad violations, but it
needs end-users' input.

With regard to our direct sales and partner advertisers, they remain active
and in full compliance with SourceForge ad quality specifications and
policies, and we never had similar issues with them.

Stay tuned, I will circle back with you next week with more information on
progress with our review of policy and ad quality controls.

Thanks,

Roberto





2016-01-08 8:54 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>:

> The choice to go with sourceforge was not about stats. OpenOffice binaries
> are quite substantial. There was concern about if all the Apache mirrors
> could handle the load.
>
> Patience! Let's see what Roberto has to say. SourceForge has been generous.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Jan Høydahl <jan@cominvent.com> wrote:
> >
> > Apache’s mirrors already have the binaries, and should handle the load.
> Are we afraid of losing DL stats, is that why we stick with SF?
> >
> > --
> > Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> > Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> >
> >> 8. jan. 2016 kl. 04.46 skrev Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>:
> >>
> >> Hi Roberto,
> >>
> >> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any
> ad that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?
> >>
> >> I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it
> possible to simply block all ads?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been
> blocked.
> >>>
> >>> Roberto
> >>>
> >>> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr>:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

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> Thanks for your patience, what follows it's the result of a joint meet
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> with our AdOps team and  our Managing Director.

Is "our AdOps team" a SourceForge team, or an Apache Software Foundation
Team?

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OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[FR web forum]

Hello forum,

There are regularly messages complaining of costly or spammed OpenOffice on the 
french forum.
Because end-users don't have ad blocker, Sf.net shows links to para-sites.
The download of the genuine OpenOffice appears delayed, so the user click on 
this "fake" OpenOffice.
As for other projets, I think Apache must not accept such situation:
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2931575/open-source-tools/sourceforge-fail-itbwcw.html

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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Roberto,

Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad that 
has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?

I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it 
possible to simply block all ads?

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been blocked.
> 
> Roberto
> 
> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr>:
> 
>> 
>> Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
>> 
>> 
>> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Roberto Galoppini]

Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been blocked.

Roberto

2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :

>
> Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
>
>
> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[donaldupre .]

+1 for a divorce :)

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been blocked.
>
> Roberto
>
> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :
>
> >
> > Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
> >
> >
> >
> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Dave Fisher]

The choice to go with sourceforge was not about stats. OpenOffice binaries are 
quite substantial. There was concern about if all the Apache mirrors could 
handle the load.

Patience! Let's see what Roberto has to say. SourceForge has been generous.

Regards,
Dave

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Jan Høydahl <jan@cominvent.com> wrote:
> 
> Apache’s mirrors already have the binaries, and should handle the load. Are 
> we afraid of losing DL stats, is that why we stick with SF?
> 
> --
> Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> 
>> 8. jan. 2016 kl. 04.46 skrev Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>:
>> 
>> Hi Roberto,
>> 
>> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad 
>> that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?
>> 
>> I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it 
>> possible to simply block all ads?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been blocked.
>>> 
>>> Roberto
>>> 
>>> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad
> that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?


It's not as simple as that, some evildoers create ad buttons that show the
word "download" or a "play" button (forward triangle).

It should be really easy to fix for SF.net if they wanted:

1. CLEAR MESSAGE in bold text, +2 typeface "Your download will start
automatically, DO NOT CLICK anywhere until it has started".

2. CLEAR separation of the ads and the page information, e.g. 3-pixel thick
line/separator, with the text "ADVERTISING SPACE".

I wonder if anyone from AOO has approached them and requested they
implement something like this?. LEGIT advertisers shouldn't oppose...

FC


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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Jan Høydahl]

Apache’s mirrors already have the binaries, and should handle the load. Are we 
afraid of losing DL stats, is that why we stick with SF?

--
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Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com

> 8. jan. 2016 kl. 04.46 skrev Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>:
> 
> Hi Roberto,
> 
> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad that 
> has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?
> 
> I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it 
> possible to simply block all ads?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been blocked.
>> 
>> Roberto
>> 
>> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Jan Høydahl  wrote:

> Apache’s mirrors already have the binaries, and should handle the load.


It has been argued repeatedly that they wouldn't.

FC

Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

[FR web forum]

Sorry I miss it
http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=CHFRijTFpVuPUFM_ObYmRiZAKt_ufyAfXhoP4uALUytZ3EAEgjIHaF2D7gYCAsAqgAansitkDyAEB4AIAqAMByAObBKoEwQJP0OUDBsKK4Zd_3QwnmwjkD6NdgwmYodmRTD0Ai5eET9MgreTyW7LT8Mj6b_kUVMtCu_H1Rh2NzorWP33N-O981jE9AVGN71oF5v0bEEo-hyim7YO7GqlzzQH43A6JKp5U1ul72ghKOTYDzDGuYRzxtC55ppqdLy2rviXgys1xz-nEXGysUHzZq1T1zsDoGNt4RRAhg-Y2R1wzuttUplaCGriB8shCYugQ9nrOxszGA8vFlS4eZbKk7RF8IWbkVvfjFOV3w52zQta51Cp8ZqejLFx6u94Cbhxaw1DruwqigZfNUTmQwHV-nhKxM5-h2WU6wYt38k4aSW9gv1rfnZrRgWzUuhu9RcN6sqICu7Iy7FmGPOpQkdONiykv1nHjco6F6YY284LA-P4T0SfRUWO-QvE00u3Y9G1-hjkrJG8vmRXgBAGIBgGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=5GhH8Rdu1BO77BxV8bSSq5kN=AOD64_0Nqs9KkWQKhlyBmFEGdPF8XM8fmQ=ca-pub-4006818487458500=11=197=210=2=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle

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De: "Roberto Galoppini" <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com>
À: "dev" <dev@openoffice.apache.org>, "Cyril Beaussier" <ooofo...@free.fr>
Envoyé: Mardi 10 Novembre 2015 10:35:16
Objet: Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

Thanks for heads up, could you kindly pass me the exact link? Send me also
a direct message if you prefer.

Roberto

2015-11-10 10:23 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr>:

> Hello list,
>
> New ad to have a fake AOO:
> http://www.cjoint.com/c/EKkjxfqjgbA
> Jump to a para-site:
> h**p:/opf.goltus.com
>
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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

[Roberto Galoppini]

Thanks, I'll get it removed first thing this morning if it has not been
removed already.

Roberto

Il giovedì 10 dicembre 2015, FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr> ha scritto:

> Sorry I miss it
>
> http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=CHFRijTFpVuPUFM_ObYmRiZAKt_ufyAfXhoP4uALUytZ3EAEgjIHaF2D7gYCAsAqgAansitkDyAEB4AIAqAMByAObBKoEwQJP0OUDBsKK4Zd_3QwnmwjkD6NdgwmYodmRTD0Ai5eET9MgreTyW7LT8Mj6b_kUVMtCu_H1Rh2NzorWP33N-O981jE9AVGN71oF5v0bEEo-hyim7YO7GqlzzQH43A6JKp5U1ul72ghKOTYDzDGuYRzxtC55ppqdLy2rviXgys1xz-nEXGysUHzZq1T1zsDoGNt4RRAhg-Y2R1wzuttUplaCGriB8shCYugQ9nrOxszGA8vFlS4eZbKk7RF8IWbkVvfjFOV3w52zQta51Cp8ZqejLFx6u94Cbhxaw1DruwqigZfNUTmQwHV-nhKxM5-h2WU6wYt38k4aSW9gv1rfnZrRgWzUuhu9RcN6sqICu7Iy7FmGPOpQkdONiykv1nHjco6F6YY284LA-P4T0SfRUWO-QvE00u3Y9G1-hjkrJG8vmRXgBAGIBgGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=5GhH8Rdu1BO77BxV8bSSq5kN=AOD64_0Nqs9KkWQKhlyBmFEGdPF8XM8fmQ=ca-pub-4006818487458500=11=197=210=2=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Roberto Galoppini" <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> À: "dev" <dev@openoffice.apache.org <javascript:;>>, "Cyril Beaussier" <
> ooofo...@free.fr <javascript:;>>
> Envoyé: Mardi 10 Novembre 2015 10:35:16
> Objet: Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads
>
> Thanks for heads up, could you kindly pass me the exact link? Send me also
> a direct message if you prefer.
>
> Roberto
>
> 2015-11-10 10:23 GMT+01:00 FR web forum <ooofo...@free.fr <javascript:;>>:
>
> > Hello list,
> >
> > New ad to have a fake AOO:
> > http://www.cjoint.com/c/EKkjxfqjgbA
> > Jump to a para-site:
> > h**p:/opf.goltus.com
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RE: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Roberto, thanks for this.  Comments in-line

> -Original Message-
> From: Roberto Galoppini [mailto:roberto.galopp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 14:23
> To: dev <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]
> 
> 2015-11-21 19:28 GMT+01:00 Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>:
> 
> > [not cross-posting]
> >
> > SourceForge is valuable to the project for providing the mirror
> capacity
> > that AOO requires.  The penalty is in regard to user distrust and
> these
> > awful situations that the list and Forum folks have to contend with.
> As
> > far as our users are concerned, it is the AOO project that is
> unreliable
> > and has them need to be so cautious.
> >
> > Of course SourceForge relies on advertising revenue to offset their
> > costs.  That is to be expected.  The problem is the confusion, not the
> > advertising.  We must work with SourceForge to avoid the confusion
> with
> > regard to ad placement and prominence.
> >
> 
> With my SourceForge hat on, there are two ways we can jointly work on:
> 
> 1. Report misleading ads here, following our instructions, see
> https://goo.gl/LQFHmE

[orcmid] 

This puts us in the position of playing wack-a-moley and having to watch the 
download-started page by requesting downloads just to see what happens.  That 
we have to do that, and have no clue what another ad rotation will present, is 
not practicable.

The main way these come to our attention is when users stumbles into them.  By 
then, we may not be able to see the offender and users have been abused by the 
arrangement.  

We must also presume that a very large proportion of the AOO user community 
consists of causual, non-expert computer users.  I suspect that is an unusual 
demographic for SourceForge.  I am doubtful that the procedure at 
<http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Report%20a%20problem%20with%20Ad%20content/>
 is particularly comprehensible to the folks that are likely misled by one of 
those ads.  In particular, most of the complaints we receive are in the belief 
that it is AOO that they are dealing with.

We need SourceForge's assistance in finding a way to serve that community well. 

> 2. Supporting the Clean Software Alliance guidelines (misleading ads)
> https://goo.gl/69XhqW
[orcmid] 
I think the issue at hand is under Misleading ads, item 1.5, about calls to 
action not being clearly for the ad and not what the page is about -- an AOO 
download having been requested.  (I am not quoting because of the restrictions 
on the CSA document.)  

I believe this could be cured if (1) the "your download will begin... " 
material was more prominent and made the focal feature of the page and that (2) 
the ads were clearly separated by some sort of "you might also be interested in 
these ..." prominently labelled and separated by a clear and emphatic boundary 
from the non-advertising content of the page.
> 
> For #1 I do actively monitor our mailing-list and I make sure
> SourceForge
> removes promptly misleading or unwanted ads.
> #2 would actually help to push the whole advertising industry to agree
> on
> more strict guidelines.
> 
> It would probably help to contribute feedback to those guidelines, since
> those are in a commentary period till the end of the year.
> 
> Having been involved in the CSA works I'd be happy to draft a comment if
> we
> intend to do so.
[orcmid] 
I don't see a problem with those guidelines.  I think the issue of 
misunderstood ads can be handled on the page where the ads are accepted.  One 
rule of thumb for the page might be that the non-advertising content and text 
be larger than any "download" button and text in an adjoining ad, however that 
is assured [;<).

> 
> Roberto
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Andrea has pointed out separately that the alternative mirror system
> may
> > not be workable if even available for the demands that AOO downloads
> > represent.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dave Barton [mailto:d...@tasit.net]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:09
> > > To: Apache OpenOffice Users <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > > Cc: Apache OpenOffice Developer <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> > > Subject: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]
> > [ ... ]
> > >
> > > Is it not time to _*SERIOUSLY*_ review the distribution of our
> binaries
> > > via SourceForge?
> > >
> > > Rory O'Farrell and others dutifully expend their valuable time
> advising
> > > "unaware" users NOT to click on download links and butt

Re: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Roberto Galoppini]

2015-11-22 18:29 GMT+01:00 Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>:

> Roberto, thanks for this.  Comments in-line
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roberto Galoppini [mailto:roberto.galopp...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 14:23
> > To: dev <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]
> >
> > 2015-11-21 19:28 GMT+01:00 Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > [not cross-posting]
> > >
> > > SourceForge is valuable to the project for providing the mirror
> > capacity
> > > that AOO requires.  The penalty is in regard to user distrust and
> > these
> > > awful situations that the list and Forum folks have to contend with.
> > As
> > > far as our users are concerned, it is the AOO project that is
> > unreliable
> > > and has them need to be so cautious.
> > >
> > > Of course SourceForge relies on advertising revenue to offset their
> > > costs.  That is to be expected.  The problem is the confusion, not the
> > > advertising.  We must work with SourceForge to avoid the confusion
> > with
> > > regard to ad placement and prominence.
> > >
> >
> > With my SourceForge hat on, there are two ways we can jointly work on:
> >
> > 1. Report misleading ads here, following our instructions, see
> > https://goo.gl/LQFHmE
>
> [orcmid]
>
> This puts us in the position of playing wack-a-moley and having to watch
> the download-started page by requesting downloads just to see what
> happens.  That we have to do that, and have no clue what another ad
> rotation will present, is not practicable.
>

That is exactly why I've added #2: we need Advertising Network Providers
help. We need companies like Google to provide us with a better mouse trap,
until then the only option is the actual post mortem approach.


>
> The main way these come to our attention is when users stumbles into
> them.  By then, we may not be able to see the offender and users have been
> abused by the arrangement.
>
> We must also presume that a very large proportion of the AOO user
> community consists of causual, non-expert computer users.  I suspect that
> is an unusual demographic for SourceForge.  I am doubtful that the
> procedure at <
> http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Report%20a%20problem%20with%20Ad%20content/>
> is particularly comprehensible to the folks that are likely misled by one
> of those ads.  In particular, most of the complaints we receive are in the
> belief that it is AOO that they are dealing with.
>
> We need SourceForge's assistance in finding a way to serve that community
> well.
>

We actively take care of all complaints and issues raised here in a timely
manner, and usually computer literate friends living in the geographies
where issues are raised do help me to collect such information. For
everything else, see #2.



>
> > 2. Supporting the Clean Software Alliance guidelines (misleading ads)
> > https://goo.gl/69XhqW
> [orcmid]
> I think the issue at hand is under Misleading ads, item 1.5, about calls
> to action not being clearly for the ad and not what the page is about -- an
> AOO download having been requested.  (I am not quoting because of the
> restrictions on the CSA document.)
>
> I believe this could be cured if (1) the "your download will begin... "
> material was more prominent and made the focal feature of the page


This is a suggestion you can definitely bring on the table, the SourceForge
Community Panel seems to be the most appropriate place for raising that.




> and that (2) the ads were clearly separated by some sort of "you might
> also be interested in these ..." prominently labelled and separated by a
> clear and emphatic boundary from the non-advertising content of the page.
>

As above.


> >
> > For #1 I do actively monitor our mailing-list and I make sure
> > SourceForge
> > removes promptly misleading or unwanted ads.
> > #2 would actually help to push the whole advertising industry to agree
> > on
> > more strict guidelines.
> >
> > It would probably help to contribute feedback to those guidelines, since
> > those are in a commentary period till the end of the year.
> >
> > Having been involved in the CSA works I'd be happy to draft a comment if
> > we
> > intend to do so.
> [orcmid]
> I don't see a problem with those guidelines.  I think the issue of
> misunderstood ads can be handled on the page where the ads are accepted.
> One rule of thumb for the page might be that the non-advertising content
> and te

SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Dave Barton]

 Original Message  
From: Philippe Roig
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:25:35 +0100

> Bonjour,
> 
> Je possède un ordinateur avec Windows 10.
> 
> J’ai voulu télécharger la nouvelle mise à jour 4.1.2 mais pendant
> l’installation le téléchargement m’a imposé d’installer vidéo
> converter sans possibilité de refuser j’ai finalement accepté mais le
> téléchargement de cette application se plante et l’installation
> s’arrête.
> 
> En conclusion je ne peux pas installer la nouvelle mise à jour à
> cause de l’imposition de vidéo converter.
> 
> Cordialement
> 
> Philippe Roig

The English translation of Philippe's message is:
===
Hello,
I have a computer with Windows 10.
I wanted to download the new update 4.1.2 but during installation
download directs me to install video converter, without the possibility
of refusing I finally agreed, but downloading this application crashes
and installation stops.
Consequently I can not install the new update due to the imposition of
video converter.
Best regards
Philippe Roig
===

Is it not time to _*SERIOUSLY*_ review the distribution of our binaries
via SourceForge?

Rory O'Farrell and others dutifully expend their valuable time advising
"unaware" users NOT to click on download links and buttons after they
are redirected to the SourceForge mirror page. While commendable, this
is a "shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" approach.

No matter what efforts SourceForge make to "weed out" fraudulent and
malware links, our mailing lists and forums continue to receive a steady
stream of download problem messages from "unaware" users.

There is no way to prove this discourages individuals and organizations
from using AOO software, but continuously published reports of AOO
distributing "unwanted" and/or "malware" programs reflects badly on us
and by association the ASF.

I have no personal "gripe" against SourceForge and Roberto Galoppini's
support in this area is invaluable. However, I do not understand, or
find any reasonable explanation, why our download page does not redirect
to the ASF's own mirror network:
https://www.apache.org/mirrors/
where our binaries are already being served by 200+ mirrors around the
world.

Dave




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RE: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

[not cross-posting]

SourceForge is valuable to the project for providing the mirror capacity that 
AOO requires.  The penalty is in regard to user distrust and these awful 
situations that the list and Forum folks have to contend with.  As far as our 
users are concerned, it is the AOO project that is unreliable and has them need 
to be so cautious.

Of course SourceForge relies on advertising revenue to offset their costs.  
That is to be expected.  The problem is the confusion, not the advertising.  We 
must work with SourceForge to avoid the confusion with regard to ad placement 
and prominence. 

Andrea has pointed out separately that the alternative mirror system may not be 
workable if even available for the demands that AOO downloads represent.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Barton [mailto:d...@tasit.net]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:09
> To: Apache OpenOffice Users <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> Cc: Apache OpenOffice Developer <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> Subject: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]
[ ... ]
> 
> Is it not time to _*SERIOUSLY*_ review the distribution of our binaries
> via SourceForge?
> 
> Rory O'Farrell and others dutifully expend their valuable time advising
> "unaware" users NOT to click on download links and buttons after they
> are redirected to the SourceForge mirror page. While commendable, this
> is a "shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" approach.
> 
> No matter what efforts SourceForge make to "weed out" fraudulent and
> malware links, our mailing lists and forums continue to receive a steady
> stream of download problem messages from "unaware" users.
> 
> There is no way to prove this discourages individuals and organizations
> from using AOO software, but continuously published reports of AOO
> distributing "unwanted" and/or "malware" programs reflects badly on us
> and by association the ASF.
> 
> I have no personal "gripe" against SourceForge and Roberto Galoppini's
> support in this area is invaluable. However, I do not understand, or
> find any reasonable explanation, why our download page does not redirect
> to the ASF's own mirror network:
> https://www.apache.org/mirrors/
> where our binaries are already being served by 200+ mirrors around the
> world.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Andrea Pescetti]

Dave Barton wrote:

I do not understand, or
find any reasonable explanation, why our download page does not redirect
to the ASF's own mirror network:
https://www.apache.org/mirrors/
where our binaries are already being served by 200+ mirrors around the
world.


Leaving all the SourceForge discussion aside, one reasonable explanation 
for this last question is that the vast majority of Apache mirrors do 
NOT mirror OpenOffice: those who do are a minority. I've just tried with 
the Italian mirrors and only 2 out of 7 offer OpenOffice. Load balancers 
are broken by this incomplete mirroring: even if you try to download the 
source package http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html you often 
have to try multiple mirrors before getting one that works.


In short, the ASF mirror network is not nearly as complete and reliable 
as it seems at a first look (besides having other issues such as lack of 
stats and lack of unique download URLs).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]

[Roberto Galoppini]

2015-11-21 19:28 GMT+01:00 Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>:

> [not cross-posting]
>
> SourceForge is valuable to the project for providing the mirror capacity
> that AOO requires.  The penalty is in regard to user distrust and these
> awful situations that the list and Forum folks have to contend with.  As
> far as our users are concerned, it is the AOO project that is unreliable
> and has them need to be so cautious.
>
> Of course SourceForge relies on advertising revenue to offset their
> costs.  That is to be expected.  The problem is the confusion, not the
> advertising.  We must work with SourceForge to avoid the confusion with
> regard to ad placement and prominence.
>

With my SourceForge hat on, there are two ways we can jointly work on:

1. Report misleading ads here, following our instructions, see
https://goo.gl/LQFHmE
2. Supporting the Clean Software Alliance guidelines (misleading ads)
https://goo.gl/69XhqW

For #1 I do actively monitor our mailing-list and I make sure SourceForge
removes promptly misleading or unwanted ads.
#2 would actually help to push the whole advertising industry to agree on
more strict guidelines.

It would probably help to contribute feedback to those guidelines, since
those are in a commentary period till the end of the year.

Having been involved in the CSA works I'd be happy to draft a comment if we
intend to do so.

Roberto



>
> Andrea has pointed out separately that the alternative mirror system may
> not be workable if even available for the demands that AOO downloads
> represent.
>
>  - Dennis
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Barton [mailto:d...@tasit.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:09
> > To: Apache OpenOffice Users <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
> > Cc: Apache OpenOffice Developer <dev@openoffice.apache.org>
> > Subject: SOURCEFORGE [Was: téléchargement version 4.1.2]
> [ ... ]
> >
> > Is it not time to _*SERIOUSLY*_ review the distribution of our binaries
> > via SourceForge?
> >
> > Rory O'Farrell and others dutifully expend their valuable time advising
> > "unaware" users NOT to click on download links and buttons after they
> > are redirected to the SourceForge mirror page. While commendable, this
> > is a "shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" approach.
> >
> > No matter what efforts SourceForge make to "weed out" fraudulent and
> > malware links, our mailing lists and forums continue to receive a steady
> > stream of download problem messages from "unaware" users.
> >
> > There is no way to prove this discourages individuals and organizations
> > from using AOO software, but continuously published reports of AOO
> > distributing "unwanted" and/or "malware" programs reflects badly on us
> > and by association the ASF.
> >
> > I have no personal "gripe" against SourceForge and Roberto Galoppini's
> > support in this area is invaluable. However, I do not understand, or
> > find any reasonable explanation, why our download page does not redirect
> > to the ASF's own mirror network:
> > https://www.apache.org/mirrors/
> > where our binaries are already being served by 200+ mirrors around the
> > world.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

[Roberto Galoppini]

Thanks for heads up, could you kindly pass me the exact link? Send me also
a direct message if you prefer.

Roberto

2015-11-10 10:23 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :

> Hello list,
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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

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Hello list,

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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:01:58 +0200
Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 AOO Extensions is ok since yesterday, AOO Templates is finally back too.


Just checked on two computers.  Working correctly - thanks, Roberto.  If you 
get the SourceForge holding page you should delete your Browser cache (I had to 
on one of the test computers)


Rory

 
 
 2015-07-22 16:37 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:
 
  On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:40:17 +0200
  Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks Rory,
  
   Actually restoration of project web data is still in-progress, hope to
   finally have good news in hours. At this time 18 of 26 letters are
   complete, but service restoral will come right after data validation.
  Once
   'a' completes, we will be moving AOO project pair on to a dedicated
   delivery path, with dedicated backups.
  
   We are really sorry for the inconvenience, are we're doing our best to
  take
   it back asap.
  
   Roberto
 
  Thanks for the update, Roberto.
 
  
   2015-07-22 10:48 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:
  
This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:
   
After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO
download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed
pages previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in
  process;
if so, please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has
  been
some mixup, please could we have the former pages back?
   
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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Roberto Galoppini]

AOO Extensions is ok since yesterday, AOO Templates is finally back too.


2015-07-22 16:37 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:

 On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:40:17 +0200
 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Rory,
 
  Actually restoration of project web data is still in-progress, hope to
  finally have good news in hours. At this time 18 of 26 letters are
  complete, but service restoral will come right after data validation.
 Once
  'a' completes, we will be moving AOO project pair on to a dedicated
  delivery path, with dedicated backups.
 
  We are really sorry for the inconvenience, are we're doing our best to
 take
  it back asap.
 
  Roberto

 Thanks for the update, Roberto.

 
  2015-07-22 10:48 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:
 
   This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:
  
   After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO
   download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed
   pages previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in
 process;
   if so, please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has
 been
   some mixup, please could we have the former pages back?
  
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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Marcus]

I've just checked on the webpage. It's working for both.

Thanks to everybody at Sourceforge for bring it back online. :-)

Marcus



Am 07/24/2015 10:01 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

AOO Extensions is ok since yesterday, AOO Templates is finally back too.


2015-07-22 16:37 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrellofarr...@iol.ie:


On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:40:17 +0200
Roberto Galoppiniroberto.galopp...@gmail.com  wrote:


Thanks Rory,

Actually restoration of project web data is still in-progress, hope to
finally have good news in hours. At this time 18 of 26 letters are
complete, but service restoral will come right after data validation.

Once

'a' completes, we will be moving AOO project pair on to a dedicated
delivery path, with dedicated backups.

We are really sorry for the inconvenience, are we're doing our best to

take

it back asap.

Roberto


Thanks for the update, Roberto.



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This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:

After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO
download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed
pages previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in

process;

if so, please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has

been

some mixup, please could we have the former pages back?


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AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Rory O'Farrell]

This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:

After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO 
download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed pages 
previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in process; if so, 
please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has been some mixup, 
please could we have the former pages back?

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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Andrea Pescetti]

Rory O'Farrell wrote:

After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the
AOO download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the
detailed pages previously linked.


Links on the http://www.openoffice.org/download page are unchanged. So 
the redirection is with all likelihood a temporary workaround on the 
SourceForge side until their servers are fully restored.


I haven't checked, but the current state likely already allows us to 
update (in the OpenOffice source code, I mean) dictionaries for 4.1.2 so 
it is good news.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:35:15 +0200
Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Rory O'Farrell wrote:
  After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the
  AOO download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the
  detailed pages previously linked.
 
 Links on the http://www.openoffice.org/download page are unchanged. So 
 the redirection is with all likelihood a temporary workaround on the 
 SourceForge side until their servers are fully restored.
 
 I haven't checked, but the current state likely already allows us to 
 update (in the OpenOffice source code, I mean) dictionaries for 4.1.2 so 
 it is good news.
 
 Regards,
Andrea.
 

Thank you, Andrea. Until the full restoration I'll keep the advisory message on 
the en-Forum.
 

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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Roberto Galoppini]

Thanks Rory,

Actually restoration of project web data is still in-progress, hope to
finally have good news in hours. At this time 18 of 26 letters are
complete, but service restoral will come right after data validation. Once
'a' completes, we will be moving AOO project pair on to a dedicated
delivery path, with dedicated backups.

We are really sorry for the inconvenience, are we're doing our best to take
it back asap.

Roberto

2015-07-22 10:48 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:

 This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:

 After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO
 download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed
 pages previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in process;
 if so, please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has been
 some mixup, please could we have the former pages back?

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Re: AOO extensions/templates after SourceForge outage

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:40:17 +0200
Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Rory,
 
 Actually restoration of project web data is still in-progress, hope to
 finally have good news in hours. At this time 18 of 26 letters are
 complete, but service restoral will come right after data validation. Once
 'a' completes, we will be moving AOO project pair on to a dedicated
 delivery path, with dedicated backups.
 
 We are really sorry for the inconvenience, are we're doing our best to take
 it back asap.
 
 Roberto

Thanks for the update, Roberto.

 
 2015-07-22 10:48 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie:
 
  This is not a complaint, just a comment for information:
 
  After the recent SourceForge outage, the pages being linked off the AOO
  download page for AOO extensions and AOO templates are not the detailed
  pages previously linked.  Of course, restoration may still be in process;
  if so, please disregard this post.  But in the event that there has been
  some mixup, please could we have the former pages back?
 
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Re: Sourceforge

[imacat]

(I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
moved it to public.)

As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.

Goodbye, SourceForge.
https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/

Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy

What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/

I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.

Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/

GIMP, VLC
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/

Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/

So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.

Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
 Hi again Louis,
 
 2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Roberto,
 See these:


 http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/

 
 It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
 unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
 know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
 
 
 

 http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/

 
 It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
 after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
 there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
 can't help with that.
 
 Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
 someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
 
 Roberto
 
 

 I don’t think that seeing this as a fuss and deprecating it as
 unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
 teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.

 louis


 On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Louis,

  I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
 referring to.
  But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
 abandoned project for just some days.

  Roberto

 2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
 Roberto,


 Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
 discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
 abandonment?

 louis
 On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini 
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
 himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
 http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html

 Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
 SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
 kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
 the company decided to quit such tests for good.

 A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
 beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.

 Roberto

 2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com:

 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Just a FYI:

 https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338

 I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
 against AOO, due to our reliance on them as a major download
 partner.



 It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
 opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
 so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
 opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
 voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the
 community.   Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making
 process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely.

 -Rob







 

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Re: Sourceforge

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 22:41:19 +0800
imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:

 (I did not see any reason this discussion should go private, so I
 moved it to public.)

There is some additional information in this thread on the en-Forum
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=77517

Rory O'Farrell

 
 As far as I read, the GIMP team had never opt-in distributing
 adwares/malwares.  They did agree to share SF.net's ad profit, but not
 bundling adwares/malwares with their installers.  And SF.net did
 hijacked GIMP for Windows without authors' consent.
 
 Goodbye, SourceForge.
 https://helb.github.io/goodbye-sourceforge/
 
 Anatomy of SourceForge/GIMP controversy (from GIMP team)
 http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/anatomy-of-sourceforge-gimp-controversy
 
 What happened to Sourceforge? (from VLC developer)
 https://blog.l0cal.com/2015/06/02/what-happened-to-sourceforge/
 
 I looked into which projects SF.net hijacked, and surprisingly found
 Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Firefox, MySQL,
 PostgreSQL, Nmap, The R-project.
 
 Apache HTTPD, Apache Derby, Apache Directory Studio, Nmap, R
 http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor3/profile/
 
 GIMP, VLC
 http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor1/profile/
 
 Firefox, MySQL, PostgreSQL
 http://sourceforge.net/u/sf-editor/profile/
 
 So who's next?  Apache OpenOffice?  When will there be a new
 malware/adware-enabled Apache OpenOfffice installer?  I suppose we
 should move from SF.net to a trustworthy mirror solution.
 
 Roberto Galoppini on 2015/06/02 04:50 said:
  Hi again Louis,
  
  2015-06-01 21:47 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
  
  Hi Roberto,
  See these:
 
 
  http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/sourceforge-grabs-gimp-for-windows-account-wraps-installer-in-bundle-pushing-adware/
 
  
  It's not up-to-date, GIMP (and every other mirror project) has been
  unbundled few days ago. Just as I stated above. Also if you follow dev@ you
  know that by the facts we remove unwanted or misleading ads in hours.
  
  
  
 
  http://danluu.com/slashdot-sourceforge/
 
  
  It seems like this is not up-to-date too, as far as I know Slashdot editor
  after the week-end catched up with everything, included this. Of course
  there is as usual space for conspirancy theories, but you understand I
  can't help with that.
  
  Unless you have something else I think I've covered everything, if you or
  someone else has more questions I'll be happy to answer.
  
  Roberto
  
  
 
  I don’t think that seeing this as a fuss and deprecating it as
  unimportant or trivial (in some way) either because it’s a storm in a
  teacup or old news or misinterpreted news is useful to us or to SF.
 
  louis
 
 
  On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:31, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Louis,
 
   I'm pretty sure I've read most of it, not sure to which one you're
  referring to.
   But yes, I'm pretty sure that was done with only (very) few SourceForge
  abandoned project for just some days.
 
   Roberto
 
  2015-06-01 21:25 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com:
  Roberto,
 
 
  Surely you have also gone over the US press and now also reddit
  discussions? In which it seems as if SF is not always waiting for
  abandonment?
 
  louis
  On 01 Jun 2015, at 15:23, Roberto Galoppini 
  roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just a quick clarification on the topic. Not long time ago Simon
  himself wrote an article saying good things of the DevShare program, see
  http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610419/open-source-software/retro-repo-sourceforge-learns-new-tricks.html
 
  Having said that, recently SourceForge tested the program on few
  SourceForge projects that were abandoned by the original developers and
  kept updated by our editorial team or bots. Given the community reactions
  the company decided to quit such tests for good.
 
  A company statement clarifying it further will be made public soon,
  beyond the fuss nothing has really changed as of now.
 
  Roberto
 
  2015-06-01 20:40 GMT+02:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com:
 
  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
  Just a FYI:
 
  https://twitter.com/webmink/status/605422600970510338
 
  I fully expect that somehow this will be used as ammunition
  against AOO, due to our reliance on them as a major download
  partner.
 
 
 
  It sounds like they are recycling old news or something.  The whole
  opt-in advertising brouhaha occurred a few years ago,   We did not opt-in,
  so it was not an issue for us.  Sounds like GIMP first opted-in, then
  opted-out, but it is not clear whether as a community they spoke with one
  voice and whether it was clear to SF whose voice represented the
  community.   Apache projects have a governance model and a decision making
  process that makes that kind of misunderstanding less likely.
 
  -Rob
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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Sourceforge and commercial ads

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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

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Hi,

 I need the original link, and possibly a screenshot, thanks.

 Roberto

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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

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It has been removed, thanks for heads up.

2015-05-27 11:10 GMT+02:00 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

  I need the original link, and possibly a screenshot, thanks.

  Roberto

 2015-05-27 10:51 GMT+02:00 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr:

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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

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Thanks for heads up, I've just passed this onto our AdOps team, it will be
removed shortly.

roberto

2015-02-13 17:09 GMT+01:00 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr:

 Hello list,

 New ad to have a fake AOO.
 See: http://hpics.li/73a635e

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Re: Sourceforge and commercial ads

[Roberto Galoppini]

Just confirming it has been blocked 5 mins ago.

Thanks again,

Roberto

2015-02-13 17:29 GMT+01:00 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com:

 Thanks for heads up, I've just passed this onto our AdOps team, it will be
 removed shortly.

 roberto

 2015-02-13 17:09 GMT+01:00 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr:

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Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

[Roberto Galoppini]

Just realised I forgot to mention we have removed that in the very same
day. Thanks for heads up.

Roberto

2014-12-09 15:44 GMT+01:00 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr:

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Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

[Roberto Galoppini]

2014-11-21 7:55 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

  Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads,
 nor
  we would allow them to do that.
  Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
  that's where the problem comes from.
 

 Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame.
 I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online
 adverts network.


I was just providing some context, we are responsible for what is displayed
on our site, no matter how ads get there.

I'm happy to tell you that our AdOps have been doing a great job over the
last days, identifying new approaches that so far are working fine. We're
reviewing daily what is displayed on openoffice pages and we'll keep a
close eye on this matter.

Thanks,

Roberto





 FC

Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

[Roberto Galoppini]

2014-11-19 19:00 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com:

 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Bernard Marcelly 
 marce...@club-internet.fr
  wrote:

  I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker.
  When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying
 (in
  french) :
Searching for OpenOffice latest version
Download button
  And then the Conditions :
  chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse
  2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido


This has been removed yesterday, couple of hours after I've read this.




 IMHO this needs to stop. It should be something as simple as a section in
 the SourceForge terms of service for its advertisers banning adverts that
 impersonate or mention FOSS projects hosted on sourceforge.net, maybe
 adding something about deceptive advertising or deceptive clicking.



Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor
we would allow them to do that.
Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
that's where the problem comes from.
This week we removed three deceptive ads coming that way, but since those
advertising networks do not provide much control over the type/content of
displayed ads. We're now talking to their accounts to identify a better
approach.





 I mean it´s one thing to offer an OpenOffice add-on and another entirely
 to offer an AOO download from an external site.

 If SourceForge doesn´t put an end to this, they´re willing accomplices and
 are hurting AOO with full knowledge.


I can tell that from our GM down fixing this is a top priority, as usual
I'll let facts talk.

Roberto





 Just my $0.02
 FC


 --
 During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
 act
 Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
 Revolucionario
 - George Orwell

Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini 
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor
 we would allow them to do that.
 Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
 that's where the problem comes from.


Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame.
I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online
adverts network.

FC

SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

[Bernard Marcelly]

Hello again,
Two days later the questionable ads are still there, with a variant.

I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker.
When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in 
french) :
  Searching for OpenOffice latest version
  Download button
And then the Conditions :
chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse 2 
Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido
chapter 1. Service Premium : Les frais de service s'élèvera à 4.50 Eur par code 
+ prix sms.


SourceForge intentionally delays the real download by 5 seconds, letting the 
abused surfer the time to click on a paying service which has IMHO unacceptable 
conditions (read them).


Please, reply directly to the mailing list, not me, else the thread does not 
appear on archivers GMane and Mail Archive.


  Bernard


Date:   Nov 17, 2014 9:11:38 am
List:   org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev

The above mentioned ads has been removed from the catalog, it will disappear in 
the next hour. Sorry for the inconvenience, I've asked our AdOps team to put a 
tighter control on ads.

Roberto


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