Re: open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid
On 04/21/2015 09:40 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >We’ve done this unofficially; but why not have a page that identifies not just derivatives As best as I can determine, only one program on Android claims to be derived from the AOO code base, and nothing on iOS claims to be so derived. >with the point of identity being ODF support (and license). I quit trying to track iOS and Android apps that had ODF support, when I realized that for every app that did so, there were around 50 that made that claim, but could neither open, nor write ODF documents. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid
> On 21 Apr 2015, at 17:37, jan i wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do >> others think that way or believe otherwise? > > > Not sure how we can really address this, considering our challenges making > a new desktop release. > Thanks, Jan. Well, just by stating what you said is a start. Stating that we have limits here, in AOO, and that to pursue other ways of cracking this problem is okay and ought to be endorsed is a good next step. We’ve done this unofficially; but why not have a page that identifies not just derivatives but avenues of exploration and discovery, with the point of identity being ODF support (and license). > Rgds > jan i > >> >> louis >>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Louis Suárez-Potts > > wrote: >>> >>> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval > > wrote: > Or have you not noticed that there are > precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source >> productivity > tools to be found ready for the enterprise? >>> >>> to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is >> overwhelmingly dominated by proprietary apps sold by very large >> multinational corporations. The apps available are often "free," as in beer >> but not free as in speech. They are not open source. It does not matter if >> the operating system is Android or iOS or whatever, though there are some >> differences, at least in the marginal OSs, which represent a minute >> fraction of the total used. >>> >>> What this means is that as tablets (however imagined) are brought into >> the enterprise (public or private sector), open source is almost entirely >> absent. Yes, many apps use open source languages but so what? The UX model >> promoted by the smart, mobile device shuts out user intervention, with some >> exception, and there seems to be nothing organised that I can see that’s >> trying to change this arrangement and make it easier to create, distribute >> and even promote open source productivity apps on mobile devices. >>> >>> Yes, I am aware that tablets are falling out of popularity, but I also >> am aware that the tablet as imagined by Apple and incarnated in the iPad, >> was designed and is still envisioned as a consumer entertainment device, >> not as a work device (though that is changing) and that efforts to >> insinuate the tablet form factor into enterprise, as Microsoft has tried, >> have not succeeded. However, the mobile device is succeeding in areas where >> investment capital is less visible and it is likely to be the preferred >> mode for the billions that will be coming fresh to school, work, and other >> areas where computing devices are de rigeur (now or soon). And these users, >> in Africa, Latin America, and the rest of the world, rich or poor, will be >> using… proprietary software. >>> >>> So, although the situation on the desktop (and by this one means also >> the laptop, of course; one refers here to the UX not hardware) is generally >> not bad for open source, that’s not so for the mobile UX. I doubt very much >> that Ubuntu or Moz. will put a dent into hard proprietary wave. What would, >> however, would be mobile apps that can work smoothly with existing desktop >> productivity software installations. Like Corinthia. >>> >>> best >>> louis >> >> > > -- > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do > others think that way or believe otherwise? Not sure how we can really address this, considering our challenges making a new desktop release. Rgds jan i > > louis > > On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Louis Suárez-Potts > wrote: > > > > > >> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval > wrote: > >> > >>> Or have you not noticed that there are > >>> precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source > productivity > >>> tools to be found ready for the enterprise? > > > > to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is > overwhelmingly dominated by proprietary apps sold by very large > multinational corporations. The apps available are often "free," as in beer > but not free as in speech. They are not open source. It does not matter if > the operating system is Android or iOS or whatever, though there are some > differences, at least in the marginal OSs, which represent a minute > fraction of the total used. > > > > What this means is that as tablets (however imagined) are brought into > the enterprise (public or private sector), open source is almost entirely > absent. Yes, many apps use open source languages but so what? The UX model > promoted by the smart, mobile device shuts out user intervention, with some > exception, and there seems to be nothing organised that I can see that’s > trying to change this arrangement and make it easier to create, distribute > and even promote open source productivity apps on mobile devices. > > > > Yes, I am aware that tablets are falling out of popularity, but I also > am aware that the tablet as imagined by Apple and incarnated in the iPad, > was designed and is still envisioned as a consumer entertainment device, > not as a work device (though that is changing) and that efforts to > insinuate the tablet form factor into enterprise, as Microsoft has tried, > have not succeeded. However, the mobile device is succeeding in areas where > investment capital is less visible and it is likely to be the preferred > mode for the billions that will be coming fresh to school, work, and other > areas where computing devices are de rigeur (now or soon). And these users, > in Africa, Latin America, and the rest of the world, rich or poor, will be > using… proprietary software. > > > > So, although the situation on the desktop (and by this one means also > the laptop, of course; one refers here to the UX not hardware) is generally > not bad for open source, that’s not so for the mobile UX. I doubt very much > that Ubuntu or Moz. will put a dent into hard proprietary wave. What would, > however, would be mobile apps that can work smoothly with existing desktop > productivity software installations. Like Corinthia. > > > > best > > louis > > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid
Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do others think that way or believe otherwise? louis > On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > >> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval wrote: >> >>> Or have you not noticed that there are >>> precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source productivity >>> tools to be found ready for the enterprise? > > to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is > overwhelmingly dominated by proprietary apps sold by very large multinational > corporations. The apps available are often "free," as in beer but not free as > in speech. They are not open source. It does not matter if the operating > system is Android or iOS or whatever, though there are some differences, at > least in the marginal OSs, which represent a minute fraction of the total > used. > > What this means is that as tablets (however imagined) are brought into the > enterprise (public or private sector), open source is almost entirely absent. > Yes, many apps use open source languages but so what? The UX model promoted > by the smart, mobile device shuts out user intervention, with some exception, > and there seems to be nothing organised that I can see that’s trying to > change this arrangement and make it easier to create, distribute and even > promote open source productivity apps on mobile devices. > > Yes, I am aware that tablets are falling out of popularity, but I also am > aware that the tablet as imagined by Apple and incarnated in the iPad, was > designed and is still envisioned as a consumer entertainment device, not as a > work device (though that is changing) and that efforts to insinuate the > tablet form factor into enterprise, as Microsoft has tried, have not > succeeded. However, the mobile device is succeeding in areas where investment > capital is less visible and it is likely to be the preferred mode for the > billions that will be coming fresh to school, work, and other areas where > computing devices are de rigeur (now or soon). And these users, in Africa, > Latin America, and the rest of the world, rich or poor, will be using… > proprietary software. > > So, although the situation on the desktop (and by this one means also the > laptop, of course; one refers here to the UX not hardware) is generally not > bad for open source, that’s not so for the mobile UX. I doubt very much that > Ubuntu or Moz. will put a dent into hard proprietary wave. What would, > however, would be mobile apps that can work smoothly with existing desktop > productivity software installations. Like Corinthia. > > best > louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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> On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval wrote: > >> Or have you not noticed that there are >> precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source productivity >> tools to be found ready for the enterprise? to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is overwhelmingly dominated by proprietary apps sold by very large multinational corporations. The apps available are often "free," as in beer but not free as in speech. They are not open source. It does not matter if the operating system is Android or iOS or whatever, though there are some differences, at least in the marginal OSs, which represent a minute fraction of the total used. What this means is that as tablets (however imagined) are brought into the enterprise (public or private sector), open source is almost entirely absent. Yes, many apps use open source languages but so what? The UX model promoted by the smart, mobile device shuts out user intervention, with some exception, and there seems to be nothing organised that I can see that’s trying to change this arrangement and make it easier to create, distribute and even promote open source productivity apps on mobile devices. Yes, I am aware that tablets are falling out of popularity, but I also am aware that the tablet as imagined by Apple and incarnated in the iPad, was designed and is still envisioned as a consumer entertainment device, not as a work device (though that is changing) and that efforts to insinuate the tablet form factor into enterprise, as Microsoft has tried, have not succeeded. However, the mobile device is succeeding in areas where investment capital is less visible and it is likely to be the preferred mode for the billions that will be coming fresh to school, work, and other areas where computing devices are de rigeur (now or soon). And these users, in Africa, Latin America, and the rest of the world, rich or poor, will be using… proprietary software. So, although the situation on the desktop (and by this one means also the laptop, of course; one refers here to the UX not hardware) is generally not bad for open source, that’s not so for the mobile UX. I doubt very much that Ubuntu or Moz. will put a dent into hard proprietary wave. What would, however, would be mobile apps that can work smoothly with existing desktop productivity software installations. Like Corinthia. best louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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Hi Louis, 2015-04-19 17:17 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts : > > Thanks for the clarification and am glad you’ve been able to work with > them.. I’m also not employed by them. I do find their work and > collaboration interesting, as well, and in particular their use of > Calligra, which I’ve long touted as very interesting, indeed. (I tried to > engage Inge for a project; my inducement was the interest value of it.) I > am intrigued that they chose to use Calligra here, as opposed, say, to > WebODF (which was made by some who used to be associated—not sure?--with > KOffice, which forked, one tine being Calligra; it is now the dominant one, > I believe). I had been considering WebODF as a means of providing a measure > of ODF support on mobile devices, and that still may materialise (if I get > on it) but the Calligra instance is interesting. I’d love to learn more, > on-list or off-list. I hope others might find you explanation of interest. > I don't currently work for them, only tell that they exist. But maybe, after my retirement in two months, I will start to work on a FR localization of their extensions. We'll see. I'm not especially a fan of Mathematics and Statistics, but perhaps with a little aspirine, I could digest " Modeller" ... ;-) I don't have more details about the EuroOffice for Android developpement. Maybe it's better to contact them directly if you will to learn more on this project. I know only that calc is now available, but I haven't tested it : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.multiracio.euroofficecalc You might also (ahem) consider looking at Corinthia, which although is > quite different from Calligra and EuroOffice (the subject at hand), > nevertheless resonates with the pragmatic approach demonstrated by > EuroOffice. My interest here is not to fragment AOO but rather to expand > our horizons and to make it so that all users can really and truly be free > to use open standards on the devices they bring to work or that are foisted > upon them. > Corinthia seems interesting, but a little young to get an accurate idea of its possibilities. But the project is indeed promising. > > And, implicitly, to undo stealth vendor lock-in of the sort we are seeing > now in mobiles for enterprise. Or have you not noticed that there are > precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source productivity > tools to be found ready for the enterprise? > I don't understand this latest sentence, I'm not a nativ en speaker, I'm sorry. Regards -- gw > >
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Hi Guy, > On 19 Apr 2015, at 04:19, Guy Waterval wrote: > >>> Snip >>> >> >> Indeed. Actually, it also prompts me to reignite conversations with >> EuroOffice. That they working pragmatically is wonderful news indeed. >> > > To avoid any confusion, I'm not currently working for EuroOffice. I've > contacted them only to obtain their agreement to make some > advertising for them in Switzerland, because I'm thinking they bring also > interesting things. > Particularly, the collaboration they maintain with universities seems to me > a productive approach. > Doing so, you can develop, test and collect feedbacks at the same place. > Of course, such a collaboration is certainly not easy to start, but it can > be durable when established, which is an advantage. > > Regards > -- > gw Thanks for the clarification and am glad you’ve been able to work with them.. I’m also not employed by them. I do find their work and collaboration interesting, as well, and in particular their use of Calligra, which I’ve long touted as very interesting, indeed. (I tried to engage Inge for a project; my inducement was the interest value of it.) I am intrigued that they chose to use Calligra here, as opposed, say, to WebODF (which was made by some who used to be associated—not sure?--with KOffice, which forked, one tine being Calligra; it is now the dominant one, I believe). I had been considering WebODF as a means of providing a measure of ODF support on mobile devices, and that still may materialise (if I get on it) but the Calligra instance is interesting. I’d love to learn more, on-list or off-list. I hope others might find you explanation of interest. You might also (ahem) consider looking at Corinthia, which although is quite different from Calligra and EuroOffice (the subject at hand), nevertheless resonates with the pragmatic approach demonstrated by EuroOffice. My interest here is not to fragment AOO but rather to expand our horizons and to make it so that all users can really and truly be free to use open standards on the devices they bring to work or that are foisted upon them. And, implicitly, to undo stealth vendor lock-in of the sort we are seeing now in mobiles for enterprise. Or have you not noticed that there are precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source productivity tools to be found ready for the enterprise? -louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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Hi Louis, 2015-04-19 1:35 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts : > > > On 18 Apr 2015, at 05:46, jan i wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Guy Waterval > wrote: > > > >> 2015-04-18 10:08 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti >> >: > >> > >>> On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote: > >>> > > >> > >> > http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android > >> > > EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. > > >>> > >>> Thanks. Well, then it's clearly not an OpenOffice derivative and my > >>> question of whether to list it (the Android one, I mean) does not hold > >> any > >>> longer. > >> > >> > >> No problem. The purpose of my post was solely informative. > > > > > > thanks information is always nice to get. > > > > Indeed. Actually, it also prompts me to reignite conversations with > EuroOffice. That they working pragmatically is wonderful news indeed. > To avoid any confusion, I'm not currently working for EuroOffice. I've contacted them only to obtain their agreement to make some advertising for them in Switzerland, because I'm thinking they bring also interesting things. Particularly, the collaboration they maintain with universities seems to me a productive approach. Doing so, you can develop, test and collect feedbacks at the same place. Of course, such a collaboration is certainly not easy to start, but it can be durable when established, which is an advantage. Regards -- gw > > > >
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> On 18 Apr 2015, at 05:46, jan i wrote: > > On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Guy Waterval wrote: > >> 2015-04-18 10:08 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti > >: >> >>> On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote: >>> >> >> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >> > EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. >>> >>> Thanks. Well, then it's clearly not an OpenOffice derivative and my >>> question of whether to list it (the Android one, I mean) does not hold >> any >>> longer. >> >> >> No problem. The purpose of my post was solely informative. > > > thanks information is always nice to get. > Indeed. Actually, it also prompts me to reignite conversations with EuroOffice. That they working pragmatically is wonderful news indeed. Louis > rgds > jan i > >> >> Regards >> -- >> gw >> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Guy Waterval wrote: > 2015-04-18 10:08 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti >: > > > On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote: > > > >> > > http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android > > >>> EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. > >> > > > > Thanks. Well, then it's clearly not an OpenOffice derivative and my > > question of whether to list it (the Android one, I mean) does not hold > any > > longer. > > > No problem. The purpose of my post was solely informative. thanks information is always nice to get. rgds jan i > > Regards > -- > gw > > > > > > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
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2015-04-18 10:08 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote: > >> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >>> EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. >> > > Thanks. Well, then it's clearly not an OpenOffice derivative and my > question of whether to list it (the Android one, I mean) does not hold any > longer. No problem. The purpose of my post was solely informative. Regards -- gw > >
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On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote: http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. Thanks. Well, then it's clearly not an OpenOffice derivative and my question of whether to list it (the Android one, I mean) does not hold any longer. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 04/17/2015 12:43 PM, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > 2015-04-17 11:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > >> Guy Waterval wrote: >> >>> EuroOffice for Android is a possibility >>> >>> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >>> >> >> Is this based on the OpenOffice code? > > > EuroOffice 2014 is based on AOO code. Previous version was based on LibO. > Developpement is performed with an university (Budapest). > EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. interesting permutations...and thanks for this info We should keep our eyes on EuroOffice > > Should it be added to the porting page http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ >> (provided they want to be listed there, of course)? > > > You should perhaps contact Kázmér Koleszár for that. > > >> Did anybody try it? > > > I have tested it a couple of months ago and it seemed OK. A member of > Educoo has tested it more recently with success. > > Regards > -- - MzK “What is the point of being alive if you don't at least try to do something remarkable?” -- John Green, "An Abundance of Katherines" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 17 April 2015 at 17:53, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Louis, > > 2015-04-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts : > >> >> > On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> > >> > Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> >>> Guy Waterval wrote: >> EuroOffice for Android is a possibility >> >> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >> >>> >> >>> Is this based on the OpenOffice code? >> >> Isn’t EuroOffice just OpenOffice rebranded ...? >> > > Some examples : > > - EuroOffice can export to .docx, .xslx, .pptx. > - The EuroOffice Adaptive Interface extension provides users with a > dinamycal menusystem to EuroOffice. By changing the size of the menu item > according to the frequency it was used it makes the menu system more > transparent. (copy from > http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_ext_adaptiveinterface > ) > OK, their extensions are proprietary, but I think they make also some > development on the AOO code. > > Regards > -- > gw Well, good. But why do you think I was suggesting they don't? The point I was making was that as a product based on (or extending, say) OO , they are not really to be looked at for an Android-ready OO app. Please recall that I worked hard to bring EuroOffice into OOo and honour their contributions to the ecosystem. I'm not faulting them. I'm rather suggesting that for any code that would work well on mobiles, we do better to look at elsewhere. I suggest Corinthia. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Louis, 2015-04-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts : > > > On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > > Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>> Guy Waterval wrote: > EuroOffice for Android is a possibility > > http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android > >>> > >>> Is this based on the OpenOffice code? > >> Isn’t EuroOffice just OpenOffice rebranded ...? > Some examples : - EuroOffice can export to .docx, .xslx, .pptx. - The EuroOffice Adaptive Interface extension provides users with a dinamycal menusystem to EuroOffice. By changing the size of the menu item according to the frequency it was used it makes the menu system more transparent. (copy from http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_ext_adaptiveinterface ) OK, their extensions are proprietary, but I think they make also some development on the AOO code. Regards -- gw
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> On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> Guy Waterval wrote: EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >>> >>> Is this based on the OpenOffice code? >> Isn’t EuroOffice just OpenOffice rebranded ...? > > Maybe. But note that I was referring to the Android app, which may or may not > share code with EuroOffice (and which, by the way, I never tested). > >> "Based on" would seem an ambitious description. > > There is no policy (or need for one), but if they see themselves as an > OpenOffice derivative, and want to be listed, and have a product -the Android > app, I mean- that works to an acceptable standard of quality, I would > consider it natural to add them to the page listing the OpenOffice ports and > "distributions". I’ll let you have the last word :-) But I’m not disagreeing with you; rather, I’m suggesting that a better tree to bark at would be Corinthia. > > Regards, > Andrea. louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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Hi Andrea, 2015-04-17 11:45 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > Guy Waterval wrote: > >> EuroOffice for Android is a possibility >> >> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android >> > > Is this based on the OpenOffice code? EuroOffice 2014 is based on AOO code. Previous version was based on LibO. Developpement is performed with an university (Budapest). EuroOffice for Android is based on Calligra code. Should it be added to the porting page http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ > (provided they want to be listed there, of course)? You should perhaps contact Kázmér Koleszár for that. > Did anybody try it? I have tested it a couple of months ago and it seemed OK. A member of Educoo has tested it more recently with success. Regards -- gw > >
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Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Guy Waterval wrote: EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android Is this based on the OpenOffice code? Isn’t EuroOffice just OpenOffice rebranded ...? Maybe. But note that I was referring to the Android app, which may or may not share code with EuroOffice (and which, by the way, I never tested). "Based on" would seem an ambitious description. There is no policy (or need for one), but if they see themselves as an OpenOffice derivative, and want to be listed, and have a product -the Android app, I mean- that works to an acceptable standard of quality, I would consider it natural to add them to the page listing the OpenOffice ports and "distributions". Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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> On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Guy Waterval wrote: >> EuroOffice for Android is a possibility >> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android > > Is this based on the OpenOffice code? Should it be added to the porting page > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ (provided they want to be listed there, of > course)? Did anybody try it? Isn’t EuroOffice just OpenOffice rebranded (maybe now, LO?)? "Based on" would seem an ambitious description. If you recall, MultiRacio of Hungary, the makers and distributors of EuroOffice, have had correspondence with OpenOffice (and previously, OOo) since 2007, at least. They presented at the Barcelona OOo Conference back in 2007, where my goal was to persuade them to become positive members of the community. They in fact positively contributed and were prominent in the last OOoCon, the one held in Budapest. EuroOffice has contributed templates and, I think, extensions to the repository, and the latest on this subject was, in fact, from 24 May 2013, when Kázmér Koleszár wrote to express frustration with being unable to post updates to the extensions his company had already posted there. (Roberto Galoppini replied positively on this matter.) The site for MultiRacio has 2014, suggesting it’s up-to-date, more or less, but I would be astonished if they have a version for Android, though it’s also plausible they are working with LO on this. Easy enough just to ask Kázmér or Banai Miklós. If the desire is to have a working open source editor for text and other documents, then I would strongly suggest that people look to Corinthia Project, in Apache Incubator, as that stands the best chance of actually producing something that works and can work regardless of specific platform or environment. > > Regards, > Andrea. Best, Louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
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Guy Waterval wrote: EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android Is this based on the OpenOffice code? Should it be added to the porting page http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ (provided they want to be listed there, of course)? Did anybody try it? Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Nguyễn Đình Văn wrote: > Dear all, > I have 2 question, please ask me: > 1. Can [Apache open office] view office on Android? > There's no work in progress on this at Apache, but there are two related serious activities. * A direct port of AOO to Android has been performed, [AndrOpenoffice][1} - however, its user interface is not adapted to touch-only use and I find it usable only in desktop contexts (with a wireless keyboard and mouse) where I might as well use a laptop * A project is under way to create a specific adaptation for Android, and the project has reached the stage of a stable and useful document viewer, [LibreOffice Viewer][2] > 2. Can library of [Apache open office] convert document to image ? There is a server mode that you can use to perform a variety of conversions. There have been forum discussions [sample][3] and there's a [how-to for LibreOffice][4]. I would suggest researching this "headless mode" and then coming back with questions. HTH, Simon [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.collabora.libreoffice [3] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=66219 [4] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Using_LibreOffice_in_a_Web_Browser#Running_LibreOffice_in_server_mode
Re: Apache open office on Anroid
Hello, 2015-04-16 18:50 GMT+02:00 Nguyễn Đình Văn : > Dear all, > I have 2 question, please ask me: > 1. Can [Apache open office] view office on Android? > EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo_android Regards -- gw > >
Re: Apache open office on Anroid
Nguyễn Đình Văn wrote: I have 2 question, please ask me: 1. Can [Apache open office] view office on Android? There is a port; it's called AndrOpen Office. See http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ 1. Can library of [Apache open office] convert document to image ? Some modules support it directly, like Draw. Other modules can export to PDF and from there you can obtain any image format with the appropriate conversion tools, like ImageMagick. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache open office on Anroid
Am 04/16/2015 06:50 PM, schrieb Nguyễn Đình Văn: I have 2 question, please ask me: 1. Can [Apache open office] view office on Android? 1. Can library of [Apache open office] convert document to image ? let me answer your questions: 1. Apache OpenOffice is not working on mobile devices that have Android. However, there is a third party that has ported the software to this platform/operating system [1]. Maybe you want to give it a try. 2. It is not possible to take a single library of OpenOffice to use it to convert documents from file format X into Y. But I don't know if I have understood your question right. [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice Hope this help. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Apache open office on Anroid
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