On 10/23/2014 04:36 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:31 AM, RA Stehmann
> wrote:
>> Two thoughts:
>>
>> 1. Concerned people found it problematically that OOo depended so much
>> on SUN and later Oracle.
>>
>> So the situation under the "roof" of the Apache Software Foundation is a
Am 10/23/2014 01:36 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:31 AM, RA Stehmann
wrote:
Two thoughts:
1. Concerned people found it problematically that OOo depended so much
on SUN and later Oracle.
So the situation under the "roof" of the Apache Software Foundation is a
real progress.
This problem has indirectly to do with the lack of marketing efforts the
community has been victim off.
Without going into further rant, there should be some attention being put
to what the project is communicating right now.
On Oct 23, 2014 6:37 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:
> On 2014-10 -23, at 07:36, Rob Weir wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:31 AM, RA Stehmann
> wrote:
>> Two thoughts:
>>
>> 1. Concerned people found it problematically that OOo depended so much
>> on SUN and later Oracle.
>>
>> So the situation under the "roof" of the Apache Software Founda
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:31 AM, RA Stehmann
wrote:
> Two thoughts:
>
> 1. Concerned people found it problematically that OOo depended so much
> on SUN and later Oracle.
>
> So the situation under the "roof" of the Apache Software Foundation is a
> real progress. So we shouldn't complain that IBM
Two thoughts:
1. Concerned people found it problematically that OOo depended so much
on SUN and later Oracle.
So the situation under the "roof" of the Apache Software Foundation is a
real progress. So we shouldn't complain that IBM doesn't try to dominate
our project by creating new dependencies,
On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> 2014-10-22 20:35 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Zasuwik :
>
>> 2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt :
>>
>>> On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
For instance, here:
> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
>
> People (users) are worrying about OpenOffice status so I would like to just
> rectify some opinions floating around. Many says that IBM alone stop
> believing in OpenOffice. You confirm that IBM is doing less. Wiki is not
> updated for a
> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com]
> But the question is of course more why does it matter. If we
> do to much
> people say we control the project,
This not correspond to reality, but it is only a guess that you spread for
years.
Yes, it may be that IBM is criticized by o
On 21/10/2014 Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
...Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/LibreOffice-OpenOffice-and-rumors-of-unification
In short, your links are not very significant. I assume you are doing it
in good faith, but the above is not well-sourced (and the "disappeared"
developers all "rea
2014-10-22 20:35 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Zasuwik :
> 2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt :
>
> > On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
> > > For instance, here:
> > >
> > >> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
> > > stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active
2014-10-22 9:56 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Schmidt :
> On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
> > For instance, here:
> >
> >> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
> > stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.
> >
> > Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may b
On 21/10/14 18:00, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:
> For instance, here:
>
>> In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
> stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.
>
> Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from the
> project. OpenOffice
For instance, here:
>In other words, for some reason, development of OpenOffice has all but
stalled, while LibreOffice remains an active project.
Much of OpenOffice's recent decline may be due to IBM's withdrawal from the
project. OpenOffice 4.1.1. An anonymous informant alleges -- and web
search
> 3. So... Is it true that IBM withdrew their dev employees?
Rumor or hoax
Where did you hear this?
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Hey
I am not a party of this heated argument. I would like just ask some
questions on behalf on my country fellows.
1. I am wondering what new features will go to AOO 5.0. Wiki page still is
empty and nobody took care for it for a long time. Can users get to know
release plan at least?
https://cw
jan i wrote:
Its basicually the same discussion I experienced when I joined 2 years ago,
not much have changed..
I'm mostly ignoring this thread since it is based on a premise that is
not true. But you make some good points below, so I'll address them.
It is also a fact (SADLY) that LO and
Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:58 AM, jan i wrote:
Independent of the number of mails, It is a fact that this list, even
though called dev@, contains nearly no development discussions nor does
Hi Jan, are you having problems with your list subscription? You
might want to check the
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:58 AM, jan i wrote:
.
.
.
> Independent of the number of mails, It is a fact that this list, even
> though called dev@, contains nearly no development discussions nor does
> these discussions take place elsewhere publicly.
>
.
.
.
Hi Jan, are you having problems with y
The people "in charge" should be told that this is
> what the communities want, and make it happen.
/Larry
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From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 10:13 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject:
s below.
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From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 07:58
To: dev
Subject: Re: Concerns about the AOO community
[ ... ]
In my opinion BOTH projects have made a lot of progress on their own (NOT
by using code from the other), and that should
Reading this thread really makes me sad !
Its basicually the same discussion I experienced when I joined 2 years ago,
not much have changed.. The tone is still the same AOO is superior and LO
lives by copying our code.
In my opinion BOTH projects have made a lot of progress on their own (NOT
by u
On 02/10/2014 Roman Sausarnes wrote:
And I'm here to help, not just complain :) I'm still working out how I can
contribute...
Well, start by improving the wiki then! I agree that the building guide
can be restructured better, especially in the steps that lead you from
the main page to the ind
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Dave Barton wrote:
> Chuck Davis wrote:
> > I've seen quite a number of new people show up here lately
> > indicating interest coming from someplace. If one out of 10 of them
> > sticks and becomes a regular contributor the project is in a very
> > good position I
Chuck Davis wrote:
> I've seen quite a number of new people show up here lately
> indicating interest coming from someplace. If one out of 10 of them
> sticks and becomes a regular contributor the project is in a very
> good position I think.
Agreed.
> My observations regarding LO: 1) They've c
On 10/02/2014 11:18 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On 10/2/14, Roman Sausarnes wrote:
>> I swear I am technically savvy, but I have not found an easy link to the
>> materials you reference.
>>
>> I start at the homepage - www.openoffice.org
>>
>> I click on "I want to participate in OpenOffice"
developer training materials. My bad.
- Dennis
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From: Roman Sausarnes [mailto:romansausar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 10:26
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Concerns about the AOO community
Hello,
As a newcomer to development who is looking
And I'm here to help, not just complain :) I'm still working out how I can
contribute...
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Roman Sausarnes
wrote:
> Okay, I'm going to fess up and admit my mistake. I found the link on the
> "Building Guide" page (
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/B
On 10/2/14, Roman Sausarnes wrote:
> I swear I am technically savvy, but I have not found an easy link to the
> materials you reference.
>
> I start at the homepage - www.openoffice.org
>
> I click on "I want to participate in OpenOffice" link which takes me here:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/ge
Okay, I'm going to fess up and admit my mistake. I found the link on the
"Building Guide" page (
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO) that
takes you to the Mac OS X information.
I see it now - I don't know why I didn't see it before - I was blind to it,
except it was
I swear I am technically savvy, but I have not found an easy link to the
materials you reference.
I start at the homepage - www.openoffice.org
I click on "I want to participate in OpenOffice" link which takes me here:
http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
I clink on the New Volunteer Or
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Alain Sanguinetti
wrote:
> Le 02.10.2014 19:38, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Roman Sausarnes <
>> romansausar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Roman Sausarnes > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved in
>> one project or the other, I thought I would share my impressions.
>>
>> The Lib
Le 02.10.2014 19:38, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Roman Sausarnes
wrote:
Hello,
As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved
in
one project or the other, I thought I would share my impressions.
The LibreOffice website and developme
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Roman Sausarnes
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved in
> one project or the other, I thought I would share my impressions.
>
> The LibreOffice website and development materials seem friendlier to
> newcomers. I
Hello,
As a newcomer to development who is looking for a way to get involved in
one project or the other, I thought I would share my impressions.
The LibreOffice website and development materials seem friendlier to
newcomers. It is easier to navigate and find simple instructions for how to
get th
I've seen quite a number of new people show up here lately indicating
interest coming from someplace. If one out of 10 of them sticks and
becomes a regular contributor the project is in a very good position I
think.
My observations regarding LO:
1) They've copied some features from MS Office tha
lto:ianrly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 05:47
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Concerns about the AOO community
It would be better for the projects to merge, but the details (license,
community) clearly matter a lot to some people. If there was a better
spirit of cooperation m
It would be better for the projects to merge, but the details (license,
community) clearly matter a lot to some people. If there was a better
spirit of cooperation most of the effort could go into AOO with just some
minor things for the GPL version derived from it in an agreed way so that
that cou
On 02/10/14 01:44, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>> On G+ I have hold a conversation with Bruce Byfield and Jos from KDE
>> about the continuation of the Apache OpenOffice community and how the
>> way that the community has enter lately into a dormant
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 02/10/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
>> Since Bruce is a prominent writer for Linux Magazine I think is worth
>> to educate him on these matters
>>
>
> To answer the first false fact he mentions,
> "why has it been so quiet in the last
On 02/10/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote:
Since Bruce is a prominent writer for Linux Magazine I think is worth
to educate him on these matters
To answer the first false fact he mentions,
"why has it been so quiet in the last few weeks on the mailing lists?
Not long ago, even a day without messa
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On G+ I have hold a conversation with Bruce Byfield and Jos from KDE
> about the continuation of the Apache OpenOffice community and how the
> way that the community has enter lately into a dormant stage with very
> little traffic.
>
> Al
I see well they are still piling on if anyone interested in giving
example how this community is not 'diying'.
https://plus.google.com/u/1/107133120166691255011/posts/QUksBJiVLzd?cfem=1
Since Bruce is a prominent writer for Linux Magazine I think is worth
to educate him on these matters, and maybe
As a moderator of the dev list, I can't say I have noticed any reduction in
traffic. If anything its increasing.
On 1 October 2014 21:34, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On G+ I have hold a conversation with Bruce Byfield and Jos from KDE
> about the continuation of the Apache OpenOffice community a
On G+ I have hold a conversation with Bruce Byfield and Jos from KDE
about the continuation of the Apache OpenOffice community and how the
way that the community has enter lately into a dormant stage with very
little traffic.
Althought I do seem that is an exageration, I feel that is true that
tra
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