Question about OpenOffice Porting Guide

[liuxin]

Hi!

I am currently in the process of porting OpenOffice and came across this wiki 
article: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Lazy_Hackers_Guide_To_Porting

While following the guide, I encountered a challenge in Section 7. It seems 
that I am unable to locate the file automation/source/testtool/objtest.cxx. 
Could anyone kindly guide me on the correct location for this file? Also, is 
there any more information about porting & compiling?

Thanks!

Re: Question on Apache OpenOffice

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Both programs should install side by side because they use different 
default install locations.


However, the LibreOffice shell extensions could be overwritten by Apache 
OpenOffice, so I would suggest to do a "Custom Install" and deselect the 
"Windows Explorer Extension" found under "Optional Components".


Regards, Matthias

Am 21.08.23 um 16:10 schrieb Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming:

Subject: Question on Apache OpenOffice

Good day from Singapore,

I already have LibreOffice installed on my Windows 10 Aftershock
gaming laptop. Can I still install Apache OpenOffice?

Will there be any conflicts? Will LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice be
able to live side by side?

Thank you.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore
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Re: Question on Apache OpenOffice

[Pedro Lino]

Good evening from Portugal!

The short answer is yes. You can install OpenOffice now. Both will work.

However there will be a "fight" to be associated with normal office file types 
(such as Open Document, Word, Excel, etc)

This means that when you open a Word file with one Office (be it OpenOffice, 
LibreOffice or MS Office) it will become associated with this suite and to open 
with another one you will have to deliberately use the "Open with" option.

If this acceptable then you can use multiple Office suites. If this is 
confusing then it is better to uninstall the one(s) you don't use so much.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Pedro Lino


> On 08/21/2023 3:10 PM WEST Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
>  wrote:
> 
>  
> Subject: Question on Apache OpenOffice
> 
> Good day from Singapore,
> 
> I already have LibreOffice installed on my Windows 10 Aftershock
> gaming laptop. Can I still install Apache OpenOffice?
> 
> Will there be any conflicts? Will LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice be
> able to live side by side?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> Targeted Individual in Singapore
> Blogs:
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> https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com
> GIMP also stands for Government-Induced Medical Problems.
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Question on Apache OpenOffice

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Subject: Question on Apache OpenOffice

Good day from Singapore,

I already have LibreOffice installed on my Windows 10 Aftershock
gaming laptop. Can I still install Apache OpenOffice?

Will there be any conflicts? Will LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice be
able to live side by side?

Thank you.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore
Blogs:
https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.com
https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com
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Re: Open Office formatting question

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:37:45 + (UTC)
scrappingal  wrote:

> Hello.
> I am working in this program on an file that I brought over from MS Word.  I 
> have one field that needs to have customer color for background/fill.  Is 
> there a way to do this?
> 
> Thanks

/View /Field shadings turns on shading for _all_ fields; the colour can be 
selected by /Tools /Options /OpenOffice : Appearance, under Text Documents, 
Field shadings
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Open Office formatting question

[scrappingal]

Hello.
I am working in this program on an file that I brought over from MS Word.  I 
have one field that needs to have customer color for background/fill.  Is there 
a way to do this?

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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Keith N. McKenna]

Dave Fisher wrote:



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna  wrote:

Dave Fisher wrote:

Did you rewrite or reuse?
If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
Sent from my iPhone


Dave;

Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be 
licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides by the 
OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an Acknowledgement 
to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound right to you?


Yes

Best,
Dave


Thanks very Much Dave.

Regards
Keith



Regards
Keith



On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:


On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
"Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:


I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.

1) The ASF
2) The Project
3) The Documentation Team.
4) Listing the Individual Contributors

If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
definitely not my strong suite.

Regards
Keith


Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf

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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Did you rewrite or reuse?
>> If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
>> copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
>> The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
>> Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Dave;
> 
> Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be 
> licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides by the 
> OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an 
> Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound right to 
> you?

Yes

Best,
Dave
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
>>> "Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>>>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) The ASF
>>>> 2) The Project
>>>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>>>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>>>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be 
>>> helpful
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Keith N. McKenna]

Dave Fisher wrote:

Did you rewrite or reuse?

If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.

The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.

Sent from my iPhone


Dave;

Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be 
licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides 
by the OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an 
Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound 
right to you?


Regards
Keith



On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
"Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:


I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.

1) The ASF
2) The Project
3) The Documentation Team.
4) Listing the Individual Contributors

If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
definitely not my strong suite.

Regards
Keith


Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf

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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Keith N. McKenna]

Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
"Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:


I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.

1) The ASF
2) The Project
3) The Documentation Team.
4) Listing the Individual Contributors

If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
definitely not my strong suite.

Regards
Keith


Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf


Rory;

That was the basis for the 4th option in my original post. Thank you for 
your reply.


Regards
Keith



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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Dave Fisher]

Did you rewrite or reuse?

If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.

The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
> "Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:
> 
>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>> 
>> 1) The ASF
>> 2) The Project
>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>> 
>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
>> definitely not my strong suite.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Keith
> 
> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
> 
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
"Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:

> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
> 
> 1) The ASF
> 2) The Project
> 3) The Documentation Team.
> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
> 
> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
> definitely not my strong suite.
> 
> Regards
> Keith

Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf

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Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

[Keith N. McKenna]

I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.


1) The ASF
2) The Project
3) The Documentation Team.
4) Listing the Individual Contributors

If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
definitely not my strong suite.


Regards
Keith


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Re: Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Marcus,

Am 21.04.22 um 23:58 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 21.04.22 um 23:43 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>> On 4/21/22 4:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 21.04.22 um 14:57 schrieb Carl Marcum:
 Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after
 a search?

 [...]
>>>
>>> I did a quick search with Google (bugzilla url list_id) and found
>>> this as first hit:
>>>
>>> https://support-bugzilla.mozilla.narkive.com/jXnwYmle/purpose-of-list-id-url-parameter
>>
>>
>> So it seems the list_id may be a saved result, meaning if something
>> happens to an issue that would change the search result list it would
>> not be updated when using the list_id in a URL.
>> You have to do a new search or not include the list_id in the URL to
>> get the current results.
>> At least that is the way I'm understanding it.
>>
>> Now my questions is:
>> When we provide a URL like this in a release blog post or
>> announcement should we do a new search and use the list_id in the URL
>> so we have a snapshot in time or
>> not include it so each user gets an up-to-date result?
>>
>> For example, if an issue is changed from fixed to reopened, do we
>> want that issue to appear in the list after that or not?
>>
>> It might be easier on the database if we use the list_id at release
>> time so everyone that follows the link isn't creating a new entry as
>> long as we're okay with the snapshot in time list.
>
> as we present a software release which is fix when published, so it
> cannot be changed afterwards, I would prefer to deliver a list of its
> issues which is also fixed. So, let's include (and just keep) the URL
> paramter.

While browsing through Bugzilla I sometimes find issues that were fixed
in a certain release without knowing that an issue existed. Then I
change them to FIXED and set the milestone accordingly,

They do show up in the list now. This does not happen very often, but I
am OK with that.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> My 2ct.
>
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Re: Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Marcus]

Am 21.04.22 um 23:43 schrieb Carl Marcum:

On 4/21/22 4:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 21.04.22 um 14:57 schrieb Carl Marcum:
Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


[...]


I did a quick search with Google (bugzilla url list_id) and found this 
as first hit:


https://support-bugzilla.mozilla.narkive.com/jXnwYmle/purpose-of-list-id-url-parameter 


So it seems the list_id may be a saved result, meaning if something 
happens to an issue that would change the search result list it would 
not be updated when using the list_id in a URL.
You have to do a new search or not include the list_id in the URL to get 
the current results.

At least that is the way I'm understanding it.

Now my questions is:
When we provide a URL like this in a release blog post or announcement 
should we do a new search and use the list_id in the URL so we have a 
snapshot in time or

not include it so each user gets an up-to-date result?

For example, if an issue is changed from fixed to reopened, do we want 
that issue to appear in the list after that or not?


It might be easier on the database if we use the list_id at release time 
so everyone that follows the link isn't creating a new entry as long as 
we're okay with the snapshot in time list.


as we present a software release which is fix when published, so it 
cannot be changed afterwards, I would prefer to deliver a list of its 
issues which is also fixed. So, let's include (and just keep) the URL 
paramter.


My 2ct.

Marcus

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Re: Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Marcus and All,

On 4/21/22 4:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 21.04.22 um 14:57 schrieb Carl Marcum:
Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


[...]


I did a quick search with Google (bugzilla url list_id) and found this 
as first hit:


https://support-bugzilla.mozilla.narkive.com/jXnwYmle/purpose-of-list-id-url-parameter 



HTH

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So it seems the list_id may be a saved result, meaning if something 
happens to an issue that would change the search result list it would 
not be updated when using the list_id in a URL.
You have to do a new search or not include the list_id in the URL to get 
the current results.

At least that is the way I'm understanding it.

Now my questions is:
When we provide a URL like this in a release blog post or announcement 
should we do a new search and use the list_id in the URL so we have a 
snapshot in time or

not include it so each user gets an up-to-date result?

For example, if an issue is changed from fixed to reopened, do we want 
that issue to appear in the list after that or not?


It might be easier on the database if we use the list_id at release time 
so everyone that follows the link isn't creating a new entry as long as 
we're okay with the snapshot in time list.


Thanks,
Carl


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Re: Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Marcus]

Am 21.04.22 um 14:57 schrieb Carl Marcum:
Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


[...]


I did a quick search with Google (bugzilla url list_id) and found this 
as first hit:


https://support-bugzilla.mozilla.narkive.com/jXnwYmle/purpose-of-list-id-url-parameter

HTH

Marcus

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Bugzilla list_id parameter in URL question

[Carl Marcum]

Hi All,

Does anyone know what the list_id parameter is for in the URL after a 
search?


For example:

If I do an advanced search for issues fixed in 4.1.12 milestone I get 
this for a URL:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249822&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&resolution=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE&target_milestone=4.1.12

If I do it again I get a different list_id.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249823&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&resolution=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE&target_milestone=4.1.12

If I remove it like this and use it:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&resolution=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE&target_milestone=4.1.12
I get a new list_id again.
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?list_id=249824&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED&resolution=FIXED_WITHOUT_CODE&target_milestone=4.1.12

If I reuse a previous one with the list_id it stays the same.

Are these result lists stored in the database or something?

Best regards,
Carl


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Re: Question

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dolores,

Please ignore the mail from John.

Can you be a bit more specific about the change of margins?

Is this in Writer?

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 25.06.21 um 20:13 schrieb John Johnston:
> I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG PERSON.  I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU
> ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>
> -Original Message- From: Dolores Cheeks
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 1:04 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Question
>
> Hello,
>
> I phoned Geek Squad the protection that I have on this computer
> because the
> margin of essays have been changed.
>
> the margin has changed and they could  not correct it.  I  was told to
> contact
>  you.
>
> I want to keep the same system that i have been using because my
> essays for
> publication is in it.
>
> I do not know much about computers.
>
> Dolores cheeks
>



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Re: Question

[John Johnston]

I THINK YOU HAVE THE WRONG PERSON.  I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE 
TALKING ABOUT.


-Original Message- 
From: Dolores Cheeks

Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 1:04 PM
To: dev
Subject: Question

Hello,

I phoned Geek Squad the protection that I have on this computer because the
margin of essays have been changed.

the margin has changed and they could  not correct it.  I  was told to 
contact

 you.

I want to keep the same system that i have been using because my essays for
publication is in it.

I do not know much about computers.

Dolores cheeks 



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Question

[Dolores Cheeks]

Hello,

I phoned Geek Squad the protection that I have on this computer because the
margin of essays have been changed.

the margin has changed and they could  not correct it.  I  was told to contact
  you.  

I want to keep the same system that i have been using because my essays for
publication is in it.

I do not know much about computers. 

Dolores cheeks

Re: Question regarding build.pl

[Leonardo Foglia]

El mié., 30 de diciembre de 2020 6:25 p. m., Dylan Pham 
escribió:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I was looking at this build script main/solenv/bin/build.pl and per the
> attached screenshot, on line 2611, what does this line do?  Was there
> supposed to be a substitution operator at this line? Thanks.
>
>
> Dylan
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Re: Question regarding build.pl

[Dave Fisher]

Match - I think it is extracting the value between the single quotes into $1.

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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Dylan Pham  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was looking at this build script main/solenv/bin/build.pl and per the 
> attached screenshot, on line 2611, what does this line do?  Was there 
> supposed to be a substitution operator at this line? Thanks.
> 
> 
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Question regarding build.pl

[Dylan Pham]

Hello everyone,

I was looking at this build script main/solenv/bin/build.pl and per the
attached screenshot, on line 2611, what does this line do?  Was there
supposed to be a substitution operator at this line? Thanks.


Dylan

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Re: Question re Chromebook

[Peter Kovacs]

Latest version works. Here is the guide how to do this:
https://youtu.be/MJUUUp3ufN8

Am 1. Dezember 2020 19:52:08 MEZ schrieb Mel Earley <4308w...@gmail.com>:
>What versions of OpenOffice will work on a Chromebook OS
>Mel
>Halifax
>Canada

Question re Chromebook

[Mel Earley]

What versions of OpenOffice will work on a Chromebook OS
Mel
Halifax
Canada

Re: Application Start Page Question

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

First, let me state the obvious.
Extended tips are activated - then in the AOO Center hovering mouse over
one of the six items
(Text document, Spreadsheet etc.) displays an entry from the Help:

"The document icons each open a new document of the specified type."


AOO Help for Start Center:

"(...)
You see the Start Center when no document is open in OpenOffice.
Click an icon to open a new document or a file dialog.
The document icons each open a new document of the specified type.
1. Text Document opens OpenOffice Writer
2. Spreadsheet opens OpenOffice Calc
3. Presentation opens OpenOffice Impress
4. Drawing opens OpenOffice Draw
5. Database opens OpenOffice Base
6. Formula opens OpenOffice Math
The Templates icon opens the Templates and Documents dialog.
The Open icon presents a file open dialog."

I second Jörg's and Matthias' opinions - user comfort (UX) and logic shall
prevail.
Yet it is true that the Start Center per se does not emphasize in any way
the names of components of the Suite.
Who reads the AOO Help or activates the extended tips for good?
(should the latter become context-sensitive).

Just my 2¢.


BTW:
>
> I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out:
> please let's not spend time on menu changes,
> in LibreOffice the menu changes are an absolute nuisance,
>because you have to search all the time.
>
>>
>>Exactly! Such changes are Downgrades and certainly not an update or
upgrade!

Based on my experience with LibreOffice, I would call it "a degrade". ;‑)


Regards,
Czesław Wolański





вт, 17 нояб. 2020 г. в 23:11, Dave Fisher :

> Here’s how the Documentation project answered my question.
>
> From https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation on the lower left.
>
> Frequently Asked Questions
> • General Questions
> • Installing OpenOffice.org
> • Working with Text Documents (Writer)
> • Working with Spreadsheets (Calc)
> • Working with Drawings (Draw)
> • Working with Presentations (Impress)
> • Working with Formulae (Math)
> • Working with Databases (Base)
> • Macros
>
>
>
> > On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> Am 17.11.20 um 20:21 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org]
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
> >>>>> To: dev
> >>>>> Subject: Application Start Page Question
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application
> >>>>> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Writer is Text Document
> >>>>> Calc is Spreadsheet
> >>>>> Impress is Presentation
> >>>>> Draw is Drawing
> >>>>> Base is Database
> >>>>> Math is Formula
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.
> >>>>> I’m not suggestion change.
> >>>> But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called
> File-New (and not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text
> document. "Writer" would be the term for a new Writer window, but that
> would not correspond to the name of the menu.
> >>>> This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense
> of the menu.
> >>> Application Window vs. Document type is a good explanation. Thank you.
> >>
> >> That's also the reason why you see icons for the document type and not
> >> for the application.
> >>
> >> I always found it logical to choose "Text Document", when I wanted to
> >> create a text document. ;-)
> >
> > And on www.openoffice.org/product we have icons next to:
> > - [Writer](writer.html "Wordprocessor") a word processor you can use for
> >anything from writing a quick letter to producing an entire book.
> >  - [Calc](calc.html "Spreadsheet") a powerful spreadsheet with all the
> tools
> >you need to calculate, analyze, and present your data in numerical
> reports
> >or sizzling graphics.
> >  - [Impress](impress.html "Presentation program&qu

Re: Application Start Page Question

[Dave Fisher]

Here’s how the Documentation project answered my question.

From https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation on the lower left.

Frequently Asked Questions
• General Questions
• Installing OpenOffice.org
• Working with Text Documents (Writer)
• Working with Spreadsheets (Calc)
• Working with Drawings (Draw)
• Working with Presentations (Impress)
• Working with Formulae (Math)
• Working with Databases (Base)
• Macros



> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Am 17.11.20 um 20:21 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
>>>>> To: dev
>>>>> Subject: Application Start Page Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application 
>>>>> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Writer is Text Document
>>>>> Calc is Spreadsheet
>>>>> Impress is Presentation
>>>>> Draw is Drawing
>>>>> Base is Database
>>>>> Math is Formula
>>>>> 
>>>>> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.
>>>>> I’m not suggestion change.
>>>> But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called File-New 
>>>> (and not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text document. 
>>>> "Writer" would be the term for a new Writer window, but that would not 
>>>> correspond to the name of the menu.
>>>> This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense of the 
>>>> menu.
>>> Application Window vs. Document type is a good explanation. Thank you.
>> 
>> That's also the reason why you see icons for the document type and not
>> for the application.
>> 
>> I always found it logical to choose "Text Document", when I wanted to
>> create a text document. ;-)
> 
> And on www.openoffice.org/product we have icons next to:
> - [Writer](writer.html "Wordprocessor") a word processor you can use for
>anything from writing a quick letter to producing an entire book.
>  - [Calc](calc.html "Spreadsheet") a powerful spreadsheet with all the tools
>you need to calculate, analyze, and present your data in numerical reports
>or sizzling graphics.
>  - [Impress](impress.html "Presentation program") the fastest, most powerful
>way to create effective multimedia presentations.
>  - [Draw](draw.html "Vector drawing tool") lets you produce everything from
>simple diagrams to dynamic 3D illustrations.
>  - [Base](base.html "Database") lets you manipulate databases seamlessly.
>Create and modify tables, forms, queries, and reports, all from within
>Apache OpenOffice.
>  - [Math](math.html "Mathematical function creator") lets you create
>mathematical equations with a graphic user interface or by directly typing
>your formulas into the equation editor.
> It looks like these descriptions need some editing to more consistently tie 
> the document type with the window type.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>   Matthias
>> 
>>> 
>>>> I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out: 
>>>> please let's not spend time on menu changes, in LibreOffice the menu 
>>>> changes are an absolute nuisance, because you have to search all the time.
>>> Exactly! Such changes are Downgrades and certainly not an update or upgrade!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jörg
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> 
> 

Re: Application Start Page Question

[Dave Fisher]

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Am 17.11.20 um 20:21 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
>>>> To: dev
>>>> Subject: Application Start Page Question
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application 
>>>> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
>>>> 
>>>> Writer is Text Document
>>>> Calc is Spreadsheet
>>>> Impress is Presentation
>>>> Draw is Drawing
>>>> Base is Database
>>>> Math is Formula
>>>> 
>>>> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.
>>>> I’m not suggestion change.
>>> But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called File-New 
>>> (and not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text document. 
>>> "Writer" would be the term for a new Writer window, but that would not 
>>> correspond to the name of the menu.
>>> This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense of the 
>>> menu.
>> Application Window vs. Document type is a good explanation. Thank you.
> 
> That's also the reason why you see icons for the document type and not
> for the application.
> 
> I always found it logical to choose "Text Document", when I wanted to
> create a text document. ;-)

And on www.openoffice.org/product we have icons next to:
- [Writer](writer.html "Wordprocessor") a word processor you can use for
anything from writing a quick letter to producing an entire book.
  - [Calc](calc.html "Spreadsheet") a powerful spreadsheet with all the tools
you need to calculate, analyze, and present your data in numerical reports
or sizzling graphics.
  - [Impress](impress.html "Presentation program") the fastest, most powerful
way to create effective multimedia presentations.
  - [Draw](draw.html "Vector drawing tool") lets you produce everything from
simple diagrams to dynamic 3D illustrations.
  - [Base](base.html "Database") lets you manipulate databases seamlessly.
Create and modify tables, forms, queries, and reports, all from within
Apache OpenOffice.
  - [Math](math.html "Mathematical function creator") lets you create
mathematical equations with a graphic user interface or by directly typing
your formulas into the equation editor.
It looks like these descriptions need some editing to more consistently tie the 
document type with the window type.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>>> I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out: 
>>> please let's not spend time on menu changes, in LibreOffice the menu 
>>> changes are an absolute nuisance, because you have to search all the time.
>> Exactly! Such changes are Downgrades and certainly not an update or upgrade!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jörg
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Application Start Page Question

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave,

Am 17.11.20 um 20:21 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
>>> To: dev
>>> Subject: Application Start Page Question
>>>
>>> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application 
>>> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
>>>
>>> Writer is Text Document
>>> Calc is Spreadsheet
>>> Impress is Presentation
>>> Draw is Drawing
>>> Base is Database
>>> Math is Formula
>>>
>>> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.
>>> I’m not suggestion change.
>> But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called File-New 
>> (and not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text document. "Writer" 
>> would be the term for a new Writer window, but that would not correspond to 
>> the name of the menu.
>> This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense of the 
>> menu.
> Application Window vs. Document type is a good explanation. Thank you.

That's also the reason why you see icons for the document type and not
for the application.

I always found it logical to choose "Text Document", when I wanted to
create a text document. ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>> I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out: 
>> please let's not spend time on menu changes, in LibreOffice the menu changes 
>> are an absolute nuisance, because you have to search all the time.
> Exactly! Such changes are Downgrades and certainly not an update or upgrade!
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
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Re: Application Start Page Question

[Dave Fisher]

> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Application Start Page Question
>> 
>> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application 
>> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
>> 
>> Writer is Text Document
>> Calc is Spreadsheet
>> Impress is Presentation
>> Draw is Drawing
>> Base is Database
>> Math is Formula
>> 
>> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.
> 
>> I’m not suggestion change.
> 
> But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called File-New (and 
> not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text document. "Writer" would 
> be the term for a new Writer window, but that would not correspond to the 
> name of the menu.
> This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense of the 
> menu.

Application Window vs. Document type is a good explanation. Thank you.

> 
> I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out: 
> please let's not spend time on menu changes, in LibreOffice the menu changes 
> are an absolute nuisance, because you have to search all the time.

Exactly! Such changes are Downgrades and certainly not an update or upgrade!

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
> 
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RE: Application Start Page Question

[Jörg Schmidt]

 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:48 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Application Start Page Question
> 
> I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application 
> does not match our names for the various components of the Suite?
> 
> Writer is Text Document
> Calc is Spreadsheet
> Impress is Presentation
> Draw is Drawing
> Base is Database
> Math is Formula
> 
> The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.

> I’m not suggestion change.

But as far as "New" is concerned, the menu is completely called File-New (and 
not Window-New) and I find a new file is e.g. a text document. "Writer" would 
be the term for a new Writer window, but that would not correspond to the name 
of the menu.
This is a possible explanation of the menu, not an explicit defense of the menu.

I've read that you don't suggest any changes, but I'd like to point out: please 
let's not spend time on menu changes, in LibreOffice the menu changes are an 
absolute nuisance, because you have to search all the time.



Jörg


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Application Start Page Question

[Dave Fisher]

I’ve always wondered why the Start page of the Application does not match our 
names for the various components of the Suite?

Writer is Text Document
Calc is Spreadsheet
Impress is Presentation
Draw is Drawing
Base is Database
Math is Formula

The “New” menu has the same on the drop down.

I’m not suggestion change.

Regards,
Dave
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Re: Question about 4.1.8 Release Notes

[Marcus]

Am 12.11.20 um 08:15 schrieb Larry Gusaas:

On 2020-11-12 12:07 a.m., Czesław Wolański wrote:


Release Notes: section "Known Issues" ---> "For Mac Users"
bulleted list, last item of the 2nd level:
"Due to a known bug in Oracle Java installations of Apache OpenOffice on
OSX [...]".


In 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 Release Notes that item was the main level item 
i.e. not

under "Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x will be flagged [...]".
It was demoted as of Release Notes for AOO 4.1.5.

In 4.1.8 Release Notes (Dutch) one can see it as the main level item.

I am macOS-illiterate.  Will "a known bug in Oracle Java installations of
Apache OpenOffice on OSX [...]"
be a reason for the Gatekeeper to flag AOO? If the answer is NO, then the
item in question should be promoted.



The Java issue is not related to Gatekeeper. It is a separate issue and 
should be at the main level.


thanks for the hint, it's fixed now.

I remember that it was on the main level. Maybe it got shifted to the 
right somewhen in the preparation.


Marcus




A juxtaposition of Release Notes' excerpts is available at the following
link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QFc8eIS6hwCbzjYr3ZEOxbGSUNElw0P9/view?usp=sharing 



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Re: Question about 4.1.8 Release Notes

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2020-11-12 12:07 a.m., Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi,

Release Notes: section "Known Issues" ---> "For Mac Users"
bulleted list, last item of the 2nd level:
"Due to a known bug in Oracle Java installations of Apache OpenOffice on
OSX [...]".


In 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 Release Notes that item was the main level item i.e. not
under "Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x will be flagged [...]".
It was demoted as of Release Notes for AOO 4.1.5.

In 4.1.8 Release Notes (Dutch) one can see it as the main level item.

I am macOS-illiterate.  Will "a known bug in Oracle Java installations of
Apache OpenOffice on OSX [...]"
be a reason for the Gatekeeper to flag AOO? If the answer is NO, then the
item in question should be promoted.



The Java issue is not related to Gatekeeper. It is a separate issue and should be at the main 
level.




A juxtaposition of Release Notes' excerpts is available at the following
link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QFc8eIS6hwCbzjYr3ZEOxbGSUNElw0P9/view?usp=sharing


Regards,
Czesław



--
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Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com

"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
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Question about 4.1.8 Release Notes

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

Release Notes: section "Known Issues" ---> "For Mac Users"
bulleted list, last item of the 2nd level:
"Due to a known bug in Oracle Java installations of Apache OpenOffice on
OSX [...]".


In 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 Release Notes that item was the main level item i.e. not
under "Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x will be flagged [...]".
It was demoted as of Release Notes for AOO 4.1.5.

In 4.1.8 Release Notes (Dutch) one can see it as the main level item.

I am macOS-illiterate.  Will "a known bug in Oracle Java installations of
Apache OpenOffice on OSX [...]"
be a reason for the Gatekeeper to flag AOO? If the answer is NO, then the
item in question should be promoted.

A juxtaposition of Release Notes' excerpts is available at the following
link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QFc8eIS6hwCbzjYr3ZEOxbGSUNElw0P9/view?usp=sharing


Regards,
Czesław

Re: Hello, I have a question . . .

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Peter,

The latest release is 4.1.7

I am not sure what you tried. Have you tried Mark the section you want 
to copy, then Menue Edit pick Copy. Open Your Email Application and 
insert there as you are used by the email application.


As an Alternative instead going through the menue you can use 
Control-Button and C, pressing both at the same time and press then 
Control V in the email application.


You can ask this kind of question on users. There you get a quicker answer.

All the Best

Peter

Am 24.09.20 um 05:20 schrieb PETER LOVE:

Hello, Dev:

I have still another question concerning Open Office version 4.11 ( not quite 
sure of correct version but it's still pretty much the latest )
 I'm trying to copy only a section of a document I wish to send to somebody, but when 
I copy and what I'm trying to duplicate shows up in 'blue' ( i.e. the part I'm trying to 
copy ) I get out of whatever document I'm using, get out of Open Office and get into my 
email program and initiate a message to whomever and hit "attach files" and 
then ( bang! ) the entire thing --- NOT just the section or portion I'm trying to copy 
--- shows up, appears. So how do I copy only a small part? and not the entire thing or 
document?

Thank you.

Peter Love


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Hello, I have a question . . .

[PETER LOVE]

Hello, Dev:

I have still another question concerning Open Office version 4.11 ( not quite 
sure of correct version but it's still pretty much the latest ) 
 I'm trying to copy only a section of a document I wish to send to 
somebody, but when I copy and what I'm trying to duplicate shows up in 'blue' ( 
i.e. the part I'm trying to copy ) I get out of whatever document I'm using, 
get out of Open Office and get into my email program and initiate a message to 
whomever and hit "attach files" and then ( bang! ) the entire thing --- NOT 
just the section or portion I'm trying to copy --- shows up, appears. So how do 
I copy only a small part? and not the entire thing or document? 

Thank you. 

Peter Love 

Re: OS/2 (Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi Matthias,

had a little time: [1] refers to the OS/2 EDM magazine about Object  Rexx which 
got introduced with
OS/2 Warp by IBM.

[1]  contains a link [2] to a brief article (10 pages) I wrote about 15 years 
ago which attempts to
introduce the Rexx language to newbies and Open Object Rexx.

[2] has an example that demonstrates how one would create a swriter document in 
seven lines of code
from ooRexx (from outside of OOo). That sample still runs unchanged today, 
though ooRexx and
BSF4ooRexx have seen a *lot* of development since 2006.

Cheers,

---rony

P.S.: I have been employing ooRexx and BSF4ooRexx successfully on a business 
administration
university for 20 years, where it is possible with this mix to introduce 
interested BA students to
programming (literally from zero knowledge to Windows OLE programming to Java 
programming on all
supported platforms) within a *single* semester with a weekly teaching load of 
four hours, believe
it or not (8 ECTS in total). This is only possible because Rexx/ooRexx are 
quite easy to learn due
to the syntax, yet powerful enough to do many, many interesting things...

[1] "Object REXX": 
[2] " Resurrecting REXX, Introducing Object Rexx":



On 14.07.2020 17:00, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> On 14.07.2020 16:48, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Rony,
>>
>> Am 14.07.20 um 16:34 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>
>>> On 14.07.2020 16:14, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
> Hi there,
>
> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against 
> the MacOS Developer Build
> (4.2) to test whether  
> is fixed.
>
> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO 
> (and LO) failed I looked
> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
> resides in
> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
> whereas it used to be
> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
 As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
 I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.
>>> Yes, this is o.k. (not the problem).
>>>
>>> The problem is that in the "Contents" directory there is no "program" 
>>> subdirectory in the developer
>>> build, rather it is named "MacOS" instead.
>> I realized that now (see my other mail)
>>> The installation script assumes on the Mac that "soffice" and "unoinfo" are 
>>> located in
>>> "/Applications/OpenOffice[ Developer Build].app/Contents/program". (If this 
>>> is intentional I would
>>> change the script accordingly.)
>> I don't think that was intentional. Let's wait for a "normal" build.
 Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
 (the same would apply to a Beta Build)

 @Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?

 BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first 
 "language" on OS/2.
>>> You would be surprised! ;-)
>>>
>>> Actually "Object-oriented Rexx" was created as an object-oriented 
>>> replacement of "Rexx" for OS/2
>>> Warp by IBM. The Windows version generated quite some income for IBM when 
>>> their user base switched
>>> from OS/2 to Windows and learned that there were tons of Rexx programs that 
>>> also needed to run on
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> Later IBM handed the source code over to the non-profit SIG "Rexx Language 
>>> Association" which then
>>> released an open-source version of it under the name "Open Object Rexx" 
>>> (ooRexx) in 2005. Ever since
>>> then it got steadily improved and the current 5.0 (officially in beta but 
>>> in release quality)
>>> release is imminent.
>>>
>>> The OpenOffice plugin of ooRexx was created using the Java-bridge 
>>> "BSF4ooRexx" (Apache BSF and
>>> ooRexx), which also has its roots in OS/2 believe it or not: Java played an 
>>> important role for OS/2
>>> and portable (even GUI) applications became possible with the Java bridge 
>>> such that Rexx programs
>>> developed under OS/2 ran unchanged on Windows (and vice versa).
>>>
>>> Today the Java bridge BSF4ooRexx is bi-directionally complete, i.e. Java 
>>> classes and Java objects
>>> are camouflaged as ooRexx classes and objects, sending them ooRexx 
>>> messages. On the other hand Java
>>> code can invoke ooRexx methods without realizing that the implementation is 
>>> done in ooRexx (e.g.
>>> when extending Java classes in ooRexx or implementing abstract Java methods 
>>> in ooRexx).
>>>
>>> Like with Rexx ooRexx is a dynamically typed, interpreted language with a 
>>> "human-centric" syntax,
>>> such that it can be learned quite fast and programs can be understood quite 
>>> easily.
>

Re: Question ad Groovy implementation (Re: Beanshell Scripting

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi Carl,

On 15.07.2020 01:49, Carl Marcum wrote:
> Hi Rony,
>
> On 7/14/20 10:11 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>>
... cut ...
>
> I'm planning a more formal announcement as soon as I finish the Readme's for 
> a couple of these but...
>
> There are a few inter-dependent projects.
>
> The Groovy UNO Extension [1] extends the Java UNO API's with convenience 
> methods for Groovy
> Extensions and Client apps.
> It's documentation is here [2].
> It uses Groovy's Extension mechanism to extend the UNO API's.
>
> The OpenOffice-Groovy [3] is the OpenOffice extension to add Groovy to the 
> scripting framework. It
> is heavily influenced by the built-in Beanshell.
> I'm using Groovy's GroovyShell to evaluate the script [4].
> It includes the Groovy UNO Extension.
> You can get it on Bintray here [5].
>
> The third project is OpenOffice-Groovy-Macros [6] an extension to add a lot 
> of the sample macros
> included in AOO rewritten in Groovy.
> Probably more useful copy-paste from github since you can't edit these from 
> the extension like you
> can with the built-in macros.
> You can get it on Bintray here [7].
>
> I plan to add them to the Extension site after I get some more testing done.
>
> I'm also working on an Extension project generator similar to the NetBeans 
> plugin but IDE
> independent.
> Not ready to show that one yet.
>
> I have copies of the 4.1.6 UNO jars for use by Maven, Gradle and Groovy 
> scripts in Bintray [8].
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you *very* much for your explanations and pointers! I can now 
understand/relate better what
you are up to, very interesting!

Best regards

---rony


>
> [1] https://github.com/cbmarcum/guno-extension
> [2] https://cbmarcum.github.io/guno-extension/
> [3] https://github.com/cbmarcum/openoffice-groovy
> [4] http://www.groovy-lang.org/integrating.html#integ-groovyshell
> [5] https://bintray.com/cmarcum/openoffice-extensions/openoffice-groovy#files
> [6] https://github.com/cbmarcum/openoffice-groovy-macros
> [7] 
> https://bintray.com/cmarcum/openoffice-extensions/openoffice-groovy-macros#files
> [8] https://bintray.com/cmarcum/maven


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Re: Question ad Groovy implementation (Re: Beanshell Scripting

[Carl Marcum]

Hi Rony,

On 7/14/20 10:11 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi Carl,

On 13.07.2020 22:07, Carl Marcum wrote:
... cut ...


Currently my Groovy macro is a standalone extension.

We can discuss later after I announce it's information whether it could be 
added to the office at
some point or left as a soon-to-be-popular extension ;)

Could you briefly explain what your extension does (e.g. generically allowing 
the implementation of
UNO classes/components in Groovy)?

---rony

P.S.: AFAIK Groovy uses Apache BSF. If so it may be helpful to look at the 
ooRexx ScriptProvider
implementation (which uses Apache BSF and which is based on the BeanShell 
implementation of the
ScriptProvider) in case you have not yet implemented the ScriptProvider part 
for Groovy.




I'm planning a more formal announcement as soon as I finish the Readme's 
for a couple of these but...


There are a few inter-dependent projects.

The Groovy UNO Extension [1] extends the Java UNO API's with convenience 
methods for Groovy Extensions and Client apps.

It's documentation is here [2].
It uses Groovy's Extension mechanism to extend the UNO API's.

The OpenOffice-Groovy [3] is the OpenOffice extension to add Groovy to 
the scripting framework. It is heavily influenced by the built-in Beanshell.

I'm using Groovy's GroovyShell to evaluate the script [4].
It includes the Groovy UNO Extension.
You can get it on Bintray here [5].

The third project is OpenOffice-Groovy-Macros [6] an extension to add a 
lot of the sample macros included in AOO rewritten in Groovy.
Probably more useful copy-paste from github since you can't edit these 
from the extension like you can with the built-in macros.

You can get it on Bintray here [7].

I plan to add them to the Extension site after I get some more testing done.

I'm also working on an Extension project generator similar to the 
NetBeans plugin but IDE independent.

Not ready to show that one yet.

I have copies of the 4.1.6 UNO jars for use by Maven, Gradle and Groovy 
scripts in Bintray [8].


Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,
Carl


[1] https://github.com/cbmarcum/guno-extension
[2] https://cbmarcum.github.io/guno-extension/
[3] https://github.com/cbmarcum/openoffice-groovy
[4] http://www.groovy-lang.org/integrating.html#integ-groovyshell
[5] 
https://bintray.com/cmarcum/openoffice-extensions/openoffice-groovy#files

[6] https://github.com/cbmarcum/openoffice-groovy-macros
[7] 
https://bintray.com/cmarcum/openoffice-extensions/openoffice-groovy-macros#files

[8] https://bintray.com/cmarcum/maven


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OS/2 (Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi Matthias,

On 14.07.2020 16:48, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Hi Rony,
>
> Am 14.07.20 um 16:34 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> On 14.07.2020 16:14, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
 Hi there,

 yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against 
 the MacOS Developer Build
 (4.2) to test whether  
 is fixed.

 As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO 
 (and LO) failed I looked
 into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
 resides in
 "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
 whereas it used to be
 located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
>>> As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
>>> I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.
>> Yes, this is o.k. (not the problem).
>>
>> The problem is that in the "Contents" directory there is no "program" 
>> subdirectory in the developer
>> build, rather it is named "MacOS" instead.
> I realized that now (see my other mail)
>> The installation script assumes on the Mac that "soffice" and "unoinfo" are 
>> located in
>> "/Applications/OpenOffice[ Developer Build].app/Contents/program". (If this 
>> is intentional I would
>> change the script accordingly.)
> I don't think that was intentional. Let's wait for a "normal" build.
>>> Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
>>> (the same would apply to a Beta Build)
>>>
>>> @Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?
>>>
>>> BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first 
>>> "language" on OS/2.
>> You would be surprised! ;-)
>>
>> Actually "Object-oriented Rexx" was created as an object-oriented 
>> replacement of "Rexx" for OS/2
>> Warp by IBM. The Windows version generated quite some income for IBM when 
>> their user base switched
>> from OS/2 to Windows and learned that there were tons of Rexx programs that 
>> also needed to run on
>> Windows.
>>
>> Later IBM handed the source code over to the non-profit SIG "Rexx Language 
>> Association" which then
>> released an open-source version of it under the name "Open Object Rexx" 
>> (ooRexx) in 2005. Ever since
>> then it got steadily improved and the current 5.0 (officially in beta but in 
>> release quality)
>> release is imminent.
>>
>> The OpenOffice plugin of ooRexx was created using the Java-bridge 
>> "BSF4ooRexx" (Apache BSF and
>> ooRexx), which also has its roots in OS/2 believe it or not: Java played an 
>> important role for OS/2
>> and portable (even GUI) applications became possible with the Java bridge 
>> such that Rexx programs
>> developed under OS/2 ran unchanged on Windows (and vice versa).
>>
>> Today the Java bridge BSF4ooRexx is bi-directionally complete, i.e. Java 
>> classes and Java objects
>> are camouflaged as ooRexx classes and objects, sending them ooRexx messages. 
>> On the other hand Java
>> code can invoke ooRexx methods without realizing that the implementation is 
>> done in ooRexx (e.g.
>> when extending Java classes in ooRexx or implementing abstract Java methods 
>> in ooRexx).
>>
>> Like with Rexx ooRexx is a dynamically typed, interpreted language with a 
>> "human-centric" syntax,
>> such that it can be learned quite fast and programs can be understood quite 
>> easily.
>>
>> So, if you have interest and a little bit of time, it may be very worthwhile 
>> to look into it.
>> Creating ooRexx-macros and/or using OpenOffice from ooRexx programs is 
>> straight-forward and quite easy.
> If I only had the time (and knowledge)... ;-)
>
> But in fact I still use OS/2 (ArcaOS in VirtualBox) with AOO installed.

That is remarkable and great indeed!

---rony



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Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Rony G. Flatscher]

One more problem, observation: while running "unopkg" I experience the 
following error:

e:\DropBox\Dropbox\xfer\mac>type problem.txt
wu114217:Resources rony$ "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer 
Build.app/Contents/MacOS/unopkg" add -f --shared /Library/Frameworks/BSF4o
oRexx.framework/Libraries/ScriptProviderForooRexx.oxt
dyld: Library not loaded: @___URELIB/libuno_cppu.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/OpenOffice Developer 
Build.app/Contents/MacOS/uno.bin
  Reason: image not found

^Cwu114217:Resources ronysudo "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer 
Build.app/Contents/MacOS/unopkg" add -f --shared /Library/Frameworks/
BSF4ooRexx.framework/Libraries/ScriptProviderForooRexx.oxt
dyld: Library not loaded: @___URELIB/libuno_cppu.dylib
  Referenced from: /Applications/OpenOffice Developer 
Build.app/Contents/MacOS/uno.bin
  Reason: image not found

The version of AOO 2.0 developer build for MacOSX was downloaded yesterday from 
Jim's site:


---rony


On 14.07.2020 16:03, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
> MacOS Developer Build
> (4.2) to test whether  is 
> fixed.
>
> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO (and 
> LO) failed I looked
> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
> resides in
> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
> whereas it used to be
> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
>
> Is this an oversight/bug or has the directory structure been changed (and if 
> so on all platforms)?
>
> ---rony
>

Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Rony,

Am 14.07.20 um 16:34 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> On 14.07.2020 16:14, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
>>> MacOS Developer Build
>>> (4.2) to test whether  is 
>>> fixed.
>>>
>>> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO 
>>> (and LO) failed I looked
>>> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
>>> resides in
>>> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
>>> whereas it used to be
>>> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
>> As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
>> I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.
> Yes, this is o.k. (not the problem).
>
> The problem is that in the "Contents" directory there is no "program" 
> subdirectory in the developer
> build, rather it is named "MacOS" instead.
I realized that now (see my other mail)
>
> The installation script assumes on the Mac that "soffice" and "unoinfo" are 
> located in
> "/Applications/OpenOffice[ Developer Build].app/Contents/program". (If this 
> is intentional I would
> change the script accordingly.)
I don't think that was intentional. Let's wait for a "normal" build.
>
>> Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
>> (the same would apply to a Beta Build)
>>
>> @Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?
>>
>> BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first 
>> "language" on OS/2.
> You would be surprised! ;-)
>
> Actually "Object-oriented Rexx" was created as an object-oriented replacement 
> of "Rexx" for OS/2
> Warp by IBM. The Windows version generated quite some income for IBM when 
> their user base switched
> from OS/2 to Windows and learned that there were tons of Rexx programs that 
> also needed to run on
> Windows.
>
> Later IBM handed the source code over to the non-profit SIG "Rexx Language 
> Association" which then
> released an open-source version of it under the name "Open Object Rexx" 
> (ooRexx) in 2005. Ever since
> then it got steadily improved and the current 5.0 (officially in beta but in 
> release quality)
> release is imminent.
>
> The OpenOffice plugin of ooRexx was created using the Java-bridge 
> "BSF4ooRexx" (Apache BSF and
> ooRexx), which also has its roots in OS/2 believe it or not: Java played an 
> important role for OS/2
> and portable (even GUI) applications became possible with the Java bridge 
> such that Rexx programs
> developed under OS/2 ran unchanged on Windows (and vice versa).
>
> Today the Java bridge BSF4ooRexx is bi-directionally complete, i.e. Java 
> classes and Java objects
> are camouflaged as ooRexx classes and objects, sending them ooRexx messages. 
> On the other hand Java
> code can invoke ooRexx methods without realizing that the implementation is 
> done in ooRexx (e.g.
> when extending Java classes in ooRexx or implementing abstract Java methods 
> in ooRexx).
>
> Like with Rexx ooRexx is a dynamically typed, interpreted language with a 
> "human-centric" syntax,
> such that it can be learned quite fast and programs can be understood quite 
> easily.
>
> So, if you have interest and a little bit of time, it may be very worthwhile 
> to look into it.
> Creating ooRexx-macros and/or using OpenOffice from ooRexx programs is 
> straight-forward and quite easy.

If I only had the time (and knowledge)... ;-)

But in fact I still use OS/2 (ArcaOS in VirtualBox) with AOO installed.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> ---rony
>
>
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Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi Matthias,

On 14.07.2020 16:14, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
>> MacOS Developer Build
>> (4.2) to test whether  is 
>> fixed.
>>
>> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO 
>> (and LO) failed I looked
>> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
>> resides in
>> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
>> whereas it used to be
>> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
> As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
> I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.

Yes, this is o.k. (not the problem).

The problem is that in the "Contents" directory there is no "program" 
subdirectory in the developer
build, rather it is named "MacOS" instead.

The installation script assumes on the Mac that "soffice" and "unoinfo" are 
located in
"/Applications/OpenOffice[ Developer Build].app/Contents/program". (If this is 
intentional I would
change the script accordingly.)

> Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
> (the same would apply to a Beta Build)
>
> @Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?
>
> BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first 
> "language" on OS/2.

You would be surprised! ;-)

Actually "Object-oriented Rexx" was created as an object-oriented replacement 
of "Rexx" for OS/2
Warp by IBM. The Windows version generated quite some income for IBM when their 
user base switched
from OS/2 to Windows and learned that there were tons of Rexx programs that 
also needed to run on
Windows.

Later IBM handed the source code over to the non-profit SIG "Rexx Language 
Association" which then
released an open-source version of it under the name "Open Object Rexx" 
(ooRexx) in 2005. Ever since
then it got steadily improved and the current 5.0 (officially in beta but in 
release quality)
release is imminent.

The OpenOffice plugin of ooRexx was created using the Java-bridge "BSF4ooRexx" 
(Apache BSF and
ooRexx), which also has its roots in OS/2 believe it or not: Java played an 
important role for OS/2
and portable (even GUI) applications became possible with the Java bridge such 
that Rexx programs
developed under OS/2 ran unchanged on Windows (and vice versa).

Today the Java bridge BSF4ooRexx is bi-directionally complete, i.e. Java 
classes and Java objects
are camouflaged as ooRexx classes and objects, sending them ooRexx messages. On 
the other hand Java
code can invoke ooRexx methods without realizing that the implementation is 
done in ooRexx (e.g.
when extending Java classes in ooRexx or implementing abstract Java methods in 
ooRexx).

Like with Rexx ooRexx is a dynamically typed, interpreted language with a 
"human-centric" syntax,
such that it can be learned quite fast and programs can be understood quite 
easily.

So, if you have interest and a little bit of time, it may be very worthwhile to 
look into it.
Creating ooRexx-macros and/or using OpenOffice from ooRexx programs is 
straight-forward and quite easy.

---rony



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Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi again,

Am 14.07.20 um 16:14 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi Rony,
>
> Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
>> MacOS Developer Build
>> (4.2) to test whether  is 
>> fixed.
>>
>> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO 
>> (and LO) failed I looked
>> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
>> resides in
>> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
>> whereas it used to be
>> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".
> As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
> I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.

Oh, I realize now that the differnce is between *MacOS* and *program*...

Of course that shouldn't be.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
> (the same would apply to a Beta Build)
>
> @Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?
>
> BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first
> "language" on OS/2.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>> Is this an oversight/bug or has the directory structure been changed (and if 
>> so on all platforms)?
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>



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Re: Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Rony,

Am 14.07.20 um 16:03 schrieb Rony G. Flatscher:
> Hi there,
>
> yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
> MacOS Developer Build
> (4.2) to test whether  is 
> fixed.
>
> As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO (and 
> LO) failed I looked
> into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
> resides in
> "/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" 
> whereas it used to be
> located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".

As it is a Developer Build the PRODUCTNAME is "OpenOffice Developer Build"
I am pretty sure that your script works as expected with a "normal" build.

Maybe there is a possibility to get the script recognize the difference?
(the same would apply to a Beta Build)

@Jim: Could you provide some plain mac builds?

BTW: I always wanted to test your ooRexx extension, Rexx was my first
"language" on OS/2.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Is this an oversight/bug or has the directory structure been changed (and if 
> so on all platforms)?
>
> ---rony
>
>



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Question ad Groovy implementation (Re: Beanshell Scripting

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi Carl,

On 13.07.2020 22:07, Carl Marcum wrote:
... cut ...

> Currently my Groovy macro is a standalone extension.
>
> We can discuss later after I announce it's information whether it could be 
> added to the office at
> some point or left as a soon-to-be-popular extension ;)

Could you briefly explain what your extension does (e.g. generically allowing 
the implementation of
UNO classes/components in Groovy)?

---rony

P.S.: AFAIK Groovy uses Apache BSF. If so it may be helpful to look at the 
ooRexx ScriptProvider
implementation (which uses Apache BSF and which is based on the BeanShell 
implementation of the
ScriptProvider) in case you have not yet implemented the ScriptProvider part 
for Groovy.



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Question ad MacOS 4.2 Developer Build

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Hi there,

yesterday I intended to test the ooRexx macro language oxt file against the 
MacOS Developer Build
(4.2) to test whether  is 
fixed.

As the install script that has been working for more than 10 years on OO (and 
LO) failed I looked
into the cause and saw that the "soffice" (and "unoinfo") executable now 
resides in
"/Applications/OpenOffice Developer Build.app/Contents/*MacOS*/soffice" whereas 
it used to be
located in "/Applications/OpenOffice.app/Contents/*program*/soffice".

Is this an oversight/bug or has the directory structure been changed (and if so 
on all platforms)?

---rony

Re: Fwd: Question about Open Office

[Marcus]

From: ANN GORMAN 
Subject: Question about Open Office
Date: September 23, 2019 at 4:15:39 AM PDT
To: webmas...@apache.org, apa...@apache.org

Hi my name is Ann, I have been using open office for years I love it and 
recommend it to anyone, I have always had hp computers that run on windows, I 
am interested in getting a google chrome book for myself and am wondering if 
open office will download and work the same on a chrome book as on windows if 
it don't then I have to buy a laptop my main concern is that open office can be 
used the same way on what ever operating system that it does on windows. If you 
can please let me know so I can make my purchase of a laptop or a chrome book. 
Thanks


officially we don't support Google's Chromebook. Only the operating 
systems Windows, macOS and Linux in their native forms.


However, there are other people that have the same question. Please have 
a look on the user support forums like here [1] or here [2].


[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73597
[2] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78706

Marcus

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Fwd: Question about Open Office

[Chris Lambertus]

Not ACKed.

FYI dev@openoffice


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: ANN GORMAN 
> Subject: Question about Open Office
> Date: September 23, 2019 at 4:15:39 AM PDT
> To: webmas...@apache.org, apa...@apache.org
> 
> Hi my name is Ann, I have been using open office for years I love it and 
> recommend it to anyone, I have always had hp computers that run on windows, I 
> am interested in getting a google chrome book for myself and am wondering if 
> open office will download and work the same on a chrome book as on windows if 
> it don't then I have to buy a laptop my main concern is that open office can 
> be used the same way on what ever operating system that it does on windows. 
> If you can please let me know so I can make my purchase of a laptop or a 
> chrome book. Thanks

RE: Technical question regarding line wrapping with bidirectional text

[Howard Cary Morris]

This is how I do it in practice. Open office knows which fonts or parts of 
fonts is “rtl” versus “ltr”.  So if I want to insert Hebrew in the middle of an 
English document, I insert special (Hebrew) characters from the David font into 
the document. However, I never tried this over a line break, but I assume it 
will work reasonably well by making blocks of the two directions and keeping 
them together.



Howard



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From: Cosmin Apreutesei 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:27:09 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Technical question regarding line wrapping with bidirectional text

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for an answer to a dilemma I have about text layouting and
I was wondering if I might get some thoughts about how that's done in
OO Write.

In short, the Unicode Bidi Algorithm requires that reordering of mixed
RTL/LTR text runs be done after line breaking. But the line wrapping
algorithm needs to know which text runs go first/last on each line in
order to compute the line width, because there might be diff. amount
of whitespace between runs, so depending on the order of the runs
within the line, the line will have a diff. width. Looks like a
chicken-egg problem and I can't figure it out. Why is this not a
problem in any bidi-enabled text editor? How is that solved in
practice?

Thanks!

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Technical question regarding line wrapping with bidirectional text

[Cosmin Apreutesei]

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for an answer to a dilemma I have about text layouting and
I was wondering if I might get some thoughts about how that's done in
OO Write.

In short, the Unicode Bidi Algorithm requires that reordering of mixed
RTL/LTR text runs be done after line breaking. But the line wrapping
algorithm needs to know which text runs go first/last on each line in
order to compute the line width, because there might be diff. amount
of whitespace between runs, so depending on the order of the runs
within the line, the line will have a diff. width. Looks like a
chicken-egg problem and I can't figure it out. Why is this not a
problem in any bidi-enabled text editor? How is that solved in
practice?

Thanks!

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Re: accessibility development status question

[Pavel Vlček]

Yea thanks.

I have a small issue with Writer and Nvda screen reader. I will test, if 
it is only with .docx, doc and / or odt format and I'll create a issue. 
Problem is with reading documents with more than one page.


Pavel



Dne 01.07.2018 v 10:20 Peter Kovacs napsal(a):

Hi Pavel,

What do you mean by accessibility?

We have some bugs of accessibility request for

- internal features.

- Mousless Interface

- Speech recognition


In general we are currently focus maintain the code, meaning fixing 
errors. That does not mean someone is not looking into it, or has done 
something that brings you closer to your whish.


Please describe more closely what you mean, or point at a dedicated 
issue.



Thank you.


All the best

Peter


On 29.06.2018 10:51, Pavel Vlček wrote:

Dear devs,

is accessibility of Open Office in active development?

Thanks,

Pavel



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Re: accessibility development status question

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Pavel,

What do you mean by accessibility?

We have some bugs of accessibility request for

- internal features.

- Mousless Interface

- Speech recognition


In general we are currently focus maintain the code, meaning fixing 
errors. That does not mean someone is not looking into it, or has done 
something that brings you closer to your whish.


Please describe more closely what you mean, or point at a dedicated issue.


Thank you.


All the best

Peter


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Dear devs,

is accessibility of Open Office in active development?

Thanks,

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accessibility development status question

[Pavel Vlček]

Dear devs,

is accessibility of Open Office in active development?

Thanks,

Pavel



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Re: a question about the hyphenator

[toki]

On 04/09/2018 06:46 AM, Mauro Trevisan wrote:
>  Hi, I would like to ask you if there are some documentation on the
> hyphenation algorithm, particularly on the non-standard hyphenation and --
> mainly -- on the NEXTLEVEL keyword.

a) I haven't looked at the code;
b) This is from memory, based on material back when OOo 2.x was in
development;

As such, this might not reflect current practice, if not outright wrong.

There are two hyphenation algorithms in OOo.  One of them was created by
Lázló Németh. (Hoping I have the correct diacritic marks.) The other one
was a slightly modified form of the hyphenation program used by TeX.

The Tex derived hyphenation program is for "normal languages", where
everything is regular, and compounded words can be easily parsed and
broken apart, without losing meaning.

The program Lázló wrote is for non-normal languages. These are languages
that use a number of suffixes, prefixes, intefixes, and other things,
that more or less ensure that breaking the word can, and usually will
alter the meaning of the word, if not the sentence. It is not uncommon
that breaking one of these words in the wrong place, will change the
meaning of the entire paragraph. Hungarian is the best known European
language, with this type of behaviour.

His program also works for languages in which words can be compounded
upon words, to create new words. Break these words in the wrong place,
and one can easily overlook the misplaced hyphen. Even breaking them in
the right place can result in the hyphen being overlooked.

IIRC, Lázló wrote at least one paper, and did one or two presentations
on hyphenation in OOo.

jonathon

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a question about the hyphenator

[Mauro Trevisan]

 Hi, I would like to ask you if there are some documentation on the
hyphenation algorithm, particularly on the non-standard hyphenation and --
mainly -- on the NEXTLEVEL keyword.
I don't understand how it is used. It divides the patterns in two groups
where the first is used in the hyphenation of a non-compounded word and the
second on a compounded word? How can I know a word is compounded?
Thank you

Re: technical question

[toki]

On 03/08/2018 05:29 PM, Leilani M. Pugh wrote:
> This is not a technical "how to" question.  This is something I would like
> to see added somehow, because you can't drag the top & bottom independently

AOo currently offers that functionality.

jonathon

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RE: technical question

[Leilani M. Pugh]

This is not a technical "how to" question.  This is something I would like
to see added somehow, because you can't drag the top & bottom independently
of each other.  I already know how to drag them.  Again, what they don't
have is  the ability for the top & bottom independently. I hope this helps
to clarify what my issue was & is.  If someone would care to speak w/me or
maybe I can show what I'm talking about that would be great.  If you like,
maybe I could send a video?

Leilani Pugh
304-258-7935

-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 5:18 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Leilani M. Pugh
Subject: Re: technical question

Am 05.03.2018 um 22:07 schrieb Leilani M. Pugh:
> *I had no idea where to send this "problem" to nor was I sure how to 
> search for it.  I am a heavy user of AOO Writer & my question is 
> regarding formatting or more specifically indenting.  I am going to 
> take a picture & try to show you what my question is…*
> 
> *In this situation, I would like to be able to adjust the top & bottom 
> independently of each other but I can't.  I can adjust the top portion 
> of the margin but when I try to move the bottom for the indent, it 
> moves both together.*
> 
> *I hope you were able to understand what I'm trying to do.  Thank you 
> so much for your time & consideration….*

because you have a typical "Howto" question, your request is better suited
in the user forums [1] or the users mailing list [2].

The developer mailing list is not the right place for such case of problems.

[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/
[2]
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public

Thanks for your understanding.

Marcus


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Re: technical question

[Marcus]

Am 05.03.2018 um 22:07 schrieb Leilani M. Pugh:
*I had no idea where to send this "problem" to nor was I sure how to 
search for it.  I am a heavy user of AOO Writer & my question is 
regarding formatting or more specifically indenting.  I am going to take 
a picture & try to show you what my question is…*


*In this situation, I would like to be able to adjust the top & bottom 
independently of each other but I can't.  I can adjust the top portion 
of the margin but when I try to move the bottom for the indent, it moves 
both together.*


*I hope you were able to understand what I'm trying to do.  Thank you so 
much for your time & consideration….*


because you have a typical "Howto" question, your request is better 
suited in the user forums [1] or the users mailing list [2].


The developer mailing list is not the right place for such case of problems.

[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/
[2] 
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public


Thanks for your understanding.

Marcus


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technical question

[Leilani M. Pugh]

I had no idea where to send this "problem" to nor was I sure how to search
for it.  I am a heavy user of AOO Writer & my question is regarding
formatting or more specifically indenting.  I am going to take a picture &
try to show you what my question is.

In this situation, I would like to be able to adjust the top & bottom
independently of each other but I can't.  I can adjust the top portion of
the margin but when I try to move the bottom for the indent, it moves both
together.

 



 

I hope you were able to understand what I'm trying to do.  Thank you so much
for your time & consideration..

If you would like to contact me, my number is 304-258-7935

 

Sincerely,

Leilani Pugh

 

 

Re: Fwd: Question about OO requiurements

[Peter Kovacs]

Can you add ome information please.

- Which distribution are you using?

- Which OpenOffice Version is this?

- Have you OpenOffice and Libre Office installed?

- From where did you install OpenOffice?


Thanks, a lot.

All the best

Peter

On 27.01.2018 18:20, JD wrote:

-- Forwarded message --
From: JD 
Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 2:43 AM
Subject: Question about OO requiurements
To: Apache OpenOffice 


Could one of the developers tell me why I am getting this?

Thanx.

$ soffice
GConf warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/interface': Client
failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/proxy': Client failed to connect
to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/http_proxy/host': Client failed
to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto':
Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

$ ps -ef | grep -i dbus
dbus   839 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:26 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
--address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --sys
jd2505 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax
--exit-with-session
jd2506 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork
--print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session
jd2828  2824  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon
--config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork




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Fwd: Question about OO requiurements

[JD]

-- Forwarded message --
From: JD 
Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 2:43 AM
Subject: Question about OO requiurements
To: Apache OpenOffice 


Could one of the developers tell me why I am getting this?

Thanx.

$ soffice
GConf warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/interface': Client
failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/proxy': Client failed to connect
to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/http_proxy/host': Client failed
to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf
warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto':
Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

$ ps -ef | grep -i dbus
dbus   839 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:26 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
--address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --sys
jd2505 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax
--exit-with-session
jd2506 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork
--print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session
jd2828  2824  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon
--config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork

Question about OO requiurements

[JD]

Could one of the developers tell me why I am getting this?

Thanx.

$ soffice
GConf warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/interface': 
Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application 
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, 
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf 
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/proxy': Client failed to 
connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application 
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, 
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf 
warning: failure listing pairs in `/system/http_proxy/host': Client 
failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application 
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, 
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.GConf 
warning: failure listing pairs in `/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto': 
Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon:
Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application 
did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, 
the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.


$ ps -ef | grep -i dbus
dbus   839 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:26 /bin/dbus-daemon 
--system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --sys
jd2505 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 dbus-launch --sh-syntax 
--exit-with-session
jd2506 1  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork 
--print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session
jd2828  2824  0 Jan24 ?00:00:00 /bin/dbus-daemon 
--config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork

Re: Question on Windows Step by Step Building Guide

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/8/2017 5:13 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> My solution is to do all file-changing svn operations, including
> check-out, using the Cygwin command line svn, not TortoiseSVN.
> 
Pat;
A reasonable solution and most likely a useful skill to become
re-acquainted with; however since it is 25+ years since I have played in
a Unix environment was also hoping to have a fall back to a bit more
automated methodology for dealing with SVN.
I will definitely  in mind going forward.

Keith


> On 12/8/2017 2:04 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> For a number of reasons I am considering embarking into the wonderful
>> world of building AOO on Windows. In the section on getting AOO source
>> code there is the following warning. Do not use a tool that changes line
>> endings, such as the default configuration of TortoiseSVN. I understand
>> the reasoning around not wanting to change line endings, I was hoping
>> some one knew of a way around the problem with the default configuration.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
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Re: Question on Windows Step by Step Building Guide

[Patricia Shanahan]

My solution is to do all file-changing svn operations, including 
check-out, using the Cygwin command line svn, not TortoiseSVN.


On 12/8/2017 2:04 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

For a number of reasons I am considering embarking into the wonderful
world of building AOO on Windows. In the section on getting AOO source
code there is the following warning. Do not use a tool that changes line
endings, such as the default configuration of TortoiseSVN. I understand
the reasoning around not wanting to change line endings, I was hoping
some one knew of a way around the problem with the default configuration.

Regards
Keith



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Question on Windows Step by Step Building Guide

[Keith N. McKenna]

For a number of reasons I am considering embarking into the wonderful
world of building AOO on Windows. In the section on getting AOO source
code there is the following warning. Do not use a tool that changes line
endings, such as the default configuration of TortoiseSVN. I understand
the reasoning around not wanting to change line endings, I was hoping
some one knew of a way around the problem with the default configuration.

Regards
Keith



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Re: apache odftoolkit question

[sos]

Is suppose you must change the PageStyle and that must been done after 
inserting a pagebreak

hopes it helps
grt;
Fernand
On 05/10/2017 14:05, Vitaliy Yatsunskyi wrote:

Please help me to answer my question
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46580464/apache-odftoolkit-portrait-landscape-mode

I'm using library apache odftoolkit
<https://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit> to generate report from Java code
to *.odt file. Have code like this:

outputOdt = TextDocument.newTextDocument();
Paragraph p = outputOdt.addParagraph("some text");
p.appendTextContent("some text");

I'm adding paragraphs, tables, setting fonts, and it works fine. But I need
to set some pages in my document in Landscape mode but don't know how to do
this. I found API class PageLayoutProperties and method
setPrintOrientation(), but don't know where to call it. Anybody know?
Thank you!




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apache odftoolkit question

[Vitaliy Yatsunskyi]

   Please help me to answer my question
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46580464/apache-odftoolkit-portrait-landscape-mode

I'm using library apache odftoolkit
<https://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit> to generate report from Java code
to *.odt file. Have code like this:

outputOdt = TextDocument.newTextDocument();
Paragraph p = outputOdt.addParagraph("some text");
p.appendTextContent("some text");

I'm adding paragraphs, tables, setting fonts, and it works fine. But I need
to set some pages in my document in Landscape mode but don't know how to do
this. I found API class PageLayoutProperties and method
setPrintOrientation(), but don't know where to call it. Anybody know?
Thank you!

Re: Windows build question

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 07.08.2017 um 15:06 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Just for the heck-of-it I am setting up a Win7 build VM for
> AOO... going over the build stuff on the wikis I see that
> I am supposed to download the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1
> Redistributable Package, for vcredist_x86.exe and vcredist_x64.exe.

Be sure to install Win7 (64bit) or even better Win10 (64bit).

Those 2 packages are bundled with OpenOffice for the installation
process. They have to be put here:
{SourceMain}/main/external/vcredist/

> But later on 
> (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10)
> one of the optional packages is DirectX SDK which installs Visual C++
> 2010 Redistributable.

This runtime is needed for DirectX SDK itself.

> Now in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127197#c6 it looks
> like, somehow, 2 versions of vcredist_x86.exe are bundled, one
> from the 2008 package and the other from the 2010 one (I assume).
> But the *downloaded* versions are both called the exact same.
>
> So what does the rename of the 2010 version of vcredist_x86.exe to
> vcredist100_x86.exe, as implied by the BZ issue?

This Bugzilla issue was started by Ariel to overcome the "Java not
found" problem in 4.1.3.
Later he decided to bundle msvcr100.dll (32bit) like we did before (in
fact in 4.1.3 it was 64bit, hence the bug).

The Visual C Runtime dll (msvcr100.dll) has to be put here:
{SourceMain}/main/external/msvcp100/

And yes, Microsoft wisely decided to name vcredist_x86.exe for VC2008
and VC2010 exactly the same... ;-)
I just renamed them to "vcredist_x86_2008.exe" and
"vcredist_x86_2010.exe" to tell them apart.

I hope that helps!

Regards, Matthias

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Windows build question

[Jim Jagielski]

Just for the heck-of-it I am setting up a Win7 build VM for
AOO... going over the build stuff on the wikis I see that
I am supposed to download the Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1
Redistributable Package, for vcredist_x86.exe and vcredist_x64.exe.

But later on 
(https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10)
one of the optional packages is DirectX SDK which installs Visual C++
2010 Redistributable.

Now in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127197#c6 it looks
like, somehow, 2 versions of vcredist_x86.exe are bundled, one
from the 2008 package and the other from the 2010 one (I assume).
But the *downloaded* versions are both called the exact same.

So what does the rename of the 2010 version of vcredist_x86.exe to
vcredist100_x86.exe, as implied by the BZ issue?
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Re: A question before I download

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi

Please don't ask any user questions on this list. This is the developer  
mailing list. Please go to https://forum.openoffice.org/ for this  
question, thanks!


Regards, Raphael

Am .03.2017, 23:02 Uhr, schrieb MISTY BLUE :

Hi, I have an HP laptop that came with reduced-priced WORD Home combo  
(WORD, EXCEL, etc.) That one-year special is about to end and I'd really  
like to switch over to your software because of the high renewal price.  
I really only use word processing but I guess your download is  
everything just like WORD. My question is do I wait until my WORD  
subscription expires next Monday to download your software or can I  
download before WORD expires without causing any conflict? Looking  
forward to your reply. Misty



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A question before I download

[MISTY BLUE]

Hi, I have an HP laptop that came with reduced-priced WORD Home combo (WORD, 
EXCEL, etc.) That one-year special is about to end and I'd really like to 
switch over to your software because of the high renewal price. I really only 
use word processing but I guess your download is everything just like WORD. My 
question is do I wait until my WORD subscription expires next Monday to 
download your software or can I download before WORD expires without causing 
any conflict? Looking forward to your reply. Misty

Re: Question about saving Documents

[Greg Kashuba]

Great! I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Marcus  wrote:

> Am 21.02.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Greg Kashuba:
>
>> I got an updated newer Mac Book Pro and loaded my prior computer software
>> and configurations from the older one. One thing that did not transfer was
>> Office for Mac which I got thru my employer GEICO at a substantial
>> discount. I don’t use the program much but when I do, I save all my doc’s
>> in .pdf format. Can I save doc’s written on openoffice as .pdf’s?
>>
>
> sure. You just need to load the document, click on the PDF icon in the top
> toolbar - left to the printer icon. Or go via menu "File - Export as PDF".
>
> HTH
>
> Marcus
>
>


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Re: Question about saving Documents

[Marcus]

Am 21.02.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Greg Kashuba:

I got an updated newer Mac Book Pro and loaded my prior computer software and 
configurations from the older one. One thing that did not transfer was Office 
for Mac which I got thru my employer GEICO at a substantial discount. I don’t 
use the program much but when I do, I save all my doc’s in .pdf format. Can I 
save doc’s written on openoffice as .pdf’s?


sure. You just need to load the document, click on the PDF icon in the 
top toolbar - left to the printer icon. Or go via menu "File - Export as 
PDF".


HTH

Marcus


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Question about saving Documents

[Greg Kashuba]

I got an updated newer Mac Book Pro and loaded my prior computer software and 
configurations from the older one. One thing that did not transfer was Office 
for Mac which I got thru my employer GEICO at a substantial discount. I don’t 
use the program much but when I do, I save all my doc’s in .pdf format. Can I 
save doc’s written on openoffice as .pdf’s?

Greg Kashuba
Retired

Hello, I have a question about rsc compiler & gbuild

[김재석]

Hello, My name is jaeseok kim. 
I knew this e-mail address on fourm.openoffice.org/forum. And I have a few 
question about OpenOffice. 
 
I use openoffice source code in my project. But it is so difficult. So I need 
some helps.
 
I want to convert the '.hrc/.src file' to the '.res file.' I know that using 
rsc compiler. 
I'd like to use compiler rsc separately. To use it, what kind of Make file 
should be made? 
 
When you make the formula module in libreoffice, you know that rsc compiler 
creates a foren file using the resource file. 
 
command is main/formula make -f Makefile. 
 
I would like to convert the "core_resource.src" file to "foren.res" using the 
rsc compiler in other program. 
 
So it's the same thing to try to make the same thing. 
copy to my folder these folders and file 
/main/formula 
/main/rsc 
/main/solenv 
LinuxX86-64Env.Set 
 
and 
/formula gmake -f Makefile 
 
but did not seem to work. 
Ultimately, I want to use the files I want to convert to binary format using 
the rsc compiler tool.
 
Thank you.
From JS

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

tly the
>>>> same
>>>> > as the instruction.
>>>> >
>>>> > I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
>>>> > someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ​
>>>> > As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
>>>> > complains it is missing.
>>>> >
>>>> > Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now
>>>> >
>>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629
>>>> >
>>>> > Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with
>>>> my
>>>> > environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hi again,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I now encountered this error,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files
>>>> not
>>>> >> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
>>>> >> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I
>>>> did
>>>> >> not install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be
>>>> strictly
>>>> >> followed?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> A more general question is does everything in
>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org
>>>> >> /wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be
>>>> strictly
>>>>
>>>> >> followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5,
>>>> MSVC
>>>> >> 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Thanks, will try to find it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <
>>>> dam...@apache.org>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my
>>>> download as
>>>> >>>> well.
>>>> >>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a
>>>> Cygwin
>>>> >>>> > command/tool?
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <
>>>> dam...@apache.org>
>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > > Hi
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure"
>>>> from "
>>>> >>>> > > configure.in".
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > Damjan
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> > > > Hello all,
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > My source code was from this page,
>>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/
>>>> >>>> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > I was following through this guide,
>>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/
>>>> >>>> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10"
>>>> section up
>>>> >>>> until
>>>> >>>> > > > this,
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
>>>> >>>> > > > ./configure \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"
>>>> \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>>> >>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>>> >>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
>>>> >>>> > > > --disable-pch \
>>>> >>>> > > > --disable-atl \
>>>> >>>> > > > --disable-activex \
>>>> >>>> > > > --disable-nss-module \
>>>> >>>> > > > --without-junit
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
>>>> >>>> > > ./configure:
>>>> >>>> > > > No such file or directory"
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure",
>>>> but
>>>> >>>> only
>>>> >>>> > > > configure.cmd and configure.in
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the
>>>> right
>>>> >>>> > > > instruction?​
>>>> >>>> > > >
>>>> >>>> > >
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

In the end I figured out I was missing perl-Net-SSLeay.

Since perl-LWP-Protocol depends on perl-Net-SSLeay (according to the
screenshot), apy-cyg should install perl-Net-SSLeay while installing
perl-LWP-Protocol, but it did not.

I suggest let configure output perl -e 'use LWP::Protocol::https', instead
of perl -e 'use LWP::Protocol::https' > \dev\null as currently is.


​

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Install the perl-LWP-Protocol-https package using Cygwin or apt-cyg.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Hong  wrote:
>
>> Hi Damjan,
>>
>> The error is still the same, except for the wording is a little different.
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached the config.log and output. In the meantime I will be looking at
>> the script as well. If I find something wrong, I will let you know.​
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Firstly, it looks like there's a bug in our configure script: the
>>> dependencies that are checked for in bulk, are different from the
>>> dependencies that are tested individually and reported as missing, so a
>>> missing dependency can be wrongly reported.
>>>
>>> I've just committed a fix for it, so please "svn update", "autoconf", and
>>> try "configure" again. If you still get errors, please attach the output
>>> and your config.log.
>>>
>>> Damjan
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > Now I am building AOO under Win7. Most of my settings are exactly the
>>> same
>>> > as the instruction.
>>> >
>>> > I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
>>> > someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ​
>>> > As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
>>> > complains it is missing.
>>> >
>>> > Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now
>>> >
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629
>>> >
>>> > Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with my
>>> > environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi again,
>>> >>
>>> >> I now encountered this error,
>>> >>
>>> >> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files
>>> not
>>> >> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
>>> >> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
>>> >>
>>> >> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did
>>> >> not install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
>>> >>
>>> >> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be
>>> strictly
>>> >> followed?
>>> >>
>>> >> A more general question is does everything in
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org
>>> >> /wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be
>>> strictly
>>>
>>> >> followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5,
>>> MSVC
>>> >> 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thanks, will try to find it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic >> >
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my
>>> download as
>>> >>>> well.
>>> >>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a
>>> Cygwin
>>> >>>> > command/tool?
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <
>>> dam...@apache.org>
>>> >>>&g

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi

Install the perl-LWP-Protocol-https package using Cygwin or apt-cyg.


On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Hong  wrote:

> Hi Damjan,
>
> The error is still the same, except for the wording is a little different.
>
>
>
> Attached the config.log and output. In the meantime I will be looking at
> the script as well. If I find something wrong, I will let you know.​
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> wrote:
>
>> Firstly, it looks like there's a bug in our configure script: the
>> dependencies that are checked for in bulk, are different from the
>> dependencies that are tested individually and reported as missing, so a
>> missing dependency can be wrongly reported.
>>
>> I've just committed a fix for it, so please "svn update", "autoconf", and
>> try "configure" again. If you still get errors, please attach the output
>> and your config.log.
>>
>> Damjan
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Now I am building AOO under Win7. Most of my settings are exactly the
>> same
>> > as the instruction.
>> >
>> > I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
>> > someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.
>> >
>> >
>> > ​
>> > As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
>> > complains it is missing.
>> >
>> > Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now
>> >
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629
>> >
>> > Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with my
>> > environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi again,
>> >>
>> >> I now encountered this error,
>> >>
>> >> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files not
>> >> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
>> >> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
>> >>
>> >> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did
>> >> not install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
>> >>
>> >> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be strictly
>> >> followed?
>> >>
>> >> A more general question is does everything in
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org
>> >> /wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be
>> strictly
>>
>> >> followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5,
>> MSVC
>> >> 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Thanks, will try to find it.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download
>> as
>> >>>> well.
>> >>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a
>> Cygwin
>> >>>> > command/tool?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <
>> dam...@apache.org>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > > Hi
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure"
>> from "
>> >>>> > > configure.in".
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Damjan
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong 
>> wrote:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > > Hello all,
>> >>>> > > >
>> >>>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>> >>>> > > >
>> >>>> > > > My source code was from this page,
>> https://openoffic

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

Hi Damjan,

The error is still the same, except for the wording is a little different.



Attached the config.log and output. In the meantime I will be looking at
the script as well. If I find something wrong, I will let you know.​


On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Firstly, it looks like there's a bug in our configure script: the
> dependencies that are checked for in bulk, are different from the
> dependencies that are tested individually and reported as missing, so a
> missing dependency can be wrongly reported.
>
> I've just committed a fix for it, so please "svn update", "autoconf", and
> try "configure" again. If you still get errors, please attach the output
> and your config.log.
>
> Damjan
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Hong  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Now I am building AOO under Win7. Most of my settings are exactly the
> same
> > as the instruction.
> >
> > I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
> > someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.
> >
> >
> > ​
> > As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
> > complains it is missing.
> >
> > Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629
> >
> > Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with my
> > environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi again,
> >>
> >> I now encountered this error,
> >>
> >> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files not
> >> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
> >> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
> >>
> >> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did
> >> not install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
> >>
> >> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be strictly
> >> followed?
> >>
> >> A more general question is does everything in
> https://wiki.openoffice.org
> >> /wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be
> strictly
> >> followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5,
> MSVC
> >> 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks, will try to find it.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download
> as
> >>>> well.
> >>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a
> Cygwin
> >>>> > command/tool?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <
> dam...@apache.org>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Hi
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from
> "
> >>>> > > configure.in".
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Damjan
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > > Hello all,
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > My source code was from this page,
> https://openoffice.apache.org/
> >>>> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > I was following through this guide,
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/
> >>>> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up
> >>>> until
> >>>> > > > this,
> >>>> > >

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Firstly, it looks like there's a bug in our configure script: the
dependencies that are checked for in bulk, are different from the
dependencies that are tested individually and reported as missing, so a
missing dependency can be wrongly reported.

I've just committed a fix for it, so please "svn update", "autoconf", and
try "configure" again. If you still get errors, please attach the output
and your config.log.

Damjan

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Hong  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Now I am building AOO under Win7. Most of my settings are exactly the same
> as the instruction.
>
> I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
> someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.
>
>
> ​
> As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
> complains it is missing.
>
> Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629
>
> Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with my
> environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I now encountered this error,
>>
>> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files not
>> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
>> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
>>
>> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did
>> not install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
>>
>> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be strictly
>> followed?
>>
>> A more general question is does everything in https://wiki.openoffice.org
>> /wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be strictly
>> followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5, MSVC
>> 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, will try to find it.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as
>>>> well.
>>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
>>>> > command/tool?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
>>>> > > configure.in".
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Damjan
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Hello all,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
>>>> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
>>>> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up
>>>> until
>>>> > > > this,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
>>>> > > > ./configure \
>>>> > > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>>> > > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>>> > > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>>>> > > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
>>>> > > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
>>>> > > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
>>>> > > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
>>>> > > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
>>>> > > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
>>>> > > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
>>>> > > > --disable-pch \
>>>> > > > --disable-atl \
>>>> > > > --disable-activex \
>>>> > > > --disable-nss-module \
>>>> > > > --without-junit
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
>>>> > > ./configure:
>>>> > > > No such file or directory"
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but
>>>> only
>>>> > > > configure.cmd and configure.in
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
>>>> > > > instruction?​
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

Hi all,

Now I am building AOO under Win7. Most of my settings are exactly the same
as the instruction.

I keep seeing this package missing error when I did "./configure". Can
someone please help? I already kept trying the entire afternoon.


​
As you can see I did a check, it was installed, but just "./configure"
complains it is missing.

Someone reported this issue before, but the status is fixed now

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-12629

Also the buildbot does not have this issue. What could be wrong with my
environment? https://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/602

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Hong  wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> I now encountered this error,
>
> checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files not
> found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
> are installed or use --with-psdk-home .
>
> I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did not
> install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?
>
> The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be strictly
> followed?
>
> A more general question is does everything in https://wiki.openoffice.
> org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be
> strictly followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET
> 3.5, MSVC 2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, will try to find it.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>>
>>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as
>>> well.
>>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
>>> > command/tool?
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi
>>> > >
>>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
>>> > > configure.in".
>>> > >
>>> > > Damjan
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hello all,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
>>> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
>>> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up
>>> until
>>> > > > this,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
>>> > > > ./configure \
>>> > > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>> > > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>> > > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>>> > > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
>>> > > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
>>> > > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
>>> > > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
>>> > > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
>>> > > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
>>> > > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
>>> > > > --disable-pch \
>>> > > > --disable-atl \
>>> > > > --disable-activex \
>>> > > > --disable-nss-module \
>>> > > > --without-junit
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
>>> > > ./configure:
>>> > > > No such file or directory"
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but
>>> only
>>> > > > configure.cmd and configure.in
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
>>> > > > instruction?​
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

Hi again,

I now encountered this error,

checking for PSDK files... configure: error: Some (all?) PSDK files not
found, please check if all needed Platform SDKs
are installed or use --with-psdk-home .

I suspect it was that I installed Windows SDK v10, or maybe that I did not
install under the default "Program Files (x86)" ?

The instruction said the Windows SDK is v7. Does it need to be strictly
followed?

A more general question is does everything in https://wiki.openoffice.org/
wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step needs to be strictly
followed? I am using a Windows 10 machine, but things like .NET 3.5, MSVC
2008 and GDI needs to come out of Win XP sound a bit outdated.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Hong  wrote:

> Thanks, will try to find it.
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> wrote:
>
>> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>>
>> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as
>> well.
>> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
>> > command/tool?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi
>> > >
>> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
>> > > configure.in".
>> > >
>> > > Damjan
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello all,
>> > > >
>> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>> > > >
>> > > > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
>> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
>> > > >
>> > > > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
>> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>> > > >
>> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up
>> until
>> > > > this,
>> > > >
>> > > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
>> > > > ./configure \
>> > > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>> > > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>> > > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>> > > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
>> > > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
>> > > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
>> > > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
>> > > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
>> > > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
>> > > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
>> > > > --disable-pch \
>> > > > --disable-atl \
>> > > > --disable-activex \
>> > > > --disable-nss-module \
>> > > > --without-junit
>> > > >
>> > > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
>> > > ./configure:
>> > > > No such file or directory"
>> > > >
>> > > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but
>> only
>> > > > configure.cmd and configure.in
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
>> > > > instruction?​
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

Thanks, will try to find it.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:
>
> > As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as
> well.
> > I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
> > command/tool?
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
> > > configure.in".
> > >
> > > Damjan
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
> > > >
> > > > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
> > > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
> > > >
> > > > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
> > > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> > > >
> > > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up
> until
> > > > this,
> > > >
> > > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> > > > ./configure \
> > > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> > > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
> > > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
> > > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
> > > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
> > > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
> > > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
> > > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
> > > > --disable-pch \
> > > > --disable-atl \
> > > > --disable-activex \
> > > > --disable-nss-module \
> > > > --without-junit
> > > >
> > > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
> > > ./configure:
> > > > No such file or directory"
> > > >
> > > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but only
> > > > configure.cmd and configure.in
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
> > > > instruction?​
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Damjan Jovanovic]

The "autoconf" tool is part of Cygwin.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Hong  wrote:

> As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as well.
> I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
> command/tool?
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
> > configure.in".
> >
> > Damjan
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
> > >
> > > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
> > > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
> > >
> > > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
> > > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> > >
> > > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up until
> > > this,
> > >
> > > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> > > ./configure \
> > > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> > > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
> > > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
> > > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
> > > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
> > > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
> > > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
> > > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
> > > --disable-pch \
> > > --disable-atl \
> > > --disable-activex \
> > > --disable-nss-module \
> > > --without-junit
> > >
> > > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
> > ./configure:
> > > No such file or directory"
> > >
> > > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but only
> > > configure.cmd and configure.in
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
> > > instruction?​
> > >
> >
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

As in my screenshot, I did not see an autoconf file in my download as well.
I was curious why was it too. Autoconf is a project file, not a Cygwin
command/tool?

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
> configure.in".
>
> Damjan
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
> >
> > My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
> > downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
> >
> > I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
> > wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
> >
> > I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up until
> > this,
> >
> > SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> > ./configure \
> > --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> > --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> > --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
> > --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
> > --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
> > --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
> > --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
> > --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
> > --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> > oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
> > --disable-pch \
> > --disable-atl \
> > --disable-activex \
> > --disable-nss-module \
> > --without-junit
> >
> > Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash:
> ./configure:
> > No such file or directory"
> >
> > Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but only
> > configure.cmd and configure.in
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
> > instruction?​
> >
>

Re: Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi

Please run "autoconf" first, which will generate "configure" from "
configure.in".

Damjan

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:58 AM, Hong  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.
>
> My source code was from this page, https://openoffice.apache.org/
> downloads.html (from the zip, not from the svn checkout)
>
> I was following through this guide, https://wiki.openoffice.org/
> wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>
> I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up until
> this,
>
> SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
> ./configure \
> --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
> --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
> --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
> --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
> --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
> --with-dmake-url="http://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" \
> --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz" \
> --disable-pch \
> --disable-atl \
> --disable-activex \
> --disable-nss-module \
> --without-junit
>
> Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash: ./configure:
> No such file or directory"
>
> Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but only
> configure.cmd and configure.in
>
>
>
> Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
> instruction?​
>

Question -- building AOO 4.1.3 on Windows

[Hong]

Hello all,

I am trying to build AOO 4.1.3 on a Windows machine.

My source code was from this page,
https://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html (from the zip, not from the
svn checkout)

I was following through this guide,
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step

I could follow the "Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 10" section up until this,

SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Microsoft_SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.8.4" \
--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7" \
--with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
--with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC" \
--with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MI1DCA~1.0/VC/bin" \
--with-dmake-url="
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"; \
--with-epm-url="
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz"; \
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--disable-nss-module \
--without-junit

Assuming this is Cygwin code, typing in Cygwin gave me "bash: ./configure:
No such file or directory"

Also the main directory does not seem to have a "configure", but only
configure.cmd and configure.in



Any thoughts what was the problem here? Am I following the right
instruction?​

Re: Question Regarding Limitations

[Andrew Pitonyak]

If you use the internal database, I believe that you are using HSQLDB. 
I expect that this stores the entire DB in memory (not sure about that), 
but if so, then you are memory limited.


If you use some other DB as the back-end and only use Base as the 
front-end, then your limitations will be related to the back-end system. 
I might recommend that you do this if you are worried about size 
limitations.


On 05.10.2016 13:40, Abebe,Fitsum wrote:

Hi,

We would like to leverage openoffice base but have a few questions:

-   Is there a limitation on how much data we can store in the
database(imposed by the database itself)? How many rows can we store
per table, etc...
-   Is there a built in API to import xml data to the database?

Thank you,

Fitsum Abebe
Sr. Software Engineer, PathNet
fitsum.ab...@cerner.com | 
816-888-2569


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Question Regarding Limitations

[Abebe,Fitsum]

Hi,

We would like to leverage openoffice base but have a few questions:

-   Is there a limitation on how much data we can store in the 
database(imposed by the database itself)? How many rows can we store per table, 
etc...
-   Is there a built in API to import xml data to the database?

Thank you,

Fitsum Abebe
Sr. Software Engineer, PathNet
fitsum.ab...@cerner.com | 816-888-2569
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Re: Question about spell check

[Marcus]

Am 10/04/2016 10:17 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:



On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).

I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.

It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.

What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?


it's the language from the underlying system.

The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".

However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.

*IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
discuss-worthy.


I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside
for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB
spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.


for me it's not that strange as I see the main purpose of the respective 
language in the install file for the UI (menus, help, etc.).


Just think of installing 2-3 langpacks. So, what should now be the 
default language? Hm ...


However, as written the setting the spell check language is 
discuss-worthy. I can think of this as a secondary purpose when choosing 
a specific language for OpenOffice.


Marcus

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Re: Question about spell check

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:17:49 -0700
Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
> > Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> >> I downloaded and installed
> >> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> >> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> >> "colour" (English spelling).
> >>
> >> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> >> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> >> has never run any OpenOffice before.
> >>
> >> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> >> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> >> language.
> >>
> >> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
> >
> > it's the language from the underlying system.
> >
> > The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
> > will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".
> >
> > However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.
> >
> > *IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
> > installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
> > discuss-worthy.
> 
> I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside 
> for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB 
> spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.
> 

On the occasion a User reports this happening we recommend deleting or renaming 
the OO user profile so it generates a fresh profile on next startup. 


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Re: Question about spell check

[Patricia Shanahan]

On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).

I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.

It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.

What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?


it's the language from the underlying system.

The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".

However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.

*IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
discuss-worthy.


I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside 
for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB 
spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.



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Re: Question about spell check

[Marcus]

Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).

I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.

It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.

What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?


it's the language from the underlying system.

The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you 
will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".


However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.

*IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the 
installation file. However, for the default spell check it's discuss-worthy.


Marcus


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Re: Question about spell check

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:56:14 -0700
Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> On 10/4/2016 12:49 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
> > Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded and installed
> >> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> >> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> >> "colour" (English spelling).
> >>
> >> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> >> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> >> has never run any OpenOffice before.
> >>
> >> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> >> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> >> language.
> >>
> >> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
> >>
> >
> > What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?
> >
> > You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text 
> > language to English (UK)
> >
> 
> I can indeed force correct spelling using Tools/Languages.
> 
> My question is what language should be the default. I expected the 
> installation language, but it seems to be doing something different.
> 

Normally installation of a language version (my experience is with en-GB) on a 
clean installation (i.e., no previous OO installation) should install the 
correct English dictionary.  

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Re: Question about spell check

[Patricia Shanahan]

On 10/4/2016 12:49 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
Patricia Shanahan  wrote:


I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).

I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.

It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.

What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?



What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?

You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text language 
to English (UK)



I can indeed force correct spelling using Tools/Languages.

My question is what language should be the default. I expected the 
installation language, but it seems to be doing something different.


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Re: Question about spell check

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> I downloaded and installed 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when 
> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected 
> "colour" (English spelling).
> 
> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile, 
> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that 
> has never run any OpenOffice before.
> 
> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but 
> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation 
> language.
> 
> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
> 

What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?

You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text language 
to English (UK)

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Question about spell check

[Patricia Shanahan]

I downloaded and installed 
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when 
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected 
"colour" (English spelling).


I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile, 
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that 
has never run any OpenOffice before.


It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but 
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation 
language.


What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?

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