Re: [OSM-dev] [osm3d] rendering area data
Hi Preet, at the 2nd 3D Workshop in Garching we agreed all to use the forum for 3D related discussions. So I guess this will be a better place with the right audience. Just login with your OSM credentials http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=42 bye Matthias (user:!i!) Am 01.04.2012 08:49, schrieb Preet: Hey all, There are quite a few devs working with OpenStreetMap data in 3d and judging from screenshots, they've been able to do some pretty awesome stuff so far. I'm trying to do something similar and wanted some feedback, specifically for rendering area data, that is, anything that falls under the 'area' primitive in terms of OpenStreetMap data -- buildings, borders, etc. I'm particularly interested in how to convert area/relation information from *.osm xml data into polygons that can be rendered (decomposed into triangles). Starting from the osm area primitive info [1], it's possible to get contours (ie node lists) for outer geometry and holes within the area. This data can then be fed into something like poly2tri [2], which is a lib that will triangulate simple polygons (holes can be specified too). The triangulated data is a mesh that can be fed into any renderer, like OpenGL. However, we can't assume all area data are simple polys; [4] shows some building geometry that's not strictly simple. So my main problem/question to devs that are rendering buildings/area geometry in 3d is: * How do you build the 3d geometry for areas that are potentially complex polygons? [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon#Usage [2] http://code.google.com/p/poly2tri/ [3] http://i.stack.imgur.com/W8Uym.png Regards, Preet ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Night of the living maps today! Statistics?
Hi, as you have noticed for sure, today evening starts www.nightofthelivingmaps.org , a LAN-party for Mappers ;) We will tag our contributions with #notlm, to trigger for statistics and renderings. Pascal Neis will do a portal for competitions, but maybe somebody of you can log statistics, please? This might be interesting, as a lot of people will contribute but not attend to the local parties. Will give us a good impression on how much people contributed in reality. Thanks Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Night of the living maps today! Statistics?
Am 07.02.2012 09:17, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, On 02/07/12 09:03, Matthias Meißer wrote: Hi, as you have noticed for sure, today evening starts www.nightofthelivingmaps.org , a LAN-party for Mappers ;) We will tag our contributions with #notlm, to trigger for statistics and renderings. Pascal Neis will do a portal for competitions, but maybe somebody of you can log statistics, please? This might be interesting, as a lot of people will contribute but not attend to the local parties. Will give us a good impression on how much people contributed in reality. Have groups declared special areas of interest that could me monitored graphically? I expect that we will work mostly near the citie of the parties or at least the states. A discussion started here http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=15409 But as people will join virtually by tracing from home, it's hard to limit it to certain areas :/ Be sure to remind pepole to save early, save often as this might make for nicer progress picture than one huge batch saved when people go to bed. Good point. bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT: T@H server will go away end of February
Bad to hear. But maybe this is the right moment, we should care about a real easy to use distributed rendering approach, again? A lot of project use BOINC for managing/promoting their jobs, so I started a page for a centralized discussion (no I'm not planning to port OSM to BOINC) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BOINC bye Matthias (user:!i!) Am 01.02.2012 12:15, schrieb Sebastian Spaeth: Hi all, I was just informed that the central ETH IT took an issue with the constant large bandwidth that the t@h server uses. In addition the server is four years old and getting old and senile... This means that end of February, the T@h server will be shut down and go away. Unless a replacement server (admin) is being found, that will also likely imply that the T@H service will go away (together with the tiles web server) at that point. I have previously argued, why I believe that a t@h service is not that crucial anymore, although I still believe it is good that it was there. I am not sure if and what should replace t@h, but generally speaking there are so many ways now to customize and get rendered tiles, that t@h is a bit of a dinosaur. A fun one though :-) I would like to thank the ETH Zurich, and specifically the Institute for Cartography of Prof. Lorenz Hurni (http://.karto.ethz.ch) that had been sponsoring the server and the bandwidth over the course of four years. They have been very generous, and never complained about the bandwidth/diskspace we were hogging all the time. Finally a special thanks to Claudia Matthys, their IT sysadmin who helped to purchase, setup and administer the thing. Also thanks to the legions of renderers, client developers, and style tweakers, such as Bob Kare, Petschge, Dirk Lüder-Kreie, the ROMA and TRAPI developers, and the people involved in running the read-only mirror architecture. That was and is amazing work that diverse people have been putting together there. I am not that much into mapping any more, but I will hang around and am open to other fun projects. Sebastian ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] helping #switch2osm
Am 18.01.2012 20:53, schrieb Roger Weeks: Michal Migurski has build this tool, which is pretty close to what I was tallking about: http://linode.teczno.com/~migurski/tiledrawer/ It builds a map server for you on an EC2 instance or other machine running Ubuntu 11.10. I'm trying it out now, will give more specifics once it's done and ready to use. The features sound nice. Would be cool to get some more details, I started a wiki page for that http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tiledrawer thanks Matthias (user:!i!) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in mailto:m...@parveenarora.in wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com mailto:kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: We should try and get more of the rendering tool stack into the standard repositories of Ubuntu and Feodora. That would probably make it easier to install a tile server. There are already a bunch of osm programs in the ubuntu repositories (e.g. josm and osm2pgsql, although the later is rather old), but programs like mod_tile, renderd and tirex are still missing. I wanted to see if I can do that, but then didn't get around to it. So if anyone else wants to try this it would be great. However, to get it into the next long term release 12.04, one would probably need to do this very soon. Hi Kai, I am interested to o this task to include it in the Ubuntu repositary, moreover we can also provide a add on feature of customised map tiles according to the choice of the users rather than the default tiles. Please let me know what should I need to do and what should I need to know? Thank You. -- Parveen Arora www.parveenarora.in http://www.parveenarora.in E-Mail: m...@parveenarora.in mailto:m...@parveenarora.in ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org mailto:dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] helping #switch2osm
Am 17.01.2012 12:53, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen: ... About 80% of people seem to use Windows and OSM does not offer much for them so I desided to make Super Easy WMS as a Windows installation package. Linux users do not need to get angry, it is possible to install Apache and Mapserver on Linux and take just the data and mapfiles from the package and after some mapfile editing for fixing the paths to the data the services will work similarly. I know that Mapnik has a steady position as the official OSM renderer but while waiting for an easy Switch2osm installer, read about Super Easy WMS server at http://latuviitta.org/documents/Super_easy_WMS_server.pdf The introduction package is downloadable at http://hip.latuviitta.org/tiedostot/Latuviitan_superhelppo_WMS_OSM_versio.zip (226 MB) The package is rather big because it includes the Geofabrik shapefiles from Finland. After installation there will be three WMS services available and WMS clients will find them from the following addresses http://localhost:8060/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=d:/ms4w/osm_maps/osm_wms.map http://localhost:8060/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=d:/ms4w/Geofabrik_shapes_maps/osm_wms.map http://localhost:8060/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=d:/ms4w/Suomi_shapes_maps/osm_wms.map Sounds great and remembers me to the OSGeo4W Installer http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo4W Can we provide a documentation, in the wiki please? As it's the most central place and allows everybody to fix/alter/translate/... the text? And it could be easily linked within the other wiki pages http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=OSM-Mapserveraction=edit As I read, easy to deploy packages (right versions and so on) are one of the most caveeats for a Rendering-stack. Do we have people with experience in linux package bundling or should we contact the different distros for help? bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] helping #switch2osm
Am 12.01.2012 23:37, schrieb Matthias Meißer: Am 12.01.2012 23:06, schrieb Mikel Maron: 4) Get easier in contact with local communities/multiplyer/evangelists? But promoting this contacts is quiet hard... Sometimes somebody asks on twitter, sometimes it's only a discussion within the company team :/ maybe what will help for commercial partners is something like that: https://partner.microsoft.com/UK/productssolutions/40174347 So a wikipage (sayhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/switch2osm) with short facts/links on the aspects that are covered by a change: -technical -legal/financial -communication/best practise This sounds to me good, as we have so much options (what webmap-framework, what tile provider, what styling, ...) this will give companies a helping hand for a quickstart, doesn't it? bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Friend's diaries Nearby users changesets and diaries
hi, I tried to follow your thread, hopefully I didn't miss anything. I would like to see the user page/dashboard page esp. for things that can only be done at osm.org so that is basicaly statistics and data analysis/presentation as you pointed out. I'm not sure if another communication channel (we have PMs, IRC, twitter, ) would be realy necessary but on the other hand, why not. Personally I miss a real broadcast message, so for mapping parties, I can notify all people within a certain area e.g. for mapping parties. The idea with different diameters is quit good, I like to extend it, with further options to choose the right audience: active contributors in a area, living in a area (by home location), by relation (direct friends), city/country/state levels, by activity (who is active at least once a week etc.). The spam aspect might be eliminated by the system by asking say 3 others (registered for more than a year, actively contributing the last 2 months, living not to far away). Or this privilege can be given by moderators/admins. Personally I track new users with ITO (checking for people I don't know their user pages), that can be done automatically.. Some were suprised, but the most enjoyed my offer for help and the recommendation of our local meetings. I like to suggest to working on features, that can be done/are currently done with third party services. The diary blog is nice, but lacks on easy to use formating abilities (bbcode, ...) but for that we got the bigger OSM blogs. We don't need a personal pinboard, as the most users use the wiki user page for that. But maybe it's useful for people to let them categorize themselves (would be great social data). For example categories/tags that describe (I'm a student that likes collecting housenumbers and adding highly detailed informations. As well I trace aerial imagery, but just in my state. I do communication within the project (multiplyer) and to the outside) If this informations would be machine readable, it would be very good for choosing communication groups (as what we currently maintain as local contacts http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Local_contacts So my point is, please don't try to create another social network, and keep the design simple and focused on stats and communication and provide just what is necessary. ;) I really enjoy that people working on the RoR port! bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info
Am 16.12.2011 14:17, schrieb Jaime Crespo: El 16/12/2011 11:15, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org mailto:frede...@remote.org escribió: Ander, On 12/16/11 10:09, Ander Pijoan wrote: Such information is almost certainly not suitable for OSM. Under no circumstances should you import data for all of Spain while sitting at your desk - if at all, then you can help local users to import cadastre data where there's interest and where there *are* local users to begin with. Even if I agree that I like user contributed content above cold imports, when I learnt about the availability of this dataset, I knew it could be very useful. We are talking here about official administrative staff (similar to boundaries) which cannot be surveyed: landuses and building shapes. Buildings could be traced from ortophotography, but with the relation stuf it is both boring and very imprecise (compared to 1-metre-acurate always-updatable import). Sincerely, I prefer people working in surveying amenities, mountain tracks, names, routing, etc. This import have nothing of this. I understand, that this import is a good chance for you, to get informations, that are hard to trace exactly. Here in Rostock (city in Germany), we got a similar import, maybe you can benefit on our experiences: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Houses_Rostock In short it was a great way to get a lot of details on the map (which makes working with data more difficult by the way ;)). The positions had to be altered for legal reasons, so the buildings weren't exatcly rectified. Later by adding housenumbers, it was a great help, that the import included all sperated parts of a house, so you could double check if your number records were exact. We did a manual import, so everybody picked up a piece of cake and imported the data to the DB, while he made sure, that there were no heavy overlappings. So basicaly we added the geometry, the hight and the building use, to get a good help for mappers. Now more than two years later (and with Bing available) I'm not that sure if it was wise: -no real exact positions (but good enough) -no good splitted parts/heigts for 3D rendering -some outdated informations, hard to find -some to generelized informationos/categories that can be modelled better with OSM -mostly to detailed buildings (balconies,...) -hard to motivate people to add further attributes to the buildings (roof, colours ...) +good for est. housenumbers +great help for remembering amenities and stuff by non mappers (osmbugs.org) +super detailed informations (power transformators,...) So my suggestion is, to do a import only together with a crew on the ground, to make sure, that they accept this 'mechanical' adding of informations and to make sure that they don't override the hard manual of all of you. And of course to work on this data if the import was done... I, as one of the local users, am the one that is fearing any problem and checking progresses. But I want also thank Ander for his work, because he is doing all the hard work that nobody had time to do for this import (and even answering all suggestions). Definitly! We all aren't talking to him, to stop any action, but to help you to make a wise decission so OSM comes better and better in your area :) bye Matthias (user:!i!) Anyway, I am the first person that could see problems for future contributors. But my beliefs are that they should be addressed within the editors' scope: things like better handling of layers and relations for buildings and landuses. 90% of the corrections I point to new users have to do with multipoligons. -- Jaime Crespo ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Merkaator port to Android
Am 04.12.2011 15:46, schrieb Cartinus: On Sunday 04 December 2011 12:02:58 Jaak Laineste wrote: So I would have two questions: a) Would there be enough users for full editor (Merkaator in particular, as it should be technically easier to port) on Android netbooks? This would be for office, not so much for field use. No interest in this. I prefer to do the real mapping on a 24 screen and with a real mouse. Sorry, but same for me. - Complex tasks are better at home b) Would there be enough interest for new Walking Papers for Android or iPad (and which of them) app? This would have following key capabilities: - preload offline background map. Simplified BW style like in Walking Papers, also WMS extracts. - drawing draft lines and notes on top of that, saves it as GPX which needs postprocessing on JOSM - easy graphical tag editing with presets, saves OSM changes, can be postprocessed with JSOM, but in simpler cases good enough for direct upload. - save GPS track - maybe take and save photos, with geotags - no graphical way editing, only point moving for standalone nodes (like in MapZen POI collector) - scalable also for phones, but best with tablets Very interested in this. After I got my tablet I looked for an electronic walking-papers, but I haven't found any (or combination of) app(s) that works for me. Well but this dosn't brings the pros, that you don't need to reedit this notes? But of course this is something that would be useful, too :) bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Merkaator port to Android
Well I've got Merkaator running on my OpenPandora handhelt (Angstrome Linux) and noticed that this kind of editors (let's call them GIS centred) isn't what will work on mobile devices in the field. I used osm2go as well and it's realy clother to my needs but is unfortunatly abandoned and currently not that good for tapping devices. On the other sides regular Smartphones are just to small (virtual keypad) so you might need a real hardware keyboard as the Pandora offers, to add streetnames etc. What in my opinion will work esp. on Tablets is: -easy to use download data (select area on map, not entering them numericaly) -ultimate reduced UI (focused on adding more attributes and just POIs, not for complex geometry, as this is best done with a mouse) -mission schemas that customize the layout/workflow: Let's say you want to add housenumbers, so you tap on the house. The editor suggests the next road and already predicts the housenumber by what you entered to house before). Another usecase might be to add 3D featuers, where a wizzard presents you different shapes of roofs, color table, ... -ability to take georeferenced audio-notes, photos and embedd them immediately Yes a HTML5 might do the job and as Josh noticed, this will simplify the deployment for mobile platforms. On the other hand I would really suggest offline editing. But this are just ideas...would be great if anybody would give it a try to see if this might work :) bye Matthias Am 02.12.2011 14:26, schrieb Josh Doe: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Jaak Lainestejaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as you may now, during GSoC QGIS was ported to Android tablets (http://hub.qgis.org/projects/quantum-gis/wiki/QGIS_Mobile_GSoC_2011). Merkaator has technically same base elements: Qt, GEOS, PROJ.4 etc, so based on this experience porting of Merkaator could be also possible with much smaller fuss. It should be even smaller work than getting JOSM working under Android. Question: do you know anyone who really would need and use it? Jaak, Porting JOSM to Android would be an interesting academic task, but several problems lead me to believe it would not be useful for general use: - java.awt is nowhere to be found on Android. JOSM's rendering engine would have to be completely re-written. - javax.swing is nowhere to be found on Android. JOSM's UI system would have to be completely re-written. - JOSM's UI is based on menus and keyboard shortcuts. These don't have good analogs in Android and would have to be re-thought. I'd much rather see the time spent solving these problems put towards a general purpose editor that is specifically designed for a tablet. Maybe something general enough that an iOS and Android developer could use the same design with platform-specific tweaks. All valid points, however it may be useful to reuse much of the non-GUI code for handling file loading, validation, search, etc. Or perhaps it may be more worthwhile to write a nice HTML5 app that can work on iOS, Android, and the web. I think the hardest thing is coming up with a design that works well on tablets. I think first and foremost it should offer a simple and robust way to edit POIs. A good preset system is a must (share with Potlatch2 or JOSM, don't create a new one!). Allow ways to be created both by tapping nodes and drawing (with simplification algorithm). And definitely have online and offline modes. I'd encourage you to create a wiki article to try and define what should go in to a tablet app. -Josh ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Merkaator port to Android
Yes it would be good to use existing source. But on the other hand Vespucci looks a bit overloaded to me. Another nice smal approach is: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KeypadMapper So keeping the user interaction to a minimal in the field :) bye Matthias Am 02.12.2011 20:26, schrieb Toby Murray: I would suggest looking at helping to improve Vesupcci. It already does several things mentioned here and I think a few other things are at least theoretically on the roadmap. It is certainly usable on my Samsung Galaxy S. Editing geometry is kind of tricky and I ususally end up going back in JOSM and fixing things after I upload from Vespucci. But I don't see many options to change that on a small touch screen. Tablets might work better. Having an orthogonalize button might be neat though. One outstanding feature request is to save to a file that you can open in JOSM and edit before uploading. It has tagging presets built in although they are not graphical... it just offers autocomplete suggestions for tag keys and values that it knows about. So you have to know which tag you want, it just helps you fill it in quicker. But it does have a button that will send you to the wiki for the selected key. It also guesses the road name when you add an addr:street tag. In my experience it does fairly well. It displays Bing imagery by default but has several other options. It even does some minimal validation - highlighting streets with no name. Toby 2011/12/2 Matthias Meißerdig...@arcor.de: Well I've got Merkaator running on my OpenPandora handhelt (Angstrome Linux) and noticed that this kind of editors (let's call them GIS centred) isn't what will work on mobile devices in the field. I used osm2go as well and it's realy clother to my needs but is unfortunatly abandoned and currently not that good for tapping devices. On the other sides regular Smartphones are just to small (virtual keypad) so you might need a real hardware keyboard as the Pandora offers, to add streetnames etc. What in my opinion will work esp. on Tablets is: -easy to use download data (select area on map, not entering them numericaly) -ultimate reduced UI (focused on adding more attributes and just POIs, not for complex geometry, as this is best done with a mouse) -mission schemas that customize the layout/workflow: Let's say you want to add housenumbers, so you tap on the house. The editor suggests the next road and already predicts the housenumber by what you entered to house before). Another usecase might be to add 3D featuers, where a wizzard presents you different shapes of roofs, color table, ... -ability to take georeferenced audio-notes, photos and embedd them immediately Yes a HTML5 might do the job and as Josh noticed, this will simplify the deployment for mobile platforms. On the other hand I would really suggest offline editing. But this are just ideas...would be great if anybody would give it a try to see if this might work :) bye Matthias Am 02.12.2011 14:26, schrieb Josh Doe: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Jaak Lainestejaak.laine...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, as you may now, during GSoC QGIS was ported to Android tablets (http://hub.qgis.org/projects/quantum-gis/wiki/QGIS_Mobile_GSoC_2011). Merkaator has technically same base elements: Qt, GEOS, PROJ.4 etc, so based on this experience porting of Merkaator could be also possible with much smaller fuss. It should be even smaller work than getting JOSM working under Android. Question: do you know anyone who really would need and use it? Jaak, Porting JOSM to Android would be an interesting academic task, but several problems lead me to believe it would not be useful for general use: - java.awt is nowhere to be found on Android. JOSM's rendering engine would have to be completely re-written. - javax.swing is nowhere to be found on Android. JOSM's UI system would have to be completely re-written. - JOSM's UI is based on menus and keyboard shortcuts. These don't have good analogs in Android and would have to be re-thought. I'd much rather see the time spent solving these problems put towards a general purpose editor that is specifically designed for a tablet. Maybe something general enough that an iOS and Android developer could use the same design with platform-specific tweaks. All valid points, however it may be useful to reuse much of the non-GUI code for handling file loading, validation, search, etc. Or perhaps it may be more worthwhile to write a nice HTML5 app that can work on iOS, Android, and the web. I think the hardest thing is coming up with a design that works well on tablets. I think first and foremost it should offer a simple and robust way to edit POIs. A good preset system is a must (share with Potlatch2 or JOSM, don't create a new one!). Allow ways to be created both by tapping nodes and drawing (with simplification algorithm). And definitely have online and offline
[OSM-dev] 3D OSM Dev weekend 03/2012
Hi friends, as to a lot of developments on 3D during the past months there were various requests on doing a meeting focused on 3D. So what tags are in the wild and how are they interpreted? What about shared services between all of the single 3d tools in the OSM ecosphere? http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=14540 Next year in March we will do a weekend on the 3D aspects of OSM in Germany and we would be happy about anybody that is interested in the modelling of 3D tagged OSM objects and who has applications to work on this data. Please join the discussion on the forums and review/add topics of your interests. Maybe we can add a video conference to link everybody who can't be present at the meeting. bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D discussions
Thanks for the invitation Andrzej :) Well I already tried to get the most 3D developpers together at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_Development and of course there is a forum dedicated to 3D where we can discuss http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=42 But thanks for the reminder, I didn't the discussions on that wiki pages! bye Matthias (user:!i!) Am 27.11.2011 15:34, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: Hi, A member of the OSM forums and of the German Polish communities, Marek Kleciak, asked me to invite interested developers to discuss the tagging and implementation of the schema used for 3rd dimension information (height/altitude) in OpenStreetMap, and also historical information. A couple of schemas have already become popular and Marek and others would like to find the best representation. They are getting down to details like building roof windows and tree species to make accurate 3d models directly from OSM data. Unfortunately there's no mailing list where this is discussed, that I know of, instead discussion happens on the forums and wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OSM-3D http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OSM-4D#Tagging_2 (the pages have English versions, but they are not fully translated yet, but apparently it's Ok to use English on these German pages) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Roof_table (again German/Polish versions may be more complete) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Viw/OSM3D http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Aschilli/ProposedRoofLines and others. Marek would particularly like interested developers to help in the implementation of different roof types display and other 3d features in the projects: * kendzi3d (JOSM plugin) * osm2world (osm2world.org) Finally I'm sure a number of OSMers oppose adding too much detail to the OSM database and especially some of the 3d modelling features don't seem to fit our data model (which is very 2d + tags). Personally I think it's unavoidable that all of these details are going to be added at some point, though. Cheers ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D discussions
Am 27.11.2011 17:25, schrieb Komяpa: maintain. There are existing tools that are the right tool for 3D modeling. Could you please name those tools? Easy to use, with rather simple format for simple objects, and letting you create a gapless worldwide model, and nice license. You might check this out: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_Development/Modelling#Modelling_tools I guess Toby points to the existing 3D tools for modeling (Blender, 3D Max, ...) and architecture. Personaly I agree with the opinion that the OSM tagging scheme is to restrictive to enter that complex informations (and side effects as annoied mappers by overloaded building objects). Thats my intention on starting Open3DMap as a 3D object repository, but on the other hand I'm absolutly impressed of what already can be done just with OSM tags and I think we should take the chance to give it a try and have a look how far we can get with this approach, what is accepted by the community and so on I already have some ideas and together with the 3D rendering guys I hope to get some experiments next year :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open3DMap bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D discussions
Am 27.11.2011 18:09, schrieb Toby Murray: ... very familiar with the tools to use them but it is impossible that they are harder to use than P2/JOSM with 50 ways, half of which are overlapping others, to describe a single building. Well yes, but the whole 3D GIS topic is pretty new even for professionals. So give us hobbiests the time to test things and checkout what technique will make the race :) Maybe it will become a mix of different approaches, maybee we will get layers, so tagging wouldn't become the problem for 'normal' mappers. I strongly believe that we will find a nice way that most people don't strugle with 3D and will see it as an option, not a constraint. bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] How to build and start a Plugin
Hi there Jörg, well yes the setup step is a bit tricky. What you need is the JOSM part (core) and all from the plugins SVN at the same folder (but not within each other). Then you might need to setup the eclipse preferences (compiling josm core and add it to library path) and then you can just invoke the build.xml ant script, that does the copy process etc. To start the plugin, you need to change the invoked main method by hand. Guess this wasn't possible within the Eclipse run config settings, but in the project files itself. Hope you get it working Matthias Am 27.10.2011 17:24, schrieb Joerg Moldenhauer: Hi, as explained in my post yesterday, i try to develop a plugin for JOSM. I created a little Test-Plugin that should do nothing more than enter the string Test in the main-menu of JOSM. Unfortunately the plugin isn't working. Here is, what i did: i build the jar-file (testplugin.jar) using the build.xml and copied it to the plugin-directory of my JOSM installation (C:\Users\Joerg\AppData\Roaming\JOSM\plugins). Then I tried to start JOSM, but this didn't work because of the testplugin.jar. Maybe I made some mistake in building the jar. In the section compile you have to enter the JOSM-Source, right? I entered the path of the josm-costum.jar which I have created with the checked out JOSM in Eclipse (classpath=C:\Users\Joerg\workspace\JOSM\dist\josm-custom.jar). Of course this is another JOSM, than my installed JOSM. Could this be the problem? Can somebody please tell me, how to build and start a JOSM-Plugin? ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] videomapping plugin - how to?
Am 02.10.2011 02:31, schrieb Iván Sánchez Ortega: Hi all, I'm trying to put my cheap-o (40€) windshield-mounted camera to good use, with JOSM and the videomapping plugin. However, whenever I launch JOSM with that plugin active, it crashes with a message like: Unable to load library 'Advapi32.so': libAdvapi32.so: cannot open shared object file As I understand, this plugin uses the VLCJ libraries for playing the video, and they seem to be missing. I visited the project page, and downloaded them, but all I get is a .jar file. The wiki page for the plugin seems to be too scarce on details on how to get this library up and running. Being a JOSM user, not a JOSM dev, I feel a bit lost. Any hints? Best, Hi there Ivan, I'm the author of the plugin (user:!i!) and have to say thats unfirtunatly not released in a stable way :( Other users have similar problems (that should not occure, of course because all is included in the .jar). Sadly I won't be able to restart dev on the plugin before end of Oct :( ATM I just can recommend to use the normal VideoLan Client on a seperated laptop and do just a visual link between the map and the recordings. But it's nice to read that more and more people seem to use a camcorder. BTW I bought a very similar cam for in-car mounting ;) cya Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Rhomobile and Openstreetmap
Hi there Gevork, well you can find a list of the most popular JS Webmap libs here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks I'm not sure if I understood what hits exactly your application. You can setup a local DB (PostGIS) and import an OSM data dump (planet.osm or it's local extracts) and then do a customized rendering via Mapnik to deploy your own Map, yes. There are also suites like MapsOnaStick or Tilemil, that deliver the map tiles with the packages itself. For all that please take a look at the OSM wiki :) P.S. if you want to use the offical map tile sources, make sure that you fullfil the Tiles Usage Policies http://wiki.opennet-initiative.de/wiki/Tiles_usage_policy bye Matthias Am 14.09.2011 07:43, schrieb Gevork Grigorian: Hi All, I am going to make a mobile application,where I need to put an offline map with some POI info. Actually I need it only for one city thus I have a question. Is it possible somehow to store layers or map parts locally, and then render it via javascript in browser, without a need to have internet connection? If yes which library support this feature? Thanks beforehand ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM wiki: screenshots in translated pages
Am 06.07.2011 14:33, schrieb colliar: Hi Screenshot are often added to the wiki. Should they be included in translated pages or is it nicer to upload a new one in the translated language ? I did upload translated screenshots for some German page but it will be quite a lot of extra data. What are your opinions ? yay, thats great :) The better (or more 'native') a user can read a documentation the faster he is able to solve it's problems. But on the other hand it takes a lot of time and so you have to keep a lot of more pictures up to date, right? So I guess personaly I would just take screenshots in english but as said, for the endusers a translated screenshot is even better. cya Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Some advice for a new OSM client
Hi Abhi, well some Tile server have a usage policy, so make sure you respect it. We already had apps that crashed our platform caused by a to high load. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMS http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tileserver http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_tiles A own server would be a very good idea, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik I don't remember a ready to use solution for vector rendering, but check this out http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Some advice for a new OSM client
Am 07.04.2011 12:28, schrieb Richard Fairhurst: !i! wrote: We already had apps that crashed our platform caused by a to high load. No we didn't. Delays to tile updates, yes. Crash, no. cheers Richard You are right Richard, crash was a to hard word. But nevertheless it's a quite bad first announcement of your app, when our portal is slowed down like a sludge ;) Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSM Server Developer's Platform An Idea for GSoC
Hi Parveen, I absolutly agree, that the process of setting up a OSM DB is somewhat crude. As far as I understand your pproposal 'OSM Server' means a DB, renderer and Tile server? I guess this is similar like one of this approaches: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap-in-a-Box http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps_on_a_Stick http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TileMill But AFAIK this aren't things that developers need, but some kind of service proverders. In my eyes, Devs would enjoy prepared packages that simplify the process of data processing http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2011#Prepared_global_Data_excepts But I heared that setting up a Rails port (completely OSM portal, DB,...) instance is quite difficult, so this would be another idea? bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] TEST
Your mail isnt filtered Martin :) cu Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[OSM-dev] [GSoC] Mentor for 3D model repository project
Hi there, I would like to participate at the Google Summer of Code this year, so I suggested to create some kind of 3D model library and service, that allows linking 3d shapes against OSM data. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GSoC_Project_Ideas_2011#3D_model_repository I would like to use the Python Django framework but I have no experiences with this technologie. Is there any Python expert, that would like to support me as a GSoC mentor? Tordanik would help me on 3D parts, so it's mostly the webservice part and managing a huge project where help would be necessary. Would be realy happy if we could boost the 3D topic http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_Development bye Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] [GSoC] Mentors requirements
Hi there, I added a few ideas and I'm intersted in working on a OSM4Games project. But I'm still not sure what kind of mentor would be ok. Does the one need to be member of OSM/OSMF or can it be a assistant on my local university, too? Need the person to be very skilled in OSM or would be general GIS context be ok? Does he need to cover all kind of knowledge to things involved (here: Games technologies)? thanks for the management! Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Mentors requirements
Thanks Yarik, but I was looking for some oppinion of users that were already involved in GSoC :) But I guess I will just give it a try ;) Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Video based speed limit detector
Hi, due to my experiences on VideoMapping I'm a bit critical if this would work on our amateur scenario. I have no clue about image processing but noticed that even for Humans it can be hard to find all signs along a street. But anyway, we will only know if it works, if somebody tries :D Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] GSoC what is needed
Hi, I (user:!i!) created the scientific corner at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research For that reason I'd like to ask if you need any help in promoting the Google Summer of Code OSM projects. Do we need students? Do we need mentors? Do we need further proposals? Sorry for the questions but I'm not that familar with the proceeding itself. Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC what is needed
Hi Ian, ok so if mentors want to join they just drop a line in the wiki? Might someone of the community is responsible that one can be promoted as a contact? Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Video based speed limit detector
Hi Keshan, I'm currently working on the videomapping plugin as my bachelor thesis. I guess this would be a good starting point. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/VideoMapping Personaly I'm not that sure, how a detection of signs can be added in the workflow but let's see ;) Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Video based speed limit detector
Yes I guess it would be great to have a tool that finds the signs. Of course interpretation would be great, but if it automates e.g. the review of a 4h highway trip, that would be brilliant! Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[josm-dev] Secrets of quadtiles
Hi, as I wrote a few weeks ago, I'm still looking for a mechanism to speed up drawing in my plugin. So I want to filter out waypoints that aren't in the current viewbox. I saw the org.openstreetmap.josm.data.coor QuadTilling class implementing somewhat quadtile like concept. Unfortuunatly even the tests give an idea of how to use it in a plugin. I didn't found any other plugin using this approach :/ Is there nobody that had to solve this problem before? Please give me just an hint :) Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[OSM-dev] TileUsagePolicy 'Heavy users' ?
Hi, somebody asked me what heavy user is about. I guess we all would agree that NY Times would be a heavy user, but is there some number say, ~100 concurrent endusers for a webpage that embedds OSM? regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] TileUsagePolicy 'Heavy users' ?
Hi Frederik, hehe this is what I expected :) Well my personal oppinion was always that a company offering a product using OSM should be able to setup/rent an own server. The hint to the munin statistics is quite good, I will add it to the page. Thanks! Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Publishing a plugin with external dependency
For my plugin (Videomapping) I decided to bundle all external jars. Even this isn't that nice from a package management view, it is the easiest way to deploy it with less troubles on versioning etc. I guess autoupdating isn't nescessary cause the release cycles of OSM are pretty short. But I'm not that experiencend in the deployment stuff. bye Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] mobile application development
Hi Mahsa, What application are we talking about? Do you just want to show up some tiles? Should it be a logger? Or a complete navigation system? Would be cool cause there is AFAIk no good open source logging tool for S60 out there. cheers Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis and full history planet
Hi Martjin, you might notice the refactoring of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm/full I guess this is a very specific topic. I know only a few users working on: -Frederik Ramm with the history generator -ITO with the history animations -Pitscheplatsch with the user contribution thing I'm also very interested in this topic but have currently a lack of time and resources. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Google Summer of Code
Hi, this might be a reposity for ideas even for OSM as a whole http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research/Ideas cya Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Some Questions about the Collaboration of OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia
Hi Zihje. the colloboration between OSM and WP is bidirectional OSM-WP Is as you guessed by wikipedia=my article (including namespace variants) and of course this can be extracted and visualised e.g. http://olm.openstreetmap.de http://openstreetmap.pl/wp/ WP-OSM On WP the most articles are geotagged so it's quite easy to present it on top of what ever GIS component like the service you mentioned. So this is completely independend from our tagging in OSM. hope this was helpful Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] DB scheme for rails port
Hi, I working on the DB related stuff in the wiki. Unfortunatly the DB schema sketch is completely out of date :( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Database#Data_model Might somebody of the senior devs update this graphic and may be add a simplified sketch with only tables? For years I used http://www.dbvis.com for this job, it's cross platform and had a free edition. Would be a great job to make the rails port more transparent :) regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Optimized data structures
Realy no one has an idea or is experienced in using this classes? Oh come on ;) cya Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [OSM-dev] imposm.parser - New Python library for OSM XML and PBF files
Sounds interesting, I added you at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks Would be nice if you provide some more informations about the internals at the dedicated wikipage cheers Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[josm-dev] Optimized data structures
Hi, for my pluin I'm looking for optimized structures for geodatas. I saw this quadbucket thing at some places but neighter a doc nor a plugin that takes use of this. Is there another way to optimize the search e.g. to pick the things that need to bee drawn within the clipping area? regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[OSM-dev] OSM XML fileformat flavours
Hi, I like to put some informations about our XML files at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/XML (removing the redirect) concerning ordering of data blocks etc. Currently there is this list of XML subtypes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_File_Formats Are there any further formats basing upon original OSM API XML? Can anybody please contribute informations about the history planet? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm/full cu Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is There Any Other Java Toolkit for OSM File Processing except Osmosis?
You might have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks What kind of data prrocessing are you looking for? For an opensource tool? cya Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is There Any Other Java Toolkit for OSM File Processing except Osmosis?
By the way, if your work is in context of science, please add it at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Any service for boundary relation - omsosis polygon
Hi there, I knew boundaries.pl already as desktop solution to convert a boundary relation to the osmosis polygon filter format? I guess I checked out all services I know but may be you have a last tip? cheers Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] OSMembrane - GUI front-end for Osmosis
Great, yesterday I thought about it while frustrated by my chaotic pipe setup. I will take a view, of course :) Would be great if you could add yours at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Research regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Thoughts on 3D models for OSM
Hi, I hopefuly can initiate a discussion with interested/involved people on the 3D topic at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_Development/Modelling (Please let's try to keep the dialogue at the wiki) Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Getting the 3D developers together
Hi there, cause I'm interested in the 3D usage of OSM (but not an active developer on this topic) I had contact with some of the related projects. Cause I see a good posibility to cooperate on central problems, I was asked to get all the projects together, to work on central problems. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D_Development This might become more important due to the massive grow of buildings caused by Bing aerial photography. regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [josm-dev] Fwd: Filter Google from Imagery?
I agree that this isn't a good way to deal with the problem. Now with Bing there is a good alternative, so only a few 'hardliners' would like to do so, to make the current ultimate map of their area, with fresh material. I guess this guys are able to setup a proxy to do so. It's IMHO not on us to make sure that they use the right aerial imageries. Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[OSM-dev] OSM XMl Code snippets...where?
Hi, I knew that I saw a bunch of ready to use code for parsing OSM XML somewhere in the wiki...does anybody knew where? I'd like to pin it at the Software page regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Collecting OSM related frameworks, components, libraries
Hi, I would like to collect as much ready to use frameworks for new devs at one single place: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks But I'm not that familiar with all ongoing OSM projects so I please you to help me :) Please add to this list components that are helpful when developing something with OSM. Please add just ones, that have not that much dependencies (or note them at least). You can just drop a line on the page or answer to that mail. I will update/beautify the wikipage soon. regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[josm-dev] Collecting OSM related frameworks, components, libraries
Hi, I would like to collect as much ready to use frameworks for new devs at one single place: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Develop/Frameworks But I'm not that familiar with all ongoing OSM projects so I please you to help me :) Please add to this list components that are helpful when developing something with OSM. Please add just ones, that have not that much dependencies (or note them at least). You can just drop a line on the page or answer to that mail. I will update/beautify the wikipage soon. regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Shortcut Manager - Reassigned Items get different order
Hi, for my plugin I use shortcuts. Within Settings-Shortcuts the user can reconfigure all shortcuts within JOSM. But if so the corresponding entry gets listed on the very top far away from the remaining entries e.g. for my plugin. So can we resort the list please to avoid confusing the users? Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Recentering without zooming out
Hi, well I try to implement a 'keep focused' option to my layer animations. I checked out remote-control plugin and it uses Main.map.mapView.recalculateCenterScale(bbox); to set the center. But I just want to focus a single point without resizing/zooming the area, so i have no clue how to calc the bounding box. Is there another more simple way that I just don't see? regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Register for keys/shortcuts
Hi Folks, I'm still working on the Videomapping Plugin and it seems to work.
But there is still a problem with the shortcuts:
I register them by passing it to my JosmAction for the menu entry:
VStart = new JosmAction(tr(play/pause), audio-playpause, tr(starts/pauses video
playback),
Shortcut.registerShortcut(videomapping:startstop,,KeyEvent.VK_SPACE,
Shortcut.GROUP_DIRECT), false) {
{
But it seems that I cant register for keys like spacebar or enter? That
would be very nice for a player :)
regards
Matthias
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Re: [josm-dev] Recentering without zooming out
Hi Maria, thank you but I'm actually talking about JOSM internals. There is no panning function :( Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Attaching to JOSM's log4j
Good mornig everybody, I already searched other plugins but didn't find an hint, how I can add my logger to JOSMs internal log4j Appender? greets Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Deploying third party libraries
Hi everybody, I'd like to know how the deployment system works for external libraries. I added them in Eclipse and build.xml as external .jar libs. So what can I do to make sure that they get installed to the users computer? Or does they already become part of my package? cu Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[OSM-dev] Support for Blender3D import script
Excause me I already asked in the Forums but didn't get any answer. I contacted Jerome, author of the 'blended city' script for Blender3D. Currently it generates cities using an procedural algorithm but he plays a little bit with OSM and would be glad to get some assistance by someone from the community. http://jerome.le.chat.free.fr/index.php/en/ Even if I have experiences with Blender3D(well once upon a time...;)) I lack of Python knowledge, is anybody else interested to buildup a possibility to animate OSM in 3D using this script? regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] project of the week: draw icons
Hi, Im not sure if everybody recognized this 'project of the week' we try to created missing icons for the renderers. Would be nice if the render dev crews pay attention on this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Project_of_the_week/2010/Jul_25 Would be cool if we could present the new icons in the coming weeks, to show the people, that their work is not nonsens :) regards Matthias ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[josm-dev] Where are the SVG base icons?
Hi everybody, I will get the next 'project of the week' and try to initiate a icon design competition for Mapnik symbols. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:!i!/potw Therefore Im looking for the basic .SVG for the feature icons used by JOSM. Where can I find them in the SVN? Or somewhere else? kind regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] detect focused layer
Hi devs,
I would like to know how I can get notified if the user has picked
another layer from the list to disable a menu.
The LayerChangeListener fires only, if you add a layer but not if the
focus changes :(
BTW does anybody know why my shortcuts doesn't appeare on hte right side
of a menuitem that I create this way?
VStart = new JosmAction(play/pause, audio-playpause,
starts/pauses video playback,
Shortcut.registerShortcut(videomapping:startstop,,KeyEvent.VK_SPACE,
Shortcut.GROUP_DIRECT), false) { }
VMenu.add(VStart);
nice weekend everybody :)
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Re: [josm-dev] [Fwd: Re: Register for keys/shortcuts]
Hi Sebastian, no sry missed your mail. Your code doesn't work cause in Main (and in every published method) is no possibility to .registerActionShortcut(a, KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_SPACE, 0)); Damn I didn't expected that such an easy thing would make so much trouble :( Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] [Fwd: Re: Register for keys/shortcuts]
Hi Sebastian, yes my SVN is up to date. Could you have a look in PositionLayer.java, please? My aim is to get the controls to control my video in main window. of course I will add menu entries but they can't register for keys like cursor keys, right? Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] [Fwd: Re: Register for keys/shortcuts]
Thx to Sebastian my problem is solved. My JOSM was out of date :( Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Set Date of a Waypoing
Hi, I try to create a Waypoint with a custom time, this seems to be impossible, right? No way to patch the date object If nobody has an idea, I recommed to add a second constructor, asking for the date, too. This would be usefull for the editgpx plugin and for my videomapping plugin (interpolation). regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Register for keys/shortcuts
Hi, sry it's me again with this annoying issue :( Can anybody help me with a good snippet to register Keys as JOSM plugin, please? I'm not sure if it is a problem cause I haven't got the focus as layer or if I use the wrong techniques. I tried: Main.panel.addKeyListener(this); Main.map.mapView.addKeyListener(this); Main.map.mapView.getRootPane().getGlassPane().addKeyListener(this); and of course the InputMap approach: Main.contentPane.getInputMap().put(KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(SPACE),pressed); Main.contentPane.getActionMap().put(pressed,a); Main.contentPane.getInputMap(JComponent.WHEN_IN_FOCUSED_WINDOW).put(KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_SPACE,0),a); Main.contentPane.getActionMap().put(doSomething,a); Sry but I'm realy annoyed cause I can't realise such a cheap feature :-( nice weekeend Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Register for keys/shortcuts
Hi, I try to register for keyevents for my plugin/layer but this doesn't seem to work :( Main.map.mapView.addKeyListener(this); Is there a good way to get notified for the cursor keys? Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] External libraries and ANT
Hi, I have a lot of problems getting my plugin (that refers external libs) compiled using ANT. I tried to put the lib .jar everywehere within my dirs but ANT doesn't recognize it and allways shows: Package does not exist. Then I tried to list this jar in the classpath entry of the build.xml but this doesn't worked, too :( Any ideas? Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Refactroring JOSM Dev help
Hi everybody, during the last weeks I recognize a massive lack in the wiki docs for JOSM developer. I would like to refactor and extend the docs, would anybody else interested ? Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Get GPS point below a mouseclick
Hi, I'm looking for a method that gives me the GPS informations to a specific point that somebody clicks on a GPS layer, especially the time. Sry but I don't if this functionality is allready implemented or if I had to scan the GPS list by hand :-( Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] few questions about plugin development
Hi, just a few questions concerning about JOSM plugin development: Why is my main menu entry 'video' translated to 'Videoverleih' even if I don't use tr() ? How can I debug my plugin? I tried to append to a JOSM process but this doesn't seem to work :( How can I upload my plugin to SVN without publish it immediately cause it is work in progress? kind regards Matthias ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
