Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi, I think we should list the companies with a short outline like, e.g. postgres does it here: https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/europe/ For codecentric one could write (I see no problem): PLC4X was initially started as an internal project at codecentric and open soure to

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Julian, I think having links to commercial support offerings is a pretty important thing for us to have. If we have to allow anyone be listed there (even if they don't contribute to the project) well that will be "the toad we have to swallow" (Don't know how to translate this German saying t

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Ah, yes then full ack. Thus, I suggested the PMC Vote approach, because also I dislike that (except for there are any other good reasons why the PMC could be fine like.. they donate us enough money to sell our asses... : ) ) Julian Am 27.01.20, 08:13 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Maybe I n

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Maybe I need to rephrase my last sentence ;-) "I am not happy to have just any company listed, even if they didn't even have any of their employees contribute anything to the project." Chris Am 27.01.20, 08:10 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hey, @Christofer Dutz you can also a ge

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hey, @Christofer Dutz you can also a general discuss about whether or not we should do that. I am mostly concerned with clear rules, if we do it. But, in the end, its not granted, lets discuss it and if we cant get an agreement decide it. Julian Am 27.01.20, 06:55 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" :

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Justin, So in general it would be OK to have a list of links to companies plc4x support pages? I don't care about seeing the ties between persons and companies. Just not happy to have any company listed. Chris Von: Justin Mclean Gesendet: Montag, 27. Januar

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, See [1] and in particular [2]. Note also how druid is not in line with [3] Thanks, Justin 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#projectthanks 2. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#productsupport 3. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking#whoweare

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > as Lukas just opened up a discussion about mentioning commercial support on > the (new) PLC4X Homepage. > One Example where this is done is Apache Druid > (https://druid.apache.org/community/ see Getting Help). I dislike the Druid example as it shows who the committers are working for, t

AW: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Nice thank you. Just also Wanted to start the discussing here that we have a resolution before starting something. Julian Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Christofer Dutz Datum: So., 26. Jan. 2020, 18:42 An: dev@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DIS

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Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, so I took the question to the trademarks list (Which I sort of think is the appropriate place to ask) Chris Am 26.01.20, 18:35 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : +1 From my side We however should double check that this is generally allowed. Just finding a precedence where i

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
+1 From my side We however should double check that this is generally allowed. Just finding a precedence where it is done, doesn't mean it's generally allowed. It might have just not been found. Chris Am 26.01.20, 15:42 schrieb "Lukas Ott" : Hi, +1 for PMC Vote - Only companies s

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[GitHub] [plc4x-build-tools] chrisdutz merged pull request #2: PLC4X landing page

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[GitHub] [plc4x-build-tools] dominikriemer opened a new pull request #2: PLC4X landing page

2020-01-26 Thread GitBox
dominikriemer opened a new pull request #2: PLC4X landing page URL: https://github.com/apache/plc4x-build-tools/pull/2 This PR adds some improvements to the PLC4X homepage: - teaser image + teaser text - improved layout of the feature sections - carousel to show integrations on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Lukas Ott
Hi, +1 for PMC Vote - Only companies should be listed that have Committers that can actually develop and run PLC4X development and/ or operation services without external (other companies of course collaboration is fine but the main work should be done by the developers of the company itself for p

[DISCUSS] Guideline for "professional support" Mentioning on Homepage

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi, as Lukas just opened up a discussion about mentioning commercial support on the (new) PLC4X Homepage. One Example where this is done is Apache Druid (https://druid.apache.org/community/ see Getting Help). One concern of myself is that we should be transparent but strict about what companie

Re: [WEBSITE] Highly valued possiblity for contributions without coding and hardware ...

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi, Picture of me? Of course, this should really help us with Click Rates... __ But, yes, I will provide something and also one or two images (and would be cool to get a link on our page for all the hard effort __ ). Julian Am 26.01.20, 15:13 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi Julian,

Re: [WEBSITE] Highly valued possiblity for contributions without coding and hardware ...

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Julian, for a carousel, probably a picture and one to two sentences. Perhaps adding dedicated success-story pages would also be good. Chris Am 26.01.20, 14:52 schrieb "Julian Feinauer" : Hi, we could provide a User Story! How much content would you need? Julian

Re: [WEBSITE] Highly valued possiblity for contributions without coding and hardware ...

2020-01-26 Thread Julian Feinauer
Hi, we could provide a User Story! How much content would you need? Julian Am 26.01.20, 13:23 schrieb "Dominik Riemer" : Hi Chris, I just pushed another update that includes the carousel and also changes (hopefully improves) the layout of the teaser a bit. Do you have any tex

Re: [WEBSITE] Highly valued possiblity for contributions without coding and hardware ...

2020-01-26 Thread Dominik Riemer
Hi Chris, I just pushed another update that includes the carousel and also changes (hopefully improves) the layout of the teaser a bit. Do you have any text on success stories that we could add? Dominik On 2020/01/26 09:57:58, Christofer Dutz wrote: > Hi Dominik, > > thanks for that it looks

Re: [WEBSITE] Highly valued possiblity for contributions without coding and hardware ...

2020-01-26 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Dominik, thanks for that it looks a LOT better than the boring skeleton I added. I would also enjoy a carousel with different things like you mentioned ... the bootstrap should have all the stuff needed already on-board, I think. However I am unsure if we should present the different protocol