Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

;>>>> >>>>> Why not geronimo subprojects since it is the official umbrella >> project >>>> now >>>>> - vs tomee is not until we rediscuss it transprojects. >>>>> >>>>> Really sounds weird to me to try to push it in tomee when we >> agreed to >>> do >>>>> i

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Le 13 août 2017 21:25, "John D. Ament" a écrit : In all honesty, while the ASF as a whole doesn't have a true strategy, or expect projects to work to benefit each other, I do think in this situation it makes a lot of sense to think about the various communities at the ASF

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

In all honesty, while the ASF as a whole doesn't have a true strategy, or expect projects to work to benefit each other, I do think in this situation it makes a lot of sense to think about the various communities at the ASF and do some thinking around what makes the most sense for a user of Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

We can keep any existing ssh code if we like. In terms of why TomEE, as mentioned here’s are some of the benefits: - show the TomEE ecosystem is a bit bigger than just the server - provide a clear pattern for “crazy new ideas” to start here that could potentially benefit TomEE or other EE

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

> On Aug 11, 2017, at 3:20 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: > > Reusable components make sense they are clearly distinctable. The part which > contains that reusable components imo must get a different brand name than > TomEE. Sheldon would stay named Sheldon. Chatterbox

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau > wrote: > > Interesting reasoning. What about tackling new specs - like mvc - which > dont have yet a home at asf and would more inline with tomee and require > more activity than "done" projects? I’d be open to that.

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

A few thoughts as mentioned over at the Geronimo list: Reusable components make sense they are clearly distinctable. The part which contains that reusable components imo must get a different brand name than TomEE. Otherwise you get the same problem as with Geronimo: people will think these

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Interesting reasoning. What about tackling new specs - like mvc - which dont have yet a home at asf and would more inline with tomee and require more activity than "done" projects? Le 10 août 2017 22:44, "David Blevins" a écrit : > On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:12 AM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

> On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:12 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro > wrote: > > Does it mean we'll rename TomEE as a TLP to something else so TomEE can be > a subproject and we will be creating more sub-projects for Sheldon or any > other project? I’d definitely want to keep TomEE

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

I think this is a wonderful idea. Those two projects show some of the possibilities of connectors, which is often a bit of an unknown. I think having those projects as TomEE sub-projects would be great. They are documented on tomitribe.io so we should think about how we'd want to bring those over

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Same thought, for asf it sounds like a G subproject and not sure tomee fits but not strongly against neither. Side note: we had a ssh module already which never got attraction - not a need i guess - so not sure it would get better welcoming this time. Romain Manni-Bucau @rmannibucau

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Does it mean we'll rename TomEE as a TLP to something else so TomEE can be a subproject and we will be creating more sub-projects for Sheldon or any other project? I have seen a lot of discussions in different Apache projects regarding a common place for Java EE components (spec jars and common

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:27 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > > > Don't forget to do IP clearance > Salute and Ack. Went through that process with a half-dozen code bases in the 2003-2009 range. I was a pro then, not sure if my knowledge is dated. > I personally think these

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

You guys really rock!! Elder Twitter: @elderjava Blog: http://eldermoraes.com 2017-08-09 23:42 GMT-03:00 David Blevins : > > On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Elder Moraes wrote: > > > > Don't know if I'm allowed to

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Elder Moraes wrote: > > Don't know if I'm allowed to answer... and my apologies if I wasn't... :-) For 17 years this project has maintained a "users first, committers second” spirit. Committers are one part of and servants to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Don't forget to do IP clearance I personally think these are awesome projects. David's been passionate about this stuff for a long time, and I was really hopefully to get these MDB enhancements working on the JMS spec, never happened :-( It would be great to see these at Apache, and hopefully

Re: [DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Don't know if I'm allowed to answer... and my apologies if I wasn't... :-) But from the point of view of the community, I think it would be awesome. TomEE has been my default EE server for a long time and it would be great to see it even more powerful. Didn't know these projects, but just had a

[DISCUSS] Code donations: Sheldon and Chatterbox

Hi All, I’d like to open the topic of potentially donating a couple components we’ve built over at tomitribe.io to our beloved TomEE project: - https://tomitribe.io/projects/sheldon - https://tomitribe.io/projects/chatterbox