Re: [jira] Commented: (VELOCITY-666) RFC: new directive: #call

2009-01-16 Thread Jonathan Revusky
* to parameters) to a macro is part of the core feature set of a modern template engine. There was the further implication that people who did not even understand what the feature was and what it is used for well, these people don't understand much :-) Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer

Re: Escaping HTML in Velocity 1.4

2008-08-04 Thread Jonathan Revusky
x as (x)?html /#escape Of course, you sometimes need to turn it off, so for those cases, you have: #unescape ... /#unescape within the escape block. For more complete information, see: http://freemarker.org/docs/ref_directive_escape.html Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker

Re: Escaping HTML in Velocity 1.4

2008-08-04 Thread Jonathan Revusky
very quickly shift to how to add some functionality to the tool that addresses the problem. It is very telling IMO that, here, even the supposed developers of the tool talk of its feature set as if it was something fixed that they can't really doing anything about (!) Regards, Jonathan Revusky

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-11 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Daniel Dekany wrote: Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 12:27:00 AM, Jonathan Revusky wrote: [snip] Now, I'm not saying that we've reached this point because I occasionally speak my mind on this forum. But OTOH, I don't think you have much evidence that it is ineffective. There is not much evidence

Re: Extending the foreach directive

2008-03-11 Thread Jonathan Revusky
answer in private or on the list, but really, it should be the latter, since other people might want to know, and after all, that's what these lists are for, right? Cheers, Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years

Re: Extending the foreach directive

2008-03-11 Thread Jonathan Revusky
in flux. Well, just as a final point, if you get me back to me on this, you should do so on a FreeMarker mailing list. :-) (The Velocity guys have enough of an inferiority complex as it is... ;-)) Cheers, Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
things were implemented You know, probably there is no way to make it significantly better without undertaking a complete rewrite. That's just the truth. The emperor is not wearing any clothes. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker

STOP LYING, ADRIAN.

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
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Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Konstantin Priblouda wrote: --- Adrian Tarau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, don't judge any online community based on guys like Jonathan. Just ignore them... funny thig is, it' s spillover from completely different community ;) What different community? What are you talking about? The

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
it, but any serious progress to make the tool competitive in its space would involve completely rewriting major parts of the thing. It's a pretty good bet that this will never happen. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
interacting with other human beings. They should have warned you about that. But, you know, everything has a catch... Anyway, nothing for you to get worked up about. Relax, go eat some vegemite. I hear that stuff does wonders for the brain. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Gonzalo Diethelm wrote: On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 18:21 +0100, Jonathan Revusky wrote: Adrian, you little dipshit, ... To the moderator of this forum: doesn't this language constitute grounds for banning this person from these lists? You seriously are proposing banning somebody (me

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Daniel Dekany wrote: Sunday, March 9, 2008, 6:21:20 PM, Jonathan Revusky wrote: [snip] 7 years ago (maybe closer to 8 years ago) Velocity was written by Jon Monkey see, Monkey do Stevens as a copycat clone of an existing open source project called WebMacro. [snip] But Jonathan... you Don't

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years of Practical Experience http://freemarker.blogspot.com/2007/12/velocity-of-freemarker-looking-at-5.html Jonathan Revusky wrote: Gonzalo Diethelm wrote: On Sun, 2008-03-09

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
a thought. Well, thank you for that. I have responded (okay, maybe at too much length, but it's more time-consuming to write a shorter note) to the ideas you've thrown out there. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-09 Thread Jonathan Revusky
don't think I can accept the apology. I don't think I can accept an apology that (a) contains an obvious lie and (b) is in a message that is such a self-righteous lecturing tone. Feel free to write a proper apology when you've cooled off. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project

Re: Call a velocity macro

2008-03-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
won't be just venting. It will have served some purpose. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project http://freemarker.org Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years of Practical Experience http://freemarker.blogspot.com/2007/12/velocity-of-freemarker-looking-at-5.html Jonathan

Re: A simple macro replacement with user directives

2008-03-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years of Practical Experience http://freemarker.blogspot.com/2007/12/velocity-of-freemarker-looking-at-5.html

Re: A simple macro replacement with user directives

2008-03-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
. Anyway, it is good to see someone who wants to give back and I hope my comments are useful to you. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Velocity or FreeMarker: Looking at 5 Years of Practical Experience http://freemarker.blogspot.com/2007/12/velocity

Re: [jira] Created: (VELOCITY-558) Allow macros that act as blockDirectives

2007-06-24 Thread Jonathan Revusky
basic capability without which it is near-impossible to organize one's templates according to the DRY (don't repeat yourself) principle. I think the above could be useful information for people. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org

Re: DVSL

2007-05-13 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Claude Brisson wrote: Hi. DVSL a small and simple project that slept for quite a long time but it can be quite handy for small XML transformation tasks. I think it deserves at least a 1.0 release. It's actually true that, if Anakia deserves a new release, then so does DVSL. It's true

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Microsystems. Similarly, all the source code to these ASF projects state clearly that the copyright holder is ASF. In these cases, the situation on authorship vs. ownership is completely clear. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Mvgr, Martin

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Martin van den Bemt wrote: Jonathan Revusky wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: In general, I wonder about the whole psychology behind the removal of @author tags. After all, the technical/pragmatic arguments in favor of removal strike me as extremely weak. So it has me wondering, what are the *real

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-10 Thread Jonathan Revusky
thing is a complete and utter ersatz problem. It does not constitute a credible motivation for removing the author tags. The real reasons for wanting to do this must be different than the ones stated. Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ HTH, Ted

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Konstantin Priblouda wrote: --- Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ For a lead developer of concurrent project you are spending a lot of time on wrong list. Are you trying to paralize any discussion here? LOL

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-08 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Jonathan Revusky wrote: Konstantin Priblouda wrote: --- Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ For a lead developer of concurrent project you are spending

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-07 Thread Jonathan Revusky
Christopher Schultz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan, Jonathan Revusky wrote: I simply pointed out that the reasoning offered for wanting to remove the @author tags was quite tenuous, to say the least. You did more than that... you went on to bash the project

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
expect a forthright honest response to this from any of those poeple... :-)) Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ As for removing my name... sure, whatever, i'll go with the flow either way on that. i see value both ways. since the ASF in general

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
be happy to consider that. Do you really think the users do care so much about cosmetics when the concurrent products/technologies get real improvements? did you notice that this was on the dev@ list? we're not talking about doing this for the users' sake. Oh, good grief... Jonathan Revusky

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
to me Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ WILL On 5/3/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/07, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the primary reason for the recommendation? Here's Greg Stein's reasoning: * http

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
, Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Best regards Henning WILL On 5/3/07, Henning P. Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just sitting in Aarons' incubating open source communities talk and a subject that came

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
is better fine, be my guest... Besides, it's not true that they don't have new releases. Look, just today they just had a new release of Anakia!!! ;-) Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Jonathan Revusky wrote: Jason Pettiss wrote: Wow

Re: Remove Author tags?

2007-05-06 Thread Jonathan Revusky
it to be expected that people are, at some point, going to make certain pointed comments about the lack of forward progress, say? So maybe the person missing the point is actually you... maybe... just a thought... Jonathan Revusky -- lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ Jonathan

Re: [VOTE] release Anakia 1.0 and Texen 1.0

2007-04-23 Thread Jonathan Revusky
is a question I would like an answer to for the record: Are you really truly encouraging people to use these things? Jonathan Revusky -- The problem with wikipedia is that it only works in practice. In theory, it could never work. I'd like to be more specific on criteria: Please only vote +1